Strong Malefics are a blessing? No? Yes? 11/11 in tatvas?

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Dear RR, Rishi,

 

We cant' guess what the Sages had in mind over the scheme of Neechatva slots of various Grahas, but some wild guessing can be all of them are Neecha in their Enemy sign so Sani is Neecha in its bitter Enemy sign so is Sun the major planets again seem to be Neccha in like signs say Guru in large Graha like sani a nutral one rest are more in their enemy sign sukbra, Budha again in Euqals and a mutual exchange as well

Guru_Kuja also.

probably we can use 2 transparent disks 1 for Uccha and other for Neecha and try to move them at their reverse igame, must try this out myself sometime.

 

but THAT IS MORE FOR THE LIGHTER SIDE , WE CAN GET THE BETTER GLIMPSE IN THEIR TATVAS and Adhidevata concepts vis-a- the scriptural stories, literature I guess someone good in those can pl explain them.

 

I feel it is there as the San-Ravi enulity is from there isnt it?

 

Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: You are absolutely right sir!

 

-- Shani in tula starts with tula but then moves to scorpio, saggi,

makar, kumbha, meena and when it turns 'bees' in mesha the BISH

awaits it!

 

Or maybe awaits for the *nativity* to arrive!

 

Rishiji, you may have identified a crucial point in contemporary

jyotish that both of us await to hear from the wise and experienced

on this forum over the next little while...

 

RR

 

, rishi shukla

<rishi_2000in wrote:

>

> It is interesting, Sir, that Shani at its highest

> exaltation point goes and gets in deep debility in

> navamsha. Why should this be the design of nature or

> Jyotisha?

>

> Well, the modern techology has dome away with manual

> gears but the gears have not really gone away, have

> they?

>

> I do not have any classical support or backup for it

> in Jyotish but the classical stationary station of

> Tropical astrology has its relevance.

> rishi

>

>

> --- Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> > Who are they?

> >

> > Us really!

> >

> > Third person is the myth that only exists in the

> > fantasy of the first

> > person when S/he is talking to the non-existent

> > second person

> > (grammatically speaking!)!

> >

> > I like how you introduce the 'gear box'!

> >

> > Forward-backward!

> >

> > Please tell us more...

> >

> > , rishi

> > shukla

> > <rishi_2000in@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Shani at around 20 Tula, then the rest of Tula.

> > > Shani in Kumbha in Mooltrikona

> > > Shani in rest of Kumbha and Makar

> > >

> > > And if I may add, Shani just about to enter/leave

> > > retrograde status particularly in Mooltrikona or

> > > exaltation.

> > >

> > > Who are they?

> > > rishi

> > >

> > > --- Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > What is strong in that scheme of things/

> > > >

> > > > Shani in Tula?

> > > > Shani in Makar??

> > > > Shani in Kumbha???

> > > > Shani in all of Kumbha????

> > > >

> > > > Even if they may not -- YOU MUST ask those

> > > > questions!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > > > "rishi_2000in"

> > > > <rishi_2000in@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Strong grahas , in my opinion, preferable to

> > > > weaker or afflicted

> > > > > ones whether they be malefic or benefic.

> > > > > rishi

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ,

> > > > "Rohiniranjan"

> > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The pure states seen in horoscopes, though

> > not

> > > > always --

> > > > > > Benefics that are strong but in dushthanas

> > > > > > Benefics that are strong and in good sthanas

> > > > > > Malefics that are strong and in dushthanas

> > > > > > Malefics that are strong and in good sthanas

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This thread is not about starting a

> > discussion

> > > > and blood-bath

> > > > > about

> > > > > > what is a malefic or what is a benefic or

> > what

> > > > is a dusthana vs a

> > > > > > susthana!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Unless there is confusion about that first

> > step?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please contribute your light and

> > understanding

> > > > so far.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear RR, Rishi,

 

We can't guess what the Sages had in mind over the scheme of Neechatva slots of various Grahas, but some wild guessing can be all of them are Neecha in their Enemy sign so Sani is Neecha in its bitter Enemy sign so is Sun the major planets again seem to be Neccha in like signs say Guru in large Graha like sani a nutral one rest are more in their enemy sign sukbra, Budha again in Euqals and a mutual exchange as well

Guru_Kuja also.

probably we can use 2 transparent disks 1 for Uccha and other for Neecha and try to move them at their reverse IMAGE, must try this out myself sometime.

