Guest guest Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 Amazing poem, ranjanda! Transits and cycles, how they weave a complex set of events. --- Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: > Absolutely Suresh! > > You said that you had 'heard' that mahapurusha yogas > ... etc! (see > your message at the bottom of this thread) > > But after hearing that -- I was assuming that you > went and looked up > some charts and I was merely asking -- What did you > see? > > If we are serious about jyotish, we do not ask > questions based on > what we heard. We go and examine real charts and > test what we heard. > > Please do not take this as a sermon or criticism. As > you must have > seen, if you have been long here, we have already > appointed persons > here who do that already ;-) > > As Emperor Akbar had been quoted to say: > > Bazaar say guzraa hoon > Kharidaar nahin hoon! > > (Just a passer by, a window shopper is all that I > am!) > > Please allow me to thrust upon you something from > past! > ************************** > Emperor Akbar was the greatest Moghul to have ever > ruled over India. > The only one who made a real effort to combine the > best of Hinduism > and Islaam into what he called, DEEN-E-ILAHEE a > world religion of > sorts. One of his famous sayings was Bazaar se > guzra hoonh kharidar > nahin hoonh . I am merely a window shopper, passing > through this > market of life, I do not intend to buy anything from > this market. He > was a saint, a detatched saint, one of the best > emperors that India > ever had, that India could ever have I dedicate > this to him. > > > > Dazzling neons, flashing signs > enticing, tantalizing, luring > promising pleasures beyond imagination > promising levels unreachable, and > intoxicating tunes of what seems like love > > My feverish brain, forlorn and thirsty > and my heart, wish I could even reach it > so far from my soul has it gone this time. > > Temptations that beckon at me enticingly, > waving their beautifully manicured hands > tickling my desires and touching my fancies > calling deploringly, to the brink of my disaster. > I fumble helplessly, as demons of desires > grab and clutch at my struggling soul > and pull yearningly at my willling heart. > > Anchors I look for but hooks are all I find > as longings of lifetimes, rear their hungry heads > and greed surrounding my soul > reaches an all time high. > > Love, She assures me, but is that what this is? > Why then do I feel? > This agonizing pain of loneliness? > Why does it feel so empty when the shops now are all > closed > Why do I writhe and pine so, > till 'tis opening time again, tomorrow? > > Would I ever get through, > this market of emptiness, > where dazzling packages hold > just the venom of isolation? > Why must I go through this again – and again? > Wasn't I just here before? > Is this a final test or, > merely the beginning, of it all, yet again?? > > What lies at the end of all this, If knew only I > that, > perhaps it could have been easy, > to hold on to the loftiness > when karma makes me look again > into this chasm of despair, I never could leave > > Written by Rohiniranjan (on behalf of Emperor Aqbar) > on: > October 6, 1993 > ************************************************************** > <check out the transits if you want to examine the > astrological angle > to this posting -- there is always one - trust me > ;-) > > > > , > "suresh1511978" > <suresh1511978 wrote: > > > > Dear Ranjan ji, > > > > I am not sure what you're trying to say. I suffer > from partial > > dyslexia, can't understand things easily. But I am > willing to learn. > > So can you be kind enough to explain a bit more? > Thanks again. > > > > Regards, > > Suresh > > > > , > "Rohiniranjan" > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > Your post clearly illustrates the difference > between hearing and > > > seeing! > > > > > > The raison d'etre for many internet discussion > groups ... > > > > > > Beautiful! > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > , > "suresh1511978" > > > <suresh1511978@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Prashantji, > > > > > > > > I thought mahapurush yogas were the highest. > This chart (DoB > > > 15/1/78, > > > > ToB 10.20am PoB Chennai) has a couple of > parivartana yogas, sun- > > > saturn > > > > (6th & 11th house) and jupiter-mercury (4th > and 10th). 6 and 11 > are > > > > bad combinations, and I believe it's the type > of parivartana > that > > > > gives poverty. I forgot its name, though. > Also, can you tell me > why > > > PY > > > > are special, when I've always heard mahapurush > yogas (and > gajakesari > > > > etc.) to be the best? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Suresh > > > > > > > > , > Prashant Kumar G B > > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Suresh, > > > > > Of allthe Raja Yoga combinations Parivartana > is the best and > has > > > > highest potential inthem u can see Indira > Gandhi's chart for it > all > > > > parivartanas > > > > > Sani-Chandra, Guru Sukra, Ravi Kuja u can > fin dmany such in > any > > > data > > > > base, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > suresh1511978 <suresh1511978@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Pandits, > > > > > > > > > > THis doesn't relate to any chart, but I am > curious to know > > > whether > > > > > parivartna yoga or exchange yoga can create > other yogas. > I'll > === message truncated === Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta. http://new.mail. 