Strong Malefics are a blessing? No?? Yes???

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The pure states seen in horoscopes, though not always --

Benefics that are strong but in dushthanas

Benefics that are strong and in good sthanas

Malefics that are strong and in dushthanas

Malefics that are strong and in good sthanas

 

This thread is not about starting a discussion and blood-bath about

what is a malefic or what is a benefic or what is a dusthana vs a

susthana!

 

Unless there is confusion about that first step?

 

Please contribute your light and understanding so far.

 

RR

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Strong grahas , in my opinion, preferable to weaker or afflicted

ones whether they be malefic or benefic.

rishi

 

 

, "Rohiniranjan"

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> The pure states seen in horoscopes, though not always --

> Benefics that are strong but in dushthanas

> Benefics that are strong and in good sthanas

> Malefics that are strong and in dushthanas

> Malefics that are strong and in good sthanas

>

> This thread is not about starting a discussion and blood-bath

about

> what is a malefic or what is a benefic or what is a dusthana vs a

> susthana!

>

> Unless there is confusion about that first step?

>

> Please contribute your light and understanding so far.

>

> RR

>

[Guest guest]

What is strong in that scheme of things/

 

Shani in Tula?

Shani in Makar??

Shani in Kumbha???

Shani in all of Kumbha????

 

Even if they may not -- YOU MUST ask those questions!

 

 

, "rishi_2000in"

<rishi_2000in wrote:

>

> Strong grahas , in my opinion, preferable to weaker or afflicted

> ones whether they be malefic or benefic.

> rishi

>

>

> , "Rohiniranjan"

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > The pure states seen in horoscopes, though not always --

> > Benefics that are strong but in dushthanas

> > Benefics that are strong and in good sthanas

> > Malefics that are strong and in dushthanas

> > Malefics that are strong and in good sthanas

> >

> > This thread is not about starting a discussion and blood-bath

> about

> > what is a malefic or what is a benefic or what is a dusthana vs a

> > susthana!

> >

> > Unless there is confusion about that first step?

> >

> > Please contribute your light and understanding so far.

> >

> > RR

> >

>

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Shani at around 20 Tula, then the rest of Tula.

Shani in Kumbha in Mooltrikona

Shani in rest of Kumbha and Makar

 

And if I may add, Shani just about to enter/leave

retrograde status particularly in Mooltrikona or

exaltation.

 

Who are they?

rishi

 

--- Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

 

> What is strong in that scheme of things/

>

> Shani in Tula?

> Shani in Makar??

> Shani in Kumbha???

> Shani in all of Kumbha????

>

> Even if they may not -- YOU MUST ask those

> questions!

>

>

> ,

> "rishi_2000in"

> <rishi_2000in wrote:

> >

> > Strong grahas , in my opinion, preferable to

> weaker or afflicted

> > ones whether they be malefic or benefic.

> > rishi

> >

> >

> > ,

> "Rohiniranjan"

> > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > The pure states seen in horoscopes, though not

> always --

> > > Benefics that are strong but in dushthanas

> > > Benefics that are strong and in good sthanas

> > > Malefics that are strong and in dushthanas

> > > Malefics that are strong and in good sthanas

> > >

> > > This thread is not about starting a discussion

> and blood-bath

> > about

> > > what is a malefic or what is a benefic or what

> is a dusthana vs a

> > > susthana!

> > >

> > > Unless there is confusion about that first step?

> > >

> > > Please contribute your light and understanding

> so far.

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Who are they?

 

Us really!

 

Third person is the myth that only exists in the fantasy of the first

person when S/he is talking to the non-existent second person

(grammatically speaking!)!

 

I like how you introduce the 'gear box'!

 

Forward-backward!

 

Please tell us more...

 

, rishi shukla

<rishi_2000in wrote:

>

> Shani at around 20 Tula, then the rest of Tula.

> Shani in Kumbha in Mooltrikona

> Shani in rest of Kumbha and Makar

>

> And if I may add, Shani just about to enter/leave

> retrograde status particularly in Mooltrikona or

> exaltation.

>

> Who are they?

> rishi

>

> --- Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> > What is strong in that scheme of things/

> >

> > Shani in Tula?

> > Shani in Makar??

> > Shani in Kumbha???

> > Shani in all of Kumbha????

> >

> > Even if they may not -- YOU MUST ask those

> > questions!

> >

> >

> > ,

> > "rishi_2000in"

> > <rishi_2000in@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Strong grahas , in my opinion, preferable to

> > weaker or afflicted

> > > ones whether they be malefic or benefic.

> > > rishi

> > >

> > >

> > > ,

> > "Rohiniranjan"

> > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > The pure states seen in horoscopes, though not

> > always --

> > > > Benefics that are strong but in dushthanas

> > > > Benefics that are strong and in good sthanas

> > > > Malefics that are strong and in dushthanas

> > > > Malefics that are strong and in good sthanas

> > > >

> > > > This thread is not about starting a discussion

> > and blood-bath

> > > about

> > > > what is a malefic or what is a benefic or what

> > is a dusthana vs a

> > > > susthana!

> > > >

> > > > Unless there is confusion about that first step?

> > > >

> > > > Please contribute your light and understanding

> > so far.

