Guest guest Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Dear Mrs. Wendy, In Placidus as you must be aware they take the normally understood mid-point as starting point. So since the Ascendant Cusp starts at Leo 15.52 ,and Mars is in leo 6.19 and Rahu is in Leo 6.41 they both are thus in 12th Cusp technically about 8-9degrees away from the starting of first cusp. Well, My teachers have always taught me to read the chart from the Bhava Chalit, and co-incidentally from 2 different schools of learning both instructed us to do so,from the Placiddus system as provocated best among all, by both.Though one school was the Vedic one and the other Nakshatra based. Thats the only reason for doing so. Because what Gurus teach we normally accept as true then later on experience confirms us the same in time to come. Of course Rahu and Mars are both in Ascendant in my Chart,ie,first house, but move to the 12th Bhava in cuspal Chart,I have been told that I would get results of 12th house placement by these Planets though they are placed in sign Leo. Mars MahaDasha just getting over, though in start gave me good money (Extraordinary Wealth)but now has again reduced me to the prior position (Ordinarily wealthy), taken me out of family business due to differences with own Father and brother (Mars is Karaka for brother you Know),am now restricted to a 200sq feet area of activity , domestic happiness is practically nil at home (4th House Scorpio).Am staying seated on cushion most part of the day doing my work with unnecessary physical rest to body and very much less of physical activity. (12th house ).So in all I have noticed more of 12th house effects in Mars case and as Rahu was in close conjunction with Mars, am not so happy or looking forward in welcoming the Rahu MahaDasha. At the same time, I keep a open mind and windows. The system Placidus has come in Vogue since few decades only, and before that too people were predicting superbly with any system in hand. The skill lies in the hand of the barber and not so much in the sharpness of the scissor. Any good barber can make the face look better even if he is given a blunt scissor. Thus personally speaking any system is good for a good astrologer is what I feel and respect all such people and whatever tools they may be using. Therefore, on the face of it, no stong reasons for reading Mars and Rahu as in 12th. Kindly ignore my approaches. Your approaches are respected and fine by me.I do await your valued comments since you have shown interest, otherwise I would not have troubled You. Best Wishes, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar, > > I'm sure you must have very strong reasons for assigning Rahu to > 12th...could you share these reasons with us :-) > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish > <jyotish-vidya> > Thursday, November 16, 2006 12:54 AM > Re: factors for hospitalization > > > Dear Wendyji, > > Sorry I was away and just came.I get 12th Bhava in Cuspal Chart > (Not in Raasi Chart)and Jan Dasha start by using Placidus system and > KP Ayanamsha. > > Thanks for taking so much pains and trouble to see my chart and > attempts to comfort me. > I do value and appreciate this gesture of Yours. > But whatever system You are comfortable with I would always value > whatever You say. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > Thank you for birth details. Using PL software and Lahiri ayanamsha > I get > > lagna at 15.42.16 Leo. This gives Rahu in same bhava in all three > charts > > i.e. Rasi, Bhava Equal, and Bhava Sripati?? > > > > I also have Rahu dasa commencing 4 Feb 2007 (not 14 Jan)? > > > > Best Wishes, > > Mrs. Wendy > > http://JyotishVidya.com > > jyotish-vidya > > ___ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Dear Bhaskar, Having begun my astrological journey in Western astrology, I'm familiar with the Placidus system of houses. Quite obviously, as you use this system along with Krishnamurti ayanamsha, your leaning is towards KP astrology. It would not be correct therefore for me to divert your course by arguing the pros and cons of KP versus Parashara :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> <jyotish-vidya> Thursday, November 16, 2006 3:59 PM Re: Rahi in 12th: Bhaskar Dear Mrs. Wendy, In Placidus as you must be aware they take the normally understood mid-point as starting point. So since the Ascendant Cusp starts at Leo 15.52 ,and Mars is in leo 6.19 and Rahu is in Leo 6.41 they both are thus in 12th Cusp technically about 8-9degrees away from the starting of first cusp. Well, My teachers have always taught me to read the chart from the Bhava Chalit, and co-incidentally from 2 different schools of learning both instructed us to do so,from the Placiddus system as provocated best among all, by both.Though one school was the Vedic one and the other Nakshatra based. Thats the only reason for doing so. Because what Gurus teach we normally accept as true then later on experience confirms us the same in time to come. Of course Rahu and Mars are both in Ascendant in my Chart,ie,first house, but move to the 12th Bhava in cuspal Chart,I have been told that I would get results of 12th house placement by these Planets though they are placed in sign Leo. Mars MahaDasha just getting over, though in start gave me good money (Extraordinary Wealth)but now has again reduced me to the prior position (Ordinarily wealthy), taken