Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 That is why I had suggested long ago to the wise, august body of readers here that we should use <topical keywords> like <info> <religion> <personal reading>. Sadly, only very few individuals use that system and then the irritated ones get even more irritated and frustrated as tension builds up inside :-) RR , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > RAJAN AND rrJI, > PL DO CHANGE A TOPIC ONCE IT IS not in the same subject thread is misleading here is better served as TIME ZONE will help members to dig in archives this way in future. > > > prakriti_the_nature <rajan wrote: Dear Rohiniranjan ji, > Perhaps you are right. I checked on some websites and found that > Nepal started using NST only from 1986. So this means, the time > recorded on my birth certificate (11:05 AM) may be actually IST. > Since my father has died, I checked with my mother and she says she > know it was 11:05 AM but no idea whether it is NST or IST. So I > think it may be that the recorded time of 11:05 AM might be actually > IST. Does 10:50 or 11:05 gives different result for me? Or one other > way to verify is that you can verify with some past events in my > life. If you need to know anything from my past to verify your data, > I can furnish that.For your reference, my father died on 28th > October, 2001 and my younger sister died on 23rd November, 2005. I > got employed on my current job on 26th May, 2003. And my only > foreign trip was to India on 3rd September, 2001. I hope these > events may help you in calculating exact details on me. > Regards, > Rajan > > , "Rohiniranjan" > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > Nepal started using NST in 1988 (clocks set 15 minutes ahead of > > India) according to Time changes in the World by Doris Chase > Doane. > > Perhaps you can confirm from local officials or local official > > publications and report back. > > > > RR > > > > , "prakriti_the_nature" > > <rajan@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rohiniranjan ji, > > > But I think Nepal was using NST, not IST during 1976. So it > should > > > be 11:05 AM NST. And even my janampatrika bears the same chart > > based > > > on 11:05 AM NST. I have always used 11:05 AM NST as my birth > time. > > > Regards, > > > Rajan > > > , "Rohiniranjan" > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > So that would make it 11:05 IST because IST was what was in > use > > in > > > > your birth year. Do you agree? > > > > > > > > 11:05 IST and not 11:05 NST as indicated by you below but > rather > > > > 10:50 NST. > > > > > > > > The astrologers you were criticising at one point -- did they > use > > > > 11:05 NST because that is what you told them perhaps, in the > past? > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , "prakriti_the_nature" > > > > <rajan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohiniranjan ji, > > > > > > > > > > Sorry for late reply. Was engaged in Dipawali celebration. > The > > > > > source of birth data is from my mother as well as I checked > the > > > > > hospital record given to us. The birth time is 11:05 AM. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Rajan > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohiniranjan" > > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > But Nepal Standard Time was not even in effect in 1976! > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me repeat! If you are serious, you must tell me the > > source > > > of > > > > > > birthdata. Is it from a verbal account (parent's > > recollection) > > > or > > > > > a > > > > > > family diary or record? What were the numbers representing > > the > > > > > time > > > > > > recorded there? 11:05 or 10:50? > > > > > > > > > > > > Please respond seriously and give full information. > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "prakriti_the_nature" > > > > > > <rajan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohiniranjan ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time of Birth: 11:05 AM Nepal Standard Time > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Rajan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohiniranjan" > > > > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For starters and I am posting this publicly in case > > others > > > > > also > > > > > > > work > > > > > > > > on your chart! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In 1976 Nepal was using IST. > > > > > > > > Is your recorded time 10:50 or 11:05 AM (recorded > time!) > > > > > > > > Always when the ducks are moving as in the case of > your > > > > > birthdata > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > is wise to also include details about the source of > > > > > information. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is best to give the actual recorded time always > > > > > particularly > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > the locality is in an area/country with time changes > > > etc. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 15 minutes is a lot to throw calculations off. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Rajan S. > Malla" > > > > > > <rajan@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think clients jump ship when it comes to readings > is > > > > > because > > > > > > > it's > > > > > > > > human > > > > > > > > > nature first which is never satisfied and secondly > the > > > > > answer > > > > > > > given > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > confusing. Say as for me, I am from Nepal, and I > have > > > > > consulted > > > > > > > few > > > > > > > > > astrologers here on paid basis. But all of them had > > > > > different > > > > > > > > versions and > > > > > > > > > no one was specific. So I have tried to get answers > > from > > > > > > learned > > > > > > > > astrologers > > > > > > > > > from India by posting in some of the . > And 2- > > > 3 > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > who have > > > > > > > > > replied me also had different versions. My query was > as > > > > > follows: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Currently, I am working in a private insurance > company > > > in > > > > > Nepal > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > I would > > > > > > > > > like to change my job or start a new business > because > > > the > > > > > > > current > > > > > > > > job is > > > > > > > > > mentally and physically not satisfying to me. I have > > > been > > > > > > > looking > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > another job for a long time and hasn't been > successful > > > yet. > > > > > I > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > to look > > > > > > > > > after my mom and younger sister so I can't go to > > foreign > > > > > > country > > > > > > > > also. I > > > > > > > > > want to be established in my home country. If change > is > > > > > there > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > me, when > > > > > > > > > will it be and which career path shall I follow? > Will > > it > > > be > > > > > > > another > > > > > > > > job or > > > > > > > > > start a new business? Which field is best for me and > if > > > I > > > > > start > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > business, > > > > > > > > > is partnership OK for me or not? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My mom wants me to get married but I am not > interested > > > > right > > > > > > now > > > > > > > > coz I > > > > > > > > > haven't been established successfully in my career > path > > > and > > > > > > also > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > don't > > > > > > > > > know what kind of girl she will be. About my > marriage, > > > when > > > > > > will > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > take > > > > > > > > > place? Will it be arranged or love marriage? And > what > > > kind > > > > > of > > > > > > > girl > > > > > > > > will she > > > > > > > > > be? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And like to know about my health also? How will it > be > > in > > > my > > > > > > > future? > > > > > > > > (My > > > > > > > > > father died of bone cancer in 2001 and younger > sister > > > died > > > > > of > > > > > > > > Encephalitis > > > > > > > > > in 2005). I am going through lot of mental and > physical > > > ups > > > > > and > > > > > > > > downs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there foreign travel or foreign settlement for > me? I > > > > have > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > travelled > > > > > > > > > once to India in 2001 only. If so, when and where? > > > > (However, > > > > > I > > > > > > > > prefer > > > > > > > > > settling in my own country but love to travel for > > > pleasure > > > > > and > > > > > > > > work.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date of Birth: 12 January, 1976 > > > > > > > > > Time of Birth: 11:05 AM NST (10:50 AM IST) > > > > > > > > > Place of Birth: Kathmandu, Nepal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The answers I got was like for my career, some say I > > > will > > > > > > change > > > > > > > > career > > > > > > > > > right after my birthday, some said after few years, > and > > > > some > > > > > > say > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > will not. > > > > > > > > > What I wanted to know was whether I will change my > > > career > > > > > and > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > so, which > > > > > > > > > time (month or year) and which field will I choose. > > > > > Similarly > > > > > > > for my > > > > > > > > > marriage, one said I will marry in Feb./Mar. of > 2007, > > > one > > > > > said > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > 2009, > > > > > > > > > other said 2010. For health, some suggested me to > wear > > > > > > > Tourmaline, > > > > > > > > some to > > > > > > > > > enhance Mars, some to wear Garnet, some cat's eye, > etc. > > > For > > > > > > > foreign > > > > > > > > travel, > > > > > > > > > one said that I will settle in foreign country after > > > 2007, > > > > > one > > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > I will > > > > > > > > > not settle but chance of visting foreign countries > for > > > > > > pleasure, > > > > > > > > one said I > > > > > > > > > will not travel to foreign country and one said > there > > > may > > > > be > > > > > > > chance > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > future. But nobody was specific and all conflicting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So when people get different answers without any > > > specific > > > > > > > answers, > > > > > > > > then it > > > > > > > > > urges people to seek help from others expecting the > > next > > > > one > > > > > > may > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > specific > > > > > > > > > and solve the problems. Maybe, my urge to seek > answers > > > > > > > specifically > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > chosen you for the answers to my questions, if you > > could > > > > > guide > > > > > > > me > > > > > > > > properly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Rajan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > </message/36390;_ylc=X3 > > > > > > > o > > > > > > > > DMTJyY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3EycGhlBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzk2OTk4NjIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDgyNjkwBG > > > > > > > 1 > > > > > > > > zZ0lkA > > > > > > > > > > zM2MzkwBHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2bXNnBHN0aW1lAzExNjA3MjEwNzQ- > > > > > > > > What > > > > > > > makes > > > > > > > > > nativities/clients jump ship when it comes to > readings! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Posted by: "Rohiniranjan" <jyotish_vani@? > > > Subject=Re: > > > > > > > > > What%20makes%20nativities%2Fclients%20jump%20ship% > > 20when% > > > > > 20it% > > > > > > > > 20comes%20to%2 > > > > > > > > > 0readings%21> jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > > <http://profiles./rohinicrystal> > rohinicrystal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:51 pm (PST) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Banshiji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After reading Kumar ji's posting, I am beginning to > > > wonder > > > > > if > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > might have possibly thought that I was criticizing > > those > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > astrologers that may have read for you in the past. > I > > > must > > > > > > > clarify > > > > > > > > > that no that was not (never has been -- no matter > what > > > they > > > > > > tell > > > > > > > > > you!) my intent ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was and am sincerely trying to fathom the > following > > > > things: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is it that makes a client (paying or otherwise) > go > > > for > > > > > a > > > > > > > > second > > > > > > > > > opinion after receiving their first astrological > > reading? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If failure of the first reading, after waiting out > the > > > > > period > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > prediction, generally months to years (!) then that > is > > > > > > > absolutely > > > > > > > > > legitimate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But if it happens before the reading/prediction > period > > > has > > > > > run > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > > then, is it because: > > > > > > > > > = The astrologer was unimpressive and unconvincing? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > = The reading experience was not what the client > > > fantasized > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > expected? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > = Was the reading fine but the astrologer not? As in > > too > > > > > > > > > uncommunicative, difficult to understand, other > reasons? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hopefully you will share your experiences without > > naming > > > > > names! > > > > > > > And > > > > > > > > > others too who have suffered similar situations! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > > > > > > , "Rohiniranjan" > > > > > > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Banshiji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry to hear that different astrologers gave > > you > > > > > > > different > > > > > > > > > > interpretation, but I am curious about one thing. > > > After > > > > > > > receiving > > > > > > > > > > your reading from the first astrologer, why did > you > > go > > > to > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > second > > > > > > > > > > one? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share if you do not mind. I am always > curious > > > > about > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > mental > > > > > > > > > > process that makes us go seek a reading. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40> > > > > > > > > > , "BANSHI AGARWAL" > > > > > > > > > > <banshi1206@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Swamiji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been confused by the astrologers about > the > > > > > outcome > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > > > > > maha dasa..My dBirthday details are as follows: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DOB:12TH JUNE 1971 > > > > > > > > > > > TIME:13:45 HRS > > > > > > > > > > > PLACE: KOLKATA,INDIA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Currently i m running Rahu-Mars period & on 5- 12- > > > 2006 > > > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > > > maha > > > > > > > > > > > dasa will start.Some astrologers are saying that > it > > > > will > > > > > be > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > worst period of my life because jupiter has > > > > > kendraadhipati > > > > > > > > > > > dosa,maraka & its placement in 3rd house very > > bad.So > > > i > > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > lot of remedies in this dasa. > > > > > > > > > > > Some astrolgers are saying that it will be the > best > > > > > period > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > life because jupiter is most beneficial planet > as > > > well > > > > > as > > > > > > > > karaka > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > wealth.It doesnt have kendraadhipati dosa > because > > it > > > is > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > situated > > > > > > > > > > > in kendra,again it has great power due to his > > > placement > > > > > in > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > > > friendly & exalted planet mars house.Again it > > > aspects > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > 7th,9th,11th so it will be the best time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I m very confused Swamiji,will you please help > me > > to > > > > > solve > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > puzzle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Banshidhar Agarwal > > > > > > > > > > > 98300 72369 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <outbind://166- > > > > > > > > 000000007E4B1FB8B63A3140815AA0E6EC00C19A04012E00/#toc> > > Back > > > > > > > > > to top > > > > > > > > > <jyotish_vani@?Subject=Re: > > > > > > > > > What%20makes%20nativities%2Fclients%20jump%20ship% > > 20when% > > > > > 20it% > > > > > > > > 20comes%20to%2 > > > > > > > > > 0readings%21> Reply to sender | > > > > > > > > > <? 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