Guest guest Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 Dear , visti, A few doubts exist in analysis of prasna. I posted but it escaped your valued attention. May I repost with slight modification? 1. Rah is in Aquarius. Saturn is in Cancer. If in prasna udaya lagan is Aquarius , what inference about genuineness of Prasna should be drawn. 2. In disease prasna Usually it is some relative who is asking the question.. It is seldom that Patient makes approach. My question is will trisphuta apply for udaya lagna irrespective of relationship denoting patient. 3. Say MY son asked a question, I know as father his is honest and serious. But Prasna Navamsa has not fulfilled trine, opposite and sign of lord rasi condition well, I can recast prasna another time but what to do when client is sitting before you for getting the answer. How to handle the situation, any hint? (Of course I have managed Situation by resorting to KP In some cases.) I wish to know your opinion based on actual experience or clear understanding to adopt the right way in SJC parampara. Hope you will oblige. Another point, suddenly I am seeing many cases appearing related to balarishta, to see I am resorting to Pataki Arista and Tripataki chakra. As taught by Prajpatya das and Devki -Nnandan singh in classical works like Panch- swara and Jyotish Ratnakar. My way is little crude, as you know I have learned from Books. I had once seen you applying Patki chakra to a case of missing boy on group.. I heard you speaking at Delhi on Kaalchakra Gochara where. You exposed us to movement of Yogni based on nakshatra position of SUN and MOON and You used Yama concept. As SJC guru I am sure YOU are acquainted with this Tripatiki chakra application. If there is permission it is requested that this pious knowledge of Parampra be also taught. With kind regards. RC Srivastava Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Srivastava, Namaskar. Comments below to your questions. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda.com swami wrote: > > Dear , visti, > > A few doubts exist in analysis of prasna. I posted but it escaped your > valued attention. May I repost with slight modification? > > > > 1. Rah is in Aquarius. Saturn is in Cancer. If in prasna udaya > lagan is Aquarius , what inference about genuineness of Prasna > should be drawn. > This also depends on the purpose of the prasna. For disease Prasna Saturn in lagna is perfectly fine, but would limit the prasna to only one question. > > 1. > > > 2. In disease prasna Usually it is some relative who is asking the > question. It is seldom that Patient makes approach. My question > is will trisphuta apply for udaya lagna irrespective of > relationship denoting patient. > To my knowledge, yes. > > 1. > > > 2. Say MY son asked a question, I know as father his is honest and > serious. But Prasna Navamsa has not fulfilled trine, opposite > and sign of lord rasi condition well, I can recast prasna > another time but what to do when client is sitting before you > for getting the answer. How to handle the situation, any hint? > Well, if say a persons son comes to ask the question for thieir mother, then the fourth house (being the mother) should be treated as lagna in navamsa to reckon the lagna. > > 1. > > > (Of course I have managed Situation by resorting to KP In some cases.) > I wish to know your opinion based on actual experience or clear > understanding to adopt the right way in SJC parampara. Hope you will > oblige. > > Another point, suddenly I am seeing many cases appearing related to > balarishta, to see I am resorting to Pataki Arista and Tripataki > chakra. As taught by Prajpatya das and Devki --Nnandan singh in > classical works like Panch- swara and Jyotish Ratnakar. My way is > little crude, as you know I have learned from Books. > I was taught the Pataki chakra, but only vaguely, yet not the Tripataki chakra - thanx for the reference though. Here the chakra is drawn and the aspects have to be sought in the horoscope on the lagna and moon. Incase of Balarishta we must pay close attention to the Moon, and the numerological years of the planets aspecting will tell which age the child may face danger. > > I had once seen you applying Patki chakra to a case of missing boy on > group. I heard you speaking at Delhi on Kaalchakra Gochara where. You > exposed us to movement of Yogni > > based on nakshatra position of SUN and MOON and You used Yama concept. > > As SJC guru I am sure YOU are acquainted with this Tripatiki chakra > application. If there is permission it is requested that this pious > knowledge of Parampra be also taught. > > With kind regards. > > RC Srivastava > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 Namaskar Dear Guruji, Why Sani in lagna reduces prasna to one question? Regards Rafal Gendarz , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > Dear Srivastava, Namaskar. > Comments below to your questions. > Yours sincerely, > > Visti Larsen > Email: visti > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > > > > swami wrote: > > > > Dear , visti, > > > > A few doubts exist in analysis of prasna. I posted but it escaped your > > valued attention. May I repost with slight modification? > > > > > > > > 1. Rah is in Aquarius. Saturn is in Cancer. If in prasna udaya > > lagan is Aquarius , what inference about genuineness of Prasna > > should be drawn. > > > This also depends on the purpose of the prasna. For disease Prasna > Saturn in lagna is perfectly fine, but would limit the prasna to only > one question. > > > > 1. > > > > > > 2. In disease prasna Usually it is some relative who is asking the > > question. It is seldom that Patient makes approach. My question > > is will trisphuta apply for udaya lagna irrespective of > > relationship denoting patient. > > > To my knowledge, yes. > > > > 1. > > > > > > 2. Say MY son asked a question, I know as father his is honest and > > serious. But Prasna Navamsa has not fulfilled trine, opposite > > and sign of lord rasi condition well, I can recast prasna > > another time but what to do when client is sitting before you > > for getting the answer. How to handle the situation, any hint? > > > Well, if say a persons son comes to ask the question for thieir mother, > then the fourth house (being the mother) should be treated as lagna in > navamsa to reckon the lagna. > > > > 1. > > > > > > (Of course I have managed Situation by resorting to KP In some cases.) > > I wish to know your opinion based on actual experience or clear > > understanding to adopt the right way in SJC parampara. Hope you will > > oblige. > > > > Another point, suddenly I am seeing many cases appearing related to > > balarishta, to see I am resorting to Pataki Arista and Tripataki > > chakra. As taught by Prajpatya das and Devki --Nnandan singh in > > classical works like Panch- swara and Jyotish Ratnakar. My way is > > little crude, as you know I have learned from Books. > > > I was taught the Pataki chakra, but only vaguely, yet not the Tripataki > chakra - thanx for the reference though. Here the chakra is drawn and > the aspects have to be sought in the horoscope on the lagna and moon. > Incase of Balarishta we must pay close attention to the Moon, and the > numerological years of the planets aspecting will tell which age the > child may face danger. > > > > I had once seen you applying Patki chakra to a case of missing boy on > > group. I heard you speaking at Delhi on Kaalchakra Gochara where. You > > exposed us to movement of Yogni > > > > based on nakshatra position of SUN and MOON and You used Yama concept. > > > > As SJC guru I am sure YOU are acquainted with this Tripatiki chakra > > application. If there is permission it is requested that this pious > > knowledge of Parampra be also taught. > > > > With kind regards. > > > > RC Srivastava > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Because already after the first question the sattva guna has fallen completely. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda.com Rafal wrote: > > Namaskar > Dear Guruji, > Why Sani in lagna reduces prasna to one question? > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > > > <%40>, Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > Dear Srivastava, Namaskar. > > Comments below to your questions. > > Yours sincerely, > > > > Visti Larsen > > Email: visti > > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > > > > > swami wrote: > > > > > > Dear , visti, > > > > > > A few doubts exist in analysis of prasna. I posted but it > escaped your > > > valued attention. May I repost with slight modification? > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Rah is in Aquarius. Saturn is in Cancer. If in prasna udaya > > > lagan is Aquarius , what inference about genuineness of > Prasna > > > should be drawn. > > > > > This also depends on the purpose of the prasna. For disease Prasna > > Saturn in lagna is perfectly fine, but would limit the prasna to > only > > one question. > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > 2. In disease prasna Usually it is some relative who is > asking the > > > question. It is seldom that Patient makes approach. My > question > > > is will trisphuta apply for udaya lagna irrespective of > > > relationship denoting patient. > > > > > To my knowledge, yes. > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > 2. Say MY son asked a question, I know as father his is > honest and > > > serious. But Prasna Navamsa has not fulfilled trine, > opposite > > > and sign of lord rasi condition well, I can recast prasna > > > another time but what to do when client is sitting before > you > > > for getting the answer. How to handle the situation, any > hint? > > > > > Well, if say a persons son comes to ask the question for thieir > mother, > > then the fourth house (being the mother) should be treated as > lagna in > > navamsa to reckon the lagna. > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > (Of course I have managed Situation by resorting to KP In some > cases.) > > > I wish to know your opinion based on actual experience or clear > > > understanding to adopt the right way in SJC parampara. Hope you > will > > > oblige. > > > > > > Another point, suddenly I am seeing many cases appearing related > to > > > balarishta, to see I am resorting to Pataki Arista and > Tripataki > > > chakra. As taught by Prajpatya das and Devki --Nnandan singh > in > > > classical works like Panch- swara and Jyotish Ratnakar. My way > is > > > little crude, as you know I have learned from Books. > > > > > I was taught the Pataki chakra, but only vaguely, yet not the > Tripataki > > chakra - thanx for the reference though. Here the chakra is drawn > and > > the aspects have to be sought in the horoscope on the lagna and > moon. > > Incase of Balarishta we must pay close attention to the Moon, and > the > > numerological years of the planets aspecting will tell which age > the > > child may face danger. > > > > > > I had once seen you applying Patki chakra to a case of missing > boy on > > > group. I heard you speaking at Delhi on Kaalchakra Gochara > where. You > > > exposed us to movement of Yogni > > > > > > based on nakshatra position of SUN and MOON and You used Yama > concept. > > > > > > As SJC guru I am sure YOU are acquainted with this Tripatiki > chakra > > > application. If there is permission it is requested that this > pious > > > knowledge of Parampra be also taught. > > > > > > With kind regards. > > > > > > RC Srivastava > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 hraum namah adityaya Dear Guruji, According to Sanjay Ji london-lecture we shouldnt answer even at the first one because the person lies (sani). So why to start,Am I right? ps. im seein now your last points with charts (venus) and yes every new upadesa should be checked with three charts at least for proper convinction and digestion. Thank You! Regards Rafal Gendarz , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > Because already after the first question the sattva guna has fallen > completely. > Yours sincerely, > > Visti Larsen > Email: visti > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > > > > Rafal wrote: > > > > Namaskar > > Dear Guruji, > > Why Sani in lagna reduces prasna to one question? > > Regards > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > <%40>, Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > Dear Srivastava, Namaskar. > > > Comments below to your questions. > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > Email: visti@ > > > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > > <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > swami wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear , visti, > > > > > > > > A few doubts exist in analysis of prasna. I posted but it > > escaped your > > > > valued attention. May I repost with slight modification? