Guest guest Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 Jai Maa, I am quite new to this group. I am facing some confusion regarding the pronunciation of Beej Mantras. I have consulted some pandits and astrologers who opined that both ways are correct. They say that pronuncing "Aing" is as useful and correct as if being pronunced as"Aim". Hence, Aim Hrim Klim is equally accepted as Aing Hring Kling. Is this correct ? Kindly guide Regards Nitin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 Hi Nitin, Welcome! My understanding of this issue is that your pandits are correct, both are OK, with this caveat: If you have a gurudeva you are devoted to, you should find out how that guru's tradition pronounces them and follow that. Here at the Devi Mandir we pronounce them more or less like aing. Swamiji calles it "the Tantric way". Jai Maa! Chris , "Nik" <ntngpt wrote: > > Jai Maa, > > I am quite new to this group. I am facing some confusion regarding the > pronunciation of Beej Mantras. I have consulted some pandits and > astrologers who opined that both ways are correct. They say that > pronuncing "Aing" is as useful and correct as if being pronunced > as"Aim". Hence, Aim Hrim Klim is equally accepted as Aing Hring Kling. > > Is this correct ? > Kindly guide > > Regards > Nitin > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 Namaste Nitin, Thanks for your question. Swamiji has answered this question extensively in his book "Pronunciation and the Chandi Samputs". In a nutshell, the pronunciation is influenced by region. So in the North India it would most likely be "Aing" while in the South it would "Aim". You will want to choose the pronunciation according to the tradition of your Guru. Jai Maa Nanda , "Nik" <ntngpt wrote: > > Jai Maa, > > I am quite new to this group. I am facing some confusion regarding the > pronunciation of Beej Mantras. I have consulted some pandits and > astrologers who opined that both ways are correct. They say that > pronuncing "Aing" is as useful and correct as if being pronunced > as"Aim". Hence, Aim Hrim Klim is equally accepted as Aing Hring Kling. > > Is this correct ? > Kindly guide > > Regards > Nitin > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 This also has to do with Sanskrit grammar. The correct usage of grammar dictates that the letter m(makara) is pronounced as ng when it is in the middle of the word or conjoins another word. So as per this rule it should be Aing. But this rule is not applicable 1. At the end of a sentence. 2. When the next word starts with a vowel. 3. An independent word. The different interpretation is that a Bija mantra is an independent word and so calls for the above exception. So applying exception no. 3 it is Aim. It is not a matter of pronunciation alone, but also a matter of interpretation of the rules of Sanskrit grammar. Jai MAA !!! , "Nanda" <chandimaakijai wrote: > > > Namaste Nitin, > > Thanks for your question. Swamiji has answered this question extensively > in his book "Pronunciation and the Chandi Samputs". > > In a nutshell, the pronunciation is influenced by region. So in the > North India it would most likely be "Aing" while in the South it would > "Aim". > > You will want to choose the pronunciation according to the tradition of > your Guru. > > Jai Maa > Nanda > > > > > > > , "Nik" <ntngpt@> wrote: > > > > Jai Maa, > > > > I am quite new to this group. I am facing some confusion regarding the > > pronunciation of Beej Mantras. I have consulted some pandits and > > astrologers who opined that both ways are correct. They say that > > pronuncing "Aing" is as useful and correct as if being pronunced > > as"Aim". Hence, Aim Hrim Klim is equally accepted as Aing Hring Kling. > > > > Is this correct ? > > Kindly guide > > > > Regards > > Nitin > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 Jai Maa ! Does that mean that if a beej mantra is to pronounced independently.For eg. just reciting "Aim" is right way. And if it is being used with a formulation ( mantra ) it becomes "Aing" ? ( Om Aing Hring Kling Chamundayai Vicche ) Regards Nitin Sankar Viswanathan <sankarrukku > wrote: This also has to do with Sanskrit grammar. The correct usage of grammar dictates that the letter m(makara) is pronounced as ng when it is in the middle of the word or conjoins another word. So as per this rule it should be Aing. But this rule is not applicable 1. At the end of a sentence. 2. When the next word starts with a vowel. 3. An independent word. The different interpretation is that a Bija mantra is an independent word and so calls for the above exception. So applying exception no. 3 it is Aim. It is not a matter of pronunciation alone, but also a matter of interpretation of the rules of Sanskrit grammar. Jai MAA !!! , "Nanda" <chandimaakijai wrote: > > > Namaste Nitin, > > Thanks for your question. Swamiji has answered this question extensively > in his book "Pronunciation and the Chandi Samputs". > > In a nutshell, the pronunciation is influenced by region. So in the > North India it would most likely be "Aing" while in the South it would > "Aim". > > You will want to choose the pronunciation according to the tradition of > your Guru. > > Jai Maa > Nanda > > > > > > > , "Nik" <ntngpt@> wrote: > > > > Jai Maa, > > > > I am quite new to this group. I am facing some confusion regarding the > > pronunciation of Beej Mantras. I have consulted some pandits and > > astrologers who opined that both ways are correct. They say that > > pronuncing "Aing" is as useful and correct as if being pronunced > > as"Aim". Hence, Aim Hrim Klim is equally accepted as Aing Hring Kling. > > > > Is this correct ? > > Kindly guide > > > > Regards > > Nitin > > > Check out the all-new Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 Nitin, Please don't confuse Sanskrit grammar with Sanskrit pronounciation, which varies from region to region (according to Swamiji), and with the practices of the parampara (the guru lineage), which are independent of both. Find an example to follow, and do what they do. Jai Maa! Chris , Nitin Gupta <ntngpt wrote: > > Jai Maa ! > > Does that mean that if a beej mantra is to pronounced independently.For eg. just reciting "Aim" is right way. And if it is being used with a formulation ( mantra ) it becomes "Aing" ? ( Om Aing Hring Kling Chamundayai Vicche ) > > Regards > Nitin > > Sankar Viswanathan <sankarrukku wrote: > This also has to do with Sanskrit grammar. The correct usage of > grammar dictates that the letter m(makara) is pronounced as ng when it > is in the middle of the word or conjoins another word. > > So as per this rule it should be Aing. > > But this rule is not applicable > > 1. At the end of a sentence. > > 2. When the next word starts with a vowel. > > 3. An independent word. > > The different interpretation is that a Bija mantra is an independent > word and so calls for the above exception. > > So applying exception no. 3 it is Aim. > > It is not a matter of pronunciation alone, but also a matter of > interpretation of the rules of Sanskrit grammar. > > Jai MAA !!! > > , "Nanda" <chandimaakijai@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Nitin, > > > > Thanks for your question. Swamiji has answered this question extensively > > in his book "Pronunciation and the Chandi Samputs". > > > > In a nutshell, the pronunciation is influenced by region. So in the > > North India it would most likely be "Aing" while in the South it would > > "Aim". > > > > You will want to choose the pronunciation according to the tradition of > > your Guru. > > > > Jai Maa > > Nanda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Nik" <ntngpt@> wrote: > > > > > > Jai Maa, > > > > > > I am quite new to this group. I am facing some confusion regarding the > > > pronunciation of Beej Mantras. I have consulted some pandits and > > > astrologers who opined that both ways are correct. They say that > > > pronuncing "Aing" is as useful and correct as if being pronunced > > > as"Aim". Hence, Aim Hrim Klim is equally accepted as Aing Hring Kling. > > > > > > Is this correct ? > > > Kindly guide > > > > > > Regards > > > Nitin > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out the all-new Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 There is a CD of SRI MAA reciting the Navarna Mantra. In case you do not have a Guru you can listen to that and correct your pronunciation. http://www.shreemaa.org/drupal/taxonomy_menu/55/107 Jai MAA !!! , "Chris Kirner" <chriskirner1956 wrote: > > Nitin, > > Please don't confuse Sanskrit grammar with Sanskrit pronounciation, > which varies from region to region (according to Swamiji), and with > the practices of the parampara (the guru lineage), which are > independent of both. Find an example to follow, and do what they do. > > Jai Maa! > Chris > > > > , Nitin Gupta <ntngpt@> wrote: > > > > Jai Maa ! > > > > Does that mean that if a beej mantra is to pronounced > independently.For eg. just reciting "Aim" is right way. And if it is > being used with a formulation ( mantra ) it becomes "Aing" ? ( Om Aing > Hring Kling Chamundayai Vicche ) > > > > Regards > > Nitin > > > > Sankar Viswanathan <sankarrukku@> wrote: > > This also has to do with Sanskrit grammar. The correct > usage of > > grammar dictates that the letter m(makara) is pronounced as ng when it > > is in the middle of the word or conjoins another word. > > > > So as per this rule it should be Aing. > > > > But this rule is not applicable > > > > 1. At the end of a sentence. > > > > 2. When the next word starts with a vowel. > > > > 3. An independent word. > > > > The different interpretation is that a Bija mantra is an independent > > word and so calls for the above exception. > > > > So applying exception no. 3 it is Aim. > > > > It is not a matter of pronunciation alone, but also a matter of > > interpretation of the rules of Sanskrit grammar. > > > > Jai MAA !!! > > > > , "Nanda" <chandimaakijai@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Namaste Nitin, > > > > > > Thanks for your question. Swamiji has answered this question > extensively > > > in his book "Pronunciation and the Chandi Samputs". > > > > > > In a nutshell, the pronunciation is influenced by region. So in the > > > North India it would most likely be "Aing" while in the South it would > > > "Aim". > > > > > > You will want to choose the pronunciation according to the > tradition of > > > your Guru. > > > > > > Jai Maa > > > Nanda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Nik" <ntngpt@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Jai Maa, > > > > > > > > I am quite new to this group. I am facing some confusion > regarding the > > > > pronunciation of Beej Mantras. I have consulted some pandits and > > > > astrologers who opined that both ways are correct. They say that > > > > pronuncing "Aing" is as useful and correct as if being pronunced > > > > as"Aim". Hence, Aim Hrim Klim is equally accepted as Aing Hring > Kling. > > > > > > > > Is this correct ? > > > > Kindly guide > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Nitin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out the all-new Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful > email and get things done faster. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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