Guest guest Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 OM NAMAH SIVAYA i totally agree with you the mere act of proclaiming Love is superficial and illusionary. but that is not Love. nor is Love a concept. True Love is not really something you can give but only something you can Be. and i think that crimes against humanity are really about ignorance. the ego. the father loves his family because he identifies with them. he commits crimes or injures others because he sees them as being separate from himself. The Great Masters have said that Pure Love, True Love is God. God's Love is without any condition. and like God you can't really give Love, you can only BE Love. also like God it is not definable by logic. Love can only be experienced. a True Guru can give you the experience of Love and teach you to tune into that Love thru spiritual practice. Yet like the example of honey, you can read about it, even lick the word on the page, but until you experience it by tasting it you can never know honey's sweetness. For me Ammachi is a living example of unconditional Love. below are a few of Her words about Love and the Nature of Love. Love just happens. Nobody thinks about how to love, or when and where to love. Nobody is rational about love. Rational thought hinders love. Love is a sudden rising in the heart. Love is an unavoidable, unobstructable longing for oneness. There is no logic in this. It is beyond logic. So do not try to be rational about love. It is like trying to give reasons for the river to flow, for the breeze to be cool and gentle, for the moon to glow, for the sky to be expansive, for the ocean to be vast and deep, or for the flower to be fragrant and beautiful. Rationalisation kills the beauty and charm of these things. They are to be enjoyed, experienced, loved and felt. If you rationalise about them, you will miss the beauty and charm and the feelings they evoke. Sit by the seashore. Look at it. Feel its vastness. Feel the rising up and down of the waves. Feel and be amazed at the creation and the creator of such magnificence. What good will it do you to rationalise about the ocean?" -Amma When love becomes divine love, compassion also fills the heart. Love is the inner feeling and compassion is its expression. Compassion is expressing your heartfelt concern for someone — for a suffering human being. Therefore, love and compassion are two sides of the same coin; they coexist. -Amma "No one loves anyone more than they love themselves. Behind everyone's love is a selfish search for their own happiness. When we don't get the happiness we expect from a friend, our friend becomes our enemy. This is what can be seen in the world. Only God loves us selflessly. And it is only through loving Him that we can love and serve others selflessly." -Amma "A true relationship, or true love, is based on the amount of identification one has with someone. However, it isn't something that can be measured, for it is a deep feeling, something that happens within. As the identification intensifies, that sense of oneness becomes manifest externally as well. Your heart overflows with love and expresses itself through your words and actions. At its peak, even your bodies will bear a close resemblance. This rarely happens in worldly relationships. In a spiritual relationship, however, it happens in a clear, profound way. It happens, for example, to a disciple who has completely surrendered to his spiritual Master, and whose heart is filled with love and devotion towards his Master." -Amma JAI MA , "NMadasamy" <nmadasamy wrote: > > , Max Dashu <maxdashu@> > wrote: > > > > The ego-based types of love are limited and can be blind, but real > > Love is unlimited and infinite. I think of compassion as love > > directed toward others who are in pain or limitation or deficiency > in > > some way, but what of love toward others in their happiness? I > think > > there is a love that is beyond even compassion, that is the > essence > > of our nature, deep in there somewhere. > > > > Compassion is love beyond understanding or accepting other pain, > their limitation or deficiency nor its about happiness. What makes > somebody who is such a loving father, husband and father to commit > crime against humanity. It's the lack of Compassion. > > To me ive seen people coming here proclaiming this "LOVE". Its > becoming so superficial. Utter too many times that it have lost > its meaning all together. Love have becoming so fractured and > mutilated, such concept of real love is an illusion. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Just as I expected it : ecjensen_us will come and give us a lecture about Love. Thank you for this. , "ecjensen_us" <ecjensen_us wrote: > > OM NAMAH SIVAYA > > i totally agree with you the mere act of proclaiming Love is > superficial and illusionary. but that is not Love. nor is Love a > concept. True Love is not really something you can give but only > something you can Be. and i think that crimes against humanity are > really about ignorance. the ego. the father loves his family because > he identifies with them. he commits crimes or injures others because > he sees them as being separate from himself. The Great Masters have > said that Pure Love, True Love is God. God's Love is without any > condition. and like God you can't really give Love, you can only BE > Love. also like God it is not definable by logic. Love can only be > experienced. a True Guru can give you the experience of Love and > teach you to tune into that Love thru spiritual practice. Yet like > the example of honey, you can read about it, even lick the word on the > page, but until you experience it by tasting it you can never know > honey's sweetness. For me Ammachi is a living example of unconditional > Love. below are a few of Her words about Love and the Nature of Love. > > Love just happens. Nobody thinks about how to love, or when and where > to love. Nobody is rational about love. Rational thought hinders love. > Love is a sudden rising in the heart. Love is an unavoidable, > unobstructable longing for oneness. There is no logic in this. It is > beyond logic. So do not try to be rational about love. It is like > trying to give reasons for the river to flow, for the breeze to be > cool and gentle, for the moon to glow, for the sky to be expansive, > for the ocean to be vast and deep, or for the flower to be fragrant > and beautiful. Rationalisation kills the beauty and charm of these > things. They are to be enjoyed, experienced, loved and felt. If you > rationalise about them, you will miss the beauty and charm and the > feelings they evoke. Sit by the seashore. Look at it. Feel its > vastness. Feel the rising up and down of the waves. Feel and be amazed > at the creation and the creator of such magnificence. What good will > it do you to rationalise about the ocean?" -Amma > > When love becomes divine love, compassion also fills the heart. Love > is the inner feeling and compassion is its expression. Compassion is > expressing your heartfelt concern for someone — for a suffering human > being. Therefore, love and compassion are two sides of the same coin; > they coexist. -Amma > > "No one loves anyone more than they love themselves. Behind everyone's > love is a selfish search for their own happiness. When we don't get > the happiness we expect from a friend, our friend becomes our enemy. > This is what can be seen in the world. Only God loves us selflessly. > And it is only through loving Him that we can love and serve others > selflessly." -Amma > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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