 

but THAT IS MORE FOR THE LIGHTER SIDE , WE CAN GET THE BETTER GLIMPSE IN THEIR TATVAS and Adhidevata concepts vis-a- the scriptural stories, literature I guess someone good in those can pl explain them.

 

I feel it is there as the San-Ravi enulity is from there isnt it?

 

Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: You are absolutely right sir!

 

-- Shani in tula starts with tula but then moves to scorpio, saggi,

makar, kumbha, meena and when it turns 'bees' in mesha the BISH

awaits it!

 

Or maybe awaits for the *nativity* to arrive!

 

Rishiji, you may have identified a crucial point in contemporary

jyotish that both of us await to hear from the wise and experienced

on this forum over the next little while...

 

RR

 

, rishi shukla

<rishi_2000in wrote:

>

> It is interesting, Sir, that Shani at its highest

> exaltation point goes and gets in deep debility in

> navamsha. Why should this be the design of nature or

> Jyotisha?

>

> Well, the modern techology has dome away with manual

> gears but the gears have not really gone away, have

> they?

>

> I do not have any classical support or backup for it

> in Jyotish but the classical stationary station of

> Tropical astrology has its relevance.

> rishi

>

>

> --- Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> > Who are they?

> >

> > Us really!

> >

> > Third person is the myth that only exists in the

> > fantasy of the first

> > person when S/he is talking to the non-existent

> > second person

> > (grammatically speaking!)!

> >

> > I like how you introduce the 'gear box'!

> >

> > Forward-backward!

> >

> > Please tell us more...

> >

> > , rishi

> > shukla

> > <rishi_2000in@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Shani at around 20 Tula, then the rest of Tula.

> > > Shani in Kumbha in Mooltrikona

> > > Shani in rest of Kumbha and Makar

> > >

> > > And if I may add, Shani just about to enter/leave

> > > retrograde status particularly in Mooltrikona or

> > > exaltation.

> > >

> > > Who are they?

> > > rishi

> > >

> > > --- Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > What is strong in that scheme of things/

> > > >

> > > > Shani in Tula?

> > > > Shani in Makar??

> > > > Shani in Kumbha???

> > > > Shani in all of Kumbha????

> > > >

> > > > Even if they may not -- YOU MUST ask those

> > > > questions!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > > > "rishi_2000in"

> > > > <rishi_2000in@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Strong grahas , in my opinion, preferable to

> > > > weaker or afflicted

> > > > > ones whether they be malefic or benefic.

> > > > > rishi

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ,

> > > > "Rohiniranjan"

> > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The pure states seen in horoscopes, though

> > not

> > > > always --

> > > > > > Benefics that are strong but in dushthanas

> > > > > > Benefics that are strong and in good sthanas

> > > > > > Malefics that are strong and in dushthanas

> > > > > > Malefics that are strong and in good sthanas

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This thread is not about starting a

> > discussion

> > > > and blood-bath

> > > > > about

> > > > > > what is a malefic or what is a benefic or

> > what

> > > > is a dusthana vs a

> > > > > > susthana!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Unless there is confusion about that first

> > step?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please contribute your light and

> > understanding

> > > > so far.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

________

> > ______________

> > >

> > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail

> > beta.

> > > http://new.mail.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

________

______________

>

> Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta.

> http://new.mail.

