vistiji and all learned members--pls help!

[Guest guest]

Om gurave namah

Dear vistiji and all learned members,

In one of your lectures U said that for KSY/KAY one shud

offer a baby snake 2 a shivaling in a shiva temple and not the big

snake that is coiled around lord shiva .Now my questions r as follows:-

1)Can a palm sized snake b offered 2 a shivaling after rudrabhishek and

removed from there thereafter by the priest himself?can U pls post the

correct/elaborative method of doing so?

2)Can one do milk abhishek as well as offer milk as prasad to the sarpa

(snake) that is encircled on shivaling on every panchami tithi?If

yes ,then Shud this b specifically done on the sarpa that is

enclircled shivalinga in a temple?BUT, by doing so the milk that is

offered 2 the snake will directly fall on shivaling. Is it safe 2 do

so? or shud the snake b momentarily removed from the shivaling just

for the abhishek and then again place it on the shivaling?Pls

clarify.Thanks a lot.Regards,M.

[Guest guest]

|| Hare Raama Krsna ||

 

|| Durgaa Saranam ||

 

Dear Mahek-ji,

 

namaskar. We are not talking about live

snakes here but snakes made of gold or copper. I didn't understand why

you asked if it is safe or not ? The size of this snake idol should

depend on proportions and what you can afford. Here worship is to

Mahadeva himself, hence offerings are to HIM.

 

Sarvam Durgaarpanamastu.

 

Best wishes,

 

Sourav

 

=================================================================

 

 

, "mahek76" <mahek76 wrote:

>

> Om gurave namah

> Dear vistiji and all learned members,

> In one of your lectures U said that for KSY/KAY one shud

> offer a baby snake 2 a shivaling in a shiva temple and not the big

> snake that is coiled around lord shiva .Now my questions r as

follows:-

> 1)Can a palm sized snake b offered 2 a shivaling after rudrabhishek

and

> removed from there thereafter by the priest himself?can U pls post the

> correct/elaborative method of doing so?

> 2)Can one do milk abhishek as well as offer milk as prasad to the

sarpa

> (snake) that is encircled on shivaling on every panchami tithi?If

> yes ,then Shud this b specifically done on the sarpa that is

> enclircled shivalinga in a temple?BUT, by doing so the milk that is

> offered 2 the snake will directly fall on shivaling. Is it safe 2 do

> so? or shud the snake b momentarily removed from the shivaling just

> for the abhishek and then again place it on the shivaling?Pls

> clarify.Thanks a lot.Regards,M.

>

[Guest guest]

Om gurave namah

Dear Sourav ji,

Thanks 4 responding!I know that a metal

snake has 2 b offered as per sanjay ji's VRA (chapter on badhak) but

still some doubts r left in my mind. As visti ji told in his

lecture "U hv 2 b careful regarding remedial measures".So I just

wanted vistiji and all learned members 2 post a elaborative method

regarding the do's and don't's of this procedure.Sourav ji,I'll

explain my query in a very simple language.With my limited knowledge,

prasad/naivedya once being offered 2 one deity… (exactly the same

prasad/offering ) shud not b offered 2 another deity .For eg if U go

to a temple where U hv vishnu and shiva.After offering some sweets 2

Shiva will u take those same sweets from Lord shiva and offer 2

vishnu?No!Similarly ,I feel the same rule applies 2 milk abhishek. I

wanted 2 know whether milk abhishek that is exclusively meant 4 a

snake (that is shiva sarpa) shud b done on it alone after temporarily

removing it from the shivaling or can milk abhishek b done with it

being on top of shivaling?My fear is that milk used 2 bathe the snake

will fall on shivaling….won't this cause disgrace/disrespect of lord

shiva as milk is being first offered 2 the snake and is thereafter

falling on him.Won't Lord shiva get angry?That's why I asked visti

ji "is it safe"?My queries may seem irrelevant and childish to many

ppl but I don't know much rules and regulations regarding shiva

worship.souravji visti ji and Any member pls throw light on

this.Thanks & regards,M.

, "Sourav" <souravc108 wrote:

>

>

> || Hare Raama Krsna ||

>

> || Durgaa Saranam ||

>

> Dear Mahek-ji,

>

> namaskar. We are not talking about

live

> snakes here but snakes made of gold or copper. I didn't understand

why

> you asked if it is safe or not ? The size of this snake idol should

> depend on proportions and what you can afford. Here worship is to

> Mahadeva himself, hence offerings are to HIM.

