Guest guest Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 shri: Dear shriman Senthil swamin (Adiyane's)This Dog's Pranaams. I do noted this paasuram Periya thirumozhi 8.8.10 which explicitly gathers 10 avatars. if you goto Page 229 of Bhagavad Gita (Ch 4.8)- English Edition by ISKCON Group (Late) Shri Prabhupada swaamin says there are 6 groups of avatars, and each group has more than a bunch of avatars to specify. Let us see what Thenamaam polil Swamin Says !!! Adiyaen - Maaran's Dog (, Nothing but a seshan at HIS Feet) ramanuja, "B.Senthil kumar" <b_senthil2002 wrote: > > Dear BhagavathAs, > Eventhough the avatAram of our emperumAn can not be counted and is > endless, some of the avatArams were repeatedly and in many time was > enjoyed by our Azhwars and AchAryars. Sri P.B.A Swamin while > discussing about the ParasurAma avatAram, for pAsuram in Periya > Thirumozhi 8.8.6 (Thirukannapuram), he mentioned that Lords' > avatAram is countless. But at the vyAkyAnam for 8.8.10 pAsuram, PBA > swamin had quoted that, azhwar wants to conclude the pathigam with > the tenth avatAram of Lord -Kalki- and also used the word > DasAvatAram. > > Similarly Thirumangai Azhwar in that 10th pAsuram had summed up the > avatArs of Lord in the chronological order of DasavatAram only. From > PBA Swamin divyArtha deepikai, Swamy Parasara Bhattar in Sri > Rangaraja Sthavam - Utthara bhAgam also celebrates and compares Lord > Sri RanganAthar with DasAvathAram. > > Eventhough its wellknown fact that, Our Lord avatAram can not be > restricted with 10 ONLY, but this 10 SELECTED avatArs of HIM is > repeatedly enjoyed by our Azhwars, poorvAsiriyars. Here adiyEn wants > to clear that, we can use the word "DasAvatAram by emperumAn". If > not, then why Thirumangai Azhwar uses this ten avatars and dedicate > each pAsuram for each avatAr in Periya Thirumozhi 8.8? If not then > why AchAryar NigamAntha dEsikan dedicated 10 StOtrams for Ten > Avatars - called as DasAvatAra StOtram? > > Eventhough emperumAn had taken many avatArs, the KoormaAvatAram can > not ge forgotten by any - since PirAttiyAr's avatAram from pArkadal. > 2) Sri Varaha AvatAram can not be forgotten by any - since he saved > our Bhoomi PirAttiyAr. > 3) Sri Narasimha AvatAram can not be forgotten by any - since in > this avatAram HE proved that HE can took avatAr for HIS BhaktAs like > PrahlAdan. > 4) Sri Vamana AvatAram can not be forgotten by any - since in this > avatAram HE proved that, HE is Sarvarakshkan not only for bhakthAs > like us, but also for Devars like Indran - "EmperumAn-ImaiyOr > thalaivan." > 5) Sri Rama, Krishna AvatAram can not be forgotten by any. > > adiyEn, > senthil.b > > > ramanuja, "bsundarrajansrivilliputtur" > <bsundarrajansrivilliputtur@> wrote: > > > > shri: > > > > Dear shriman "Thenamaam Polil..." Swamin > > > > Adiyaen's Pranaams. > > > > Thanks for your intervention. indeed i enjoyed your commentary on > > this Avathaar regarding... > > > > Shriman p.b.a swamy also concluded the same point. > > His explanation can be found here: > > > > Reference Page 1099 - Periya thirumozhi - Divyaartha Deepikai > > or explanation of 8.8.6 / Thirukannapuram 86th Paasuram > > > > Adiyaen > > > > - Maaran's Dog > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ramanuja, "Padmanabhan" <aazhwar@> wrote: > > > > > > munivarai idukkiyum -munnEr vaNNanAiyum > > > > > > Sri Nam piLLai's vyAkyanam was clear that > > > -No restrictions can be drawn for EmperumAn's avathAram-s > > > -These avathAram-s are out of volition. > > > > > > Sri Desikan's vyAkyanam further clarifies that > > > -the Lord appears in dvEva, manusha, thriyak sthvarangaL, > vibhava- > > vibhavAnthara,vyUyha/vyUhAnthara. > > > > > > EDu for TiruvAimohhip pAsuram > > > 'nilai varambila pala piRappAi' > > > quotes Sri Bhattar that the Lord's avathAram being saulabyam > > reveals supremacy from time to time and the prime factor is > > rakshagathvam. > > > > > > Then one may ask, what is it this ten avathAr-s and others. > > > > > > Acharya hrdhyam sUthram 'munivarai idukkiyum-mun-nEr vaNNanAyum' > > NO.17 > > > gives answer for this: > > > > > > Though this particular sUthram is brought about by Sri Azhagia > > maNavALap perumAL nAyanAr to bring about the difference between > > sAsthram and thirumanthram, the following aspects are relevant for > > our discussion > > > munivarai idukkiyum > > > the fact that the Lord descends upon rishi-s and spells out > > certain works is stressed here.This is termed as 'AvEsha > avathAram' > > and commences and ends with the particular task. > > > > > > mun-nEr vaNNan > > > The Lord takes upon Himself avathAram-s directly.,For example He > > gave the thriumanthiram at VadaraiASramam. > > > > > > The avathAram-s thus are manifold and endless > > > > > > dasan > > > vanamamalai padmanabhan > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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