>

 

 

 

 

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Dear RR, Rishi,

 

We can't guess what the Sages had in mind over the scheme of Neechatva slots of various Grahas, but some wild guessing can be all of them are Neecha in their Enemy sign so Sani is Neecha in its bitter Enemy sign so is Sun the major planets again seem to be Neccha in like signs say Guru in large Graha like sani a nutral one rest are more in their enemy sign sukbra, Budha again in Euqals and a mutual exchange as well

Guru_Kuja also.

probably we can use 2 transparent disks 1 for Uccha and other for Neecha and try to move them at their reverse IMAGE, must try this out myself sometime.

 

but THAT IS MORE FOR THE LIGHTER SIDE , WE CAN GET THE BETTER GLIMPSE IN THEIR TATVAS and Adhidevata concepts vis-a- the scriptural stories, literature I guess someone good in those can pl explain them.

 

I feel it is there as the San-Ravi enulity is from there isnt it?

 

Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: You are absolutely right sir!

 

-- Shani in tula starts with tula but then moves to scorpio, saggi,

makar, kumbha, meena and when it turns 'bees' in mesha the BISH

awaits it!

 

Or maybe awaits for the *nativity* to arrive!

 

Rishiji, you may have identified a crucial point in contemporary

jyotish that both of us await to hear from the wise and experienced

on this forum over the next little while...

 

RR

 

, rishi shukla

<rishi_2000in wrote:

>

> It is interesting, Sir, that Shani at its highest

> exaltation point goes and gets in deep debility in

> navamsha. Why should this be the design of nature or

> Jyotisha?

>

> Well, the modern techology has dome away with manual

> gears but the gears have not really gone away, have

> they?

>

> I do not have any classical support or backup for it

> in Jyotish but the classical stationary station of

> Tropical astrology has its relevance.

> rishi

>

>

> --- Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> > Who are they?

> >

> > Us really!

> >

> > Third person is the myth that only exists in the

> > fantasy of the first

> > person when S/he is talking to the non-existent

> > second person

> > (grammatically speaking!)!

> >

> > I like how you introduce the 'gear box'!

> >

> > Forward-backward!

> >

> > Please tell us more...

> >

> > , rishi

> > shukla

> > <rishi_2000in@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Shani at around 20 Tula, then the rest of Tula.

> > > Shani in Kumbha in Mooltrikona

> > > Shani in rest of Kumbha and Makar

> > >

> > > And if I may add, Shani just about to enter/leave

> > > retrograde status particularly in Mooltrikona or

> > > exaltation.

> > >

> > > Who are they?

> > > rishi

> > >

> > > --- Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > What is strong in that scheme of things/

> > > >

> > > > Shani in Tula?

> > > > Shani in Makar??

> > > > Shani in Kumbha???

> > > > Shani in all of Kumbha????

> > > >

> > > > Even if they may not -- YOU MUST ask those

> > > > questions!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > > > "rishi_2000in"

> > > > <rishi_2000in@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Strong grahas , in my opinion, preferable to

> > > > weaker or afflicted

> > > > > ones whether they be malefic or benefic.

> > > > > rishi

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ,

> > > > "Rohiniranjan"

> > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The pure states seen in horoscopes, though

> > not

> > > > always --

> > > > > > Benefics that are strong but in dushthanas

> > > > > > Benefics that are strong and in good sthanas

> > > > > > Malefics that are strong and in dushthanas

> > > > > > Malefics that are strong and in good sthanas

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This thread is not about starting a

> > discussion

> > > > and blood-bath

> > > > > about

> > > > > > what is a malefic or what is a benefic or

> > what

> > > > is a dusthana vs a

> > > > > > susthana!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Unless there is confusion about that first

> > step?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please contribute your light and

> > understanding

> > > > so far.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

________

> > ______________

> > >

> > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail

> > beta.

> > > http://new.mail.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

________

______________

>

> Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta.

> http://new.mail.

>

 

 

 

 

Prashantkumar G B

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off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail or phone.

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Personal ID astro.prashantkumar

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