me out of family business due to differences with own Father and brother (Mars is Karaka for brother you Know),am now restricted to a 200sq feet area of activity , domestic happiness is practically nil at home (4th House Scorpio).Am staying seated on cushion most part of the day doing my work with unnecessary physical rest to body and very much less of physical activity. (12th house ).So in all I have noticed more of 12th house effects in Mars case and as Rahu was in close conjunction with Mars, am not so happy or looking forward in welcoming the Rahu MahaDasha. At the same time, I keep a open mind and windows. The system Placidus has come in Vogue since few decades only, and before that too people were predicting superbly with any system in hand. The skill lies in the hand of the barber and not so much in the sharpness of the scissor. Any good barber can make the face look better even if he is given a blunt scissor. Thus personally speaking any system is good for a good astrologer is what I feel and respect all such people and whatever tools they may be using. Therefore, on the face of it, no stong reasons for reading Mars and Rahu as in 12th. Kindly ignore my approaches. Your approaches are respected and fine by me.I do await your valued comments since you have shown interest, otherwise I would not have troubled You. Best Wishes, Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Dear Mrs. Wendy, I would not be diverted from any course, as KP is the cream and Parashar is the Milk. So ultimately all in one and one in all. You.are right my leaning is towards KP system, which is also part of the main vedic system since time immemorial. As long as the truth comes out, thats all matters in the end, whichever way or means we approach the end. Best Wishes, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar, > > Having begun my astrological journey in Western astrology, I'm familiar with > the Placidus system of houses. Quite obviously, as you use this system along > with Krishnamurti ayanamsha, your leaning is towards KP astrology. > > It would not be correct therefore for me to divert your course by arguing > the pros and cons of KP versus Parashara :-) > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish > <jyotish-vidya> > Thursday, November 16, 2006 3:59 PM > Re: Rahi in 12th: Bhaskar > > > Dear Mrs. Wendy, > > In Placidus as you must be aware they take the normally understood > mid-point as starting point. So since the Ascendant Cusp starts at Leo > 15.52 ,and Mars is in leo 6.19 and Rahu is in Leo 6.41 they both are > thus in 12th Cusp technically about 8-9degrees away from the starting > of first cusp. > > Well, My teachers have always taught me to read the chart from the > Bhava Chalit, and co-incidentally from 2 different schools of > learning both instructed us to do so,from the Placiddus system > as provocated best among all, by both.Though one school was the Vedic > one and the other Nakshatra based. Thats the only reason for doing so. > Because what Gurus teach we normally accept as true then later on > experience confirms us the same in time to come. > Of course Rahu and Mars are both in Ascendant in my Chart,ie,first > house, but move to the 12th Bhava in cuspal Chart,I have been told > that I would get results of 12th house placement by these Planets > though they are placed in sign Leo. Mars MahaDasha just getting over, > though in start gave me good money (Extraordinary Wealth)but now > has again reduced me to the prior position (Ordinarily wealthy), > taken me out of family business due to differences with own Father > and brother (Mars is Karaka for brother you Know),am now > restricted to a 200sq feet area of activity , domestic happiness > is practically nil at home (4th House Scorpio).Am staying seated on > cushion most part of the day doing my work with unnecessary physical > rest to body and very much less of physical activity. (12th > house ).So in all I have noticed more of 12th house effects in Mars > case and as Rahu was in close conjunction with Mars, am not so happy > or looking forward in welcoming the Rahu MahaDasha. > > At the same time, I keep a open mind and windows. > The system Placidus has come in Vogue since few decades only, and > before that too people were predicting superbly with any system > in hand. The skill lies in the hand of the barber and not so much in > the sharpness of the scissor. Any good barber can make the > face look better even if he is given a blunt scissor. Thus > personally speaking any system is good for a good astrologer is what > I feel and respect all such people and whatever tools they may > be using. > > Therefore, on the face of it, no stong reasons for reading > Mars and Rahu as in 12th. Kindly ignore my approaches. > Your approaches are respected and fine by me.I do await > your valued comments since you have shown interest, > otherwise I would not have troubled You. > > Best Wishes, > Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Dear Bhaskar, //Mars MahaDasha just getting over, though in start gave me good money (Extraordinary Wealth)but now has again reduced me to the prior position (Ordinarily wealthy),taken me out of family business due to differences with own Father and brother... ....domestic happiness is practically nil at home // You should consider the influence of 12th lord Moon perhaps...karaka for 4th (aspecting SU/ME) who's dispositor is debilitated and conjunct Saturn in 6th etc.? Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> <jyotish-vidya> Thursday, November 16, 2006 3:59 PM Re: Rahi in 12th: Bhaskar Dear Mrs. Wendy, In Placidus as you must be aware they take the normally understood mid-point as starting point. So since the Ascendant Cusp starts at Leo 15.52 ,and Mars is in leo 6.19 and Rahu is in Leo 6.41 they both are thus in 12th Cusp technically about 8-9degrees away from the starting of first cusp. Well, My teachers have always taught me to read the chart from the Bhava Chalit, and co-incidentally from 2 different schools of learning both instructed us to do so,from the Placiddus system as provocated best among all, by both.Though one school was the Vedic one and the other Nakshatra based. Thats the only reason for doing so. Because what Gurus teach we normally accept as true then later on experience confirms us the same in time to come. Of course Rahu and Mars are both in Ascendant in my Chart,ie,first house, but move to the 12th Bhava in cuspal Chart,I have been told that I would get results of 12th house placement by these Planets though they are placed in sign Leo. Mars MahaDasha just getting over, though in start gave me good money (Extraordinary Wealth)but now has again reduced me to the prior position (Ordinarily wealthy), taken me out of family business due to differences with own Father and brother (Mars is Karaka for brother you Know),am now restricted to a 200sq feet area of activity , domestic happiness is practically nil at home (4th House Scorpio).Am staying seated on cushion most part of the day doing my work with unnecessary physical rest to body and very much less of physical activity. (12th house ).So in all I have noticed more of 12th house effects in Mars case and as Rahu was in close conjunction with Mars, am not so happy or looking forward in welcoming the Rahu MahaDasha. At the same time, I keep a open mind and windows. The system Placidus has come in Vogue since few decades only, and before that too people were predicting superbly with any system in hand. The skill lies in the hand of the barber and not so much in the sharpness of the scissor. Any good barber can make the face look better even if he is given a blunt scissor. Thus personally speaking any system is good for a good astrologer is what I feel and respect all such people and whatever tools they may be using. Therefore, on the face of it, no stong reasons for reading Mars and Rahu as in 12th. Kindly ignore my approaches. Your approaches are respected and fine by me.I do await your valued comments since you have shown interest, otherwise I would not have troubled You. Best Wishes, Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Dear Bhaskar, //You.are right my leaning is towards KP system, which is also part of the main vedic system since time immemorial.// KS Krishnamurti studied both Western and Hindu astrology and, as he was disappointed in both, he devised a new system by combining the two. This (KP) system, although employing many of the basic principles of Hindu astrology (and much of the Western system) is, plain and simply, a new system derived by Krishnamurti himself and most certainly has not been part of the main Vedic system since time immemorial (as you put it). Such statements are misleading to those less experienced in the basic fundamentals of Vedic astrology. Please don't misunderstand, Bhaskar, I'm not trying to divert your course nor to convince you of anything, it's up to you entirely which system you follow. However, as you know, the focus here is primarily on Parashara system. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> <jyotish-vidya> Thursday, November 16, 2006 5:54 PM Re: Rahi in 12th: Bhaskar Dear Mrs. Wendy, I would not be diverted from any course, as KP is the cream and Parashar is the Milk. So ultimately all in one and one in all. You.are right my leaning is towards KP system, which is also part of the main vedic system since time immemorial. As long as the truth comes out, thats all matters in the end, whichever way or means we approach the end. Best Wishes, Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Dear Mrs.Wendy, After knowing You through your wise and meaningful posts I would and should never misunderstand You. I know You are a generous hearted person who would live and let live. I agree certain statements when not put in entirety can be misleading to at least new comers. When I meant that KP is related to basic Vedic,I meant only regarding the Nakshatra part,which most of us have been also referring to when talking about planet behaviours in this Forum too. So we are all practising KP too in part without actually referring to the system. But again Nakshatras were used as I said from time immemorial which even Cheiro (Palmist) has accepted. The division of the Zodiac divided by 12 has come later on.Of course then we also know that Placiudus chart and division is the gift of Western so no question of KP being totally Vedic. I know here the focus is on Parashar, and You will appreciate that I have kept this point in mind and never used uptil today any terms like sublord, subsublord etc. which would be alien in terminology of Parashar so to say. In fact in my last mail too I had written something about 2 Dashas of Planets in conjunctions with same Nakshatra Lords and where the difference lies. But then I remembered that it should not be proper to put it here so I cut and pasted in Drafts in Outlook Express and did not post that part..Because I am not here to propogate any system neither KP nor Parashar, but just to learn from the healthy discussions here and be a part of this auspicious group and in company of your august comforting presence here. Mrs.Wendy I hope I would never give a chance to You too to misunderstand me. I respect You, Your Forum and the content. Thank You for being patient with me. Best wishes, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar, > > //You.are right my leaning is towards KP system, which is > also part of the main vedic system since time immemorial.