[sri ramanuja] Can't Our Lord take one more Avatara?

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Om namo narayanaya.

Dear Swamin,

God Srimannarayana has taken ten avataraas to shista rakshana and dusta shikshana. At that time rakshasas were great bhaktaas, but they have called so because of only one of their mistake or misbehaviour. To save from them God has come to Earth by taking avataraas.

Presently we know how many types of Rakshas are there in around us, In one every human body so many types of rakshaas are there. Can't God is going to save us from them. According to my knowledge only God can make us change our lives.

Can any body teach me that when is God going to come ?

namostuthe

Shekar

 

 

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Dear Shekar Babu swamin

 

All the time, when a stronger force of athism come in

to being, the equal and opposit force also comes and

takes care of balancing. For example, we will take the

concept of aDwaitHA. They consider or perceive

themselves as God. That is one form of atheism. Now

there are many vedic scholars in that clan also. Still

they consider themselves as no different from God. For

example, rAvanA or Hiranya kasipu etc considered

themselves as God or atleast that is what they wished.

If you investigate their life, they all are highly

learned scholars of vedic literature. Many even though

they saw the God before them they could not recognize

or acknowledge that they are not indeed God but the

part and parcel of Supreme.

 

On the other hand they were so strong that they were

able to shake entire world including many heavenly

lokas. When the literature talks of rAvanA won battle

again agni, vAyu etc the meaning is he was able to

manipulate the whole cosmos system. Since the complete

knowledge on every thing including prakruthi was

available in Vedic literature, he got immense power

because of understanding every aspect of prakruthi. As

soon as he got those powers, he started to perceive

that he is indeed God. Same adWaitha theory. So in a

way if some one follows adWaitHA they are doing same

mistake as those committed by rAvanA etc.

 

If we further dwell on the subject with respect to the

present world, the Christinity and Islam is

contributing to nearly 60 % of the world population.

Both even though does follow the principle of God's

worship in primitive form, still hold on to the

theology of God is supreme and not themselves. And

when you take the remaining population, of Bhuddist

and Hindus atleast another 20 % of world population

including both Hindus and Bhudhist will not consider

them selves as supreme. Hence there is no real danger

for dHarmA. And hence God need not have to take the

avatAraA now.

 

What is going on in the world is minor skirmishes when

compared to the rAvaNAs and hiranya kasibu. So do not

get disheartened by what is happening arround us. This

is nothing when compared to the time of those rAksHas.

 

 

As long as human are fighting among themsleves, there

is no problem for demigods. When the human gets

sufficient knowledge and power to influence the cosmic

system that is when God takes avatarA.

 

Now let us take our poorvacharyas and AlwArs examples.

They were able to perceive inside them as well as

outside the presense of Lord because of their bHAvA

and unflinching faith "maHA viSHwAsam" on him. They

saw every thing happening around them as his sankalpa.

So they were able to see him every where. We normal

soul need prathyaksham for every thing with our

fallable senses we want confirmation and

acknowledgement to even commit to his service. That is

why we are not seeing him every where and for many of

us even in the sanctum santoram of great temples like

Srirangam.

 

adiyen has not got no knowledge but what I feel is

seeing or feeling the presense of Lord starts

internally first.

 

adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan

 

Suresh

 

--- shekar babu <prs_raaj (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

 

> Om namo narayanaya.

>

> Dear Swamin,

>

> God Srimannarayana has taken ten avataraas to

> shista rakshana and dusta shikshana. At that time

> rakshasas were great bhaktaas, but they have called

> so because of only one of their mistake or

> misbehaviour. To save from them God has come to

> Earth by taking avataraas.

>

> Presently we know how many types of Rakshas are

> there in around us, In one every human body so many

> types of rakshaas are there. Can't God is going to

> save us from them. According to my knowledge only

> God can make us change our lives.

>

> Can any body teach me that when is God going to

> come ?

>

> namostuthe

>

> Shekar

>

>

>

>

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Srimathe Ramanujaya namaha

 

(long ago I read this from the magazine 'Thuglak').

 

Genereally going by various avatars, it can be said

that there are two elements for an avatar to take

place

 

1. dushta nigraha and 2. shista paripalayana. Sure

there are dushtas all over but God is waiting for just

one pure devotee (shista) to be saved from the former.

