Guest guest Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 Namaste, Some recent postings about Descartes have reminded me of two papers by Professor Stephen R.L. Clark (Liverpool University, Philosophy Department) about non-dualism in the European tradition. The first of these papers is called 'Descartes' Debt to Augustine' (published in Michael McGhee, ed., Philosophy, Religion and the Spiritual Life, Cambridge University Press 1992). This first paper describes how Descartes' thought is founded in an old investigation of non-dual truth, whose records go back to the early Christian Saint Augustine (5th century BCE) and further back to Plotinus (3rd century BCE) and the Ancient Greeks (going back to Parmenides in the early 5th century BCE). The second paper is 'How Many Selves Make Me?' (published in David Cockburn, ed., Human Beings, Cambridge University Press 1991). This second paper focuses upon the Ancient Greek concept of a purely witnessing consciousness called 'Nous' and how that pure witness leads to a non-dual self which is the same for everyone. I think that extracts from these papers may be of interest to Advaitins of the Shankara tradition, but the extracts are too long to be given in a single posting. So this posting will present an extract from the first paper, together with a subsequent comment. And an extract from the second paper will be presented similarly in a further posting. Descartes' Debt to Augustine ---------------------------- .... we do not need to go to distant lands or cultures to discover thinkers strongly inclined to doubt the seriousness or the reality of our everyday existence and still devoted to the pursuit of truth.... our own Western tradition should have revealed as much to us. 'Really we know nothing, for truth is in the depths' [Democritos 68 B 117]. The world of our everyday experience, structured as it is by goals and projects of an illusory kind, does not provide us with a sure foundation. We are like children building sand-castles to be washed away [Gregory of Nyssa], or dreamers. 'For those who've woken up there is one common world; each sleeper's turned aside to a private one' [Heracleitos 22 B 89] -- no less private and delusory because imagined to be shared with others of our greedy, proud and frightened sort. And what solution can be found? 'We are to stop our ears and convert our vision and our other senses inwards upon the Self' [Maximus 11.10b]. That is why, so Philo of Alexandria tells us, the High Priest must strip off the soul's tunic of opinion and imagery to enter the Holy of Holies (Legum Allegoriae 2.56). This was Descartes' project, and his hope, explicitly, was that he might thereby secure as knowledge what piety already had endorsed.... What, on my account, did Descartes argue? (a) The unexamined world we casually inhabit, of lords, priests and commoners, pets and pests and prey and creepy-crawly things, the world of fame and fortune, triumph and adversity, is of the nature of a dream. Nothing that we casually believe, not even the deliverances of contemporary science or contemporary piety, is self-evidently true. Our confidence in them, so long as it rests on unexamined assumptions, is dreamlike in its intensity. (b) Driving himself downward to his foundations, Descartes concluded that the very act of doubting all things dubitable revealed a Self. The revelation was, so to speak, an existential one, rather than the conclusion of a formal argument. It was not so much that Descartes (or Augustine) identified a certain falsehood in the thought that there was no thought, and trusted to the thesis that the thoughts required a thinker, but that wondering woke him up. "Let the mind know itself and not seek itself as if it were absent; let it fix the attention of its will, by which it formerly wandered over many things, upon itself, and think of itself. So it will see that there never was a time when it did not love itself, and never a time when it did not know itself. [Augustine, The Trinity, 10.8,11]" That [truly] waking self was not self-evidently identical with Descartes: its being lay in thinking (or as a later, Irish, Cartesian [berkeley] said, in perceiving, willing, acting). It must always know itself; 'where could my heart flee from my heart? Where could I flee from my own self? [Augustine, Confessions 4.7]'... © The Self revealed is not identical with anything observable, and so is incorporeal. We recognize ourselves as being, not by noticing something that might actually or conceivably be absent, something that is -- as it were -- 'reflected' in the inner eye, but 'really'. 'The known I is simply identical with the and equal to the knowing mind itself. [F.M. Sladecsek, on Augustine]' To suppose otherwise -- to think that we know only what is 'reflected' as an image in our sensorium would deny us any chance of knowing ourselves to be such a spiritual mirror. Accordingly, I must suppose that I know myself without having, or needing, any 'idea' that is identically me. Since the mind does know itself, and does so in a way that no corporeal entity could, it cannot be a body. (d) Having discovered the Self, or his self, must the Cartesian be doomed to solipsism [the position that only the personal self is known to exist]? That has been one result, no doubt, and one sometimes blamed on Augustine, 'whose interest was not in the cosmos but in psychological introspection and the question of personal guilt and salvation. He, more than any other Western figure, influenced the Christian West to be individualistic' [M. Fox, The Coming of the Cosmic Christ]. I think the charge unjust. At the least, though perhaps it was true of Descartes, as it was of Berkeley and the young Newman, that there were for him 'two and two only absolute and luminously self-evident beings, [him]self and [his] Creator' [J.J. Newman, in Apologia Pro Vita Sua, M.J. Svaglic (ed.)]