>

> Sarvam Durgaarpanamastu.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Sourav

>

> =================================================================

>

>

> , "mahek76" <mahek76@> wrote:

> >

> > Om gurave namah

> > Dear vistiji and all learned members,

> > In one of your lectures U said that for KSY/KAY one shud

> > offer a baby snake 2 a shivaling in a shiva temple and not the big

> > snake that is coiled around lord shiva .Now my questions r as

> follows:-

> > 1)Can a palm sized snake b offered 2 a shivaling after

rudrabhishek

> and

> > removed from there thereafter by the priest himself?can U pls

post the

> > correct/elaborative method of doing so?

> > 2)Can one do milk abhishek as well as offer milk as prasad to the

> sarpa

> > (snake) that is encircled on shivaling on every panchami tithi?If

> > yes ,then Shud this b specifically done on the sarpa that is

> > enclircled shivalinga in a temple?BUT, by doing so the milk that

is

> > offered 2 the snake will directly fall on shivaling. Is it safe 2

do

> > so? or shud the snake b momentarily removed from the shivaling

just

> > for the abhishek and then again place it on the shivaling?Pls

> > clarify.Thanks a lot.Regards,M.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

|Hare Rama Krsna|

Dear Mahek, Namaskar.

I don't remember saying that one can offer idols of baby snakes for the

KSY/KAY yoga's, infact i would not recommend doing so. This remedy is

used when the person has Sarpabadhaka in dual signs in the chart,

otherwise i've never heard of it.

Better to give us the chart in question so that we can advise a proper

remedy.

Yours sincerely,

 

Visti Larsen

Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

 

 

 

mahek76 wrote:

>

> Om gurave namah

> Dear vistiji and all learned members,

> In one of your lectures U said that for KSY/KAY one shud

> offer a baby snake 2 a shivaling in a shiva temple and not the big

> snake that is coiled around lord shiva .Now my questions r as follows:-

> 1)Can a palm sized snake b offered 2 a shivaling after rudrabhishek and

> removed from there thereafter by the priest himself?can U pls post the

> correct/elaborative method of doing so?

> 2)Can one do milk abhishek as well as offer milk as prasad to the sarpa

> (snake) that is encircled on shivaling on every panchami tithi?If

> yes ,then Shud this b specifically done on the sarpa that is

> enclircled shivalinga in a temple?BUT, by doing so the milk that is

> offered 2 the snake will directly fall on shivaling. Is it safe 2 do

> so? or shud the snake b momentarily removed from the shivaling just

> for the abhishek and then again place it on the shivaling?Pls

> clarify.Thanks a lot.Regards, M.

>

>

[Guest guest]

|| Hare Raama Krsna ||

 

|| Durgaa Saranam ||

 

Dear Mahek,

 

namaskar. Now I understand your question

properly. Yes, naivedya to a God once given cannot be taken back and

given to other idol. 'Naivedya' comes from 'nivedana' or offering. And

'prasaada' means that which is given back to you by Lord out of His

pleasure (prasannata).

 

Now, in my understanding and I may be corrected here, the snake on an

idol of Lord Siva/Lingam is an aabhusana and not a stand-alone idol. So

when you approach Siva, naivedya should be given unto HIM. If you are

worshipping a Snake Idol or Naagaraja separately, Naivedya is to be

given to this idol.

 

Sarvam Durgaarpanamastu.

 

Best wishes,

 

Sourav

 

=================================================================

 

 

, "mahek76" <mahek76 wrote:

>

> Om gurave namah

> Dear Sourav ji,

> Thanks 4 responding!I know that a metal

> snake has 2 b offered as per sanjay ji's VRA (chapter on badhak) but

> still some doubts r left in my mind. As visti ji told in his

> lecture "U hv 2 b careful regarding remedial measures".So I just

> wanted vistiji and all learned members 2 post a elaborative method

> regarding the do's and don't's of this procedure.Sourav ji,I'll

> explain my query in a very simple language.With my limited knowledge,

> prasad/naivedya once being offered 2 one deity… (exactly the same

> prasad/offering ) shud not b offered 2 another deity .For eg if U go

> to a temple where U hv vishnu and shiva.After offering some sweets 2

> Shiva will u take those same sweets from Lord shiva and offer 2

> vishnu?No!Similarly ,I feel the same rule applies 2 milk abhishek. I

> wanted 2 know whether milk abhishek that is exclusively meant 4 a

> snake (that is shiva sarpa) shud b done on it alone after temporarily

> removing it from the shivaling or can milk abhishek b done with it

> being on top of shivaling?My fear is that milk used 2 bathe the snake

> will fall on shivaling….won't this cause disgrace/disrespect of

lord

> shiva as milk is being first offered 2 the snake and is thereafter

> falling on him.Won't Lord shiva get angry?That's why I asked visti

> ji "is it safe"?My queries may seem irrelevant and childish to many

> ppl but I don't know much rules and regulations regarding shiva

> worship.souravji visti ji and Any member pls throw light on

> this.Thanks & regards,M.