 

Maybe the Lord (Sriman Narayana) is trying to find

that one sincere devotee ???

 

Dasan

Varadan

--- shekar babu <prs_raaj (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

 

> Om namo narayanaya.

>

> Dear Swamin,

>

> God Srimannarayana has taken ten avataraas to

> shista rakshana and dusta shikshana. At that time

> rakshasas were great bhaktaas, but they have called

> so because of only one of their mistake or

> misbehaviour. To save from them God has come to

> Earth by taking avataraas.

>

> Presently we know how many types of Rakshas are

> there in around us, In one every human body so many

> types of rakshaas are there. Can't God is going to

> save us from them. According to my knowledge only

> God can make us change our lives.

>

> Can any body teach me that when is God going to

> come ?

>

> namostuthe

>

> Shekar

>

>

>

>

>

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Srimathe Ramanujaya namah.

Jai Sri Krishna

Following on from the previous point. Accroding to Gitaji the Lord comes to protect the good and destory wicked, however the main reason for his decent is to be close to his great bhaktas who he loves so much. So lest ask our selves are there many Yashodas, Nandababas, Gopis, Prahlads, Kaushalyas, etc.. in our world today?

Also we need to remember the theology behind the Vibhava avatara. Bhagavan comes down very occasionaly and only they very pious can see Him in this form. The Last major descent of Sri Krishna was 5000 years ago which in vedic cosmic time is very recent. So it it may be too soon for Bhagavn to come now. We also need to remember that the work of the Avatara continues after he departs, he leaves teachings and pastimes that devotees remember which in turn continues to save us. So we are still reading Gita, Ramayana etc...So the prescence of Krishna is still with us in the teaching of Gita!

Secondly according to SriVaisnava theoloy the murthi in mandirs is also avatara (Archa avatara) and should be viewed as Bhagavan himself and not a simple representation or symbol.

Finaly we still have many great Mahatmas who are present on this earth who can lead us to Him, such as HH Cinna Jeeyar swami.

So in summary Bhagavan can take Avatara at His own will and pleasure, but we must have the strong desire to see him!

s v <sunvar01 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Srimathe Ramanujaya namaha

 

(long ago I read this from the magazine 'Thuglak').

 

Genereally going by various avatars, it can be said

that there are two elements for an avatar to take

place

 

1. dushta nigraha and 2. shista paripalayana. Sure

there are dushtas all over but God is waiting for just

one pure devotee (shista) to be saved from the former.

 

Maybe the Lord (Sriman Narayana) is trying to find

that one sincere devotee ???

 

Dasan

Varadan

--- shekar babu <prs_raaj (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

 

> Om namo narayanaya.

>

> Dear Swamin,

>

> God Srimannarayana has taken ten avataraas to

> shista rakshana and dusta shikshana. At that time

> rakshasas were great bhaktaas, but they have called

> so because of only one of their mistake or

> misbehaviour. To save from them God has come to

> Earth by taking avataraas.

>

> Presently we know how many types of Rakshas are

> there in around us, In one every human body so many

> types of rakshaas are there. Can't God is going to

> save us from them. According to my knowledge only

> God can make us change our lives.

>

> Can any body teach me that when is God going to

> come ?

>

> namostuthe

>

> Shekar

>

>

>

>

>

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om namo narayanaya

Dear Suresh swamin,

Thank you for litting up my knowledge lamp. As you said it is necessory to stop competing with each others among human beings. I agree with what you said.

namosthuthe

shekar

 

suresh iyengar <kp_suresh512 > wrote:

Dear Shekar Babu swamin

 

All the time, when a stronger force of athism come in

to being, the equal and opposit force also comes and

takes care of balancing. For example, we will take the

concept of aDwaitHA. They consider or perceive

themselves as God. That is one form of atheism. Now

there are many vedic scholars in that clan also. Still

they consider themselves as no different from God. For

example, rAvanA or Hiranya kasipu etc considered

themselves as God or atleast that is what they wished.

If you investigate their life, they all are highly

learned scholars of vedic literature. Many even though

they saw the God before them they could not recognize

or acknowledge that they are not indeed God but the

part and parcel of Supreme.