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Rah is in Aquarius. Saturn is in Cancer. If in prasna udaya > > > > lagan is Aquarius , what inference about genuineness of > > Prasna > > > > should be drawn. > > > > > > > This also depends on the purpose of the prasna. For disease Prasna > > > Saturn in lagna is perfectly fine, but would limit the prasna to > > only > > > one question. > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. In disease prasna Usually it is some relative who is > > asking the > > > > question. It is seldom that Patient makes approach. My > > question > > > > is will trisphuta apply for udaya lagna irrespective of > > > > relationship denoting patient. > > > > > > > To my knowledge, yes. > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Say MY son asked a question, I know as father his is > > honest and > > > > serious. But Prasna Navamsa has not fulfilled trine, > > opposite > > > > and sign of lord rasi condition well, I can recast prasna > > > > another time but what to do when client is sitting before > > you > > > > for getting the answer. How to handle the situation, any > > hint? > > > > > > > Well, if say a persons son comes to ask the question for thieir > > mother, > > > then the fourth house (being the mother) should be treated as > > lagna in > > > navamsa to reckon the lagna. > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > (Of course I have managed Situation by resorting to KP In some > > cases.) > > > > I wish to know your opinion based on actual experience or clear > > > > understanding to adopt the right way in SJC parampara. Hope you > > will > > > > oblige. > > > > > > > > Another point, suddenly I am seeing many cases appearing related > > to > > > > balarishta, to see I am resorting to Pataki Arista and > > Tripataki > > > > chakra. As taught by Prajpatya das and Devki --Nnandan singh > > in > > > > classical works like Panch- swara and Jyotish Ratnakar. My way > > is > > > > little crude, as you know I have learned from Books. > > > > > > > I was taught the Pataki chakra, but only vaguely, yet not the > > Tripataki > > > chakra - thanx for the reference though. Here the chakra is drawn > > and > > > the aspects have to be sought in the horoscope on the lagna and > > moon. > > > Incase of Balarishta we must pay close attention to the Moon, and > > the > > > numerological years of the planets aspecting will tell which age > > the > > > child may face danger. > > > > > > > > I had once seen you applying Patki chakra to a case of missing > > boy on > > > > group. I heard you speaking at Delhi on Kaalchakra Gochara > > where. You > > > > exposed us to movement of Yogni > > > > > > > > based on nakshatra position of SUN and MOON and You used Yama > > concept. > > > > > > > > As SJC guru I am sure YOU are acquainted with this Tripatiki > > chakra > > > > application. If there is permission it is requested that this > > pious > > > > knowledge of Parampra be also taught. > > > > > > > > With kind regards. > > > > > > > > RC Srivastava > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Rafal, Namaskar. But what if the person is speaking of health and longevity - Ayus Karaka Saturn. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda.com Rafal wrote: > > hraum namah adityaya > Dear Guruji, > > According to Sanjay Ji london-lecture we shouldnt answer even at the > first one because the person lies (sani). So why to start,Am I right? > > ps. im seein now your last points with charts (venus) and yes every > new upadesa should be checked with three charts at least for proper > convinction and digestion. Thank You! > > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > > > <%40>, Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > Because already after the first question the sattva guna has > fallen > > completely. > > Yours sincerely, > > > > Visti Larsen > > Email: visti > > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > > > > > Rafal wrote: > > > > > > Namaskar > > > Dear Guruji, > > > Why Sani in lagna reduces prasna to one question? > > > Regards > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Visti Larsen <visti@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > > Dear Srivastava, Namaskar. > > > > Comments below to your questions. > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > Email: visti@ > > > > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > swami wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear , visti, > > > > > > > > > > A few doubts exist in analysis of prasna. I posted but it > > > escaped your > > > > > valued attention. May I repost with slight modification? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Rah is in Aquarius. Saturn is in Cancer. If in prasna > udaya > > > > > lagan is Aquarius , what inference about genuineness of > > > Prasna > > > > > should be drawn. > > > > > > > > > This also depends on the purpose of the prasna. For disease > Prasna > > > > Saturn in lagna is perfectly fine, but would limit the prasna > to > > > only > > > > one question. > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. In disease prasna Usually it is some relative who is > > > asking the > > > > > question. It is seldom that Patient makes approach. My > > > question > > > > > is will trisphuta apply for udaya lagna irrespective of > > > > > relationship denoting patient. > > > > > > > > > To my knowledge, yes. > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Say MY son asked a question, I know as father his is > > > honest and > > > > > serious. But Prasna Navamsa has not fulfilled trine, > > > opposite > > > > > and sign of lord rasi condition well, I can recast prasna > > > > > another time but what to do when client is sitting before > > > you > > > > > for getting the answer. How to handle the situation, any > > > hint? > > > > > > > > > Well, if say a persons son comes to ask the question for thieir > > > mother, > > > > then the fourth house (being the mother) should be treated as > > > lagna in > > > > navamsa to reckon the lagna. > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Of course I have managed Situation by resorting to KP In > some > > > cases.) > > > > > I wish to know your opinion based on actual experience or > clear > > > > > understanding to adopt the right way in SJC parampara. Hope > you > > > will > > > > > oblige. > > > > > > > > > > Another point, suddenly I am seeing many cases appearing > related > > > to > > > > > balarishta, to see I am resorting to Pataki Arista and > > > Tripataki > > > > > chakra. As taught by Prajpatya das and Devki --Nnandan singh > > > in > > > > > classical works like Panch- swara and Jyotish Ratnakar. My > way > > > is > > > > > little crude, as you know I have learned from Books. > > > > > > > > > I was taught the Pataki chakra, but only vaguely, yet not the > > > Tripataki > > > > chakra - thanx for the reference though. Here the chakra is > drawn > > > and > > > > the aspects have to be sought in the horoscope on the lagna and > > > moon. > > > > Incase of Balarishta we must pay close attention to the Moon, > and > > > the > > > > numerological years of the planets aspecting will tell which > age > > > the > > > > child may face danger. > > > > > > > > > > I had once seen you applying Patki chakra to a case of > missing > > > boy on > > > > > group. I heard you speaking at Delhi on Kaalchakra Gochara > > > where. You > > > > > exposed us to movement of Yogni > > > > > > > > > > based on nakshatra position of SUN and MOON and You used Yama > > > concept. > > > > > > > > > > As SJC guru I am sure YOU are acquainted with this Tripatiki > > > chakra > > > > > application. If there is permission it is requested that this > > > pious > > > > > knowledge of Parampra be also taught. > > > > > > > > > > With kind regards. > > > > > > > > > > RC Srivastava > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 Regarding to Prashna, this is teh question that always bothered me. In order to actually draw a precise chart, it is important to determined the time when the question was asked. But when indeed actually the thought about a certain matter arose, no one is able to specify. Then how we can be sure that the Prasna chart actually represent the Fate of certain matter? Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Because already after the first question the sattva guna has fallen completely. