Guest guest Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 Can "to be" or "as" be elided in the following examples? But after some time Poddar's brother Vanamali, deeming that site in the transcendental dhama to be his family property, wanted to reclaim it. By offering tobacco to Krsna, His senses are satisfied, but by considering it as personal enjoyment, it will gradually take away one's sensory potency and humanness. Considering these devotees to be an incipient threat to their hold on the public.... To consider a sannyasi to be a sense enjoyer and wanting to become a sannyasi with that motive should be totally rejected. But he deemed such liberalism as another form of deception... Those devoid of devotional sentiment, who feel no necessity to serve the Supreme Personality of Godhead, who do not want actual benefit, who consider sensual enjoyment and fame as desirable, will adjudge contaminated and pure as one. Those who are materialistic, who are very proud of worldly wealth and have no spiritual knowledge, consider their own happiness as the aim of life. Furthermore, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati had to address the outlook, erroneous from an opposite perspective, of those supposed Gaudiyas who considered study of the Upanisads and Vedanta-sütra impersonal speculation and thus not above, but below, their level of realization. ....considered Christianity as but hazy gratitude toward a vaguely defined cosmic order supplier. He considered any hill as Govardhana, and any river as Yamunä. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 At 08:46 AM 11/25/2006 -0500, Bhakti Vikasa Swami wrote: >Can "to be" or "as" be elided in the following examples? > >But after some time Poddar's brother Vanamali, deeming that site in the >transcendental dhama to be his family property, wanted to reclaim it. "to be" can go >By offering tobacco to Krsna, His senses are satisfied, but by considering >it as personal enjoyment, it will gradually take away one's sensory potency >and humanness. Wow, a double dangling participle. If we offer Krsna tobacco, His senses will be satisfied, but if we enjoy it ourselves it will gradually take away our sensory potency and humanness. >Considering these devotees to be an incipient threat to their hold on the >public.... The "to be" can go, but "their"'s antecedent is ambiguous, at least in this fragment. I also suspect you may have set up another dangler. >To consider a sannyasi to be a sense enjoyer and wanting to become a >sannyasi with that motive should be totally rejected. "to be" can go, but better . . . It is strictily forbidden to think sannyasis are senses enjoyers and to aspire to become one to enjoy. >But he deemed such liberalism as another form of deception... "as" can go >Those devoid of devotional sentiment, who feel no necessity to serve the >Supreme Personality of Godhead, who do not want actual benefit, who consider >sensual enjoyment and fame as desirable, will adjudge contaminated and pure >as one. Parallelism: "who are" needed at beginning. Also, perhaps better . . . "Those who are devoid of devotion, who feel no need to serve the spog, who are ignorant of their actual benefit, who desire fame and sensual enjoyment -- such people cannot distinguish the pure from the impure. >Those who are materialistic, who are very proud of worldly wealth and have >no spiritual knowledge, consider their own happiness as the aim of life. Materialists -- those who flaunt their worldly wealth and lack spiritual knowledge -- consider their own happiness their sole aim in life. >Furthermore, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati had to address the outlook, >erroneous from an opposite perspective, of those supposed Gaudiyas who >considered study of the Upanisads and Vedanta-sütra impersonal speculation >and thus not above, but below, their level of realization. Furthermore, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati had to address the outlook of the supposed Gaudiyas who considered study of the Upanisads and Vedanta-sütra impersonal speculation and thus below their level of realization. "to be" or "as" already gone here. The elided portion you can add to a previous or subsequent sentence. >...considered Christianity as but hazy gratitude toward a vaguely defined >cosmic order supplier. "as" can go, but . . . ....considered Christianity but hazy gratitude directed toward a vaguely defined cosmic order-supplier. Even if "order supplier" is usually open, here it needs a hypen to avoid the idea that God fulfills cosmic orders. >He considered any hill as Govardhana, and any river as Yamunä. He considered every hill Govardhana, and every river the Yamuna. Your servant, Dravida dasa >-- > > >Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.16/551 - Release >11/25/2006 10:55 AM > > > > >-- > > >Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.16/551 - Release >11/25/2006 10:55 AM -- Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.19/556 - Release 11/28/2006 3:22 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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