// > > KS Krishnamurti studied both Western and Hindu astrology and, as he was > disappointed in both, he devised a new system by combining the two. This > (KP) system, although employing many of the basic principles of Hindu > astrology (and much of the Western system) is, plain and simply, a new > system derived by Krishnamurti himself and most certainly has not been part > of the main Vedic system since time immemorial (as you put it). Such > statements are misleading to those less experienced in the basic > fundamentals of Vedic astrology. > > Please don't misunderstand, Bhaskar, I'm not trying to divert your course > nor to convince you of anything, it's up to you entirely which system you > follow. However, as you know, the focus here is primarily on Parashara > system. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish > <jyotish-vidya> > Thursday, November 16, 2006 5:54 PM > Re: Rahi in 12th: Bhaskar > > > Dear Mrs. Wendy, > > I would not be diverted from any course, as KP is the cream and > Parashar is the Milk. So ultimately all in one and one in all. > > You.are right my leaning is towards KP system, which is > also part of the main vedic system since time immemorial. > > As long as the truth comes out, thats all matters in the end, > whichever way or means we approach the end. > > Best Wishes, > Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Dear Bhaskar, //Mrs.Wendy I hope I would never give a chance to You too to misunderstand me. I respect You, Your Forum and the content. Thank You for being patient with me.// All is well Bhaskar:-) We can pick up our conversation later, hopefully...after I've shaken the cobwebs out of my head (late getting up today and still quite foggy). Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> <jyotish-vidya> Thursday, November 16, 2006 8:41 PM Re: Rahi in 12th: Bhaskar Dear Mrs.Wendy, After knowing You through your wise and meaningful posts I would and should never misunderstand You. I know You are a generous hearted person who would live and let live. I agree certain statements when not put in entirety can be misleading to at least new comers. When I meant that KP is related to basic Vedic,I meant only regarding the Nakshatra part,which most of us have been also referring to when talking about planet behaviours in this Forum too. So we are all practising KP too in part without actually referring to the system. But again Nakshatras were used as I said from time immemorial which even Cheiro (Palmist) has accepted. The division of the Zodiac divided by 12 has come later on.Of course then we also know that Placiudus chart and division is the gift of Western so no question of KP being totally Vedic. I know here the focus is on Parashar, and You will appreciate that I have kept this point in mind and never used uptil today any terms like sublord, subsublord etc. which would be alien in terminology of Parashar so to say. In fact in my last mail too I had written something about 2 Dashas of Planets in conjunctions with same Nakshatra Lords and where the difference lies. But then I remembered that it should not be proper to put it here so I cut and pasted in Drafts in Outlook Express and did not post that part..Because I am not here to propogate any system neither KP nor Parashar, but just to learn from the healthy discussions here and be a part of this auspicious group and in company of your august comforting presence here. Mrs.Wendy I hope I would never give a chance to You too to misunderstand me. I respect You, Your Forum and the content. Thank You for being patient with me. Best wishes, Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2006 Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 Dear Bhaskar, //Mars MahaDasha just getting over, though in start gave me good money (Extraordinary Wealth)but now has again reduced me to the prior position (Ordinarily wealthy), taken me out of family business due to differences with own Father and brother (Mars is Karaka for brother you Know),am now restricted to a 200sq feet area of activity,// For you, YogaKaraka Mars occupies lagna in sign of Leo (along with Rahu). As we know, during the dasa of (any) planet, it's dispositor will dictate events to a very large extent. Consider therefore Mars' dispositor (lagnesh Sun) conjunct 2nd/11th lord Mercury in 11th house of gains. Initially you gained significant wealth but now have lost what you gained, returning your wealth to its previous level. This you say is because, according to KP, Mars and Rahu are in 12th? According to Rasi however this is due to the aspect of 12th lord Moon on Sun and Mercury. //domestic happiness is practically nil at home (4th House Scorpio).