Guest guest Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 Dear Family, Namaste! Kashyapa Sutra says that the Ultimate aim in life is victory over death. What does this mean to us? How do we prepare for death? Should we? Please share your thoughts, I eagerly look forward to your insights. Sincerely srini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 Namaste Srini: It may mean that we ultimately come to be unafraid of death or that death becomes for us a transition to another mode of being; rather than an ultimate end. We also put an end to the countless cycles of birth, death, and rebirth. We break free from the trappings of our earthly existence. I think that we should be aware of death, and even meditate on our own deaths. I think this helps with some of our attachments. Blessings, Shankari srini_sadhu <srini_sadhu > wrote: Dear Family, Namaste! Kashyapa Sutra says that the Ultimate aim in life is victory over death. What does this mean to us? How do we prepare for death? Should we? Please share your thoughts, I eagerly look forward to your insights. Sincerely srini Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. $310,000 Mortgage for $999/mo - Calculate new house payment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 Dear Shankari, Namaste! Thank you for your thoughtful response! Sincerely srini , Shankari Kali <shankari_kali wrote: > > Namaste Srini: > > It may mean that we ultimately come to be unafraid of death or that death becomes for us a transition to another mode of being; rather than an ultimate end. We also put an end to the countless cycles of birth, death, and rebirth. We break free from the trappings of our earthly existence. > > I think that we should be aware of death, and even meditate on our own deaths. I think this helps with some of our attachments. > > Blessings, > Shankari > > srini_sadhu <srini_sadhu wrote: Dear Family, > > Namaste! > > Kashyapa Sutra says that the Ultimate aim in life is victory over death. > > What does this mean to us? How do we prepare for death? Should we? > > Please share your thoughts, I eagerly look forward to your insights. > > Sincerely > srini > > > > > > > > Sponsored Link > > Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. $310,000 Mortgage for $999/mo - Calculate new house payment > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 Namaste Srini, Victory over death to me means realizing the true self, the true human potential. There are many forms of death, death of ego, death of attachment, etc. Knowing who we are, our purpose in life, we set a plan to reach that goal. Various steps on the path to that goal help give death to the burden which are not conducive to our soul's development and which cause us to fear death of the physical body. Death can also been seen as a spiritual opportunity, remember earlier this year at the passing of our dear sister Lalita Beloved Shree Maa told us to "Pray for her so she rises to the highest heaven smoothly and ask for her to send her blessings back to us on earth". Lalita was in a good place, she was with a spiritual family, performing seva to Gurus, practicing daily sadhana, and assisting in whatever way possible. Think about the volume of prayers that was offered for that soul, isn't it a woulderful thought? Life and death are just stages in our path to perfect unity with Divinity. Kalia , "srini_sadhu" <srini_sadhu wrote: > > Dear Family, > > Namaste! > > Kashyapa Sutra says that the Ultimate aim in life is victory over death. > > What does this mean to us? How do we prepare for death? Should we? > > Please share your thoughts, I eagerly look forward to your insights. > > Sincerely > srini > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 Namaste srini, Victory over death means, to not be overcome or weakened in our living, by the thought of death, as a fear of the unknown projected into the future. Fear of the unknown is death, embracing the unknown is spiritual life. How we express our fearlessness will be unique to each of us. Someone might prepare for her death every day, like the Dalai Lama does. Someone else might live each day like she is throwing herself into a fire without a thought for tomorrow. How you live is who you are. , "srini_sadhu" <srini_sadhu wrote: > > Dear Family, > > Namaste! > > Kashyapa Sutra says that the Ultimate aim in life is victory over death. > > What does this mean to us? How do we prepare for death? Should we? > > Please share your thoughts, I eagerly look forward to your insights. > > Sincerely > srini > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 Namaste All, What does this mean to us? DEATH? Some teach it is separation from God. We can't be separated from All That Is unless We choose to be (by our own action) Just as the Guru can take away His anger but He can not take away the Gurus. KS 44 & 79. That is why it is best to always choose positive action, moving or non. How do we prepare for death? How do we prepare to go to Our Father, The Creator, To All That Is, If Enlightened We are already joined. We Know Who We Are! So we simply step out of this body & into The Infinite, All that Is. We SHIFT Should we? We should always do our best. Seek to do no harm. Love, Care, Be our True Self. Thank you Shree Maa & Swamiji for showing us how. Thank all the Gurus for all they teach us. And be