Guest guest Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 In a message dated 11/8/2006 6:50:01 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, shaantih (AT) comcast (DOT) net writes: souldreamone (AT) AOL (DOT) com Wednesday, November 08, 2006 3:07 AM Re: Good God! "How can it be explained unless goodness is the bridge to the Absolute?" Welp, I don't think human judgment makes a particularly 'good' bridge, or has any relationship to divinity at all. It could be explained simply, by noticing that what we posit as the Source, creator, controller of our destiny (in most beliefs) is something we very much want to be good. It wouldn't do at all to be at the mercy of an evil God, unless of course it's to be used as a tool of control and power. If we're going to make up stories, they should be comfy ones, doncha think? Mayhaps the 'bridge' to the Absolute is to release all judgments, 'good' or 'bad'? Phil ============================================================== Welp, Phil, there is a big difference between thinking and knowing. Welp, Joyce, that was an opinion. There is no universal truth to be known about judgment serving as a bridge to divinity. There is a context in which everything serves, including judgment. That opinion is as valid as the one I gave. Although I will agree with you that under our standards of judgment, good or not good or not anything, is tainted by the judgment itself. Yet, what should we choose? Under your system, mayhaps the bridge is to release ALL judgments? That would then have to include yours, no? ;-) Joyce Yes, all value judgments, including mine. Why would mine not be included? However, discernments are not value judgments. To discern what is so, or what appears to be so, is not problematic because there is no egoic involvement; no evaluation of good/bad, attachment to outcome or ego position established and defended. What should we choose? The choosing is the imagining of the presence of a chooser, and this does create a bit of a problem. Is it believed that the human is an independent volitional being set in opposition to the Totality of all that IS? Since this is not so, it becomes the source of endless struggle, failure and suffering. The "should" originates in the imagined self that attaches itself to outcomes and decides that God (or an imagined self) should have done things differently. Unfortunately for that imagined self, God is gonna win. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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