. The very act of doubting revealed the Self as sometimes, or as possibly, mistaken. What Descartes realized was that this revealed a truth: namely, that there was indeed a Truth by which his thought was measured. Maybe nothing that I ordinarily suppose is true: so be it, but in that case there is still a Truth, unknown to me, by comparison with which my thought is false. My thought is imperfect, shifting, possibly self-contradictory, finite: but it is all these things because there is a perfect, unchangeable, coherent, infinite reality, *and I already know that it is so*. There could be no doubt, no error, unless there were a Real, nor could we entertain such doubt or recognize the notion of such error unless the image of the Real were stamped within our hearts. As Plato pointed out long before, I must already know what the True is if I am even to notice that my thought might not be true Plato, Meno 80e ff).... (e) Of the Truth I only know it cannot be surpassed (as my thought can be), and cannot be denied, or thought not to exist. Even to suggest that it might not exist (that it might not be true that there is such a thing as Truth) is indeed to talk nonsense.... The presence of Being to us is revealed in our discovery that our thought stands under judgement, that our thought is often confused and self-contradictory, but yearns to repossess that which it still remembers. I have an image of Truth (and without it could not even entertain the thought that I am often wrong, that I am not the Truth): it is that entity of which Boethius spoke, 'the whole, simultaneous and perfect possession of boundless life' [boethius, Tractates and Consolation of Philosophy 5.6.9]. Because I have that image I both can and must bring my inquiries before it, and accept such clear and distinct ideas as look most like it, always remembering that nothing in the world of my experience or yours is ever quite the Truth (for it might not be true, whereas the Truth itself is always true). "I had promised to show you, if you recall, that there is something higher than our mind and reason. There you have it -- truth itself! Embrace it if you can and enjoy it" [Augustine, De Libero Arbitrio 2.13.35].... (f) Descartes therefore believed that there was, that there must be, a way established for us to approach the Truth of which we already know the elements. 'If any other than you were to inspire me', said Augustine to his God, 'I do not believe that my words would be true, for you are the Truth, whereas every man is a liar, and for this reason he who utters falsehood is only uttering what is natural to him' [Augustine, Confessions 13.25].... Comments from an Advaita Vedanta perspective ----------- As Stephen Clark points out, modern academics have often been suspicious of reflective enquiry, as exemplified by Descartes and Augustine. Such an enquiry has often been dismissed as a merely 'psychological introspection', which ends up with the 'solipsism' of a mind-obsessed identity, caught up in personal preoccupations and thus isolated from an external world. Accordingly, a question is raised. Is introspection merely personal? By asking questions that reflect back into their own thinking and their own assumptions, can we clarify our knowing of what is impersonally true and real, in the personal perceptions, thoughts and feelings through which each person experiences the world? In short, by looking back into our differing bodies and our varied minds, can we approach an impersonal truth that is independent of our personal and doubtful faculties? This is the question Descartes asked. It is, of course, a question that had long been asked, by his predecessors in the Christian, Roman and Greek traditions. But Descartes asks the question analytically, in the context of a new spirit that has started to encourage an independent-minded questioning into our individuality. Descartes' analysis starts out with body, which he calls 'res extensa' or an 'extended thing'. A body is extended into different parts, which are located differently in space. Each body is a structure, which is made up from co-existing parts. Each part exists in its own place, from where it interacts with other parts. Through these interactions, the parts of a body are related to each other. And different bodies are related together into larger bodies, in a world of structured space. This world of space is essentially divided and mechanical. It is divided into different locations. And it's made up like a machine, of parts that act upon each other. Here, action is from one body to another or (within a body) from one part to another. This kind of action is caused by a mechanical energy, which is exerted divisibly, from various different bodies and their various different parts. In this divided world, it's clearly insufficient for a body to look back into itself. For each body is a driven part of world, corruptible by forces from outside. The body's perceptions are thus partial and liable to make mistakes, so that Descartes is forced to look for truer knowledge in the mind. In his examination of the mind, Descartes speaks of it as 'res cogitans' or a 'thinking thing'. And he points out that while the body is essentially divisible and corruptible, the mind has an essential nature which is indivisible and incorruptible (see his Meditations, Synopsis 2). Here, he identifies the mind's essential nature as just that which it cannot rightly deny or doubt about itself, because that nature is essentially required in each doubt about the divisible and corruptible appearances of body and the body's world. But how does Descartes know that essential nature of the mind? He speaks of that knowing as a 'prima cognitio' or a 'first knowledge' of which he is completely assured, because its apprehension is so clear and distinct, beyond all possibility of doubt (3rd Meditation, 2). But having thus reflected back to that 'first knowledge', he is confronted by a problem. He has to admit that the thinking of his mind is afflicted by conflict and confusion, so that it fails all too often to be clear and distinct -- in its understanding of the appearances that are presented to it, through its perceptions and conceptions of a structured world. The thinking of the mind is accordingly imperfect. It is, as the word 'cogitans' implies, a 'co-agitation' that essentially disturbs the mind, along with the agitation of what is perceived and conceived to be a conflicted and a changing world. To address this imperfection, Descartes admits that his mind is an imperfectly thinking thing, which needs the support of a perfect