thankful for eachother. Our company, surport, love and prayers. Looking forward to hearing everyone elses views. Jai Guru Steve Connor <sconnor (AT) austin (DOT) rr.com> wrote: Namaste srini, Victory over death means, to not be overcome or weakened in our living, by the thought of death, as a fear of the unknown projected into the future. Fear of the unknown is death, embracing the unknown is spiritual life. How we express our fearlessness will be unique to each of us. Someone might prepare for her death every day, like the Dalai Lama does. Someone else might live each day like she is throwing herself into a fire without a thought for tomorrow. How you live is who you are. , "srini_sadhu" <srini_sadhu wrote: > > Dear Family, > > Namaste! > > Kashyapa Sutra says that the Ultimate aim in life is victory over death. > > What does this mean to us? How do we prepare for death? Should we? > > Please share your thoughts, I eagerly look forward to your insights. > > Sincerely > srini > Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. $420,000 Mortgage for $1,399/mo - Calculate new house payment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 Namaste Kalia, Srini and all, here's my two cents: You could say that we achieve victory over death by cultivating and mastering the art of life. When we succeed in living every moment as full and perfect, joyfully witnessing the neverending transformations Mother Nature performs, and accepting every manifestation as expressions of Her love, we will not experience death in the way we thought we would before we started out on this path, with love, Henny , "kaliananda_saraswati" <kaliananda_saraswati wrote: > > Namaste Srini, > > Victory over death to me means realizing the true self, the true > human potential. There are many forms of death, death of ego, death > of attachment, etc. Knowing who we are, our purpose in life, we > set a plan to reach that goal. Various steps on the path to that > goal help give death to the burden which are not conducive to our > soul's development and which cause us to fear death of the physical > body. > > Death can also been seen as a spiritual opportunity, remember > earlier this year at the passing of our dear sister Lalita Beloved > Shree Maa told us to "Pray for her so she rises to the highest > heaven smoothly and ask for her to send her blessings back to us on > earth". Lalita was in a good place, she was with a spiritual > family, performing seva to Gurus, practicing daily sadhana, and > assisting in whatever way possible. Think about the volume of > prayers that was offered for that soul, isn't it a woulderful > thought? > > Life and death are just stages in our path to perfect unity with > Divinity. > > Kalia > > , "srini_sadhu" <srini_sadhu@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Family, > > > > Namaste! > > > > Kashyapa Sutra says that the Ultimate aim in life is victory over > death. > > > > What does this mean to us? How do we prepare for death? Should we? > > > > Please share your thoughts, I eagerly look forward to your > insights. > > > > Sincerely > > srini > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 Dear Sriniji, We overcome death, paradoxically, by dying. You have said that yourself by following the question with the other question: how to prepare for death? Every bit of sadhana and every bit of grace is to prepare for the death of the ego-ahamkara-I-consciousness. The ego is not some other entity, it is Me! And I feel it! It won't be easy, but it is the only way. That is why there are so few. That is why they are heros. Mother doesn't lop off the heads of the asuras. It is my head She lops off. That truth alone brings humility; everything else feeds the ego. The upanisad says, "through renunciation alone some few attain Him". Renunciation means lightening the load. The bigger the ego the harder it falls. Only by renouncing (mentally and vitally) every identification with objects and relationships does the ego become thinner and thinner..finally transparent. May we all become ego-anorexics! It is the greatest service to the Guru, to the world, and to ourSelves. Respectfully, Tanmaya , "srini_sadhu" <srini_sadhu wrote: > > Dear Family, > > Namaste! > > Kashyapa Sutra says that the Ultimate aim in life is victory over death. > > What does this mean to us? How do we prepare for death? Should we? > > Please share your thoughts, I eagerly look forward to your insights. > > Sincerely > srini > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2006 Report Share Posted November 23, 2006 Hi-ya Srini, In the first sutra we are born because we are bound by our past karmas;in the second we are bound by our desires;in the third, the ultimate goal is victory over death;in the fourth, we find we can choose how we respond to our desires, producing either more bondage or more freedom. Birth and death are two sides of the same coin. If we accept that the ultimate aim of life is victory over death, it must also include victory over birth. Accepting this creates a nice little arc with these sutras, esp. the first three, with the fourth demonstrating one way to accomplish it. Birth, desire, death, a commentary in brief on the progress of life in the body. For most, death is said to be a painful letting-go of all in life they are attached to, all their favorite toys, all of