> , "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > || Hare Raama Krsna ||

> >

> > || Durgaa Saranam ||

> >

> > Dear Mahek-ji,

> >

> > namaskar. We are not talking about

> live

> > snakes here but snakes made of gold or copper. I didn't understand

> why

> > you asked if it is safe or not ? The size of this snake idol should

> > depend on proportions and what you can afford. Here worship is to

> > Mahadeva himself, hence offerings are to HIM.

> >

> > Sarvam Durgaarpanamastu.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Sourav

> >

> > =================================================================

> >

> >

> > , "mahek76" <mahek76@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Om gurave namah

> > > Dear vistiji and all learned members,

> > > In one of your lectures U said that for KSY/KAY one shud

> > > offer a baby snake 2 a shivaling in a shiva temple and not the big

> > > snake that is coiled around lord shiva .Now my questions r as

> > follows:-

> > > 1)Can a palm sized snake b offered 2 a shivaling after

> rudrabhishek

> > and

> > > removed from there thereafter by the priest himself?can U pls

> post the

> > > correct/elaborative method of doing so?

> > > 2)Can one do milk abhishek as well as offer milk as prasad to the

> > sarpa

> > > (snake) that is encircled on shivaling on every panchami tithi?If

> > > yes ,then Shud this b specifically done on the sarpa that is

> > > enclircled shivalinga in a temple?BUT, by doing so the milk that

> is

> > > offered 2 the snake will directly fall on shivaling. Is it safe 2

> do

> > > so? or shud the snake b momentarily removed from the shivaling

> just

> > > for the abhishek and then again place it on the shivaling?Pls

> > > clarify.Thanks a lot.Regards,M.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Om gurave namah

Dear Sourav ji,

Yes U R correct that snake is a

ornament/shringar of Lord shiva.

What I understand from your mail is that while worshipping a shiva

sarpa (that is a part of shivalinga) we need not temporarily remove

it for abhishek/bathing or naivedya purpose rather we can offer those

with it being on top of the linga!Another thing that I wanted 2 know

is regarding the Trayodasakshari Dattatreya mantra "Om klim Aastikam

munirajam namo namah"(page 132 VRA)…in the bottom sanjay ji mentions

that this is guru mantra and shud b used by the initiated.I haven't

been initiated into any mantras by any guru …can I still use it for

my daily recital?I guess it has 2 b started on a Thursday morning. If

time permits pls do respond on this query of mine.Thanks a

lot.Regards,M.

, "Sourav" <souravc108 wrote:

>

>

> || Hare Raama Krsna ||

>

> || Durgaa Saranam ||

>

> Dear Mahek,

>

> namaskar. Now I understand your

question

> properly. Yes, naivedya to a God once given cannot be taken back

and

> given to other idol. 'Naivedya' comes from 'nivedana' or offering.

And

> 'prasaada' means that which is given back to you by Lord out of His

> pleasure (prasannata).

>

> Now, in my understanding and I may be corrected here, the snake on

an

> idol of Lord Siva/Lingam is an aabhusana and not a stand-alone

idol. So

> when you approach Siva, naivedya should be given unto HIM. If you

are

> worshipping a Snake Idol or Naagaraja separately, Naivedya is to be

> given to this idol.

>

> Sarvam Durgaarpanamastu.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Sourav

>

> =================================================================

>

>

> , "mahek76" <mahek76@> wrote:

> >

> > Om gurave namah

> > Dear Sourav ji,

> > Thanks 4 responding!I know that a metal

> > snake has 2 b offered as per sanjay ji's VRA (chapter on badhak)