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Guest guest Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 Seriously though -- perhaps poetry has something deeply related to jyotish. I mean look at any of the revered or not so revered classics! See any prose there? Why not? Interestingly, as times have changed, prose has not changed that much but verse has! At times it had been all about rhyming at times it had been anything but! At times it had been about codes, such as katapayadi (Jaimini Sutras) But mostly it has been about soul reaching and touching another soul. Works in the jyotish framework too! , rishi shukla <rishi_2000in wrote: > > Amazing poem, ranjanda! > Transits and cycles, how they weave a complex set of > events. > > --- Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani wrote: > > > Absolutely Suresh! > > > > You said that you had 'heard' that mahapurusha yogas > > ... etc! (see > > your message at the bottom of this thread) > > > > But after hearing that -- I was assuming that you > > went and looked up > > some charts and I was merely asking -- What did you > > see? > > > > If we are serious about jyotish, we do not ask > > questions based on > > what we heard. We go and examine real charts and > > test what we heard. > > > > Please do not take this as a sermon or criticism. As > > you must have > > seen, if you have been long here, we have already > > appointed persons > > here who do that already ;-) > > > > As Emperor Akbar had been quoted to say: > > > > Bazaar say guzraa hoon > > Kharidaar nahin hoon! > > > > (Just a passer by, a window shopper is all that I > > am!) > > > > Please allow me to thrust upon you something from > > past! > > ************************** > > Emperor Akbar was the greatest Moghul to have ever > > ruled over India. > > The only one who made a real effort to combine the > > best of Hinduism > > and Islaam into what he called, DEEN-E-ILAHEE a > > world religion of > > sorts. One of his famous sayings was Bazaar se > > guzra hoonh kharidar > > nahin hoonh . I am merely a window shopper, passing > > through this > > market of life, I do not intend to buy anything from > > this market. He > > was a saint, a detatched saint, one of the best > > emperors that India > > ever had, that India could ever have I dedicate > > this to him. > > > > > > > > Dazzling neons, flashing signs > > enticing, tantalizing, luring > > promising pleasures beyond imagination > > promising levels unreachable, and > > intoxicating tunes of what seems like love > > > > My feverish brain, forlorn and thirsty > > and my heart, wish I could even reach it > > so far from my soul has it gone this time. > > > > Temptations that beckon at me enticingly, > > waving their beautifully manicured hands > > tickling my desires and touching my fancies > > calling deploringly, to the brink of my disaster. > > I fumble helplessly, as demons of desires > > grab and clutch at my struggling soul > > and pull yearningly at my willling heart. > > > > Anchors I look for but hooks are all I find > > as longings of lifetimes, rear their hungry heads > > and greed surrounding my soul > > reaches an all time high. > > > > Love, She assures me, but is that what this is? > > Why then do I feel? > > This agonizing pain of loneliness? > > Why does it feel so empty when the shops now are all > > closed > > Why do I writhe and pine so, > > till 'tis opening time again, tomorrow? > > > > Would I ever get through, > > this market of emptiness, > > where dazzling packages hold > > just the venom of isolation? > > Why must I go through this again – and again? > > Wasn't I just here before? > > Is this a final test or, > > merely the beginning, of it all, yet again?? > > > > What lies at the end of all this, If knew only I > > that, > > perhaps it could have been easy, > > to hold on to the loftiness > > when karma makes me look again > > into this chasm of despair, I never could leave > > > > Written by Rohiniranjan (on behalf of Emperor Aqbar) > > on: > > October 6, 1993 > > > ************************************************************** > > <check out the transits if you want to examine the > > astrological angle > > to this posting -- there is always one - trust me > > ;-) > > > > > > > > , > > "suresh1511978" > > <suresh1511978@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ranjan ji, > > > > > > I am not sure what you're trying to say. I suffer > > from partial > > > dyslexia, can't understand things easily. But I am > > willing to learn. > > > So can you be kind enough to explain a bit more? > > Thanks again. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Suresh > > > > > > , > > "Rohiniranjan" > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Your post clearly illustrates the difference > > between hearing and > > > > seeing! > > > > > > > > The raison d'etre for many internet discussion > > groups ... > > > > > > > > Beautiful! > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > "suresh1511978" > > > > <suresh1511978@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashantji, > > > > > > > > > > I thought mahapurush yogas were the highest. > > This chart (DoB > > > > 15/1/78, > > > > > ToB 10.20am PoB Chennai) has a couple of > > parivartana yogas, sun- > > > > saturn > > > > > (6th & 11th house) and jupiter-mercury (4th > > and 10th). 6 and 11 > > are > > > > > bad combinations, and I believe it's the type > > of parivartana > > that > > > > > gives poverty. I forgot its name, though. > > Also, can you tell me > > why > > > > PY > > > > > are special, when I've always heard mahapurush > > yogas (and > > gajakesari > > > > > etc.) to be the best? > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Suresh > > > > > > > > > > , > > Prashant Kumar G B > > > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Suresh, > > > > > > Of allthe Raja Yoga combinations Parivartana > > is the best and > > has > > > > > highest potential inthem u can see Indira > > Gandhi's chart for it > > all > > > > > parivartanas > > > > > > Sani-Chandra, Guru Sukra, Ravi Kuja u can > > fin dmany such in > > any > > > > data > > > > > base, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > suresh1511978 <suresh1511978@> > > wrote: > > > > > Dear Pandits, > > > > > > > > > > > > THis doesn't relate to any chart, but I am > > curious to know > > > > whether > > > > > > parivartna yoga or exchange yoga can create > > other yogas. > > I'll > > > === message truncated === > > > > > ____________________ ______________ > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta. > http://new.mail. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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