// As family life generally (own and extended family) is governed by 2nd house, domestic harmony, harmony within our family is seen from this house, and, again, we see the effects of 12th lord Moon on both 2nd lord Mercury and lagnesh Sun...Mercury BTW is combust. You may remember, Bhaskar, one of the members who (earlier on) took a little swipe at you, accusing you of being too emotional...a rather unprofessional attitude unbefitting an astrologer BTW as no astrologer should EVER sit in judgement of another. However, the aspect of 12th lord Moon on lagnesh etc is an indication of a strong emotional nature. Moon occupies your 5th house (inclinations of the mind) so naturally the mind is influenced very much by your emotions. This is not a condemnation, Bhaskar. I have Mars in 5th and many judge me as being too forceful. My own beloved son (David) has 8th lord Moon in lagna and he's extremely volatile (emotionally)...we are all wonderfully unique in our own way, is this not so? I write this just to show that it's not necessary to place MA/RA in 12th in order to justify the outcome of this Mars dasa, it can be seen clearly from Rasi :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> <jyotish-vidya> Thursday, November 16, 2006 3:59 PM Re: Rahi in 12th: Bhaskar Dear Mrs. Wendy, In Placidus as you must be aware they take the normally understood mid-point as starting point. So since the Ascendant Cusp starts at Leo 15.52 ,and Mars is in leo 6.19 and Rahu is in Leo 6.41 they both are thus in 12th Cusp technically about 8-9degrees away from the starting of first cusp. Well, My teachers have always taught me to read the chart from the Bhava Chalit, and co-incidentally from 2 different schools of learning both instructed us to do so,from the Placiddus system as provocated best among all, by both.Though one school was the Vedic one and the other Nakshatra based. Thats the only reason for doing so. Because what Gurus teach we normally accept as true then later on experience confirms us the same in time to come. Of course Rahu and Mars are both in Ascendant in my Chart,ie,first house, but move to the 12th Bhava in cuspal Chart,I have been told that I would get results of 12th house placement by these Planets though they are placed in sign Leo. Mars MahaDasha just getting over, though in start gave me good money (Extraordinary Wealth)but now has again reduced me to the prior position (Ordinarily wealthy), taken me out of family business due to differences with own Father and brother (Mars is Karaka for brother you Know),am now restricted to a 200sq feet area of activity , domestic happiness is practically nil at home (4th House Scorpio).Am staying seated on cushion most part of the day doing my work with unnecessary physical rest to body and very much less of physical activity. (12th house ).So in all I have noticed more of 12th house effects in Mars case and as Rahu was in close conjunction with Mars, am not so happy or looking forward in welcoming the Rahu MahaDasha. At the same time, I keep a open mind and windows. The system Placidus has come in Vogue since few decades only, and before that too people were predicting superbly with any system in hand. The skill lies in the hand of the barber and not so much in the sharpness of the scissor. Any good barber can make the face look better even if he is given a blunt scissor. Thus personally speaking any system is good for a good astrologer is what I feel and respect all such people and whatever tools they may be using. Therefore, on the face of it, no stong reasons for reading Mars and Rahu as in 12th. Kindly ignore my approaches. Your approaches are respected and fine by me.I do await your valued comments since you have shown interest, otherwise I would not have troubled You. Best Wishes, Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2006 Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 Dear Mrs.Wendy, That was so beautifully explained by You in your usual style of logical presentation, that is why I always value your comments so much. I agree with all you have said and let me confess that at times (Most of the times) ,I get results more better by using the Parashari principles rather than the KP ones. That is why I am not averse to any but welcome and ingrained all in me, with faithfulness to all ways of approach.Unless for pinpointing and confirming the timings and effects at criticical issues I take help from the other system otherwise I am all for Parashar which is the Parent one for me. Since You have already done the study part may I request You to please enumerate what The Rahu Dasha will have in store for me. And You know that I believe in Your judgement and value your writings. Also you may freely tell me any remedies to make the quality of the Dasha better and more favourable towards me. Yours sincerely, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar, > > //Mars MahaDasha just getting over, though in start gave me good money > (Extraordinary Wealth)but now has again reduced me to the prior position > (Ordinarily wealthy), taken me out of family business due to differences > with own Father and brother (Mars is Karaka for brother you Know),am now > restricted to a 200sq feet area of activity,// > > For you, YogaKaraka Mars occupies lagna in sign of Leo (along with Rahu). As > we know, during the dasa of (any) planet, it's dispositor will dictate > events to a very large extent. Consider therefore Mars' dispositor (lagnesh > Sun) conjunct 2nd/11th lord Mercury in 11th house of gains. Initially you > gained significant wealth but now have lost what you gained, returning your > wealth to its previous level. This you say is because, according to KP, Mars > and Rahu are in 12th? According to Rasi however this is due to the aspect of > 12th lord Moon on Sun and Mercury. > > //domestic happiness is practically nil at home (4th House Scorpio).