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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It is interesting, Sir, that Shani at its highest

exaltation point goes and gets in deep debility in

navamsha. Why should this be the design of nature or

Jyotisha?

 

Well, the modern techology has dome away with manual

gears but the gears have not really gone away, have

they?

 

I do not have any classical support or backup for it

in Jyotish but the classical stationary station of

Tropical astrology has its relevance.

rishi

 

 

--- Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

 

> Who are they?

>

> Us really!

>

> Third person is the myth that only exists in the

> fantasy of the first

> person when S/he is talking to the non-existent

> second person

> (grammatically speaking!)!

>

> I like how you introduce the 'gear box'!

>

> Forward-backward!

>

> Please tell us more...

>

> , rishi

> shukla

> <rishi_2000in wrote:

> >

> > Shani at around 20 Tula, then the rest of Tula.

> > Shani in Kumbha in Mooltrikona

> > Shani in rest of Kumbha and Makar

> >

> > And if I may add, Shani just about to enter/leave

> > retrograde status particularly in Mooltrikona or

> > exaltation.

> >

> > Who are they?

> > rishi

> >

> > --- Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani wrote:

> >

> > > What is strong in that scheme of things/

> > >

> > > Shani in Tula?

> > > Shani in Makar??

> > > Shani in Kumbha???

> > > Shani in all of Kumbha????

> > >

> > > Even if they may not -- YOU MUST ask those

> > > questions!

> > >

> > >

> > > ,

> > > "rishi_2000in"

> > > <rishi_2000in@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Strong grahas , in my opinion, preferable to

> > > weaker or afflicted

> > > > ones whether they be malefic or benefic.

> > > > rishi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > > "Rohiniranjan"

> > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > The pure states seen in horoscopes, though

> not

> > > always --

> > > > > Benefics that are strong but in dushthanas

> > > > > Benefics that are strong and in good sthanas

> > > > > Malefics that are strong and in dushthanas

> > > > > Malefics that are strong and in good sthanas

> > > > >

> > > > > This thread is not about starting a

> discussion

> > > and blood-bath

> > > > about

> > > > > what is a malefic or what is a benefic or

> what

> > > is a dusthana vs a

> > > > > susthana!

> > > > >

> > > > > Unless there is confusion about that first

> step?

> > > > >

> > > > > Please contribute your light and

> understanding

> > > so far.

> > > > >

> > > > > RR

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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You are absolutely right sir!

 

-- Shani in tula starts with tula but then moves to scorpio, saggi,

makar, kumbha, meena and when it turns 'bees' in mesha the BISH

awaits it!

 

Or maybe awaits for the *nativity* to arrive!

 

Rishiji, you may have identified a crucial point in contemporary

jyotish that both of us await to hear from the wise and experienced

on this forum over the next little while...

 

RR

 

 

 

, rishi shukla

<rishi_2000in wrote:

>

> It is interesting, Sir, that Shani at its highest

> exaltation point goes and gets in deep debility in

> navamsha. Why should this be the design of nature or

> Jyotisha?

>

> Well, the modern techology has dome away with manual

> gears but the gears have not really gone away, have

> they?

>

> I do not have any classical support or backup for it

> in Jyotish but the classical stationary station of

> Tropical astrology has its relevance.

> rishi

>

>

> --- Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> > Who are they?

> >

> > Us really!

> >

> > Third person is the myth that only exists in the

> > fantasy of the first

> > person when S/he is talking to the non-existent

> > second person

> > (grammatically speaking!)!

> >

> > I like how you introduce the 'gear box'!

> >

> > Forward-backward!

> >

> > Please tell us more...

> >

> > , rishi

> > shukla

> > <rishi_2000in@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Shani at around 20 Tula, then the rest of Tula.

> > > Shani in Kumbha in Mooltrikona

> > > Shani in rest of Kumbha and Makar

> > >

> > > And if I may add, Shani just about to enter/leave

> > > retrograde status particularly in Mooltrikona or

> > > exaltation.

> > >

> > > Who are they?

> > > rishi

> > >

> > > --- Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > What is strong in that scheme of things/

> > > >

> > > > Shani in Tula?

> > > > Shani in Makar??

> > > > Shani in Kumbha???

> > > > Shani in all of Kumbha????

> > > >

> > > > Even if they may not -- YOU MUST ask those

> > > > questions!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > > > "rishi_2000in"

> > > > <rishi_2000in@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Strong grahas , in my opinion, preferable to

> > > > weaker or afflicted

> > > > > ones whether they be malefic or benefic.

> > > > > rishi

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ,

> > > > "Rohiniranjan"

> > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The pure states seen in horoscopes, though

> > not

> > > > always --

> > > > > > Benefics that are strong but in dushthanas

> > > > > > Benefics that are strong and in good sthanas

> > > > > > Malefics that are strong and in dushthanas

> > > > > > Malefics that are strong and in good sthanas

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This thread is not about starting a

> > discussion

> > > > and blood-bath

> > > > > about

> > > > > > what is a malefic or what is a benefic or

> > what

> > > > is a dusthana vs a

> > > > > > susthana!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Unless there is confusion about that first

> > step?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please contribute your light and

> > understanding

> > > > so far.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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