gurudeva patita pavana

[Sridas]

It's always dry in me mate, but i have some wonderful mentors to endlessly draw from, their well overfloweth.

i'm told the more one churns.... maybe that's yearns, the more it returns.

Sri Bhakti rasamritam has no circumferance.

[Guest guest]

Precious.

 

 

Other good stuff happening in the world is Prince Charles said that when he gets his coronation he wants a priest from every religion in UK to officiate and

do a ceremony for auspiciousness, including a Hindu priest. This is kind of an amazing precedent when you look at the history of UK.

 

Another good thing happening in the world is at the New College of California there is a BA/ MA you can get in Activism and Social Change. For one of the students' Senior Thesis she successfully introduced a measure making it against the law to grow GMO foods in Mendocino County, and is sharing how to do this with other interested counties, states, and countries.

 

The President of this College recently gave a talk at UC Berkeley re: Spiritual Activism. So there are many good people doing many good things in the world today. A recent interview on Democracy Now! explained recent progress in the ongoing momentum to try Rumsfeld for war crimes and to impeach Dubya.

 

 

 

So thanks to all of those with strong sadhana for helping to stabilize the vibes

on the planet. Oz leading the way with many good things, including a nice sharing of how Radhika observed how the results of Her crying lessons to Krsna in the form of Gadadhara to Mahaprabhu were coming along.

 

I don't feel hopeless that "the HKs blew it". Some people didn't blow it and are quietly doing their good sadhana all over the world. We don't know who they necessarily are but they are there spread out all over the world now.

 

I see the initial stage of KC, 1965-1977, like that of a pebble tossed into a pond. It's myopic to only measure hope and progress by what is happening externally with the pebble, cuz the pebble is supposed to sink to the bottom of the pond.

 

The pebble is supposed to drown, one might say. Isn't that what the prophecy was: those who tasted the Holy Name would drown in the ocean and the others will float on the surface?

 

I see that the many good things happening on the planet today, such as more Hindu temples all over the world, more vegetarians than ever all over the world, and cyber sangha, to be the ripple effects of that giant pebble toss. May more and more waves flow from each Precious Tear of Mahaprabhu!

[Guest guest]

Nice thread. Maybe it was the surfin, Srila Prabhupadas sense of humor, the maoris, but there are nice sentiments expressed here.

 

The tears of Lord Chaitanya are truely connected to the idea of the song of unity. We have chaos, quarrel and confusion, this is the age in which Lord Chaitanya appears. Things are so bad that the people just stand in the river and chant, thus He appears as the song of unity. Even the religious minded have chaos quarrel and confusion, even the hindus, even within the school or sect, there is chaos, quarrel and confusion. Even amongst those who regard Srila Prabhupada as the greatest of all holy men, there still are the effects of this age.

 

But within the sounds of the Holy Names of Krsna, Kali Yuga does not exist. Unity. Maybe another song must be sung, about the waves of the sounds of His Holy Names, thus ensuring that Lord Chaitanyas warm tears continue to flow.

 

Hare Krsna, ys, mahaksadasa

[Guest guest]

DANCE IN TRANCE

-c-1993-mahaksadasa

 

One day, I heard the singing

It was to chant, dance in trance, the bell was ringing

There was pounding of many drums

Like the thunder from the clouds

Voices praising the Lord with song

A complete symphony never ruined with scales

Carried from most High, written in the soul

From overture to grand finale

Pipers, shenais, and didjari doos

Timbales, tympani, tablas

Bellows, strings and rhythms

 

Chant, dance in trance, it's what He is pleading

It's needed in the towns and cities bleeding

It's the focal point of life, but are we heeding?

Can we change the way we think of the lives we are leading?

 

Jeweled turbans and solid golden crowns

Are just heavy burdens if heads never touch the ground

Voices sound just like frogs when not singing of His Fame

Sing praises to the Lion, glorify His Holy Name

 

Hear the songs of the mother to the child in her womb

Hear the drones of the pipers and mourners at the tomb

Hear the sound of the teacher's lesson to his ward

Hear the chanting of the minister's praise to Sweet Lord

 

The Christ and Mohammed sing the same song

At the bay of Bengal, lepers, too, sing along

Ice-fishers living on top of the world

Sing praises to the Master with their bodies unfurled

 

Strings, Drums, and cymbals, voices all chime

This sweetest of messages carried through time

Carry through history His Glory and His Fame

The Waves of the Sound of His Holy Names

 

Harinama, Harinama, Harinama ewa kevalam

Kalau nasteva, nasteva, nasteva, gatih anyatha

[bija]

 

But within the sounds of the Holy Names of Krsna, Kali Yuga does not exist. Unity. quote by mahaksadasa

 

This is such a profound internal realisation.