// > > As family life generally (own and extended family) is governed by 2nd house, > domestic harmony, harmony within our family is seen from this house, and, > again, we see the effects of 12th lord Moon on both 2nd lord Mercury and > lagnesh Sun...Mercury BTW is combust. > > You may remember, Bhaskar, one of the members who (earlier on) took a little > swipe at you, accusing you of being too emotional...a rather unprofessional > attitude unbefitting an astrologer BTW as no astrologer should EVER sit in > judgement of another. However, the aspect of 12th lord Moon on lagnesh etc > is an indication of a strong emotional nature. Moon occupies your 5th house > (inclinations of the mind) so naturally the mind is influenced very much by > your emotions. This is not a condemnation, Bhaskar. I have Mars in 5th and > many judge me as being too forceful. My own beloved son (David) has 8th lord > Moon in lagna and he's extremely volatile (emotionally)...we are all > wonderfully unique in our own way, is this not so? > > I write this just to show that it's not necessary to place MA/RA in 12th in > order to justify the outcome of this Mars dasa, it can be seen clearly from > Rasi :-) > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish > <jyotish-vidya> > Thursday, November 16, 2006 3:59 PM > Re: Rahi in 12th: Bhaskar > > > Dear Mrs. Wendy, > > In Placidus as you must be aware they take the normally understood > mid-point as starting point. So since the Ascendant Cusp starts at Leo > 15.52 ,and Mars is in leo 6.19 and Rahu is in Leo 6.41 they both are > thus in 12th Cusp technically about 8-9degrees away from the starting > of first cusp. > > Well, My teachers have always taught me to read the chart from the > Bhava Chalit, and co-incidentally from 2 different schools of > learning both instructed us to do so,from the Placiddus system > as provocated best among all, by both.Though one school was the Vedic > one and the other Nakshatra based. Thats the only reason for doing so. > Because what Gurus teach we normally accept as true then later on > experience confirms us the same in time to come. > Of course Rahu and Mars are both in Ascendant in my Chart,ie,first > house, but move to the 12th Bhava in cuspal Chart,I have been told > that I would get results of 12th house placement by these Planets > though they are placed in sign Leo. Mars MahaDasha just getting over, > though in start gave me good money (Extraordinary Wealth)but now > has again reduced me to the prior position (Ordinarily wealthy), > taken me out of family business due to differences with own Father > and brother (Mars is Karaka for brother you Know),am now > restricted to a 200sq feet area of activity , domestic happiness > is practically nil at home (4th House Scorpio).Am staying seated on > cushion most part of the day doing my work with unnecessary physical > rest to body and very much less of physical activity. (12th > house ).So in all I have noticed more of 12th house effects in Mars > case and as Rahu was in close conjunction with Mars, am not so happy > or looking forward in welcoming the Rahu MahaDasha. > > At the same time, I keep a open mind and windows. > The system Placidus has come in Vogue since few decades only, and > before that too people were predicting superbly with any system > in hand. The skill lies in the hand of the barber and not so much in > the sharpness of the scissor. Any good barber can make the > face look better even if he is given a blunt scissor. Thus > personally speaking any system is good for a good astrologer is what > I feel and respect all such people and whatever tools they may > be using. > > Therefore, on the face of it, no stong reasons for reading > Mars and Rahu as in 12th. Kindly ignore my approaches. > Your approaches are respected and fine by me.I do await > your valued comments since you have shown interest, > otherwise I would not have troubled You. > > Best Wishes, > Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2006 Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 Dear Mrs. Wendy, You may please take your time to reply about my query of effects of Rahu MahaDasha. In the meanwhile if I get your birth details I feel its my duty too, to check why your present Dasha running is giving You problems with refrence to Your health. Let me too check with my limited knowledge in front of You, though that would not have much credence speaking in front of a Giant like You in Astrology, but let me try. regards, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar, > > //Mars MahaDasha just getting over, though in start gave me good money > (Extraordinary Wealth)but now has again reduced me to the prior position > (Ordinarily wealthy), taken me out of family business due to differences > with own Father and brother (Mars is Karaka for brother you Know),am now > restricted to a 200sq feet area of activity,// > > For you, YogaKaraka Mars occupies lagna in sign of Leo (along with Rahu). As > we know, during the dasa of (any) planet, it's dispositor will dictate > events to a very large extent. Consider therefore Mars' dispositor (lagnesh > Sun) conjunct 2nd/11th lord Mercury in 11th house of gains. Initially you > gained significant wealth but now have lost what you gained, returning your > wealth to its previous level. This you say is because, according to KP, Mars > and Rahu are in 12th? According to Rasi however this is due to the aspect of > 12th lord Moon on Sun and Mercury. > > //domestic happiness is practically nil at home (4th House Scorpio).