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda.com Rafal wrote: Namaskar Dear Guruji, Why Sani in lagna reduces prasna to one question? Regards Rafal Gendarz , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > Dear Srivastava, Namaskar. > Comments below to your questions. > Yours sincerely, > > Visti Larsen > Email: visti > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > > > > swami wrote: > > > > Dear , visti, > > > > A few doubts exist in analysis of prasna. I posted but it escaped your > > valued attention. May I repost with slight modification? > > > > > > > > 1. Rah is in Aquarius. Saturn is in Cancer. If in prasna udaya > > lagan is Aquarius , what inference about genuineness of Prasna > > should be drawn. > > > This also depends on the purpose of the prasna. For disease Prasna > Saturn in lagna is perfectly fine, but would limit the prasna to only > one question. > > > > 1. > > > > > > 2. In disease prasna Usually it is some relative who is asking the > > question. It is seldom that Patient makes approach. My question > > is will trisphuta apply for udaya lagna irrespective of > > relationship denoting patient. > > > To my knowledge, yes. > > > > 1. > > > > > > 2. Say MY son asked a question, I know as father his is honest and > > serious. But Prasna Navamsa has not fulfilled trine, opposite > > and sign of lord rasi condition well, I can recast prasna > > another time but what to do when client is sitting before you > > for getting the answer. How to handle the situation, any hint? > > > Well, if say a persons son comes to ask the question for thieir mother, > then the fourth house (being the mother) should be treated as lagna in > navamsa to reckon the lagna. > > > > 1. > > > > > > (Of course I have managed Situation by resorting to KP In some cases.) > > I wish to know your opinion based on actual experience or clear > > understanding to adopt the right way in SJC parampara. Hope you will > > oblige. > > > > Another point, suddenly I am seeing many cases appearing related to > > balarishta, to see I am resorting to Pataki Arista and Tripataki > > chakra. As taught by Prajpatya das and Devki --Nnandan singh in > > classical works like Panch- swara and Jyotish Ratnakar. My way is > > little crude, as you know I have learned from Books. > > > I was taught the Pataki chakra, but only vaguely, yet not the Tripataki > chakra - thanx for the reference though. Here the chakra is drawn and > the aspects have to be sought in the horoscope on the lagna and moon. > Incase of Balarishta we must pay close attention to the Moon, and the > numerological years of the planets aspecting will tell which age the > child may face danger. > > > > I had once seen you applying Patki chakra to a case of missing boy on > > group. I heard you speaking at Delhi on Kaalchakra Gochara where. You > > exposed us to movement of Yogni > > > > based on nakshatra position of SUN and MOON and You used Yama concept. > > > > As SJC guru I am sure YOU are acquainted with this Tripatiki chakra > > application. If there is permission it is requested that this pious > > knowledge of Parampra be also taught. > > > > With kind regards. > > > > RC Srivastava > > > > > Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 hraum namah adityaya Dear Guruji, Then offcourse it can give positive answer if other factors shows good motivation, but still Lagna (jupiter) is Lagna and shows satya, if shani is there in prasna i suspect the bad motivation - lies. Question raised seems focused in al-point. What do You think? Regards Rafal Gendarz , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > But what if the person is speaking of health and longevity - Ayus Karaka > Saturn. > Yours sincerely, > > Visti Larsen > Email: visti > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > > > > Rafal wrote: > > > > hraum namah adityaya > > Dear Guruji, > > > > According to Sanjay Ji london-lecture we shouldnt answer even at the > > first one because the person lies (sani). So why to start,Am I right? > > > > ps. im seein now your last points with charts (venus) and yes every > > new upadesa should be checked with three charts at least for proper > > convinction and digestion. Thank You! > > > > Regards > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > <%40>, Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > > Because already after the first question the sattva guna has > > fallen > > > completely. > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > Email: visti@ > > > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > > <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaskar > > > > Dear Guruji, > > > > Why Sani in lagna reduces prasna to one question? > > > > Regards > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Visti Larsen <visti@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > > > Dear Srivastava, Namaskar. > > > > > Comments below to your questions. > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > Email: visti@ > > > > > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > > > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > swami wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear , visti, > > > > > > > > > > > > A few doubts exist in analysis of prasna. I posted but it > > > > escaped your > > > > > > valued attention. May I repost with slight modification? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Rah is in Aquarius. Saturn is in Cancer. If in prasna > > udaya > > > > > > lagan is Aquarius , what inference about genuineness of > > > > Prasna > > > > > > should be drawn. > > > > > > > > > > > This also depends on the purpose of the prasna. For disease > > Prasna > > > > > Saturn in lagna is perfectly fine, but would limit the prasna > > to > > > > only > > > > > one question. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. In disease prasna Usually it is some relative who is > > > > asking the > > > > > > question. It is seldom that Patient makes approach. My > > > > question > > > > > > is will trisphuta apply for udaya lagna irrespective of > > > > > > relationship denoting patient. > > > > > > > > > > > To my knowledge, yes. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Say MY son asked a question, I know as father his is > > > > honest and > > > > > > serious. But Prasna Navamsa has not fulfilled trine, > > > > opposite > > > > > > and sign of lord rasi condition well, I can recast prasna > > > > > > another time but what to do when client is sitting before > > > > you > > > > > > for getting the answer. How to handle the situation, any > > > > hint? > > > > > > > > > > > Well, if say a persons son comes to ask the question for thieir > > > > mother, > > > > > then the fourth house (being the mother) should be treated as > > > > lagna in > > > > > navamsa to reckon the lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Of course I have managed Situation by resorting to KP In > > some > > > > cases.) > > > > > > I wish to know your opinion based on actual experience or > > clear > > > > > > understanding to adopt the right way in SJC parampara. Hope > > you > > > > will > > > > > > oblige. > > > > > > > > > > > > Another point, suddenly I am seeing many cases appearing > > related > > > > to > > > > > > balarishta, to see I am resorting to Pataki Arista and > > > > Tripataki > > > > > > chakra. As taught by Prajpatya das and Devki --Nnandan singh > > > > in > > > > > > classical works like Panch- swara and Jyotish Ratnakar. My > > way > > > > is > > > > > > little crude, as you know I have learned from Books. > > > > > > > > > > > I was taught the Pataki chakra, but only vaguely, yet not the > > > > Tripataki > > > > > chakra - thanx for the reference though. Here the chakra is > > drawn > > > > and > > > > > the aspects have to be sought in the horoscope on the lagna and > > > > moon. > > > > > Incase of Balarishta we must pay close attention to the Moon, > > and > > > > the > > > > > numerological years of the planets aspecting will tell which > > age > > > > the > > > > > child may face danger. > > > > > > > > > > > > I had once seen you applying Patki chakra to a case of > > missing > > > > boy on > > > > > > group. I heard you speaking at Delhi on Kaalchakra Gochara > > > > where. You > > > > > > exposed us to movement of Yogni > > > > > > > > > > > > based on nakshatra position of SUN and MOON and You used Yama > > > > concept. > > > > > > > > > > > > As SJC guru I am sure YOU are acquainted with this Tripatiki > > > > chakra > > > > > > application. If there is permission it is requested that this > > > > pious > > > > > > knowledge of Parampra be also taught. > > > > > > > > > > > > With kind regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > RC Srivastava > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Your logic is great and very sharp, and rightly so if the prasna has Saturn in the lagna you should suspect the sincerity of the client, but lets make a small exception just for this case: unless this is an ayur prasna don't answer the question. Btw. you mentioned in a chat that you had some chart which didn't fulfill some rules of sambandha...do send it with questions. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda.com Rafal wrote: > > hraum namah adityaya > Dear Guruji, > > Then offcourse it can give positive answer if other factors shows > good motivation, but still Lagna (jupiter) is Lagna and shows satya, > if shani is there in prasna i suspect the bad motivation - lies. > Question raised seems focused in al-point. > > What do You think? > > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > > > <%40>, Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > But what if the person is speaking of health and longevity - Ayus > Karaka > > Saturn. > > Yours sincerely, > > > > Visti Larsen > > Email: visti > > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > > > > > Rafal wrote: > > > > > > hraum namah adityaya > > > Dear Guruji, > > > > > > According to Sanjay Ji london-lecture we shouldnt answer even at > the > > > first one because the person lies (sani). So why to start,Am I > right? > > > > > > ps. im seein now your last points with charts (venus) and yes > every > > > new upadesa should be checked with three charts at least for > proper > > > convinction and digestion. Thank You! > > > > > > Regards > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Visti Larsen <visti@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > > > Because already after the first question the sattva guna has > > > fallen > > > > completely. > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > Email: visti@ > > > > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar > > > > > Dear Guruji, > > > > > Why Sani in lagna reduces prasna to one question? > > > > > Regards > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Visti Larsen > <visti@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > > > > Dear Srivastava, Namaskar. > > > > > > Comments below to your questions. > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > Email: visti@ > > > > > > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > > > > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com > <http://srigaruda.com>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > swami wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear , visti, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A few doubts exist in analysis of prasna. I posted but it > > > > > escaped your > > > > > > > valued attention. May I repost with slight modification? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Rah is in Aquarius. Saturn is in Cancer. If in prasna > > > udaya > > > > > > > lagan is Aquarius , what inference about genuineness of > > > > > Prasna > > > > > > > should be drawn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > This also depends on the purpose of the prasna. For disease > > > Prasna > > > > > > Saturn in lagna is perfectly fine, but would limit the > prasna > > > to > > > > > only > > > > > > one question. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. In disease prasna Usually it is some relative who is > > > > > asking the > > > > > > > question. It is seldom that Patient makes approach. My > > > > > question > > > > > > > is will trisphuta apply for udaya lagna irrespective of > > > > > > > relationship denoting patient. > > > > > > > > > > > > > To my knowledge, yes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Say MY son asked a question, I know as father his is > > > > > honest and > > > > > > > serious. But Prasna Navamsa has not fulfilled trine, > > > > > opposite > > > > > > > and sign of lord rasi condition well, I can recast prasna > > > > > > > another time but what to do when client is sitting before > > > > > you > > > > > > > for getting the answer. How to handle the situation, any > > > > > hint? