Guest guest Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 Dear Haridasa-vesyadasa Prabhu, Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada. Thank you for your letter. >>>... unless an authoritative recipe states otherwise. > >1. I would be interested to know about that "authoritative recipe" that >madan Mohan prabhu talks about. ""authoritative" according to whom? As far >as I know Srila Prabhupada has never advocated the use of soybean oil for >any recipe. check the Vedabase and ask Srila Prabhupada direct disciples. I >think you may find that that is the case. I do not intend to spark and perpetuate a discussion on whether soybean oil is bonafide or not. But if you re-read my last posting, I referred to "vegetable oils" -- and not just to soybean oil -- that can sometimes be used in authoritative recipes suitable for offering to Krsna: "In answer to Krishna Devi's questions: I have not received your cook book as of yet; mustard seed, etc.—these are exciting spices and should be avoided; Vegetable ghee is all right if real ghee is not available or easily acquired". -- SP letter to Dines Candra, 13 July 1971 Besides, some Indian traditional cuisines use vegetable oils even when ghee is available --sesame and coconut oils (South Indian cuisine) and mustard oil (Bengali cuisine) and there are plenty of traditional Indian recipes using these oils that can be offered to Krsna: "While staying at the Calcutta Temple in 1973, I became aware of Srila Prabhupada's fondness for Bengali cooking. Amazingly, during my tenure of personal service to my beloved Srila Prabhupada, His Divine Grace didn't eat Bengali-style prasadam very often. Even when he stayed at the Calcutta and Mayapur temples, he regularly honored prasadam prepared by his western disciples. The difficulty with the wonderful Bengali preparations, although quite tasty, was that they often contained mustard oil. "It is difficult for me to digest," Srila Prabhupada would comment. One day at the Calcutta temple, Tamala Krsna Maharaja entered Srila Prabhupada's room and offered his obeisances. Sitting comfortably behind his desk, Srila Prabhupada looked as effulgent as ever. "Haven't you said that mustard oil is for the outside of the body and ghee is for the inside?" Tamala Krsna inquired. "Yes," Srila Prabhupada said, smiling. "Then doesn't that mean that we shouldn't use mustard oil in our cooking?" Tamala Krsna Maharaja continued. "Sometimes, some of the devotees are using mustard oil in their cooking. I don't think it is a good idea." "Well, it is true," Srila Prabhupada said. "But, mustard oil is very tasty. It makes the vegetables taste first-class. Therefore, in Bengal, everyone uses mustard oil in their cooking. It is very palatable." -- from Srutakirti Prabhu's "Prabhupada Uvaca" "Reliable stories abound from Srila Prabhupada's servants and cooks about his love for chidwa. In Calcutta in his childhood his mother had made chidwa in mustard oil for his celebrations of the Jagannatha Rathayatra." -- from BTG 1997-01 >2. If the Moscow temple has financial difficulties, perhaps one of the >reasons may be because they use soybean oil INSTEAD of ghee and that >therefore Krsna is not pleased that He is having to consume such an >unofferable (to the deity) product. This type of argument is irrefutable because everything happening after something can be explained away as happening because of this. However, suffice it to say that Moscow temple standards for Deity cooking have been amongst the highest in ISKCON for many years. You are welcome to come and sample it yourself. As for vegetable oils, first of all, they are bonafide according to the above statement by Srila Prabhupada, and secondly they are used only for cooking in bulk when ghee is not affordable. Therefore blaming this fact on devotees as the reason for their financial constrains I find hardly justifiable. I hope you will exonerate me from discussing health benefits of different oils vs. ghee. Let everybody see this for oneself over the years. Begging to remain your servant, Madana-mohana das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 >which country do yoy >think produces the MOST soy beans in the world? an Asian country we know >of??? NO! it's the USA... run by demonic leaders. Prabhu, I am afraid you will be dismayed to know where the bulk of the world's commercial cow butter and ghee comes from, which leaders run those contries and keep those cows and how. However, is it a good reason to oust butter and ghee from our cooking unless it comes from Vrndavan goshala? Your servant, Madana-mohana das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 > >which country do yoy > >think produces the MOST soy beans in the world? an Asian country we know > >of??? NO! it's the USA... run by demonic leaders. > > Prabhu, I am afraid you will be dismayed to know where the bulk of the > world's commercial cow butter and ghee comes from, which leaders run those > contries and keep those cows and how. However, is it a good reason to oust > butter and ghee from our cooking unless it comes from Vrndavan goshala? > > Your servant, > Madana-mohana das Hare Krishna Prabhus PAMHO, AGTSP So the final verdict is ????? Can someone else from other temples post if they are using soybean oil or not. humbly yours Vidurpriya das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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