being to correct its misapprehensions. Accordingly, the thinking mind is identified as an imperfect self, which must turn inward to the perfect being that is worshipped by the name of 'God'. >From an Advaita Vedanta perspective, Descartes has stopped a little short, in his reasoning analysis. He is still caught in a false identity, which confuses a truly knowing self with an imperfectly thinking mind. The thinking of the mind is not quite the same as the knowing of true self. A little more analysis is needed, in order to distinguish knowing from the stream of thoughts that come and go in mind. In the end, knowing is that consciousness which shines by its own light. It is that shining presence which is always there, in everyone's experience, as states of mind replace each other in the course of time. It's only knowing that can be self-luminous, not any thinking in the mind. The thinking is a changing act, producing a succession of replacing appearances. In this experience of our minds, there is no structured space, made up of parts that co-exist. There's only changing process in the course of time, whose passing states cannot be present together and cannot therefore act upon on each other. In this process of our minds, all action must arise from underlying consciousness, which carries on beneath the change of mental states. As actions rise into perceived or thought or felt appearances, they each express the consciousness from where they originate. The energy of that expression is alive. It is a living energy which does not act mechanically, from any object in the world. It acts biologically, from underlying consciousness, as it is thrown up from the knowing subject into every object that becomes perceived or thought or felt in anyone's experience. Here, the word 'subject' means 'under (sub-) the throw (-ject)'. And the word 'object' means 'against (ob-) the throw (-ject)'. In this sense, the objects of the world are what the living energy gets thrown against, so that the energy becomes reflected back into the consciousness it has expressed. Most of the old sciences were founded on this biological conception of a living energy. Sadly, Descartes rather ignored it, in favour of a predominantly mechanical conception of the world. And after Descartes, a perverse interpretation of his thought has been taken to promote the mechanical approach -- at the cost of a deeper, biological approach through which the old sciences (including the humanities) have long been studied and explored. To me, this interpretation of Descartes is perverse in the sense that it goes against his basic aim, which was to explore the depth of ancient European learning in a way that accords with modern, independent-minded questioning. Some more of the depth in that old European learning is addressed in Stephen Clark's second article, which will be the subject of a further posting. Ananda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 advaitin, Ananda Wood <awood wrote: > > In this process of our minds, all action must arise from underlying > consciousness, which carries on beneath the change of mental states. > As actions rise into perceived or thought or felt appearances, they > each express the consciousness from where they originate. > > The energy of that expression is alive. It is a living energy which > does not act mechanically, from any object in the world. It acts > biologically, from underlying consciousness, as it is thrown up from > the knowing subject into every object that becomes perceived or > thought or felt in anyone's experience. > > Here, the word 'subject' means 'under (sub-) the throw (-ject)'. And > the word 'object' means 'against (ob-) the throw (-ject)'. In this > sense, the objects of the world are what the living energy gets > thrown against, so that the energy becomes reflected back into the > consciousness it has expressed. Namaste Ananda ji, Thanks for that very well articulated and truly meaningful post. Before you come up with the next one, shall i express my thinking on the above portion of your post? I seem to concur with the thoughts you have laid out above. As i understand, in the Vedantic method of 'explaining' the objective world and the method of 'returning the seeker to his source', there is a clear role for the above thoughts that you have expressed. I see it like this: In the Kathopanishad mantra 'parAnchi khAni..' (i think you dilated on this mantra some time ago), it is first shown that the senses are 'damned' to be outward-turned, to the objectifying mode. When this happens, Pure Consciousness expresses Itself as 'energy'. As a result of this objectification and interaction of the 'experiencer' and the 'experienced' within that world of objectivity, there arises a variety of experiences, put in one word as 'samsara'. The Upanishad gives the remedy in that very mantra itself. The 'daring' aspirant, determined to 'return' to the Source, Pure Consciousness without a second (that is, without the 'dissipation' of PC into 'energy') puts in great effort to turn away from the objectified world and realign himself with the PC. When this is accomplished, the 'energy' lost outside is recouped and ploughed back to the PC as it were, and he succeeds in freeing himself from samsara. I think this is the basic theme, nay, the method of the Kundalini Yoga as well. As they explain, the 'chakras' starting from the 'mUlAdhAra', the lowest, upto the 'AjnA', the highest in the 'outward' objectified world, signify the energy. When by proper sadhana an aspirant succeeds in directing the energy from the lowest to the Supreme sahasrAra by crossing even the 'aajnaa', he is freed from samsara. They call it `the re-uniting of the Shakti with Shiva'. In Vedanta it is the `negation' of the objective world and realizing the Pure Consciousness alone to be the remaining Real. Even in the sadhana where Bhakti is predominant, this basic theme is the keynote. Since everyone is turned outside through the apparatus of the body, your characterizing the interaction as biological is apt, i think. Just what occurred to me on seeing your post. With warm regards, subbu Om Tat Sat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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