Guest guest Posted November 15, 2006 Report Share Posted November 15, 2006 5. The Kenopanishad II.i. 1 and 2 mantras speak of this. Shankara describes the transformation the student/sadhaka undergoes between the first mantra and the second one, dramatically: evam AchAryoktaH shiShyaH yEkAnte upaviShTaH samAhitaH san, yathOktam AchAryeNa AgamArthato vichaarya, tarkatashcha nirdhArya, SVAANUBHAVAM KRUTVAA, AchAryasakAsham upagamya uvAcha : manye aham atha idAnIm viditam Brahma iti. (After having been told so by the Teacher, the disciple sat in solitude with his mind concentrated, deliberated, made It a matter of personal experience and approached the teacher (in the class) and said: `Now I think Brahman is known'.) praNAms Sri SubramaNian prabhuji Hare Krishna We have seen earlier, discussion between you and me always produces more heat than light!! Hence, I forcefully desisted myself from commenting on your recent posts..that is including your references from my parama guruji Sri SSS's works & kAryalaya publication works etc..But your above para & explanation from kEna shruti tempted me to write few lines. Kindly note here svAnubhavaM krutva does not anyway mean aspirant has the time bound experience like nirvikalpa samAdhi in a solitude place...After hearing the teachings of his teacher he went to a solitude place did the vichAra through AgamArtha ( which has been explained earlier as tadviditAdathO aviditAdadi in the same upanishad) contemplated & realzed through tarka..your above quote AgamArthato vichArya, tarkatashcha nirdhArya justifies this...so personal experience is not time bound experience of brahman, the spiritual practice explained above is shravaNa, manana & nidhidhyAsana...The very next mantra in the upanishad confirms this...Anyway, let us not go into the details of those things...I shall stop here. By the way one small curious academic question while on the subject, what exactly is the difference between bhAmati & vivaraNa interpretation of shankara bhAshya...if there is nothing why there are two names?? I know you are the follower of bhAmati school, Sri SSS in his work vEdAnta prakriya pratyabhijna quotes some major differences between these schools & show us how these two schools have gone against shankara's mUla bhAshya..if you are really interested to show us that bhAmati is true to mUla shankara siddhAnta kindly show us where Sri SSS has gone wrong while interpreting shankara bhAshya & comparing with that of vyAkhyAna-s... praNAms onceagain Hari Hari Hari Bol!!! bhaskar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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