 

On the other hand they were so strong that they were

able to shake entire world including many heavenly

lokas. When the literature talks of rAvanA won battle

again agni, vAyu etc the meaning is he was able to

manipulate the whole cosmos system. Since the complete

knowledge on every thing including prakruthi was

available in Vedic literature, he got immense power

because of understanding every aspect of prakruthi. As

soon as he got those powers, he started to perceive

that he is indeed God. Same adWaitha theory. So in a

way if some one follows adWaitHA they are doing same

mistake as those committed by rAvanA etc.

 

If we further dwell on the subject with respect to the

present world, the Christinity and Islam is

contributing to nearly 60 % of the world population.

Both even though does follow the principle of God's

worship in primitive form, still hold on to the

theology of God is supreme and not themselves. And

when you take the remaining population, of Bhuddist

and Hindus atleast another 20 % of world population

including both Hindus and Bhudhist will not consider

them selves as supreme. Hence there is no real danger

for dHarmA. And hence God need not have to take the

avatAraA now.

 

What is going on in the world is minor skirmishes when

compared to the rAvaNAs and hiranya kasibu. So do not

get disheartened by what is happening arround us. This

is nothing when compared to the time of those rAksHas.

 

As long as human are fighting among themsleves, there

is no problem for demigods. When the human gets

sufficient knowledge and power to influence the cosmic

system that is when God takes avatarA.

 

Now let us take our poorvacharyas and AlwArs examples.

They were able to perceive inside them as well as

outside the presense of Lord because of their bHAvA

and unflinching faith "maHA viSHwAsam" on him. They

saw every thing happening around them as his sankalpa.

So they were able to see him every where. We normal

soul need prathyaksham for every thing with our

fallable senses we want confirmation and

acknowledgement to even commit to his service. That is

why we are not seeing him every where and for many of

us even in the sanctum santoram of great temples like

Srirangam.

 

adiyen has not got no knowledge but what I feel is

seeing or feeling the presense of Lord starts

internally first.

 

adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan

 

Suresh

 

--- shekar babu <prs_raaj (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

 

> Om namo narayanaya.

>

> Dear Swamin,

>

> God Srimannarayana has taken ten avataraas to

> shista rakshana and dusta shikshana. At that time

> rakshasas were great bhaktaas, but they have called

> so because of only one of their mistake or

> misbehaviour. To save from them God has come to

> Earth by taking avataraas.

>

> Presently we know how many types of Rakshas are

> there in around us, In one every human body so many

> types of rakshaas are there. Can't God is going to

> save us from them. According to my knowledge only

> God can make us change our lives.

>

> Can any body teach me that when is God going to

> come ?

>

> namostuthe

>

> Shekar

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Shekar Babu swamin

 

Per one view of a devotee competing among devotees in

serving the supreme and his devotees are most pleasent

treat for the Supreme

 

adiyen rAmAnuja dAsan

 

Suresh

 

--- shekar babu <prs_raaj (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

 

> om namo narayanaya

>

> Dear Suresh swamin,

>

> Thank you for litting up my knowledge lamp. As

> you said it is necessory to stop competing with each

> others among human beings. I agree with what you

> said.

>

> namosthuthe

>

> shekar

>

>

>

>

> suresh iyengar <kp_suresh512 > wrote:

> Dear Shekar Babu swamin

>

> All the time, when a stronger force of athism come

> in

> to being, the equal and opposit force also comes and

> takes care of balancing. For example, we will take

> the

> concept of aDwaitHA. They consider or perceive

> themselves as God. That is one form of atheism. Now

> there are many vedic scholars in that clan also.

> Still

> they consider themselves as no different from God.

> For

> example, rAvanA or Hiranya kasipu etc considered

> themselves as God or atleast that is what they

> wished.

> If you investigate their life, they all are highly

> learned scholars of vedic literature. Many even

> though

> they saw the God before them they could not

> recognize

> or acknowledge that they are not indeed God but the

> part and parcel of Supreme.

>

> On the other hand they were so strong that they were

> able to shake entire world including many heavenly

> lokas. When the literature talks of rAvanA won

> battle

> again agni, vAyu etc the meaning is he was able to

> manipulate the whole cosmos system. Since the

> complete

> knowledge on every thing including prakruthi was

> available in Vedic literature, he got immense power

> because of understanding every aspect of prakruthi.

