Guest guest Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 Suresh in the point uasked mars, satn exchange YES it works that way and dependign on the house can be good/bad that is a Yoga or ava yoga 30/10/86, 10.35 Vijayawada this kid has one of ur list but Merc is withsatn in 12th else fits ur case will try for others I canrecall this 1st. lost his mother due to cancer when he was 14 or 15 had told them long before, that is in his teens will become a desporate person, drugms ciggeretes, alchol etc must be on course as father is worse than him and mother not aroudn to see his on course. suresh1511978 <suresh1511978 > wrote: , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > Suresh, > > Well the examples u cited or we cite will have a few more factors there, like in in normal cases also the main ingredients or catalysts are Dasa, balas, SAV these must also be in line with any yoga, avayoga. the Uttarakalmrutha is a good example for u test most of them Prashantji, I am aware that dasa and the rest play an important role. But it's true not only of MPY but also for PY, I presume? So my confusion was simply this: all things considered, which is the best yoga? > and MPY, OF PY are good yogas and there are many more as BV Raman has already tabulated over 300 Yogas, his grand father Suryanaryana Rao did collect 100 Yogas sure as u spend more time in the works of the masters will find more but Dasas must propel a Yoga to operate. I am aware of this too. My initial query was based on one of the astrologers-someone I used to know-telling me the following: Suppose a planet, say Mars, is in Saturn's house, and saturn is in Mars' house, it's similar to saturn and mars being in their respective houses. Is this correct? If there is an exchanges of signs between mars and saturn, does it amount to mars and saturn staying in their own signs? This is the point that confused me, and that's why I started this topic in the first place. > Nehru has 3 of them did not make him great on his own still like e leech on Mahatma's he could benefit and did ruining India partitioned it 1st on religion, then language, then castes in between did loose vast chunks of the land to PAk, China. inspite of good council. was a hypocrite one hand he decried west aggression in some parts but never condemned USSR'S or China's annexing Tibet. At the end of the day, he did become PM, is still being worshipped by millions of Indians, and so on. So whether or not he was a bad person, the yogas did make him great and immortal, they've given him a place in the history books, which most ordinary people can never achieve. He was able to achieve things which were impossible for the likes of Ambedhkar etc. So I was forced to relate all of this to his MPYs. It's so hard not to. > > this is due to dilution in the MPY. > Guru in 6th and with Ketu > and Sukra in 4th but with 12th lord Budha.[though friends still lordship has diluted it] > > u have to read this in total picture than look at it in parts. > > > > > suresh1511978 <suresh1511978 wrote: Dear Ranjan ji, > > Sorry, but I didn't merely 'hear' about this. I did check many charts. > The Mahatma had malviya yoga caused by sukra, Hitler's ruchaka yoga, > actor Bachan's hans yoga, and many, many more. And also mahapurush > implies "great person", so I put two and two together. Very rarely, as > in Indira Gandhi's case, I've come across PY. But most great and > accomplished people seem to have one of the MP yogas. > > That's why I put forth the query, in sheer surprise, having assumed > that MPY were the best. In most journals also, I've come across people > saying MPY are the best combinations, as signified by the name. > > Hope I haven't bothered you with any of this. > > Regards, > Suresh > > , "Rohiniranjan" > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > Absolutely Suresh! > > > > You said that you had 'heard' that mahapurusha yogas ... etc! (see > > your message at the bottom of this thread) > > > > But after hearing that -- I was assuming that you went and looked up > > some charts and I was merely asking -- What did you see? > > > > If we are serious about jyotish, we do not ask questions based on > > what we heard. We go and examine real charts and test what we heard. > > > > Please do not take this as a sermon or criticism. As you must have > > seen, if you have been long here, we have already appointed persons > > here who do that already ;-) > > > > As Emperor Akbar had been quoted to say: > > > > Bazaar say guzraa hoon > > Kharidaar nahin hoon! > > > > (Just a passer by, a window shopper is all that I am!) > > > > Please allow me to thrust upon you something from past! > > ************************** > > Emperor Akbar was the greatest Moghul to have ever ruled over India. > > The only one who made a real effort to combine the best of Hinduism > > and Islaam into what he called, DEEN-E-ILAHEE a world religion of > > sorts. One of his famous sayings was Bazaar se guzra hoonh kharidar > > nahin hoonh . I am merely a window shopper, passing through this > > market of life, I do not intend