Guest guest Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 I am doing a research on astrology. I have previously written some articles based on previous researches on astrology, dismissing astrology as a 'science'. What can be the scientific basis of astrology? Every thing looks so absurd. What does vedic astrology have to say? i think there needs more researches. see my articles in www.kosmandu.com <http://www.kosmandu.com/> dip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2006 Report Share Posted November 23, 2006 Dear Friend! First you should define what the word "science" means.... generally science can be divided as three categories viz. 1) Physical Sciences - basic, earthly, physical laws and knowledge etc., where no learning is required. Like knowledge about fire, water, thirst, hunger etc. The basic living knowledge is already there by default. 2) Middle Level Sciences - like physics, quantum physics, astronomy, maths etc.....where some training and study is required. These category of sciences mostly depend on logic, theorums, rational rules, fixed outcomes or results etc. 3) Higher Level Sciences or Divine Sciences - which are above some planes, and to understand them one has to think in the higher level. Logic and rationality may prove futile in this category. Here usually subjectivity and non materialistic concepts such as karmas which are mind related etc. are studied. Astrology is one such Higher Level Science which may not fit in to the definition of lower level sciences. Hence please don't try to equate and get confused between astronomy which is more of a Physics/Maths related science and Astrology which is more of a evolved Human Consciousness related Divine-Science on a higher plane. They are incomparable and unrelated..... regards, ananda vedic astrology, "Kosmandu Astronomical Society" <kosmandu wrote: > > > I am doing a research on astrology. I have previously written some > articles based on previous researches on astrology, dismissing astrology > as a 'science'. What can be the scientific basis of astrology? Every > thing looks so absurd. What does vedic astrology have to say? > > i think there needs more researches. see my articles in www.kosmandu.com > <http://www.kosmandu.com/> > dip > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 Dear Friend! First you should define what the word "science" means.... Generally science can be divided as three categories viz. 1) Physical Sciences - basic, earthly, physical laws and knowledge etc., where no learning is required. Like knowledge about fire, water, thirst, hunger etc. The basic living knowledge is already there by default. 2) Middle Level Sciences - like physics, quantum physics, astronomy, maths etc.....where some training and study is required. These categories of sciences mostly depend on logic, theorems, rational rules, fixed outcomes or results etc. 3) Higher Level Sciences or Divine Sciences - which are above some planes, and to understand them one has to think in the higher level. Logic and rationality may prove futile in this category. Here usually subjectivity and non materialistic concepts such as karmas which are mind related etc. is studied. Astrology is one such Higher Level Science which may not fit in to the definition of lower level sciences. Also astrology is highly based on intuitive power and a high depth of understanding of micro-level analysis of different charts and tools makes it tougher challenge and highly mystical and interesting subject. The higher level Medium connected through the divine-astrologer will usually pin point the correct predictions appropriate for that time and situation. Hence instead of fixed- quantification as such, Astrology is a moment to moment highly dynamic and ever-changing science with respect to movement of time at any unique given point in the planetary-universe. All the nine Planets or properties or attributes are always active at any given instantaneous point of time with respect to the unique given point or horoscope in their respective related dynamic and transitory planetary forces with due accountage of active karmas and the self- chosen path of action and direction. Hence please don't try to equate and get confused between astronomy which is more of a Physics/Maths related science and Astrology which is more of a evolved Human Consciousness related Divine-Science on a higher plane. They are incomparable and unrelated..... best wishes --------Ananda vedic astrology, "Kosmandu Astronomical Society" <kosmandu wrote: > > > I am doing a research on astrology. I have previously written some > articles based on previous researches on astrology, dismissing astrology > as a 'science'. What can be the scientific basis of astrology? Every > thing looks so absurd. What does vedic astrology have to say? > > i think there needs more researches. see my articles in www.kosmandu.com > <http://www.kosmandu.com/> > dip > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 Namaste Sri Hemant If one is taught to look out, one cannot look within. If one is to accept the waking world to be the only reality, then, 60% of our lives of dreaming, deep sleeping and day dreaming is not accounted for. If one is foolish not to see the whole picture and arrogant enough to misreport it, then, we should understand the level of a person's thinking. Why would you even want such a person to accept Astrology? Astrology is a science and beyond. To measure it terms of scientific-ness, would be like measuring an ocean using buckets. Such foolishness abounds in this world. Let it abound. Scientists are themselves groping in darkness. Ask them a basic question - "Who are you?" and watch them going mad trying to explain it. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 11/24/06, Agnyeya <agnyeya > wrote: > > Dear All, > > Recently an article appeared in the Times of India, Mumbai edition on the > 17th Nov 2006, providing URL for the online version here ( > http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/462734.cms) which goes on > to state that Astrology is irrelevant. > While I have come across this opinion by people before, it pains me a lot > to see when a prominent astrophyicist (a scientest at that), Jayant > Narlikar, has chosen to close his mind to the possibilty of Astrology, at a > time when the fundamentals of Astrology are Astronomy and Mathematics. > > Humble Regards, > Hemant Desai > > > > Agnyeya@ Planet Earth > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get > it NOW > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 Namaste Sri Bharatji Nice posting. Regards Rajesh - Bharat Hindu Astrology vedic astrology Friday, November 24, 2006 7:09 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Opinion against Astrology by prominent Astropysicist - Jayant Narlikar Namaste Sri Hemant If one is taught to look out, one cannot look within. If one is to accept the waking world to be the only reality, then, 60% of our lives of dreaming, deep sleeping and day dreaming is not accounted for. If one is foolish not to see the whole picture and arrogant enough to misreport it, then, we should understand the level of a person's thinking. Why would you even want such a person to accept Astrology? Astrology is a science and beyond. To measure it terms of scientific-ness, would be like measuring an ocean using buckets. Such foolishness abounds in this world. Let it abound. Scientists are themselves groping in darkness. Ask them a basic question - "Who are you?" and watch them going mad trying to explain it. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 11/24/06, Agnyeya <agnyeya > wrote: > > Dear All, > > Recently an article appeared in the Times of India, Mumbai edition on the > 17th Nov 2006, providing URL for the online version here ( > http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/462734.cms) which goes on > to state that Astrology is irrelevant. > While I have come across this opinion by people before, it pains me a lot > to see when a prominent astrophyicist (a scientest at that), Jayant > Narlikar, has chosen to close his mind to the possibilty of Astrology, at a > time when the fundamentals of Astrology are Astronomy and Mathematics. > > Humble Regards, > Hemant Desai > > > > Agnyeya@ Planet Earth > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get > it NOW > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 Namaste Sri Hemant I call it scientific superstition! I agree to your concerns but instead of warring with them, we should make efforts to put the "House of Astrology" in order. 1.By recording and categorizing research 2.By bringing and cataloging all ancient texts and modern books under one roof. 3.By going to hospitals, schools, colleges, work places, etc to collect data of the diseased and cataloging this birth data as per disease, work areas, study interests, sports abilities, etc. 4. By making this information freely accessible by all astrologers. 5. By tying up with corporates for funding research in human behavior for assessment and evaluation of work ethics and success in career. 6. By rewarding and recognizing astrologers and protecting their copyrighted works. Imagine a research which would have: 1. Methods and principles used. 2. References given of those principles in ancient texts 3. Reference of their use by fellow astrologers 4. Test results on 200 charts in proper tabulated form. 5. Dasha employed... citing reasons for choice of dasha 6. and so on and so forth. 7. Limitations of such a method 8. Proper conclusion on why this method worked or failed. 9. Possible Avenues of further research. How many hands do I see up now? Thanks and Regards Bharat On 11/25/06, Agnyeya <agnyeya > wrote: > > Dear Bharatji, > > While I am personally fine with people who do not understand or accept > astrology, it pains me that one such as Mr. Narlikar, would write an article > on the same (without proper investigation, I am sure, and without any > supporting facts as is evident in the article.) > The bigger problem being that such an individual's opinions are taken > seriously and at a time when our past divine knowledge is not being > propagated, discounting it so frivolously is hurting the human race et al. > And therein lie my concerns. > > Humble Regards, > Hemant Desai > > > > Bharat Hindu Astrology <hinduastrology <hinduastrology%40gmail.com>> > wrote: > Namaste Sri Hemant > > If one is taught to look out, one cannot look within. If one is to accept > the waking world to be the only reality, then, 60% of our lives of > dreaming, > deep sleeping and day dreaming is not accounted for. If one is foolish not > to see the whole picture and arrogant enough to misreport it, then, we > should understand the level of a person's thinking. Why would you even > want > such a person to accept Astrology? > > Astrology is a science and beyond. To measure it terms of scientific-ness, > would be like measuring an ocean using buckets. Such foolishness abounds > in > this world. Let it abound. > > Scientists are themselves groping in darkness. Ask them a basic question - > "Who are you?" and watch them going mad trying to explain it. > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat > > On 11/24/06, Agnyeya <agnyeya <agnyeya%40>> wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > > > Recently an article appeared in the Times of India, Mumbai edition on > the > > 17th Nov 2006, providing URL for the online version here ( > > http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/462734.cms) which goes on > > to state that Astrology is irrelevant. > > While I have come across this opinion by people before, it pains me a > lot > > to see when a prominent astrophyicist (a scientest at that), Jayant > > Narlikar, has chosen to close his mind to the possibilty of Astrology, > at a > > time when the fundamentals of Astrology are Astronomy and Mathematics. > > > > Humble Regards, > > Hemant Desai > > > > > > > > Agnyeya@ Planet Earth > > > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. > Get > > it NOW > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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