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  "Shaasa A. Ruzicka" <amritasyaputra (AT) excite (DOT) com>

  amritasyaputra (AT) excite (DOT) com

To:  vaidika1008 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com

CC:  deenbc (AT) hotmail (DOT) com

Subject:  RE: Re: Upanayana for Girls

Date:  Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:43:05 -0400 (EDT)

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Vrin,

 

Thank you for the publishing of the comments of Kamakoti Shankaracharya re. upanayana. A call of sanity and Vedic Sanatan Dharm.

 

It is since long a great worry of mine to see how innocent and well-meaning Hindus under the pressure of western and christian cultural propaganda start to manipulate (in best intentions) and misinterpret its Holy Vedic scriptures. Repeating the hollow phrases that are followed in words but not deeds: tolerance, peacefulness, equality of man and woman etc. No one understands what they really mean - only Veda offers their practical and spiritual explanation. May we never give in to the barbaric (un)culture of the West.

 

With best wishes,

 

Shaas

 

 

--- On Tue 10/17, < vediculture > wrote:

 

1. Re: Upanayana for Girls

Posted by: "deen chandora" deenbc (AT) hotmail (DOT) com

Mon Oct 16, 2006 4:22 am (PDT)

 

 

Namaste,

 

Maharishi Dayanaand Sarswati founder of Moderday Hindu

Renassance movment in 1860 Started Yajopavit Sanskars for all

humans including Girls , womenetc. Shahid Bhagat Singh also had

Yajnopavit . At Vedic temple we have conducted this ceremony many

a times. Thanks

 

Deen BChandora

 

 

"Vrndavan Parker"

vediculture

vediculture

[world-vedic] Upanayana for Girls

Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:40:04 -0000

>Upanayana for Girls

>(HinduDharma: Marriage)

>

>Important Announcement: Hindus Under Siege - The Way Out Book

>Released

>

>

>If brahmacarya prepares boys [or young men] to live according to

>dharma, what about girls? A girl has neither

 

 

 

Upanayana nor

>Brahmacaryasrama. Should not a woman's mind also be disciplined

like

>a man's. If you echo the criticism of reformers and say that

>injustice has been done to woman by denying them the

>Brahmacaryasrama and Upanayana, my answer is "No".

>

>Men marry after their Upanayana and student-bachelorhood. Now

for

>women marriage itself is Upanayana. Just as a boy dedicates

himself

>to his guru, a girl must dedicate herself to her husband from

her

>childhood until the start of their conjugal life and beyond. The

>Manusmriti says: "Strinam upanayanam-sthane vivaham

Manurabravit"

>(Manu says that for women marriage is in place of upanayana). If

you

>ask for an external sign of this like sacred thread worn by the

men,

>we may at once point to the married woman's mangalasutra.

>

>I said that "Upanayana" means "taking near", taking a boy near

his

>guru for

 

 

 

his brahmacaryasrama. A woman's guru is her husband.

Being

>joined to him in wedlock is her upanayana.

>

>According to the sastras, a boy's upanayana must be performed

when

>he is seven years old. A girl must be married at the same age.

If a

>boy is to be initiated into brahmacarya before his mind is

disturbed

>by kama, a girl is to be married before she feels the carnal

urge.

>She must also accept her husband as her guru. According to

sastras,

>the guru must be looked upon as Isvara. In the same way a child

>bride must think of her husband as both guru and Isvara and

dedicate

>herself whole-heartedly to him. She will be able adopt such an

>attitude only when she is married very young. Later she might

start

>to reason about things, ask questions and develop egoistic

feelings.

>

>Laying oneself at the feet of the guru or Isvara -- in short

>surrender --- is the

 

 

 

best means of liberating oneself. This

concept

>of surrender is proclaimed in the carma sloka of the gita,

surrender

>to Isvara, guru or husband: once you surrender to an individual

or

>deity you no longer own any thing. Isvara will give you his

grace

>through the one to whom you surrender.

>

>According to the system devised by sages, a boy is made to

surrender

>to his guru at the time of his upanayana ceremony, while a girl

does

>the same to her husband at the time of her marriage.

>

>It is not that the girl is considered inferior and asked to

>surrender to a man, that is her husband. The boy too is asked to

>surrender as a child to the guru. It is the view of the sastras

that

>the age at which the girl is married and surrenders to her

husband

>must be the same as that at which the boy surrenders to the

guru.

>

>Talking of the husband and the wife, the

 

 

 

question whether the

one is

>superior to the other or inferior is of no consequence. Equally

>unimportant is the question of rights and status. If this is

>realised surrender will be seen to be of the utmost importance.

We

>must appreciate the fact that it is in keeping with this view

that

>the concept of upanayana has taken shape in the case of boy's

and

>marriage in the case of girls.

>http://www.kamakoti.org/hindudharma/part18/chap2.htm

 

 

 

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