 

No discrepancy, dispute, indifference....just instrinsic individuality....unity in diversity...........deep deep within...within the Holy Name.

 

and mahak...circa 1993...good vintage...this is a good one!

[Guest guest]

Mahak, you ought to do what all of the old bands do from back in the day and get together with all of the old KC musicians and go on the road!

 

What would a KC All Stars band look and sound like? That is a common theme that I see on this site. Alot of people wishin' for the good ole days when it was kind of innocent and pure. When the music ruled.

 

So go and get all of those [highly respected, revered, and transcendental] old geezers together now and get on the road! Like the Travelling Wilburys or whatever. I mean if MeatLoaf can recycle himself again jeez.

 

Let's see now, who would be in that great HK All Stars band...?

[Sridas]

 

This is such a profound internal realisation.

 

No discrepancy, dispute, indifference....just instrinsic individuality....unity in diversity...........deep deep within...within the Holy Name.

 

and mahak...circa 1993...good vintage...this is a good one!

 

 

Yeah lets see 'em try to bicker and find fault when the Holy Name is dancing on the tongue.

The choice is ours.

 

It's true the Lords Holy Name is like the stillness in the centre of this worldly hurricane.

I remember GM saying when the wave of bhakti is flowing nothing can check it.

[Sridas]

The waves of prema Bhakti

 

That universal wave is the most fundamental current.

Sa vai pumsam paro dharmmo: The highest type of duty for everyone is yato bhaktir adhoksaje, that your attention, your submission will go to Adhoksaja, that unknown universal guardian. Ahaituky-apratihata: this submission is causeless and can never be opposed. The original vibration is forever existing. It is self-existent: none can have created that. It is eternally continuing. and none can oppose it that wave is irresistible. Try to identify your interest with that wave. That is bhakti, bhakti proper. This is the definition of bhakti: sa vai pumsam paro dharmmo; the highest duty of everyone, every soul, is this. That bhakti is adhoksaja. Your attention, your interest should be diverted towards the infinite, to the unknown, to the unknown quarter, up to the Nth degree. The mathematicians speak of calculating, continuing to the Nth degree. But this is beyond the Nth degree. Yato bhaktir adhoksaje. What are its qualities? Ahaituki and apratihata. Ahaituki: No hetu, no cause; it is causeless. And that is eternal, apratihata; it can never be stopped. None can oppose it; none can give any hindrance to it. It is so forceful and continuous, forcefully continuous, that none can stop it.

Such is the original vibration, and that is all sweet, all-accommodating, and all-embracing. So this is the advice of Bhagavatam and Mahaprabhu, and there we will find the wave of love, prema. This is most accommodating comprehensive. And fulfillment is given in that way: bhakti, prema-bhakti love. Without love, none can be, none can hold a dignified position. Everything else is defective only love is perfect. Justice is also defective. Justice comes to divide things between many; no unity results. This is the position of justice. But above that is the land of affection, the land of love, prema-bhumi. Love only can be the most comprehensive cause, it can accommodate or harmonize anything and everything. Love is the most generous, the most accommodating, and the most fulfilling.

This is the conclusion of the Srimad-Bhagavatam, which has been conceived as the ripe fruit of the Veda. The ripe fruit of the Veda means that it is revealed truth. Revealed truth is that which does not originate from the experience of so many fallen souls, from their limited brains. No, it is coming from above, from the land of the eternally extended truth. And ripe fruit means it is in its full-fledged position, the highest conception of love. There we will find love, beauty, affection, mercy, charm. They are all similar, of the same taste and kind.

Our soul must go to that land of love. This body will remain here. Our mind which is always seeking the limited happiness of this world will also be dissolved. They will all disappear. At present, the body and the mind are our property. But the inner factor, the soul that conscious unit which is within us can only be a member of that soil. Soul is our proper self, and these other things are all encasements. The mental system and the physical system are encasements, and they want this mortal world. That is their misconception.