but

> > still some doubts r left in my mind. As visti ji told in his

> > lecture "U hv 2 b careful regarding remedial measures".So I just

> > wanted vistiji and all learned members 2 post a elaborative method

> > regarding the do's and don't's of this procedure.Sourav ji,I'll

> > explain my query in a very simple language.With my limited

knowledge,

> > prasad/naivedya once being offered 2 one deity… (exactly the same

> > prasad/offering ) shud not b offered 2 another deity .For eg if U

go

> > to a temple where U hv vishnu and shiva.After offering some

sweets 2

> > Shiva will u take those same sweets from Lord shiva and offer 2

> > vishnu?No!Similarly ,I feel the same rule applies 2 milk

abhishek. I

> > wanted 2 know whether milk abhishek that is exclusively meant 4 a

> > snake (that is shiva sarpa) shud b done on it alone after

temporarily

> > removing it from the shivaling or can milk abhishek b done with it

> > being on top of shivaling?My fear is that milk used 2 bathe the

snake

> > will fall on shivaling….won't this cause disgrace/disrespect of

> lord

> > shiva as milk is being first offered 2 the snake and is thereafter

> > falling on him.Won't Lord shiva get angry?That's why I asked visti

> > ji "is it safe"?My queries may seem irrelevant and childish to

many

> > ppl but I don't know much rules and regulations regarding shiva

> > worship.souravji visti ji and Any member pls throw light on

> > this.Thanks & regards,M.

> > , "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||

> > >

> > > || Durgaa Saranam ||

> > >

> > > Dear Mahek-ji,

> > >

> > > namaskar. We are not talking about

> > live

> > > snakes here but snakes made of gold or copper. I didn't

understand

> > why

> > > you asked if it is safe or not ? The size of this snake idol

should

> > > depend on proportions and what you can afford. Here worship is

to

> > > Mahadeva himself, hence offerings are to HIM.

> > >

> > > Sarvam Durgaarpanamastu.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > > Sourav

> > >

> > >

=================================================================

> > >

> > >

> > > , "mahek76" <mahek76@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Om gurave namah

> > > > Dear vistiji and all learned members,

> > > > In one of your lectures U said that for KSY/KAY one shud

> > > > offer a baby snake 2 a shivaling in a shiva temple and not

the big

> > > > snake that is coiled around lord shiva .Now my questions r as

> > > follows:-

> > > > 1)Can a palm sized snake b offered 2 a shivaling after

> > rudrabhishek

> > > and

> > > > removed from there thereafter by the priest himself?can U pls

> > post the

> > > > correct/elaborative method of doing so?

> > > > 2)Can one do milk abhishek as well as offer milk as prasad to

the

> > > sarpa

> > > > (snake) that is encircled on shivaling on every panchami

tithi?If

> > > > yes ,then Shud this b specifically done on the sarpa that is

> > > > enclircled shivalinga in a temple?BUT, by doing so the milk

that

> > is

> > > > offered 2 the snake will directly fall on shivaling. Is it

safe 2

> > do

> > > > so? or shud the snake b momentarily removed from the shivaling

> > just

> > > > for the abhishek and then again place it on the shivaling?Pls

> > > > clarify.Thanks a lot.Regards,M.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

|| Hare Raama Krsna ||

 

|| Durgaa Saranam ||

 

Dear Mahek-ji,

 

namaskar. Once again, pleas do not do

things like removing Lord's aabhusana etc. When you approach a Siva

lingam please be aware that you are worshipping the highest level of

Deva. So forget about worshipping snakes or offering naivedya/milk to

snakes separately. Everything should be offered to HIM (Siva). If you

want to worship Nagaraja or other Snake idols, please go to a separate

temple dedicated to such worship. Remember that only Siva will take the

halaahala (poison) in His throat when the time comes.

 

I do not have understanding of the trayodasaakshari mantra given by you

hence, if I were you, I would either verify it from Sanjay-ji himself or

wait to be initiated by a Guru. Please do not forget to worship your

Ishta-Devata daily.

 

Please pass your data to Visti-ji, as he has asked in a previous

message.

 

Best wishes,

 

Sourav

 

================================================================

 

 

, "mahek76" <mahek76 wrote:

>

> Om gurave namah

> Dear Sourav ji,

> Yes U R correct that snake is a

> ornament/shringar of Lord shiva.

> What I understand from your mail is that while worshipping a shiva

> sarpa (that is a part of shivalinga) we need not temporarily remove

> it for abhishek/bathing or naivedya purpose rather we can offer those

> with it being on top of the linga!Another thing that I wanted 2 know

> is regarding the Trayodasakshari Dattatreya mantra "Om klim Aastikam

> munirajam namo namah"(page 132 VRA)…in the bottom sanjay ji

mentions

> that this is guru mantra and shud b used by the initiated.I haven't

> been initiated into any mantras by any guru …can I still use it

for

> my daily recital?I guess it has 2 b started on a Thursday morning. If

> time permits pls do respond on this query of mine.Thanks a

> lot.Regards,M.