to buy anything from this market. He > > was a saint, a detatched saint, one of the best emperors that India > > ever had, that India could ever have I dedicate this to him. > > > > > > > > Dazzling neons, flashing signs > > enticing, tantalizing, luring > > promising pleasures beyond imagination > > promising levels unreachable, and > > intoxicating tunes of what seems like love > > > > My feverish brain, forlorn and thirsty > > and my heart, wish I could even reach it > > so far from my soul has it gone this time. > > > > Temptations that beckon at me enticingly, > > waving their beautifully manicured hands > > tickling my desires and touching my fancies > > calling deploringly, to the brink of my disaster. > > I fumble helplessly, as demons of desires > > grab and clutch at my struggling soul > > and pull yearningly at my willling heart. > > > > Anchors I look for but hooks are all I find > > as longings of lifetimes, rear their hungry heads > > and greed surrounding my soul > > reaches an all time high. > > > > Love, She assures me, but is that what this is? > > Why then do I feel? > > This agonizing pain of loneliness? > > Why does it feel so empty when the shops now are all closed > > Why do I writhe and pine so, > > till 'tis opening time again, tomorrow? > > > > Would I ever get through, > > this market of emptiness, > > where dazzling packages hold > > just the venom of isolation? > > Why must I go through this again – and again? > > Wasn't I just here before? > > Is this a final test or, > > merely the beginning, of it all, yet again?? > > > > What lies at the end of all this, If knew only I that, > > perhaps it could have been easy, > > to hold on to the loftiness > > when karma makes me look again > > into this chasm of despair, I never could leave > > > > Written by Rohiniranjan (on behalf of Emperor Aqbar) on: > > October 6, 1993 > > ************************************************************** > > <check out the transits if you want to examine the astrological angle > > to this posting -- there is always one - trust me ;-) > > > > > > > > , "suresh1511978" > > <suresh1511978@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ranjan ji, > > > > > > I am not sure what you're trying to say. I suffer from partial > > > dyslexia, can't understand things easily. But I am willing to learn. > > > So can you be kind enough to explain a bit more? Thanks again. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Suresh > > > > > > , "Rohiniranjan" > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Your post clearly illustrates the difference between hearing and > > > > seeing! > > > > > > > > The raison d'etre for many internet discussion groups ... > > > > > > > > Beautiful! > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > , "suresh1511978" > > > > <suresh1511978@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashantji, > > > > > > > > > > I thought mahapurush yogas were the highest. This chart (DoB > > > > 15/1/78, > > > > > ToB 10.20am PoB Chennai) has a couple of parivartana yogas, sun- > > > > saturn > > > > > (6th & 11th house) and jupiter-mercury (4th and 10th). 6 and 11 > > are > > > > > bad combinations, and I believe it's the type of parivartana > > that > > > > > gives poverty. I forgot its name, though. Also, can you tell me > > why > > > > PY > > > > > are special, when I've always heard mahapurush yogas (and > > gajakesari > > > > > etc.) to be the best? > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Suresh > > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Suresh, > > > > > > Of allthe Raja Yoga combinations Parivartana is the best and > > has > > > > > highest potential inthem u can see Indira Gandhi's chart for it > > all > > > > > parivartanas > > > > > > Sani-Chandra, Guru Sukra, Ravi Kuja u can fin dmany such in > > any > > > > data > > > > > base, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > suresh1511978 <suresh1511978@> > > wrote: > > > > > Dear Pandits, > > > > > > > > > > > > THis doesn't relate to any chart, but I am curious to know > > > > whether > > > > > > parivartna yoga or exchange yoga can create other yogas. > > I'll > > > > provide > > > > > > an example. Suppose a native has 10th lord in 7th house, and > > 7th > > > > lord > > > > > > in 10th house, can one take this to mean 10th lord is in > > 10th > > > > and 7th > > > > > > in 7th due to this exchange? > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Suresh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashantkumar G B > > > > > > > > > > > > -*- The services of this astrologer are free on > > > > > > > group but > > > > > > off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail or > > > > phone. > > > > > > Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay Pal ID > > also > > > > > > > > > > > > Personal ID astro.prashantkumar@ > > > > > > 09840051861 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Access over 1 million songs - Music Unlimited. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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