[sri ramanuja] Mukti/Liberation IS NOT CHEAP

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Dear Deepak Vinod,

adiyEn will try to clear the doubts raised by you, under the guidance

from our beloved AchAryAs. If there is any mistakes, please pardon

adiyEn for that.

 

> Is Mukti/Liberation as cheap as it is "portrayed/interpreted" as in our

> Shastras???

 

First adiyEn wants to clearly tell that, Mukti/Liberation IS NOT CHEAP

as you think. Liberation or adiyEn can say that reaching Sri Vaikuntam

to perform nitya kainkaryam to Sri VaikuntanAthan.

 

IN ONE LINE ADIYEN CAN SAY THAT, IF YOU WANT TO REACH PARAMAPADAM OR

OBTAIN LIBERATION FROM THIS WORLD,

According to our sampradhAyam, we have to perform saranAgati to

DivyaDhampathi's through AchArya sampandham. WITHOUT AchArya

sampandham, IT IS NOT POSSIBLE.

 

Adiyen will try to explain this based on the following:

 

Sri Pillai lOkAchAryar in his Sri Vacana Booshanam says:

"Iththaiyozhiya bhagavath sampandham dhurlabam"

---- 440 Soothram

 

There are 9 types of relationship between the JeevAthmA and ParamAthmA

which is called as "Navavidha Sampandham" which can't be broken by

even EmperumAn - "unthanOdu uravEl namakku ingu ozhikka ozhiyAthu" as

said by Sri Andal in ThiruPaavai.

 

For 440 soothram, Sri Manavala Mamunigal in his vyAkyAnam explained as

below:

 

Eventhough it is said that, the relationship between the jeevAthmA and

ParamAthmA is "anArchiththam", then why Pillai lOkAchAryar says that

without the AchArya sampandham, there is NO bhagavath sampandham.

Because, the jeevAthmA has to know this gn~Anam of relationship with

ParamAtmA. The jeevAthmA obtain this gn~Anam ONLY through AchAryan's

upadEsam. Without AchArya sampandham, jeevAthmA doesn't have this

gn~Anam. Hence Pillai lOkachAryar says that without the sampandham of

AchAryan, bhagavath sampandham is NOT POSSIBLE. Till the jeevAthmA

gets AchArya sampandham, it's devoid of sampandha gn~Anam.

 

This can be explained by using the following example:

It's said that, theertha yAtra, Ganga SnAnam will lead to mOksham.

Eventhough there are lot of fishes in the River Ganges, will it attain

mOksham? since it's always present inside the river water. NO

DEFINITELY NOT!!! Because those fishes doesn't had the gnAnam that,

the Ganga water came from emperumaan's thiruvadi.

 

Again adiyEn want to explain through the excerpt from Sri Velukkudi

VaradhAchAryar Swamin upanyAsam on "VisishtAdvaitam" concept. In that,

Swamin said that, When peoples were asking permission to go Teertha

yAtra to Ganga, Manu Bhagavan enquired each people "Do you accept that

Emperuman is our Swamin, and we are HIS dAsars(adiyArs)?". For those

people who accepted, Manu used to tell, "You NO need to go theertha

yAtra, since you are having the gnAnam of our relationship with

emperumAn. Those theertha yAtra is meant only for those who dont have

that gnAnam." And for those people who doesn't accepted, Manu used to

tell, "You also NO need to go theertha yAtra, because it WONT fetch

you anything, since you don't want to accept the sampandha gnAnam with

emperumAn."

 

The above is the excerpt from Manu Smruthi. Those theertha yAtra and

other karmA's are only meant for obtaining sampandha gnAnam with

Bhagavan. Once sampandha gnAnam with emperumAn is obtained, then the

JeevAtma will obtain Liberation. In our sampradhAyam the sampandha

gnAnam is obtained ONLY through AchArya sampandham, NOT THROUGH ANY

OTHER MEANS like going to theertha yatra, doing xyz, etc.....

 

Hence WITHOUT taking shelter under AchAryan, one cannot attain

paramapadam or mOksham.

 

The above words are NOT adiyEns own.

 

adiyEn,

senthil.b

 

 

 

ramanuja, Deepak Vinod <deepak.vinod wrote:

>

> Shri Hari

>

> Respected elders!

>

> Please enlighten me on an issue that has been lingering on my mind for a

> while..

>

> Is Mukti/Liberation as cheap as it is "portrayed/interpreted" as in our

> Shastras???

>

> In my very little reading recently I have come across many

places/references

> that I am sure everyone has themselves come across where the Shastra

says

>

> If one .................................. he/she will be given

liberation.

>

> The gap can be filled with many references from our shastras....for eg

>

> a) does Tirth darshan of xxxxxxxx or yyyyyyyyyyy

> b) has a bathe in the river xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (like Ganga, Jamuna,

Radha Kund)

> c) drinks the charnamrita of Lord in his Deity or Salagram form, as

per..

> Akaal mrityu harnam, Sarva vyadhi vinashanam, Vishno(Salagram)

padodakam

> pitva, punar janma na vidyate

> d) Offers one tulasi to the Lord (in the month of Kartika)

> e) does dIpa dAnam to the Lord in kArtika

> Similarly in various stotras or prayers written for the Lord...I am

sure the

> respected elders have come across stotras etc where in it there lies

mention

> of one who reads this nn number of times or on a certain day like

pUrnimA or

> ekAdasi etc are given Liberation.....

>

> So as a young person I believe and see that

> a) in this world that good things come with hard work

> b) People sacrifice their whole life to get the love of the Lord

> c) people in the past (ages and yugas) have gone through enormous

pain to

> enter the Lord's divya Dhaams

>

> So for me...it seems that Mukti or Liberation is percieved as so

cheap that

> one can go to a local travel agent, book a ticket to a certain

Teerth sthaan

> and visit and take darshan and as a result attain a GUARANTEED

ticket to the

> LORDS DHAAM when they leave their body....and irrespective of what the

> person does in their daily lives....including

> a) not taking shelter of Acharyen

> b) be involved in consuming Liquor and meat

> c) not practising devotion in their daily lives

>

>

> I am not contesting our shastras...I have great faith in them... I

believe

> that I am not interpreting them correctly as per the "desired" meaning.

> So please I beg the respected and Wise elders to enlighten me to what

> "seems" as a great inconsistency, unfairness, anomaly in our shastras.

> Please pardon my offences...I am genuinely seeking enlightenment.

>

> Your servant.

> Deepak

>

> Shri Hari

> Narayana Narayana Narayana

>