// > > As family life generally (own and extended family) is governed by 2nd house, > domestic harmony, harmony within our family is seen from this house, and, > again, we see the effects of 12th lord Moon on both 2nd lord Mercury and > lagnesh Sun...Mercury BTW is combust. > > You may remember, Bhaskar, one of the members who (earlier on) took a little > swipe at you, accusing you of being too emotional...a rather unprofessional > attitude unbefitting an astrologer BTW as no astrologer should EVER sit in > judgement of another. However, the aspect of 12th lord Moon on lagnesh etc > is an indication of a strong emotional nature. Moon occupies your 5th house > (inclinations of the mind) so naturally the mind is influenced very much by > your emotions. This is not a condemnation, Bhaskar. I have Mars in 5th and > many judge me as being too forceful. My own beloved son (David) has 8th lord > Moon in lagna and he's extremely volatile (emotionally)...we are all > wonderfully unique in our own way, is this not so? > > I write this just to show that it's not necessary to place MA/RA in 12th in > order to justify the outcome of this Mars dasa, it can be seen clearly from > Rasi :-) > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish > <jyotish-vidya> > Thursday, November 16, 2006 3:59 PM > Re: Rahi in 12th: Bhaskar > > > Dear Mrs. Wendy, > > In Placidus as you must be aware they take the normally understood > mid-point as starting point. So since the Ascendant Cusp starts at Leo > 15.52 ,and Mars is in leo 6.19 and Rahu is in Leo 6.41 they both are > thus in 12th Cusp technically about 8-9degrees away from the starting > of first cusp. > > Well, My teachers have always taught me to read the chart from the > Bhava Chalit, and co-incidentally from 2 different schools of > learning both instructed us to do so,from the Placiddus system > as provocated best among all, by both.Though one school was the Vedic > one and the other Nakshatra based. Thats the only reason for doing so. > Because what Gurus teach we normally accept as true then later on > experience confirms us the same in time to come. > Of course Rahu and Mars are both in Ascendant in my Chart,ie,first > house, but move to the 12th Bhava in cuspal Chart,I have been told > that I would get results of 12th house placement by these Planets > though they are placed in sign Leo. Mars MahaDasha just getting over, > though in start gave me good money (Extraordinary Wealth)but now > has again reduced me to the prior position (Ordinarily wealthy), > taken me out of family business due to differences with own Father > and brother (Mars is Karaka for brother you Know),am now > restricted to a 200sq feet area of activity , domestic happiness > is practically nil at home (4th House Scorpio).Am staying seated on > cushion most part of the day doing my work with unnecessary physical > rest to body and very much less of physical activity. (12th > house ).So in all I have noticed more of 12th house effects in Mars > case and as Rahu was in close conjunction with Mars, am not so happy > or looking forward in welcoming the Rahu MahaDasha. > > At the same time, I keep a open mind and windows. > The system Placidus has come in Vogue since few decades only, and > before that too people were predicting superbly with any system > in hand. The skill lies in the hand of the barber and not so much in > the sharpness of the scissor. Any good barber can make the > face look better even if he is given a blunt scissor. Thus > personally speaking any system is good for a good astrologer is what > I feel and respect all such people and whatever tools they may > be using. > > Therefore, on the face of it, no stong reasons for reading > Mars and Rahu as in 12th. Kindly ignore my approaches. > Your approaches are respected and fine by me.I do await > your valued comments since you have shown interest, > otherwise I would not have troubled You. > > Best Wishes, > Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 Dear Bhaskar, As we discussed previously, Rahu in a kendra conjunct a kendra/trikona lord, himself becomes a YogaKaraka (BPHS Ch.34: 16-17) and can give good results during his dasa. As with Mars dasa, Rahu's dispositor (lagnesh Sun) is conjunct 2nd/11th lord Mercury in 11th house of gains and aspected by 12th lord Moon... Rahu, a significator for change, is tightly conjunct YogaKaraka Mars and both occupy nakshatra of Ketu who occupies 7th house of marriage, business/trade, business partners, business related travel and so forth...this I'm sure you know! At the commencement of Rahu's dasa (4 Feb 2007) he, along with Venus and Mercury (in Rahu's own nakshatra), will be transiting 7th in sign of Saturn who, in retrograde motion, will be transiting 12th. Travel/gains in relation to business is indicated...separation from spouse, perhaps on account of travel/business, is also indicated. Ups and downs in married life certainly but Venus in 9th should keep the marriage safe... As you know, Rahu dasa can be difficult to define but, basically, we can say that this dasa indicates major change in your life, with ups and downs, no doubt. Some points to consider: 1) Ketu in 7th, aspected by 5th/9th lord whilst Venus occupies 9th, indicates a spiritual spouse... 