 

 

[bija]

 

None can oppose it; none can give any hindrance to it. It is so forceful and continuous, forcefully continuous, that none can stop it. Srila Sridhara Maharaja quoted by Sridas

[Sridas]

We sometimes baulk at this word force because it tends to imply a movement going against our will, (which in reality is His anyway, but he gave it to us to play with) But perhaps if it were left up to us we would never budge from our entrenched bondage to this material sphere, and therefore the gentle Tsunami of Bhakti, the life force of Sri Chaitanya has swept into our procrastinating sleeping souls in the dead of night with His causeless swell of mercy.

A little like a gentle push from a loving parent teaching their child to surf but once on that wave the child can see for themselves, "Oh what an exhilirating movement," and there is a whole ocean of them that just keep coming.

Whereas the controlled misuse of force in the wrong hands creates a repulsive rejection of that will behind it. Therefore Srila Guru Maharaj descibes this wave of Bhakti as irresistable.

[Guest guest]

Bahudaka, visnujnana, sudama swami. Like jerry, jimi, and jim.

 

In the "george has left" thread, which is still current, another passed friend, srimati jayaradhe dd, made some lovely points. I love that thread, and im not just being nostalgic, nor thinking the passed are more valid than the present.

 

But transcendental means "to what"? Time and space. that is what. Bahudaka still pouinds them drums and plays that sweet harmonium, and Srila Prabhupada is eternally in Thompkins Square. Harinam is not bound by our considerations of past and present.

 

Maybe Ill plug in soon, get the old Ibanex Artist out of mothballs, start up the generator and get the Peavy stereo-chorus amp with twenty three echo channels going again. Or I could just grab the suitcase harmonium (yeah, those old green treasures) and not bother with the rigamarole.

 

haribol, ys, mahaksadasa

[mahak]

<CENTER>WAVES

mahaksadasa, 1995

Waves of planets rolling through space

Explosions and fiyeh all ovah di place.

Molten earth rising and breaking on the plain,

Waves of creation cooled by the rain.

Waves carve the shoreline as they see fit

Removing the mansions, but who will admit

That the waves have the power, not the surfer who rides

Creator of waves is He who decides

Which wave of fiyeh will consume the whole world

It happens all di time, or haven't you heard

All of us know that surely He'll save

Us, but I'm sure He'll give us a wave

Waves in di air, waves in di sound

Breaks in di waves and we just play around

Breaks in di waves, ride in di trim

Wave after wave, Oh Govinda, praise Him</CENTER>

[Guruvani]

I hate to brag, but my ol' "Rock OM Band" from Badger/Three Rivers kicked butt!

I was the predominant lead singer and guitar player, Ramadasa Abhirama das played keyboards and vocals, Bahulavan on bass and some assorted other guitar players and back-up singers.

The band grew to about 9 people until we decided we had to reduce the band down to a reasonable group.(5 members)

We played at the Venice Beach Rathayatra in about 95' I guess.

 

I wrote most of the songs that our "fans" liked the most.

I gave it up to move to Florida, because I didn't like Kalifornia.

I started another band here with some young devotee dudes.

Then my wife started losing her head.

My marriage was over and I gave up music ever since to concentrate on being a single Dad for the last 10 years - sold my guitar, drums and all my music equipement and haven't touched anything in 10 years.

 

Making music was a lot of fun.

Especially when people were really groovin' on my original songs.

 

Maybe I did up some of my lyrics and post'em?

[Guest guest]

yes to both Mahak and Guruvani, get the music goin'. Now there are many more venues than ever before! Look at how popular Krishnadas is, he's just travelling around the world and sharing the sweetness. You can put your stuff on youtube right away! There are recording studios all over the place now and it's cheaper than ever. I think you both could do really well.

 

Aren't there colleges near where you both live? And they have college radio/ alternative radio stations there? Usually college radio has a new DJ every 2 hours. And each DJ is a specialist in a certain genre of music. At one college radio station that I know of, there are at least 3 DJs who would probably luv your music. One is the old hippie guy, with a retro sixties show. Another DJ is the young spiritual guy, who starts every show with Krishnadas bhajans. The third DJ is a girl who does world music/ New Age music. That college radio is also available online as streaming radio. The alumni all over the country listen in. And they do because they call in all of the time from all around the world.