> As

> soon as he got those powers, he started to perceive

> that he is indeed God. Same adWaitha theory. So in a

> way if some one follows adWaitHA they are doing same

> mistake as those committed by rAvanA etc.

>

> If we further dwell on the subject with respect to

> the

> present world, the Christinity and Islam is

> contributing to nearly 60 % of the world population.

> Both even though does follow the principle of God's

> worship in primitive form, still hold on to the

> theology of God is supreme and not themselves. And

> when you take the remaining population, of Bhuddist

> and Hindus atleast another 20 % of world population

> including both Hindus and Bhudhist will not consider

> them selves as supreme. Hence there is no real

> danger

> for dHarmA. And hence God need not have to take the

> avatAraA now.

>

> What is going on in the world is minor skirmishes

> when

> compared to the rAvaNAs and hiranya kasibu. So do

> not

> get disheartened by what is happening arround us.

> This

> is nothing when compared to the time of those

> rAksHas.

>

> As long as human are fighting among themsleves,

> there

> is no problem for demigods. When the human gets

> sufficient knowledge and power to influence the

> cosmic

> system that is when God takes avatarA.

>

> Now let us take our poorvacharyas and AlwArs

> examples.

> They were able to perceive inside them as well as

> outside the presense of Lord because of their bHAvA

> and unflinching faith "maHA viSHwAsam" on him. They

> saw every thing happening around them as his

> sankalpa.

> So they were able to see him every where. We normal

> soul need prathyaksham for every thing with our

> fallable senses we want confirmation and

> acknowledgement to even commit to his service. That

> is

> why we are not seeing him every where and for many

> of

> us even in the sanctum santoram of great temples

> like

> Srirangam.

>

> adiyen has not got no knowledge but what I feel is

> seeing or feeling the presense of Lord starts

> internally first.

>

> adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan

>

> Suresh

>

> --- shekar babu <prs_raaj (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

>

> > Om namo narayanaya.

> >

> > Dear Swamin,

> >

> > God Srimannarayana has taken ten avataraas to

> > shista rakshana and dusta shikshana. At that time

> > rakshasas were great bhaktaas, but they have

> called

> > so because of only one of their mistake or

> > misbehaviour. To save from them God has come to

> > Earth by taking avataraas.

> >

> > Presently we know how many types of Rakshas are

> > there in around us, In one every human body so

> many

> > types of rakshaas are there. Can't God is going to

> > save us from them. According to my knowledge only

> > God can make us change our lives.

> >

> > Can any body teach me that when is God going to

> > come ?

> >

> > namostuthe

> >

> > Shekar

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Sri:||

Dear bhagavathAs,

 

first let adiyEn clears some point in the question

asked by Sri Shekar. He pointed,

 

> > God Srimannarayana has taken ten avataraas

 

So far He had taken only nine avatArs. The tenth

avatAr - Kalki avatAr has to be taken by Him at the

end of this Yukham.

 

Then the second point which adiyEn wants to clear

as mentioned by Sri Shekar:

 

> > According to my knowledge only

> > God can make us change our lives.

 

"Only God can make us change" is the wrong argument.

Eventhough He change our lives indirectly, ONLY

achAryAs can directly change and root us into good

path of salvation.

 

In next mail adiyEn explains the importance of

ArchA avataram of emperumAn with the remaining four

forms.

 

adiyEn,

senthil.b

 

 

 

>

> --- shekar babu <prs_raaj (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

>

> > Om namo narayanaya.

> >

> > Dear Swamin,

> >

> > God Srimannarayana has taken ten avataraas to

> > shista rakshana and dusta shikshana. At that time

> > rakshasas were great bhaktaas, but they have

> called

> > so because of only one of their mistake or

> > misbehaviour. To save from them God has come to

> > Earth by taking avataraas.

> >

> > Presently we know how many types of Rakshas are

> > there in around us, In one every human body so

> many

> > types of rakshaas are there. Can't God is going to

> > save us from them. According to my knowledge only

> > God can make us change our lives.

> >

> > Can any body teach me that when is God going to

> > come ?

> >

> > namostuthe

> >

> > Shekar

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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