2) 7th lord conjunct Jupiter in 6th...this house (also) governs employees, subordinates, competitors (and the ability to overcome them) etc., as well as struggles, obstacles and so forth. 3) 3rd/10th lord Venus inimically placed in 9th...good intentions/righteous motives, inclined towards religion, Vedic studies (jyotish etc) yet some difficulty/hindrance (opposition) in implementing these due to Venus inimical placement...this is reinforced with karaka for 9th (Jupiter), debilitated in 6th house of opposition, conjunct F/M Saturn. Often grief for you due to this opposition, is this not so? 4) YogaKaraka Mars conjunct Rahu in lagna (again) shows the strong pull you have towards religion, religious studies, jyotish etc.. The influence of Rahu, of course, makes you quite passionate about these things..a compelling, irresistible force :-)) PS: As you know I normally avoid giving readings over the net (like the plague), whether on the list or privately, for several reasons: 1) I believe strongly that an astrological consultation is a personal matter between the astrologer and the querant and, unfortunately, over the net, the most important element (physical, personal exchange) is missing...this exchange of subtle physical/spiritual energy, which sharpens the astrologers intuition, is just not possible in this environment and (often) the best that can be hoped for is a second rate reading. 2) The way the querant approaches the astrologer is another vital factor in sharpening the astrologers intuition (vital for correct interpretation of this Divine knowledge)... Parashara emphasizes this point. 3) Over the years I've seen these (jyotish) discussion groups reduced to little more than roadside astrology stands where passers by frequently DEMAND readings, sometimes quite rudely and often without even as much as a 'thank you' before they log-on to another group demanding yet another reading, while astrologers, mistakenly believing they're providing a service, bend over backwards to accommodate them. This state of affairs is as degrading to the sincere aspirant as it is to this Divine science. Of course, discussing particular placements in individual charts, is a different matter entirely as it involves mutual discussion and promotes learning... In a nutshell; exchange of knowledge once was, and I hope will be again, the purpose of these groups. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> <jyotish-vidya> Saturday, November 18, 2006 1:59 PM Re: Rahi in 12th: Bhaskar Dear Mrs.Wendy, That was so beautifully explained by You in your usual style of logical presentation, that is why I always value your comments so much. I agree with all you have said and let me confess that at times (Most of the times) ,I get results more better by using the Parashari principles rather than the KP ones. That is why I am not averse to any but welcome and ingrained all in me, with faithfulness to all ways of approach.Unless for pinpointing and confirming the timings and effects at criticical issues I take help from the other system otherwise I am all for Parashar which is the Parent one for me. Since You have already done the study part may I request You to please enumerate what The Rahu Dasha will have in store for me. And You know that I believe in Your judgement and value your writings. Also you may freely tell me any remedies to make the quality of the Dasha better and more favourable towards me. Yours sincerely, Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 Dear Bhaskar, Many members have provided their details in the 'Database File' on our group webpage...mine is also there. Members are welcome to take up any of these charts for the purpose of study (on the group or privately) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> <jyotish-vidya> Sunday, November 19, 2006 1:31 AM Re: Rahi in 12th: Bhaskar Dear Mrs. Wendy, You may please take your time to reply about my query of effects of Rahu MahaDasha. In the meanwhile if I get your birth details I feel its my duty too, to check why your present Dasha running is giving You problems with refrence to Your health. Let me too check with my limited knowledge in front of You, though that would not have much credence speaking in front of a Giant like You in Astrology, but let me try. regards, Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 Respected Madam, This would be done probably after a fortnight when I would be free mentally and physically to be able to do justice to the charts I require to study. regards, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar, > > Many members have provided their details in the 'Database File' on our group > webpage...mine is also there. Members are welcome to take up any of these > charts for the purpose of study (on the group or privately) > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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