Guest guest Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 Dear RR, a good post in line with what i felt while doing this and ashutosh's also, the abruptness of the chat has left some sides of me in not a good shape, but will take care on this as well, I have looked at every experiece as a page in learning to deal with people and improve my skills in reading people and their horoscopes later. where the abruptness has left me in odd shape I have overr thefew motnsh have completed the right lines do miss many people here and alternative reading /presentation was always a healthy experience. regards/prashant Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: No astrologer or divinator should have to go through a job-interview each time they are approached for a reading, particularly when the reading is free. And those that think that just because they are paying an astrologer a fee and therefore have the right to question them, and haggle, as they would when they are shopping for a product or service, then they are really being foolish. An astrology reading is hardly comparable to house-cleaning, or getting your car or cycle fixed or plumbing etc etc. It is a mental and spiritual activity and if the astrologer approaches the 'task' with a mind that has been soured by the disrespect that the nativity has shown, well it is easy to figure out who gets the worst side of the deal! Not the astrologer, for sure!! Now I realize that there are individuals who have been less than perfect in their practice but this should not mean that all astrologers be subjected to abuse and questioning, particularly by individuals who either do not know anything about astrology or who think they know a lot after reading a book or two. Some of these actually are sceptics or fundamentalistic followers of other schools of astrology who want to put down jyotish and jyotishis. Using photographs is a very well-known practice. I have found it very useful. The best way is ofcourse to have the nativity in a person-to- person consultation, as had been done traditionally, but in today's setting of remote readings, a photograph and palm-print is the next best substitute. If nativities are not serious or sincere about the reading that they ask for and would receive through the kindness of astrologers -- are wasting their time. The astrologer's time is never wasted, by the way! Each experience adds to his or her framework of perception! RR , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > Dear Ashutosh, > > this post was anyway about me and my experience abt this women- smouldering_cigarette > > I NONE OF MY feedback posts I have ever said it is my prowess or greatness > on the contrary have said it s the greatness of the subject and its masters who have show us the way to do what little we can do. > > and I have sent quite a few mails in the groups asking for info, dates, events /pics. ESP when it comes to breaking of a marriage, this is a huge moral responsibility to predict without verifying a few parameters. > > I will never decide someones marriage break up without making sure on as many parameters as possible. esp verify both the couples pics just to make sure their lagna features [if the reported time is not right what do u do] > > In birth time rectification also I insist on pics. > > in other cases also if they give is welcome > > BUT BREAK UPS, I DO INSIST, I AM NOT ASKING HER OR ANYONE FOR MONEY HERE TO DO IT JUST TO ENSURE MY WORK doesn't destroy a family by any oversight. > > I have quite a few women members who have written to me privately [who are not visible in any post here not even Beatriz many I mean others who have yet to write a post here] on such issues and have shared their pics after sometime, this comes at times when we BUILD trust. such intervals also gives us time to see if we can breathe some hope, life to the marriage, this has its value. > > This much I can say has come only after seeing how I handle women's issues nothing else. I don't need their praise sure. a happy home is a reward in itself. > > smouldering_cigarette ASKED ME many questions abt me, age, experience, if answering this is MAKING TALL CLAIMS i can't give any answer. > > she also asked > > WHY OTHERS (ashutosh, Bhaskarji) ARE ABLE TO DO WITHOUT IT AND U INSIST on Pic n Info...? [this line is her words] > > which I said have posted it here as well > > I need to verify and also do give most of my readings with a time range how many r doing it here. and sad many astrologers have left/not active in the groups compared to the times when I joined I do miss Krishnan, Trivedi etc I have said this in some posts too. > > I am not sure if I can add the ur last line yet. coming from a parampara where we don't make money to read as rule in chats, mails i randomly ask people if they want a paid or free Reading and 99.9% say free sure, and what i have given paid or free is same in style,content no discrimination for me subject is superior than us. > > as long as time permits for me to write here will do so I orignially felt our construction work could start in Sept end, but has got delayed by the change in govt, corporation etc so early Jan next yr can be my cut off date, wil see less of me in any group. > > best wishes > > Prashant > > astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh wrote: > Dear Beatrice, > > It is not always that the person who asked who is at fault. Sometimes the astrologer himself provokes such insults by his/her tall claims. We astrologers are very prone to have weaknesses like pride and arrogance. A few words of praises are enough to make us feel that we have found the ultimate truth in astrology. > > I have fight with such demons inside me everyday when my satisfied clients shower me with praises and bring me huge gifts. But, I keep a good head on my shoulders knowing well that these praises and flowers can turn into brickbats and insults even when a single prediction goes wrong. > > It is easy for me or anyone else to think of oneself as the best astrologer in or on cyber world, just because someone praised me out of his own motives to get further free advices from me. But, it is really a big mistake to think so. When I look around me I find everyone is good in some or the other ways. Even those who call themselves beginners or those who claim to be masters of jyotish. All are contributing beautifully. Each and everyone has his/her unique ways of observing and analysing the planets. What one has overlooked is promptly pointed out by another. Thus, the discussions and contributions go on. > > I personally do not encourage long conversations on chat with unfamiliar people. I used to do so earlier, but not now. One reason is that I am mostly busy chatting with my regular clients. Secondly, I clearly tell the newcomers that I charge for every word on chat and on my personal email. > > Regards, > > Ashutosh > > - > searchingalight > > Monday, 20 November, 2006 23:23 > Re: smouldering_cigarette -intrusion 20/11 > > Dear Prashant Ji, > > What kind of a person asks another one for help and as the helper, > out of concern, asks for further info in order to give proper help, > insults the helper? > > Previous sentence was confusing? Yes, I didn't understand it either. > The same way I don't understand how retarded, gross, impolite . and > the list goes on., many human beings still are. Sometimes I wonder, > are we really dealing with Homo sapiens sapiens, or Troglodytes? > > First, they invade your privacy, and you, with an open heart, try to > do your best to help, get insulted for it? > > This kind of episodes is unpleasant or better said, they ruin our > mood, sometimes even for the coming days. > > But, Dear Prashant Ji, I think everybody who knows you will agree on > this: You are a true Gentleman and a competent professional. So, just > put on your white gloves and carry on being Who You Are. > > Those sprinkles of mud won't stick! > > May God Bless You, > Beatriz > > P.S.: Please remember the "carrot, egg and coffee" story... > > , Prashant Kumar G B > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ashutosh, members > > > > I had this ID smouldering_cigarette BARGE IN and request to post in > an group wanted me to help her, for which I asked as usual some info > that i ask many here > > > > some events, a pic or two to verify lagna features > > > > when she said why u need this others don't ask these and do reply > > > > I REPLIED I DO VERIFY MY WORKS esp when it comes to family break > ups, this is a huge moral responsiblity. > > > > I said I verify and read all private ones sure public too I do ask > some info as my reputation is at stake > > > > as I have given in most cases a date range for my readings wether > it works or not am taking the risk in the open some of the feedback > has been showing it as working > > > > FOR THIS she says I am pround, > > > > well if she wants me to work on hers I have to use my way of working > > > > I put this in public as want to make my part clear and any info > other than this is not true. > > > > I have done most of work with priority on family womens welfare in > many posts that women as care giver in family needs more atttn and if > she is happy so is family, society, in some select cases on my own > have written to women where i see abuse, violence or rape victims > which I can't won't do in public. > > > > > > Prashant > > > > btw smouldering_cigarette is a womens ID.... > > > > > > > > Sponsored Link > > > > Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. $420,000 Mortgage for $1,399/mo - > Calculate new house payment > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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