Guest guest Posted November 15, 2006 Report Share Posted November 15, 2006 Namaste` Family, While I have been quite, I continue to carry you in my heart. The Kasyapa Sutras are very dear to me. Some thoughts... Text referenced and quoted is Guru and the Goddess. Notes from my thoughts and from the online group discussion. Sutri 1. parabdhavasat janma >From the text Guru and the Goddess: Janma means birth. Vasat means bound, dependent upon Parabdha karma means those actions commenced in the past which are coming to fruition now and in the future. In the text it says that birth is dependent upon the parabdha karma, those actions commenced in the past which are coming to fruition, to fulfillment, now and in the future. As we react we shoot more arrows and creating more karma that must be played out. Reading sutra one, what strikes me is the order and meaning of the words. I do not know Sanskrit grammar so perhaps someone can correct me if my ignorance is leading thinking astray. What about looking at it in this order as well: Parabdha karma means those actions commenced in the past which are coming to fruition now and in the future. Vasat means bound, dependent upon Janma means birth. I would venture also that besides birth being dependent on parabdha karma as is stated, the ripening or expression of parabdha karma is dependent upon birth. Perhaps this is one of the unique or special aspects of human birth. Expression of karma is dependent upon birth. If She is All, in Christianity the Alpha and the Omega, in Samkhya, Prakriti, then all karma is also Her, Her expression. We are Her and our karma is also of Her. I also love the discussion that follows (excerpts from the text). "When one attains udasa, the spirit of surrendering, then there is total acceptance of every circumstance without the shooting of new arrows." I love this as a goal (udasa), to live and appreciate human birth, but live without shooting new arrows. To be a channel, a clear channel for Her expression...remembering it is All the Divine Lila....not getting caught up in our temporary roles. What freedom!!! True freedom from suffering. Jai Maa The text goes on to say: "We free ourselves from reactions of desire or revulsion. We see all of the parabdha karma that commenced in the past and watch dispassionately as all of those arrows land, without firing again." As part of a discussion of the various kinds of karma the text states: "Nityakarma is complete union (yoga), eternal, the activies which are eternal. There is complete cessation of the activities of the objects of consciousness; there is a perfectly still consciousness. There is no modification or change, there is yoga, union." Is nityakarma the state of Samadhi or God-Realization? It seems that once a person achieves udasa then nityakarma becomes possible. Is this the path you are teaching us Shree Maa? "With this knowledge it behooves us to perform every action as thoroughly and efficiently as possible, so we don't have to come back to finish our incomplete work. "What are you trying to accomplish" with your anger, laziness, etc. THINK, Maa says and direct and redirect your mind to God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2006 Report Share Posted November 15, 2006 Welcome home Sadhu Maa,...you've been missed. Tanmaya , "Sadhu Maa" <sadumaa wrote: > > Namaste` Family, > While I have been quite, I continue to carry you in my heart. The > Kasyapa Sutras are very dear to me. Some thoughts... > > Text referenced and quoted is Guru and the Goddess. Notes from my > thoughts and from the online group discussion. > > Sutri 1. parabdhavasat janma > > From the text Guru and the Goddess: > > Janma means birth. > Vasat means bound, dependent upon > Parabdha karma means those actions commenced in the past which are > coming to fruition now and in the future. > > In the text it says that birth is dependent upon the parabdha karma, > those actions commenced in the past which are coming to fruition, to > fulfillment, now and in the future. As we react we shoot more arrows > and creating more karma that must be played out. > > Reading sutra one, what strikes me is the order and meaning of the > words. I do not know Sanskrit grammar so perhaps someone can correct > me if my ignorance is leading thinking astray. What about looking at > it in this order as well: > > Parabdha karma means those actions commenced in the past which are > coming to fruition now and in the future. > Vasat means bound, dependent upon > Janma means birth. > > I would venture also that besides birth being dependent on parabdha > karma as is stated, the ripening or expression of parabdha karma is > dependent upon birth. Perhaps this is one of the unique or special > aspects of human birth. Expression of karma is dependent upon birth. > If She is All, in Christianity the Alpha and the Omega, in Samkhya, > Prakriti, then all karma is also Her, Her expression. We are Her and > our karma is also of Her. > > I also love the discussion that follows (excerpts from the text). > > "When one attains udasa, the spirit of surrendering, then there is > total acceptance of every circumstance without the shooting of new > arrows." > > I