their loved ones, even themselves, in a way. At death the subtle body is removed from the physical body, and also, it is said, from all of the antakarana (the inner instrument) including the ego, the mind, and intellect (buddhi). All that is left are the karmas with their corresponding desires, no name, no fame, no identity beyond that of an individual awareness. Swamiji has said that the process of finding a suitable body to express the desires of the unborn subtle body can be a frustratingly painful one. Human births are said to be very difficult to obtain. For someone who spent his life on the pursuit of conquest and the fulfillment of sensual pleasures, an animal form will do just as well, will it not? When a body is finally obtained and one is born, all of the memories and experiences of the previous life are gone; wiped from memory. What remains is the ripened karmas, the tendencies we fed the most, the lessons we learned the best. But what kind of family will we get? What new negative tendencies will we inherit that need to be removed or lived with? What will our environment be like? Will it be peaceful; will there be enough? Will I be able to manifest the search for divinity next time? The process of death and birth is filled with uncertainty, and the pain of separation. For the sages, death and birth is said to be like changing clothes. Can you imagine not wanting to change your shirt when it is dirty, because you're so attached to it? The sage knows by experience that she is not the body; there is no loss of memory or knowledge. If she takes birth again, she does so with full knowledge and a glad heart and a desire to serve God. To such a one there is no death, nor is there birth, only the circumstances change. Jai Maa! Chris , "srini_sadhu" <srini_sadhu wrote: > > Dear Family, > > Namaste! > > Kashyapa Sutra says that the Ultimate aim in life is victory over death. > > What does this mean to us? How do we prepare for death? Should we? > > Please share your thoughts, I eagerly look forward to your insights. > > Sincerely > srini > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2006 Report Share Posted November 23, 2006 This is nice Chris. Jai Maa. , "Chris Kirner" <chriskirner1956 wrote: > > Hi-ya Srini, > > In the first sutra we are born because we are bound by our past > karmas;in the second we are bound by our desires;in the third, the > ultimate goal is victory over death;in the fourth, we find we can > choose how we respond to our desires, producing either more bondage or > more freedom. > > Birth and death are two sides of the same coin. If we accept that the > ultimate aim of life is victory over death, it must also include > victory over birth. > > Accepting this creates a nice little arc with these sutras, esp. the > first three, with the fourth demonstrating one way to accomplish it. > Birth, desire, death, a commentary in brief on the progress of life in > the body. > > For most, death is said to be a painful letting-go of all in life they > are attached to, all their favorite toys, all of their loved ones, > even themselves, in a way. > > At death the subtle body is removed from the physical body, and also, > it is said, from all of the antakarana (the inner instrument) > including the ego, the mind, and intellect (buddhi). All that is left > are the karmas with their corresponding desires, no name, no fame, no > identity beyond that of an individual awareness. > > Swamiji has said that the process of finding a suitable body to > express the desires of the unborn subtle body can be a frustratingly > painful one. Human births are said to be very difficult to obtain. For > someone who spent his life on the pursuit of conquest and the > fulfillment of sensual pleasures, an animal form will do just as well, > will it not? > > When a body is finally obtained and one is born, all of the memories > and experiences of the previous life are gone; wiped from memory. What > remains is the ripened karmas, the tendencies we fed the most, the > lessons we learned the best. But what kind of family will we get? What > new negative tendencies will we inherit that need to be removed or > lived with? What will our environment be like? Will it be peaceful; > will there be enough? Will I be able to manifest the search for > divinity next time? > > The process of death and birth is filled with uncertainty, and the > pain of separation. > > For the sages, death and birth is said to be like changing clothes. > Can you imagine not wanting to change your shirt when it is dirty, > because you're so attached to it? The sage knows by experience that > she is not the body; there is no loss of memory or knowledge. If she > takes birth again, she does so with full knowledge and a glad heart > and a desire to serve God. > > To such a one there is no death, nor is there birth, only the > circumstances change. > > Jai Maa! > Chris > > > , "srini_sadhu" <srini_sadhu@> wrote: > > > > Dear Family, > > > > Namaste! > > > > Kashyapa Sutra says that the Ultimate aim in life is victory over death. > > > > What does this mean to us? How do we prepare for death? Should we? > > > > Please share your thoughts, I eagerly look forward to your insights. > > > > Sincerely > > srini > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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