 

Please you can do it. We need the Love Bombs of the Holy Name spread all around. That is who we need to win in 2008: the Holy Name. There's a cute book that you might like by Toni Morrison, actually co-written with her and her son. It's the story of the Ant and the Grasshopper redux. The story is rewritten so that it encourages and supports those whose strength is the arts, like musicians, artists, poets. In her version, instead of the ant dissing the grasshopper for not working and the grasshopper taking the psych abuse and emo abuse and verbal abuse from the bourgeoise ant, the grasshopper artiste stood up for himself and said, "What do you mean, I didn't work the whole summer? What do you think I was doing? I was playing music with my wings; you enjoyed it! And then I was rapping and entertaining you, with my words and poetry. You enjoyed it! It helped you to work hard: listening to me, laughing at my jokes, enjoying my music and rapping. That is how I work. Work is not just all about carrying things. Artists work, too!"

 

I think that it is soooo important for artists to share their home-grown music. I feel very sad and sorry when I hear some people, not necessarily anyone on this forum, hero worshipping other human beings. Because I think that we all are heroes and we all have something positive we've done and some special gifts to share with the world. And I feel very sad to hear people think that there is something wrong with them and that other people are better than them. Especially if you don't even know the people you are worshipping very well. I'd rather see 1,000 garage bands all contributing to the local scene than one hero worshipped mainstream music band.

 

Although I am sure that they were nice people, I feel sad when people think that only Visnujana, Sudama, and whoever was all of that. I think that everyone here, if you are a creative person then my hat is off to you. If you are creative and know how to sing and write and play music then I think that it would be worthwhile to share it with the world. Think globally and act locally at the very least. Prabhupada did say that all of his disciples were pure devotees and that anyone who read his books was his disciple and initiated by him that way.

 

You can share the music easier than ever before: due to the specialized niche markets, more categories of music than ever before, easier for people to produce it like garage band CDs, and easier for people to share it like college radio and youtube. Well I can't encourage you enough to get into your music if you are able to do that.

 

Recently I heard a DJ interview Krishna das and asked him what was so special about chanting the Maha Mantra. And he said, "You know, we have forgotten how to give ourselves a break, man. Everybody is so busy, rushing around. And not only rushing around, they are feeling down about themselves: I'm too fat; I'm too thin; I'm not rich enough. Nobody has a surplus to give to anyone else. But when you chant these transcendental sounds, man...you get in touch with who you really are...then when you know who you really are, you feel peace within your heart. And when you feel peace within your own heart, then you can give others a break, man."

 

It was such a great interview. The guy sounded totally stoned on the Holy Name. Nothing political: nothing about whose matha is better, nothing about you have to surrender to the Temple Authorities, nothing about who is a Pure Devotee and who isn't, nothing about which Political Party is better: Facism Heavy or Fascism Lite?, nothing about is the moon farther from the sun or not

It was just all about; "We've forgotten how to give ourselves a break, man."

 

Gary Snyder, the Zen poet laureate spoke about making a commitment to place. You both have made a commitment to place. Gary Snyder added that part of making a commitment to place is putting yourself out there as a local poet, musician, or artist. It's like the EF Schumacher principle of Small is Beautiful as applied to the arts. It would be nice for your local community if you could share your talents and to do so would be part of the ecological virtue of commitment to place. Mahak some of your stuff could even do double duty at a local poetry slam, hmm? Guruvani's, too?

[Guest guest]

For excellent advice. Actually, Im working on it. I have so much recorded stuff, but now Im working on how to get it into internet format. As far as books and poetry goes, I got all that stuff done as well, novels, concept songs (ala jethro tull, the Who, Pink Floyd, etc).

 

Just around the corner, over the next hill, like trying to find Lunada Bay on the Palos Verdes Peninsula. Then ya gotta rock dance after ya park the rig.

 

Haribol, your post is very profopund, as in Psalm 40, where the great Rastafarian King David says that we dont keep the word silent in the assembly.

 

U2 did a great rendition of Psalm 40, titled "40", on their second album, before Joshua Tree made them big.

 

haribol, ys, in appreciation, mahaksadasa