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, if say a persons son comes to ask the question for > thieir > > > > > mother, > > > > > > then the fourth house (being the mother) should be treated > as > > > > > lagna in > > > > > > navamsa to reckon the lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Of course I have managed Situation by resorting to KP In > > > some > > > > > cases.) > > > > > > > I wish to know your opinion based on actual experience or > > > clear > > > > > > > understanding to adopt the right way in SJC parampara. > Hope > > > you > > > > > will > > > > > > > oblige. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another point, suddenly I am seeing many cases appearing > > > related > > > > > to > > > > > > > balarishta, to see I am resorting to Pataki Arista and > > > > > Tripataki > > > > > > > chakra. As taught by Prajpatya das and Devki --Nnandan > singh > > > > > in > > > > > > > classical works like Panch- swara and Jyotish Ratnakar. > My > > > way > > > > > is > > > > > > > little crude, as you know I have learned from Books. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was taught the Pataki chakra, but only vaguely, yet not > the > > > > > Tripataki > > > > > > chakra - thanx for the reference though. Here the chakra is > > > drawn > > > > > and > > > > > > the aspects have to be sought in the horoscope on the > lagna and > > > > > moon. > > > > > > Incase of Balarishta we must pay close attention to the > Moon, > > > and > > > > > the > > > > > > numerological years of the planets aspecting will tell > which > > > age > > > > > the > > > > > > child may face danger. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had once seen you applying Patki chakra to a case of > > > missing > > > > > boy on > > > > > > > group. I heard you speaking at Delhi on Kaalchakra > Gochara > > > > > where. You > > > > > > > exposed us to movement of Yogni > > > > > > > > > > > > > > based on nakshatra position of SUN and MOON and You used > Yama > > > > > concept. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As SJC guru I am sure YOU are acquainted with this > Tripatiki > > > > > chakra > > > > > > > application. If there is permission it is requested that > this > > > > > pious > > > > > > > knowledge of Parampra be also taught. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With kind regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RC Srivastava > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 II Om Gurave Namah II Dear Rafal and visti Perhaps in drafting the question I lost clarity, See nowadays Aquarious sgn rising has Rah.A tamsic planet is placed in a own sign (Rahu is co - lord of Aquarious himself) saturn has come to Leo has grah dristi on own sign He is lord of Aquarious also .Here i wish to understand intererpretation when in prasana Aqurious rises.Not only Tamsic influence exists Both are lagna lord.Satya peeth is strong,Isint it? lagna is very powerful. I raised the querry as before posting Three questions examined by me had this sign( Aquarious ) in Ascendant.One was related to Disease other was about investing in purchase of vehicle and running as taxi and third case I have forgotten. I was unsure in second and third case. I need answer ,based on clear insight or experience.( of course this is new pattern rare enough but going to last for good length of time.) Hope to learn considered opinion . For reference Answer of Visti is highlighted"This also depends on the purpose of the prasna. For disease Prasna Saturn in lagna is perfectly fine, but would limit the prasna to only one question.", by the way this was not Answer to my question.. Sarve Bhavantu Sukhinah Sarve Santu Niramaya Sarve Bhadrani Pasyantu Ma Kashchid Dukh Bhaag Bhaveit HARI OM TATSAT ------------------------ R.C.Srivastava For Consultation -Service E-mail : swami_rcs 199,MMIG "Guru Kripa" Shaheed Nagar. Agra 282001 INDIA Ph +91-562-223-2323/+91-562-400-1223 Mob +91-94122-68768 http://www.cosmograce.com http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com ------------------------ Oh Creator Of The Universe ! We meditate upon thy radiant power that illuminate our intellects, destroy our sins, and guide us in the right direction! - Rafal Sunday, November 05, 2006 4:23 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Some doubts in prasna etc hraum namah adityaya Dear Guruji, Then offcourse it can give positive answer if other factors shows good motivation, but still Lagna (jupiter) is Lagna and shows satya, if shani is there in prasna i suspect the bad motivation - lies. Question raised seems focused in al-point. What do You think? Regards Rafal Gendarz , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > But what if the person is speaking of health and longevity - Ayus Karaka > Saturn. > Yours sincerely, > > Visti Larsen > Email: visti > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > > > > Rafal wrote: > > > > hraum namah adityaya > > Dear Guruji, > > > > According to Sanjay Ji london-lecture we shouldnt answer even at the > > first one because the person lies (sani). So why to start,Am I right? > > > > ps. im seein now your last points with charts (venus) and yes every > > new upadesa should be checked with three charts at least for proper > > convinction and digestion. Thank You! > > > > Regards > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > <%40>, Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > > Because already after the first question the sattva guna has > > fallen > > > completely. > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > Email: visti@ > > > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > > <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaskar > > > > Dear Guruji, > > > > Why Sani in lagna reduces prasna to one question? > > > > Regards > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Visti Larsen <visti@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > > > Dear Srivastava, Namaskar. > > > > > Comments below to your questions. > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > Email: visti@ > > > > > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > > > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > swami wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear , visti, > > > > > > > > > > > > A few doubts exist in analysis of prasna. I posted but it > > > > escaped your > > > > > > valued attention. May I repost with slight modification? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Rah is in Aquarius. Saturn is in Cancer. If in prasna > > udaya > > > > > > lagan is Aquarius , what inference about genuineness of > > > > Prasna > > > > > > should be drawn. > > > > > > > > > > > This also depends on the purpose of the prasna. For disease > > Prasna > > > > > Saturn in lagna is perfectly fine, but would limit the prasna > > to > > > > only > > > > > one question. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. In disease prasna Usually it is some relative who is > > > > asking the > > > > > > question. It is seldom that Patient makes approach. My > > > > question > > > > > > is will trisphuta apply for udaya lagna irrespective of > > > > > > relationship denoting patient. > > > > > > > > > > > To my knowledge, yes. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Say MY son asked a question, I know as father his is > > > > honest and > > > > > > serious. But Prasna Navamsa has not fulfilled trine, > > > > opposite > > > > > > and sign of lord rasi condition well, I can recast prasna > > > > > > another time but what to do when client is sitting before > > > > you > > > > > > for getting the answer. How to handle the situation, any > > > > hint? > > > > > > > > > > > Well, if say a persons son comes to ask the question for thieir > > > > mother, > > > > > then the fourth house (being the mother) should be treated as > > > > lagna in > > > > > navamsa to reckon the lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Of course I have managed Situation by resorting to KP In > > some > > > > cases.) > > > > > > I wish to know your opinion based on actual experience or > > clear > > > > > > understanding to adopt the right way in SJC parampara. Hope > > you > > > > will > > > > > > oblige. > > > > > > > > > > > > Another point, suddenly I am seeing many cases appearing > > related > > > > to > > > > > > balarishta, to see I am resorting to Pataki Arista and > > > > Tripataki > > > > > > chakra. As taught by Prajpatya das and Devki --Nnandan singh > > > > in > > > > > > classical works like Panch- swara and Jyotish Ratnakar. My > > way > > > > is > > > > > > little crude, as you know I have learned from Books. > > > > > > > > > > > I was taught the Pataki chakra, but only vaguely, yet not the > > > > Tripataki > > > > > chakra - thanx for the reference though. Here the chakra is > > drawn > > > > and > > > > > the aspects have to be sought in the horoscope on the lagna and > > > > moon. > > > > > Incase of Balarishta we must pay close attention to the Moon, > > and > > > > the > > > > > numerological years of the planets aspecting will tell which > > age > > > > the > > > > > child may face danger. > > > > > > > > > > > > I had once seen you applying Patki chakra to a case of > > missing > > > > boy on > > > > > > group. I heard you speaking at Delhi on Kaalchakra Gochara > > > > where. You > > > > > > exposed us to movement of Yogni > > > > > > > > > > > > based on nakshatra position of SUN and MOON and You used Yama > > > > concept. > > > > > > > > > > > > As SJC guru I am sure YOU are acquainted with this Tripatiki > > > > chakra > > > > > > application. If there is permission it is requested that this > > > > pious > > > > > > knowledge of Parampra be also taught. > > > > > > > > > > > > With kind regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > RC Srivastava > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 II Om Gurave Namah II Hari om , Friend, Dear silva, Thought arising in mind has correspondance to tattwa variation with changing position in matrix of attributes of TIME . Like in Chemistry , same reagent prduces different compound depending upon the compound it reacts with so is the case of Mind that different thought patterns precipated depending upon your past karma and samaskaar and stuff called perception. When divine has a will to answer , same can manifest through the chart caste at the moment astrologer has urge in his mind to look into that matter asked by querent. Now same worry its past and future has to manifest while answering questions . In vedic there are ways to judge if you are entitled to Answer , that planets are responding to particular native and similarly in KP two things are seen ,The matter of clint should be clearly reflected in prasna chart.Ruiling planets hints The Genuine thought process and revaling pattern of future, and cotact point of desire of querent and astrologer is Arudh denoted by Number. This is how matter of Prasna spills over. Hope it answers to some extent. Sarve Bhavantu Sukhinah Sarve Santu Niramaya Sarve Bhadrani Pasyantu Ma Kashchid Dukh Bhaag Bhaveit HARI OM TATSAT ------------------------ R.C.Srivastava E-mail : swami_rcs ------------------------ Oh Creator Of The Universe ! We meditate upon thy radiant power that illuminate our intellects, destroy our sins, and guide us in the right direction! - silva graduate Sunday, November 05, 2006 3:37 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Some doubts in prasna etc Regarding to Prashna, this is teh question that always bothered me. In order to actually draw a precise chart, it is important to determined the time when the question was asked. But when indeed actually the thought about a certain matter arose, no one is able to specify. Then how we can be sure that the Prasna chart actually represent the Fate of certain matter? Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Because already after the first question the sattva guna has fallen completely. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda.com Rafal wrote: Namaskar Dear Guruji, Why Sani in lagna reduces prasna to one question? Regards Rafal Gendarz , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > Dear Srivastava, Namaskar. > Comments below to your questions. > Yours sincerely, > > Visti Larsen > Email: visti > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > > > > swami wrote: > > > > Dear , visti, > > > > A few doubts exist in analysis of prasna. I posted but it escaped your > > valued attention. May I repost with slight modification? > > > > > > > > 1. Rah is in Aquarius. Saturn is in Cancer. If in prasna udaya > > lagan is Aquarius , what inference about genuineness of Prasna > > should be drawn. > > > This also depends on the purpose of the prasna. For disease Prasna > Saturn in lagna is perfectly fine, but would limit the prasna to only > one question. > > > > 1. > > > > > > 2. In disease prasna Usually it is some relative who is asking the > > question. It is seldom that Patient makes approach. My question > > is will trisphuta apply for udaya lagna irrespective of > > relationship denoting patient. > > > To my knowledge, yes. > > > > 1. > > > > > > 2. Say MY son asked a question, I know as father his is honest and > > serious. But Prasna Navamsa has not fulfilled trine, opposite > > and sign of lord rasi condition well, I can recast prasna > > another time but what to do when client is sitting before you > > for getting the answer. How to handle the situation, any hint? > > > Well, if say a persons son comes to ask the question for thieir mother, > then the fourth house (being the mother) should be treated as lagna in > navamsa to reckon the lagna. > > > > 1. > > > > > > (Of course I have managed Situation by resorting to KP In some cases.) > > I wish to know your opinion based on actual experience or clear > > understanding to adopt the right way in SJC parampara. Hope you will > > oblige. > > > > Another point, suddenly I am seeing many cases appearing related to > > balarishta, to see I am resorting to Pataki Arista and Tripataki > > chakra. As taught by Prajpatya das and Devki --Nnandan singh in > > classical works like Panch- swara and Jyotish Ratnakar. My way is > > little crude, as you know I have learned from Books. > > > I was taught the Pataki chakra, but only vaguely, yet not the Tripataki > chakra - thanx for the reference though. Here the chakra is drawn and > the aspects have to be sought in the horoscope on the lagna and moon. > Incase of Balarishta we must pay close attention to the Moon, and the > numerological years of the planets aspecting will tell which age the > child may face danger. > > > > I had once seen you applying Patki chakra to a case of missing boy on > > group. I heard you speaking at Delhi on Kaalchakra Gochara where. You > > exposed us to movement of Yogni > > > > based on nakshatra position of SUN and MOON and You used Yama concept. > > > > As SJC guru I am sure YOU are acquainted with this Tripatiki chakra > > application. If there is permission it is requested that this pious > > knowledge of Parampra be also taught. > > > > With kind regards. > > > > RC Srivastava > > > > > Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 hraum namah adityaya Dear Guruji, Regarding charts which sambandha's i dont understand - I sent You private mail. For auditorium's benefic we can discuss this chart. April 20, 1982 Time: 17:35:00 Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00" Warsaw, Poland AmK in bad yoga in Lagna and in MKS from AK. But only problem regarding work was coming from situation that he had bad boss who cheated Him and treat Him badly.. but maybe its how it works then in the chart. Rest I explained in mail. Regards Rafal Gendarz , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > Your logic is great and very sharp, and rightly so if the prasna has > Saturn in the lagna you should suspect the sincerity of the client, but > lets make a small exception just for this case: unless this is an ayur > prasna don't answer the question. > Btw. you mentioned in a chat that you had some chart which didn't > fulfill some rules of sambandha...do send it with questions. > Yours sincerely, > > Visti Larsen > Email: visti > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > > > > Rafal wrote: > > > > hraum namah adityaya > > Dear Guruji, > > > > Then offcourse it can give positive answer if other factors shows > > good motivation, but still Lagna (jupiter) is Lagna and shows satya, > > if shani is there in prasna i suspect the bad motivation - lies. > > Question raised seems focused in al-point. > > > > What do You think? > > > > Regards > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > <%40>, Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > > But what if the person is speaking of health and longevity - Ayus > > Karaka > > > Saturn. > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > Email: visti@ > > > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > > <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal wrote: > > > > > > > > hraum namah adityaya > > > > Dear Guruji, > > > > > > > > According to Sanjay Ji london-lecture we shouldnt answer even at > > the > > > > first one because the person lies (sani). So why to start,Am I > > right? > > > > > > > > ps. im seein now your last points with charts (venus) and yes > > every > > > > new upadesa should be checked with three charts at least for > > proper > > > > convinction and digestion. Thank You! > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Visti Larsen <visti@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > > > > Because already after the first question the sattva guna has > > > > fallen > > > > > completely. > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > Email: visti@ > > > > > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > > > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar > > > > > > Dear Guruji, > > > > > > Why Sani in lagna reduces prasna to one question? > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Visti Larsen > > <visti@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > > > > > Dear Srivastava, Namaskar. > > > > > > > Comments below to your questions. > > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > > Email: visti@ > > > > > > > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > > > > > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com > > <http://srigaruda.com>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > swami wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear , visti, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A few doubts exist in analysis of prasna. I posted but it > > > > > > escaped your > > > > > > > > valued attention. May I repost with slight modification? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Rah is in Aquarius. Saturn is in Cancer. If in prasna > > > > udaya > > > > > > > > lagan is Aquarius , what inference about genuineness of > > > > > > Prasna > > > > > > > > should be drawn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This also depends on the purpose of the prasna. For disease > > > > Prasna > > > > > > > Saturn in lagna is perfectly fine, but would limit the > > prasna > > > > to > > > > > > only > > > > > > > one question. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. In disease prasna Usually it is some relative who is > > > > > > asking the > > > > > > > > question. It is seldom that Patient makes approach. My > > > > > > question > > > > > > > > is will trisphuta apply for udaya lagna irrespective of > > > > > > > > relationship denoting patient. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To my knowledge, yes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Say MY son asked a question, I know as father his is > > > > > > honest and > > > > > > > > serious. But Prasna Navamsa has not fulfilled trine, > > > > > > opposite > > > > > > > > and sign of lord rasi condition well, I can recast prasna > > > > > > > > another time but what to do when client is sitting before > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > for getting the answer. How to handle the situation, any > > > > > > hint? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, if say a persons son comes to ask the question for > > thieir > > > > > > mother, > > > > > > > then the fourth house (being the mother) should be treated > > as > > > > > > lagna in > > > > > > > navamsa to reckon the lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Of course I have managed Situation by resorting to KP In > > > > some > > > > > > cases.) > > > > > > > > I wish to know your opinion based on actual experience or > > > > clear > > > > > > > > understanding to adopt the right way in SJC parampara. > > Hope > > > > you > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > oblige. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another point, suddenly I am seeing many cases appearing > > > > related > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > balarishta, to see I am resorting to Pataki Arista and > > > > > > Tripataki > > > > > > > > chakra. As taught by Prajpatya das and Devki -- Nnandan > > singh > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > classical works like Panch- swara and Jyotish Ratnakar. > > My > > > > way > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > little crude, as you know I have learned from Books. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was taught the Pataki chakra, but only vaguely, yet not > > the > > > > > > Tripataki > > > > > > > chakra - thanx for the reference though. Here the chakra is > > > > drawn > > > > > > and > > > > > > > the aspects have to be sought in the horoscope on the > > lagna and > > > > > > moon. > > > > > > > Incase of Balarishta we must pay close attention to the > > Moon, > > > > and > > > > > > the > > > > > > > numerological years of the planets aspecting will tell > > which > > > > age > > > > > > the > > > > > > > child may face danger. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had once seen you applying Patki chakra to a case of > > > > missing > > > > > > boy on > > > > > > > > group. I heard you speaking at Delhi on Kaalchakra > > Gochara > > > > > > where. You > > > > > > > > exposed us to movement of Yogni > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > based on nakshatra position of SUN and MOON and You used > > Yama > > > > > > concept. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As SJC guru I am sure YOU are acquainted with this > > Tripatiki > > > > > > chakra > > > > > > > > application. If there is permission it is requested that > > this > > > > > > pious > > > > > > > > knowledge of Parampra be also taught. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With kind regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RC Srivastava > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 || Hare Raama Krsna || || Durgaa Saranam || Dear Visti-ji, Srivastava-ji and Rafal, Pranaam/namaskar. In my understanding, the guna of a graha is enhanced or suppressed by the rasi it is posited in ( and per Sri R. G. Rao by the nakshatra it is posited in, as well). Hence even it a tamasik graha is in lagna we should see the rasi as well. Sani is Meena rasi is said to represent a brahmin. Sani not only represents lies or doubts but also represents depression etc. So if a person is under depression his lagna is likely afflicted thus. In order to make judgement we should carefully see these things before rejecting a prasna. If both lagna and paakalagna are afflicted by tamasik grahas, it is worse, as intellect is also under tamas. Both nature of prasna, and person asking prasna (lakshanas) should be judged. In modern electronic age, such assessment (like body part touched by the querrant or direction he is coming from etc.) cannot be made and hence must be replaced by faith only. Please rectify my understanding. Best wishes, Sourav ================================================================== Best wishes, Sourav , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > Your logic is great and very sharp, and rightly so if the prasna has > Saturn in the lagna you should suspect the sincerity of the client, but > lets make a small exception just for this case: unless this is an ayur > prasna don't answer the question. > Btw. you mentioned in a chat that you had some chart which didn't > fulfill some rules of sambandha...do send it with questions. > Yours sincerely, > > Visti Larsen > Email: visti > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > > > > Rafal wrote: > > > > hraum namah adityaya > > Dear Guruji, > > > > Then offcourse it can give positive answer if other factors shows > > good motivation, but still Lagna (jupiter) is Lagna and shows satya, > > if shani is there in prasna i suspect the bad motivation - lies. > > Question raised seems focused in al-point. > > > > What do You think? > > > > Regards > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > <%40>, Visti Larsen visti@ wrote: > > > > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > > But what if the person is speaking of health and longevity - Ayus > > Karaka > > > Saturn. > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > Email: visti@ > > > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > > <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal wrote: > > > > > > > > hraum namah adityaya > > > > Dear Guruji, > > > > > > > > According to Sanjay Ji london-lecture we shouldnt answer even at > > the > > > > first one because the person lies (sani). So why to start,Am I > > right? > > > > > > > > ps. im seein now your last points with charts (venus) and yes > > every > > > > new upadesa should be checked with three charts at least for > > proper > > > > convinction and digestion. Thank You! > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Visti Larsen <visti@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > > > > Because already after the first question the sattva guna has > > > > fallen > > > > > completely. > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > Email: visti@ > > > > > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > > > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar > > > > > > Dear Guruji, > > > > > > Why Sani in lagna reduces prasna to one question? > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Visti Larsen > > <visti@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > > > > > Dear Srivastava, Namaskar. > > > > > > > Comments below to your questions. > > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > > Email: visti@ > > > > > > > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > > > > > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com > > <http://srigaruda.com>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > swami wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear , visti, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A few doubts exist in analysis of prasna. I posted but it > > > > > > escaped your > > > > > > > > valued attention. May I repost with slight modification? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Rah is in Aquarius. Saturn is in Cancer. If in prasna > > > > udaya > > > > > > > > lagan is Aquarius , what inference about genuineness of > > > > > > Prasna > > > > > > > > should be drawn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This also depends on the purpose of the prasna. For disease > > > > Prasna > > > > > > > Saturn in lagna is perfectly fine, but would limit the > > prasna > > > > to > > > > > > only > > > > > > > one question. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. In disease prasna Usually it is some relative who is > > > > > > asking the > > > > > > > > question. It is seldom that Patient makes approach. My > > > > > > question > > > > > > > > is will trisphuta apply for udaya lagna irrespective of > > > > > > > > relationship denoting patient. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To my knowledge, yes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Say MY son asked a question, I know as father his is > > > > > > honest and > > > > > > > > serious. But Prasna Navamsa has not fulfilled trine, > > > > > > opposite > > > > > > > > and sign of lord rasi condition well, I can recast prasna > > > > > > > > another time but what to do when client is sitting before > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > for getting the answer. How to handle the situation, any > > > > > > hint? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, if say a persons son comes to ask the question for > > thieir > > > > > > mother, > > > > > > > then the fourth house (being the mother) should be treated > > as > > > > > > lagna in > > > > > > > navamsa to reckon the lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Of course I have managed Situation by resorting to KP In > > > > some > > > > > > cases.) > > > > > > > > I wish to know your opinion based on actual experience or > > > > clear > > > > > > > > understanding to adopt the right way in SJC parampara. > > Hope > > > > you > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > oblige. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another point, suddenly I am seeing many cases appearing > > > > related > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > balarishta, to see I am resorting to Pataki Arista and > > > > > > Tripataki > > > > > > > > chakra. As taught by Prajpatya das and Devki --Nnandan > > singh > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > classical works like Panch- swara and Jyotish Ratnakar. > > My > > > > way > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > little crude, as you know I have learned from Books. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was taught the Pataki chakra, but only vaguely, yet not > > the > > > > > > Tripataki > > > > > > > chakra - thanx for the reference though. Here the chakra is > > > > drawn > > > > > > and > > > > > > > the aspects have to be sought in the horoscope on the > > lagna and > > > > > > moon. > > > > > > > Incase of Balarishta we must pay close attention to the > > Moon, > > > > and > > > > > > the > > > > > > > numerological years of the planets aspecting will tell > > which > > > > age > > > > > > the > > > > > > > child may face danger. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had once seen you applying Patki chakra to a case of > > > > missing > > > > > > boy on > > > > > > > > group. I heard you speaking at Delhi on Kaalchakra > > Gochara > > > > > > where. You > > > > > > > > exposed us to movement of Yogni > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > based on nakshatra position of SUN and MOON and You used > > Yama > > > > > > concept. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As SJC guru I am sure YOU are acquainted with this > > Tripatiki > > > > > > chakra > > > > > > > > application. If there is permission it is requested that > > this > > > > > > pious > > > > > > > > knowledge of Parampra be also taught. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With kind regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RC Srivastava > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Right, but in this chart Mercury and 10th lord aren't having a sambandha problem, so we cannot say that profession is having a problem. Remember the rule of 3. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda.com Rafal wrote: > > hraum namah adityaya > Dear Guruji, > > Regarding charts which sambandha's i dont understand - I sent You > private mail. For auditorium's benefic we can discuss this chart. > > April 20, 1982 > Time: 17:35:00 > Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00" > Warsaw, Poland > > AmK in bad yoga in Lagna and in MKS from AK. But only problem > regarding work was coming from situation that he had bad boss who > cheated Him and treat Him badly.. but maybe its how it works then in > the chart. Rest I explained in mail. > > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > > > <%40>, Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > Your logic is great and very sharp, and rightly so if the prasna > has > > Saturn in the lagna you should suspect the sincerity of the > client, but > > lets make a small exception just for this case: unless this is an > ayur > > prasna don't answer the question. > > Btw. you mentioned in a chat that you had some chart which didn't > > fulfill some rules of sambandha... do send it with questions. > > Yours sincerely, > > > > Visti Larsen > > Email: visti > > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > > > > > Rafal wrote: > > > > > > hraum namah adityaya > > > Dear Guruji, > > > > > > Then offcourse it can give positive answer if other factors shows > > > good motivation, but still Lagna (jupiter) is Lagna and shows > satya, > > > if shani is there in prasna i suspect the bad motivation - lies. > > > Question raised seems focused in al-point. > > > > > > What do You think? > > > > > > Regards > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Visti Larsen <visti@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > > > But what if the person is speaking of health and longevity - > Ayus > > > Karaka > > > > Saturn. > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > Email: visti@ > > > > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal wrote: > > > > > > > > > > hraum namah adityaya > > > > > Dear Guruji, > > > > > > > > > > According to Sanjay Ji london-lecture we shouldnt answer > even at > > > the > > > > > first one because the person lies (sani). So why to start,Am > I > > > right? > > > > > > > > > > ps. im seein now your last points with charts (venus) and yes > > > every > > > > > new upadesa should be checked with three charts at least for > > > proper > > > > > convinction and digestion. Thank You! > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Visti Larsen > <visti@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > > > > > Because already after the first question the sattva guna > has > > > > > fallen > > > > > > completely. > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > Email: visti@ > > > > > > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > > > > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com > <http://srigaruda.com>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar > > > > > > > Dear Guruji, > > > > > > > Why Sani in lagna reduces prasna to one question? > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Visti Larsen > > > <visti@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > > > > > > Dear Srivastava, Namaskar. > > > > > > > > Comments below to your questions. > > > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > > > Email: visti@ > > > > > > > > For Consultations and Articles visit: > http://srigaruda. com > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com > > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > swami wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear , visti, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A few doubts exist in analysis of prasna. I posted > but it > > > > > > > escaped your > > > > > > > > > valued attention. May I repost with slight > modification? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Rah is in Aquarius. Saturn is in Cancer. If in > prasna > > > > > udaya > > > > > > > > > lagan is Aquarius , what inference about genuineness > of > > > > > > > Prasna > > > > > > > > > should be drawn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This also depends on the purpose of the prasna. For > disease > > > > > Prasna > > > > > > > > Saturn in lagna is perfectly fine, but would limit the > > > prasna > > > > > to > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > one question. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. In disease prasna Usually it is some relative who > is > > > > > > > asking the > > > > > > > > > question. It is seldom that Patient makes approach. > My > > > > > > > question > > > > > > > > > is will trisphuta apply for udaya lagna irrespective > of > > > > > > > > > relationship denoting patient. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To my knowledge, yes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Say MY son asked a question, I know as father his > is > > > > > > > honest and > > > > > > > > > serious. But Prasna Navamsa has not fulfilled trine, > > > > > > > opposite > > > > > > > > > and sign of lord rasi condition well, I can recast > prasna > > > > > > > > > another time but what to do when client is sitting > before > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > for getting the answer. How to handle the situation, > any > > > > > > > hint? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, if say a persons son comes to ask the question > for > > > thieir > > > > > > > mother, > > > > > > > > then the fourth house (being the mother) should be > treated > > > as > > > > > > > lagna in > > > > > > > > navamsa to reckon the lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Of course I have managed Situation by resorting to > KP In > > > > > some > > > > > > > cases.) > > > > > > > > > I wish to know your opinion based on actual > experience or > > > > > clear > > > > > > > > > understanding to adopt the right way in SJC > parampara. > > > Hope > > > > > you > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > oblige. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another point, suddenly I am seeing many cases > appearing > > > > > related > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > balarishta, to see I am resorting to Pataki Arista > and > > > > > > > Tripataki > > > > > > > > > chakra. As taught by Prajpatya das and Devki -- > Nnandan > > > singh > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > classical works like Panch- swara and Jyotish > Ratnakar. > > > My > > > > > way > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > little crude, as you know I have learned from Books. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was taught the Pataki chakra, but only vaguely, yet > not > > > the > > > > > > > Tripataki > > > > > > > > chakra - thanx for the reference though. Here the > chakra is > > > > > drawn > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > the aspects have to be sought in the horoscope on the > > > lagna and > > > > > > > moon. > > > > > > > > Incase of Balarishta we must pay close attention to the > > > Moon, > > > > > and > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > numerological years of the planets aspecting will tell > > > which > > > > > age > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > child may face danger. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had once seen you applying Patki chakra to a case > of > > > > > missing > > > > > > > boy on > > > > > > > > > group. I heard you speaking at Delhi on Kaalchakra > > > Gochara > > > > > > > where. You > > > > > > > > > exposed us to movement of Yogni > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > based on nakshatra position of SUN and MOON and You > used > > > Yama > > > > > > > concept. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As SJC guru I am sure YOU are acquainted with this > > > Tripatiki > > > > > > > chakra > > > > > > > > > application. If there is permission it is requested > that > > > this > > > > > > > pious > > > > > > > > > knowledge of Parampra be also taught. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With kind regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RC Srivastava > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Srivastava, Namaskar. No matter how strong the lagna becomes, Rahu and Saturn cannot change their nature soo easily. Rahu and Saturn are tamasic no matter whether they are strong or not. So they cause insincerity in the prasna. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda.com swami wrote: > > > II Om Gurave Namah II > Dear Rafal and visti > Perhaps in drafting the question I lost clarity, See nowadays > Aquarious sgn rising has Rah.A tamsic planet is placed in a own sign > (Rahu is co - lord of Aquarious himself) saturn has come to Leo has > grah dristi on own sign He is lord of Aquarious also .Here i wish to > understand intererpretation when in prasana Aqurious rises.Not only > Tamsic influence exists Both are lagna lord.Satya peeth is > strong,Isint it? lagna is very powerful. > I raised the querry as before posting Three questions examined by me > had this sign( Aquarious ) in Ascendant.One was related to Disease > other was about investing in purchase of vehicle and running as taxi > and third case I have forgotten. I was unsure in second and third case. > I need answer ,based on clear insight or experience.( of course this > is new pattern rare enough but going to last for good length of time.) > Hope to learn considered opinion . For reference Answer of Visti is > highlighted" This also depends on the purpose of the prasna. For > disease Prasna Saturn in lagna is perfectly fine, but would limit the > prasna to only one question.", by the way this was not Answer to my > question.. > > Sarve Bhavantu Sukhinah > Sarve Santu Niramaya > Sarve Bhadrani Pasyantu > Ma Kashchid Dukh Bhaag Bhaveit > HARI OM TATSAT > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- > R.C.Srivastava > For Consultation -Service > E-mail : swami_rcs <swami_rcs > > > 199,MMIG "Guru Kripa" > Shaheed Nagar. Agra 282001 > INDIA > > Ph +91-562-223- 2323/+91- 562-400-1223 > Mob +91-94122-68768 > http://www.cosmogra ce.com <http://www.cosmograce.com> > http://www.cosmogra ce.blogspot. com <http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- > Oh Creator Of The Universe ! We meditate upon thy > radiant power that illuminate our intellects, destroy > our sins, and guide us in the right direction! > > > > - > ** Rafal <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> > *To:* > <> > *Sent:* Sunday, November 05, 2006 4:23 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Some doubts in prasna etc > > hraum namah adityaya > Dear Guruji, > > Then offcourse it can give positive answer if other factors shows > good motivation, but still Lagna (jupiter) is Lagna and shows satya, > if shani is there in prasna i suspect the bad motivation - lies. > Question raised seems focused in al-point. > > What do You think? > > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > > > <>, Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > But what if the person is speaking of health and longevity - Ayus > Karaka > > Saturn. > > Yours sincerely, > > > > Visti Larsen > > Email: visti > > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > > > > > Rafal wrote: > > > > > > hraum namah adityaya > > > Dear Guruji, > > > > > > According to Sanjay Ji london-lecture we shouldnt answer even at > the > > > first one because the person lies (sani). So why to start,Am I > right? > > > > > > ps. im seein now your last points with charts (venus) and yes > every > > > new upadesa should be checked with three charts at least for > proper > > > convinction and digestion. Thank You! > > > > > > Regards > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Visti Larsen <visti@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > > > Because already after the first question the sattva guna has > > > fallen > > > > completely. > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > Email: visti@ > > > > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar > > > > > Dear Guruji, > > > > > Why Sani in lagna reduces prasna to one question? > > > > > Regards > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Visti Larsen > <visti@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > > > > Dear Srivastava, Namaskar. > > > > > > Comments below to your questions. > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > Email: visti@ > > > > > > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > > > > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com > <http://srigaruda.com>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > swami wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear , visti, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A few doubts exist in analysis of prasna. I posted but it > > > > > escaped your > > > > > > > valued attention. May I repost with slight modification? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Rah is in Aquarius. Saturn is in Cancer. If in prasna > > > udaya > > > > > > > lagan is Aquarius , what inference about genuineness of > > > > > Prasna > > > > > > > should be drawn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > This also depends on the purpose of the prasna. For disease > > > Prasna > > > > > > Saturn in lagna is perfectly fine, but would limit the > prasna > > > to > > > > > only > > > > > > one question. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. In disease prasna Usually it is some relative who is > > > > > asking the > > > > > > > question. It is seldom that Patient makes approach. My > > > > > question > > > > > > > is will trisphuta apply for udaya lagna irrespective of > > > > > > > relationship denoting patient. > > > > > > > > > > > > > To my knowledge, yes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Say MY son asked a question, I know as father his is > > > > > honest and > > > > > > > serious. But Prasna Navamsa has not fulfilled trine, > > > > > opposite > > > > > > > and sign of lord rasi condition well, I can recast prasna > > > > > > > another time but what to do when client is sitting before > > > > > you > > > > > > > for getting the answer. How to handle the situation, any > > > > > hint? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, if say a persons son comes to ask the question for > thieir > > > > > mother, > > > > > > then the fourth house (being the mother) should be treated > as > > > > > lagna in > > > > > > navamsa to reckon the lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Of course I have managed Situation by resorting to KP In > > > some > > > > > cases.) > > > > > > > I wish to know your opinion based on actual experience or > > > clear > > > > > > > understanding to adopt the right way in SJC parampara. > Hope > > > you > > > > > will > > > > > > > oblige. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another point, suddenly I am seeing many cases appearing > > > related > > > > > to > > > > > > > balarishta, to see I am resorting to Pataki Arista and > > > > > Tripataki > > > > > > > chakra. As taught by Prajpatya das and Devki --Nnandan > singh > > > > > in > > > > > > > classical works like Panch- swara and Jyotish Ratnakar. > My > > > way > > > > > is > > > > > > > little crude, as you know I have learned from Books. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was taught the Pataki chakra, but only vaguely, yet not > the > > > > > Tripataki > > > > > > chakra - thanx for the reference though. Here the chakra is > > > drawn > > > > > and > > > > > > the aspects have to be sought in the horoscope on the > lagna and > > > > > moon. > > > > > > Incase of Balarishta we must pay close attention to the > Moon, > > > and > > > > > the > > > > > > numerological years of the planets aspecting will tell > which > > > age > > > > > the > > > > > > child may face danger. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had once seen you applying Patki chakra to a case of > > > missing > > > > > boy on > > > > > > > group. I heard you speaking at Delhi on Kaalchakra > Gochara > > > > > where. You > > > > > > > exposed us to movement of Yogni > > > > > > > > > > > > > > based on nakshatra position of SUN and MOON and You used > Yama > > > > > concept. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As SJC guru I am sure YOU are acquainted with this > Tripatiki > > > > > chakra > > > > > > > application. If there is permission it is requested that > this > > > > > pious > > > > > > > knowledge of Parampra be also taught. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With kind regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RC Srivastava > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 II Om Gurave Namah II Hari om , Friend, DEAR VISTI, THANKS FOR CLARIFICATION. I am grateful. Sarve Bhavantu Sukhinah Sarve Santu Niramaya Sarve Bhadrani Pasyantu Ma Kashchid Dukh Bhaag Bhaveit HARI OM TATSAT ------------------------ R.C.Srivastava For Consultation -Service E-mail : swami_rcs 199,MMIG "Guru Kripa" Shaheed Nagar. Agra 282001 INDIA Ph +91-562-223-2323/+91-562-400-1223 Mob +91-94122-68768 http://www.cosmograce.com http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com ------------------------ Oh Creator Of The Universe ! We meditate upon thy radiant power that illuminate our intellects, destroy our sins, and guide us in the right direction! - Visti Larsen Sunday, November 05, 2006 10:39 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Some doubts in prasna etc |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Srivastava, Namaskar. No matter how strong the lagna becomes, Rahu and Saturn cannot change their nature soo easily. Rahu and Saturn are tamasic no matter whether they are strong or not. So they cause insincerity in the prasna. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda.com swami wrote: II Om Gurave Namah II Dear Rafal and visti Perhaps in drafting the question I lost clarity, See nowadays Aquarious sgn rising has Rah.A tamsic planet is placed in a own sign (Rahu is co - lord of Aquarious himself) saturn has come to Leo has grah dristi on own sign He is lord of Aquarious also .Here i wish to understand intererpretation when in prasana Aqurious rises.Not only Tamsic influence exists Both are lagna lord.Satya peeth is strong,Isint it? lagna is very powerful. I raised the querry as before posting Three questions examined by me had this sign( Aquarious ) in Ascendant.One was related to Disease other was about investing in purchase of vehicle and running as taxi and third case I have forgotten. I was unsure in second and third case. I need answer ,based on clear insight or experience.( of course this is new pattern rare enough but going to last for good length of time.) Hope to learn considered opinion . For reference Answer of Visti is highlighted" This also depends on the purpose of the prasna. For disease Prasna Saturn in lagna is perfectly fine, but would limit the prasna to only one question.", by the way this was not Answer to my question.. Sarve Bhavantu Sukhinah Sarve Santu Niramaya Sarve Bhadrani Pasyantu Ma Kashchid Dukh Bhaag Bhaveit HARI OM TATSAT ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- R.C.Srivastava For Consultation -Service E-mail : swami_rcs 199,MMIG "Guru Kripa" Shaheed Nagar. Agra 282001 INDIA Ph +91-562-223- 2323/+91- 562-400-1223 Mob +91-94122-68768 http://www.cosmogra ce.com http://www.cosmogra ce.blogspot. com ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- Oh Creator Of The Universe ! We meditate upon thy radiant power that illuminate our intellects, destroy our sins, and guide us in the right direction! - Rafal Sunday, November 05, 2006 4:23 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Some doubts in prasna etc hraum namah adityaya Dear Guruji, Then offcourse it can give positive answer if other factors shows good motivation, but still Lagna (jupiter) is Lagna and shows satya, if shani is there in prasna i suspect the bad motivation - lies. Question raised seems focused in al-point. What do You think? Regards Rafal Gendarz , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > But what if the person is speaking of health and longevity - Ayus Karaka > Saturn. > Yours sincerely, > > Visti Larsen > Email: visti > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > > > > Rafal wrote: > > > > hraum namah adityaya > > Dear Guruji, > > > > According to Sanjay Ji london-lecture we shouldnt answer even at the > > first one because the person lies (sani). So why to start,Am I right? > > > > ps. im seein now your last points with charts (venus) and yes every > > new upadesa should be checked with three charts at least for proper > > convinction and digestion. Thank You! > > > > Regards > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > > Because already after the first question the sattva guna has > > fallen > > > completely. > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > Email: visti@ > > > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > > <http://srigaruda. com> > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaskar > > > > Dear Guruji, > > > > Why Sani in lagna reduces prasna to one question? > > > > Regards > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Visti Larsen <visti@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > > > Dear Srivastava, Namaskar. > > > > > Comments below to your questions. > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > Email: visti@ > > > > > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > > > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > swami wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear , visti, > > > > > > > > > > > > A few doubts exist in analysis of prasna. I posted but it > > > > escaped your > > > > > > valued attention. May I repost with slight modification? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Rah is in Aquarius. Saturn is in Cancer. If in prasna > > udaya > > > > > > lagan is Aquarius , what inference about genuineness of > > > > Prasna > > > > > > should be drawn. > > > > > > > > > > > This also depends on the purpose of the prasna. For disease > > Prasna > > > > > Saturn in lagna is perfectly fine, but would limit the prasna > > to > > > > only > > > > > one question. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. In disease prasna Usually it is some relative who is > > > > asking the > > > > > > question. It is seldom that Patient makes approach. My > > > > question > > > > > > is will trisphuta apply for udaya lagna irrespective of > > > > > > relationship denoting patient. > > > > > > > > > > > To my knowledge, yes. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Say MY son asked a question, I know as father his is > > > > honest and > > > > > > serious. But Prasna Navamsa has not fulfilled trine, > > > > opposite > > > > > > and sign of lord rasi condition well, I can recast prasna > > > > > > another time but what to do when client is sitting before > > > > you > > > > > > for getting the answer. How to handle the situation, any > > > > hint? > > > > > > > > > > > Well, if say a persons son comes to ask the question for thieir > > > > mother, > > > > > then the fourth house (being the mother) should be treated as > > > > lagna in > > > > > navamsa to reckon the lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Of course I have managed Situation by resorting to KP In > > some > > > > cases.) > > > > > > I wish to know your opinion based on actual experience or > > clear > > > > > > understanding to adopt the right way in SJC parampara. Hope > > you > > > > will > > > > > > oblige. > > > > > > > > > > > > Another point, suddenly I am seeing many cases appearing > > related > > > > to > > > > > > balarishta, to see I am resorting to Pataki Arista and > > > > Tripataki > > > > > > chakra. As taught by Prajpatya das and Devki --Nnandan singh > > > > in > > > > > > classical works like Panch- swara and Jyotish Ratnakar. My > > way > > > > is > > > > > > little crude, as you know I have learned from Books. > > > > > > > > > > > I was taught the Pataki chakra, but only vaguely, yet not the > > > > Tripataki > > > > > chakra - thanx for the reference though. Here the chakra is > > drawn > > > > and > > > > > the aspects have to be sought in the horoscope on the lagna and > > > > moon. > > > > > Incase of Balarishta we must pay close attention to the Moon, > > and > > > > the > > > > > numerological years of the planets aspecting will tell which > > age > > > > the > > > > > child may face danger. > > > > > > > > > > > > I had once seen you applying Patki chakra to a case of > > missing > > > > boy on > > > > > > group. I heard you speaking at Delhi on Kaalchakra Gochara > > > > where. You > > > > > > exposed us to movement of Yogni > > > > > > > > > > > > based on nakshatra position of SUN and MOON and You used Yama > > > > concept. > > > > > > > > > > > > As SJC guru I am sure YOU are acquainted with this Tripatiki > > > > chakra > > > > > > application. If there is permission it is requested that this > > > > pious > > > > > > knowledge of Parampra be also taught. > > > > > > > > > > > > With kind regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > RC Srivastava > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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