> , "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > || Hare Raama Krsna ||

> >

> > || Durgaa Saranam ||

> >

> > Dear Mahek,

> >

> > namaskar. Now I understand your

> question

> > properly. Yes, naivedya to a God once given cannot be taken back

> and

> > given to other idol. 'Naivedya' comes from 'nivedana' or offering.

> And

> > 'prasaada' means that which is given back to you by Lord out of His

> > pleasure (prasannata).

> >

> > Now, in my understanding and I may be corrected here, the snake on

> an

> > idol of Lord Siva/Lingam is an aabhusana and not a stand-alone

> idol. So

> > when you approach Siva, naivedya should be given unto HIM. If you

> are

> > worshipping a Snake Idol or Naagaraja separately, Naivedya is to be

> > given to this idol.

> >

> > Sarvam Durgaarpanamastu.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Sourav

> >

> > =================================================================

> >

> >

> > , "mahek76" <mahek76@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Om gurave namah

> > > Dear Sourav ji,

> > > Thanks 4 responding!I know that a metal

> > > snake has 2 b offered as per sanjay ji's VRA (chapter on badhak)

> but

> > > still some doubts r left in my mind. As visti ji told in his

> > > lecture "U hv 2 b careful regarding remedial measures".So I just

> > > wanted vistiji and all learned members 2 post a elaborative method

> > > regarding the do's and don't's of this procedure.Sourav ji,I'll

> > > explain my query in a very simple language.With my limited

> knowledge,

> > > prasad/naivedya once being offered 2 one deity… (exactly the

same

> > > prasad/offering ) shud not b offered 2 another deity .For eg if U

> go

> > > to a temple where U hv vishnu and shiva.After offering some

> sweets 2

> > > Shiva will u take those same sweets from Lord shiva and offer 2

> > > vishnu?No!Similarly ,I feel the same rule applies 2 milk

> abhishek. I

> > > wanted 2 know whether milk abhishek that is exclusively meant 4 a

> > > snake (that is shiva sarpa) shud b done on it alone after

> temporarily

> > > removing it from the shivaling or can milk abhishek b done with it

> > > being on top of shivaling?My fear is that milk used 2 bathe the

> snake

> > > will fall on shivaling….won't this cause disgrace/disrespect

of

> > lord

> > > shiva as milk is being first offered 2 the snake and is thereafter

> > > falling on him.Won't Lord shiva get angry?That's why I asked visti

> > > ji "is it safe"?My queries may seem irrelevant and childish to

> many

> > > ppl but I don't know much rules and regulations regarding shiva

> > > worship.souravji visti ji and Any member pls throw light on

> > > this.Thanks & regards,M.

> > > , "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||

> > > >

> > > > || Durgaa Saranam ||

> > > >

> > > > Dear Mahek-ji,

> > > >

> > > > namaskar. We are not talking about

> > > live

> > > > snakes here but snakes made of gold or copper. I didn't

> understand

> > > why

> > > > you asked if it is safe or not ? The size of this snake idol

> should

> > > > depend on proportions and what you can afford. Here worship is

> to

> > > > Mahadeva himself, hence offerings are to HIM.

> > > >

> > > > Sarvam Durgaarpanamastu.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > >

> > > > Sourav

> > > >

> > > >

> =================================================================

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , "mahek76" <mahek76@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Om gurave namah

> > > > > Dear vistiji and all learned members,

> > > > > In one of your lectures U said that for KSY/KAY one shud

> > > > > offer a baby snake 2 a shivaling in a shiva temple and not

> the big

> > > > > snake that is coiled around lord shiva .Now my questions r as

> > > > follows:-

> > > > > 1)Can a palm sized snake b offered 2 a shivaling after

> > > rudrabhishek

> > > > and

> > > > > removed from there thereafter by the priest himself?can U pls

> > > post the

> > > > > correct/elaborative method of doing so?

> > > > > 2)Can one do milk abhishek as well as offer milk as prasad to

> the

> > > > sarpa

> > > > > (snake) that is encircled on shivaling on every panchami

> tithi?If

> > > > > yes ,then Shud this b specifically done on the sarpa that is

> > > > > enclircled shivalinga in a temple?BUT, by doing so the milk

> that

> > > is

> > > > > offered 2 the snake will directly fall on shivaling. Is it

> safe 2

> > > do

> > > > > so? or shud the snake b momentarily removed from the shivaling

> > > just

> > > > > for the abhishek and then again place it on the shivaling?Pls

> > > > > clarify.Thanks a lot.Regards,M.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>