love this as a goal (udasa), to live and appreciate human birth, but > live without shooting new arrows. To be a channel, a clear channel for > Her expression...remembering it is All the Divine Lila....not getting > caught up in our temporary roles. What freedom!!! True freedom from > suffering. Jai Maa > > The text goes on to say: > "We free ourselves from reactions of desire or revulsion. We see all > of the parabdha karma that commenced in the past and watch > dispassionately as all of those arrows land, without firing again." > > As part of a discussion of the various kinds of karma the text states: > > "Nityakarma is complete union (yoga), eternal, the activies which are > eternal. There is complete cessation of the activities of the objects > of consciousness; there is a perfectly still consciousness. There is > no modification or change, there is yoga, union." > > Is nityakarma the state of Samadhi or God-Realization? It seems that > once a person achieves udasa then nityakarma becomes possible. > > Is this the path you are teaching us Shree Maa? > > "With this knowledge it behooves us to perform every action as > thoroughly and efficiently as possible, so we don't have to come back > to finish our incomplete work. > > "What are you trying to accomplish" with your anger, laziness, etc. > THINK, Maa says and direct and redirect your mind to God. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Hi Sadhu Maa, Very lovely comments...yes, the relationship between birth and karma and life is as you have said; the reason karma results in birth is for the sake of its fruition, and it is all Her. Swamiji discusses this, I think, in Before Becoming This. The attainment of the state of udasa is a beautiful goal, and it is tied to the next sutra too, because it lacks any selfish desire. Jai Maa! Chris , "Sadhu Maa" <sadumaa wrote: > > Namaste` Family, > While I have been quite, I continue to carry you in my heart. The > Kasyapa Sutras are very dear to me. Some thoughts... > > Text referenced and quoted is Guru and the Goddess. Notes from my > thoughts and from the online group discussion. > > Sutri 1. parabdhavasat janma > > From the text Guru and the Goddess: > > Janma means birth. > Vasat means bound, dependent upon > Parabdha karma means those actions commenced in the past which are > coming to fruition now and in the future. > > In the text it says that birth is dependent upon the parabdha karma, > those actions commenced in the past which are coming to fruition, to > fulfillment, now and in the future. As we react we shoot more arrows > and creating more karma that must be played out. > > Reading sutra one, what strikes me is the order and meaning of the > words. I do not know Sanskrit grammar so perhaps someone can correct > me if my ignorance is leading thinking astray. What about looking at > it in this order as well: > > Parabdha karma means those actions commenced in the past which are > coming to fruition now and in the future. > Vasat means bound, dependent upon > Janma means birth. > > I would venture also that besides birth being dependent on parabdha > karma as is stated, the ripening or expression of parabdha karma is > dependent upon birth. Perhaps this is one of the unique or special > aspects of human birth. Expression of karma is dependent upon birth. > If She is All, in Christianity the Alpha and the Omega, in Samkhya, > Prakriti, then all karma is also Her, Her expression. We are Her and > our karma is also of Her. > > I also love the discussion that follows (excerpts from the text). > > "When one attains udasa, the spirit of surrendering, then there is > total acceptance of every circumstance without the shooting of new > arrows." > > I love this as a goal (udasa), to live and appreciate human birth, but > live without shooting new arrows. To be a channel, a clear channel for > Her expression...remembering it is All the Divine Lila....not getting > caught up in our temporary roles. What freedom!!! True freedom from > suffering. Jai Maa > > The text goes on to say: > "We free ourselves from reactions of desire or revulsion. We see all > of the parabdha karma that commenced in the past and watch > dispassionately as all of those arrows land, without firing again." > > As part of a discussion of the various kinds of karma the text states: > > "Nityakarma is complete union (yoga), eternal, the activies which are > eternal. There is complete cessation of the activities of the objects > of consciousness; there is a perfectly still consciousness. There is > no modification or change, there is yoga, union." > > Is nityakarma the state of Samadhi or God-Realization? It seems that > once a person achieves udasa then nityakarma becomes possible. > > Is this the path you are teaching us Shree Maa? > > "With this knowledge it behooves us to perform every action as > thoroughly and efficiently as possible, so we don't have to come back > to finish our incomplete work. > > "What are you trying to accomplish" with your anger, laziness, etc. > THINK, Maa says and direct and redirect your mind to God. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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