Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 Haribol Gopananda Prabhu, just a comment. I have not had any experience working with Jersey. There was a devotee who did work them in the UK named Bhagavata Bhakta. What does an adult Jersey ox weigh. Generally ox weight is a major factor in how much power you have for work. Our OX here at the Manor weigh 1200kgs each. Still with a working pair we wished we had more power. Smaller oxen will have smaller work abilities. So types of soil will be factors as you know. Visnu in Glastonbury has a Jersey herd. Ask him (dont know how though) about his male jersey ox temperments ys syam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 Hare Krishna, I have a little experience with Jersey cows and oxen here in North Carolina. I have been around them both for the last 10 years or so. It seems to me that you would not be losing out too much. I have only been around two Jersey oxen, but both of them are very gentle and nice. I rember reading in Drew Conroy's Ox Teamster's Handbook that he thought Jerseys would make a good farm team. For several years I have worked a single Jersey ox. He is at least 1500 lbs, maybe more. He has been able to move logs, cultivate row crops, do a little plowing, pull a wagon, etc. I have never done very intensive farming, but it seems to me that you would be able get something done with a team of Jerseys. I know that last year our team of Jerseys pulled some pretty big logs out of the woods. I have been told by a local dairy farmer that his Jerseys rarely got sick and hardly ever had any trouble calving. We have only had four calves here, but every one of the births went very smoothly. The Jersey cow is also known for being an efficient milk producer among the European breeds. Her milk is also quite rich. You can get plenty of butter for a family even if your cow goes down to a gallon of milk or so a day. Anyway, I think Jerseys are pretty good but I'm not much of a farmer. I hope this is of some use to you. Your servant, Krishna Chaitanya das mark john <gopanandadasa (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Jai Radhe, In the community Nueva Vrndavana on the outskirts of BsAs we are getting around to buying our first animals. I have discussed here whether it would be better Bos Indicus or Taurus, for here we could have both with hot summers and mild winters. In terms of production needs, it seems that Taurus wins the day, if milk is seen as a requirement as well as oxen. Thus the question is between Brown Swiss and Jersey. Our neighbouring farmer has Jersey and wants us to be the recipeint of her animals so that we can have two protected herds. Even though she is still a carnivour she is very attached to her cows. Her breed of Jerseys is not pedigree but we could improve the stock over the years with pedigree semen as Jersey are more common here than B Swiss, which are difficult to come across. So in terms of practicallity then Jersey wins. As we would not have bulls for many years to come, we would not have to worry about their temprament, and in terms of oxen, we would be working them, but not in any way which would require a great need for them, though trying to get that need raised in due time. B Swiss would be a good choice, and I do believe it to be the conferences favourite, but would I be really losing out so much with Jersey? I still have time to debate this issue, as I am not going to buy a cow until I am sure of its species, breed, maintenance and production means and all the other factors to have cattle which are well disceminated on this conference. But it is imperative from the outset to be sure of which breed to have to start with and I am still doubting this. Could those who know give me more decisive arguments on this so that I may draw my conclusions? Thank you very much, Gopananda dasa _________ All new Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine http://uk.docs./nowyoucan.html ----------------------- To from this mailing list, send an email to: Cow-Owner (AT) pamho (DOT) net Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 Haribol Why do you need so much milk? A Gir will give you about 7 litres a day and her maintenance is much less than a Jersey. If you are not having a commercial dairy why so much more milk? ys Labangalatika dasi - mark john <gopanandadasa (AT) (DOT) co.uk> Noma Petroff <npetroff (AT) bowdoin (DOT) edu> Cc: Cow (Protection and related issues) <Cow (AT) pamho (DOT) net> Saturday, December 02, 2006 12:18 AM Brown Swiss Vs Jersey > Jai Radhe, > > In the community Nueva Vrndavana on the outskirts of BsAs we are getting around > to buying our first animals. I have discussed here whether it would be better > Bos Indicus or Taurus, for here we could have both with hot summers and mild > winters. In terms of production needs, it seems that Taurus wins the day, if > milk is seen as a requirement as well as oxen. > Thus the question is between Brown Swiss and Jersey. Our neighbouring farmer > has Jersey and wants us to be the recipeint of her animals so that we can have > two protected herds. Even though she is still a carnivour she is very attached > to her cows. Her breed of Jerseys is not pedigree but we could improve the > stock over the years with pedigree semen as Jersey are more common here than B > Swiss, which are difficult to come across. > So in terms of practicallity then Jersey wins. As we would not have bulls for > many years to come, we would not have to worry about their temprament, and in > terms of oxen, we would be working them, but not in any way which would require > a great need for them, though trying to get that need raised in due time. > B Swiss would be a good choice, and I do believe it to be the conferences > favourite, but would I be really losing out so much with Jersey? > > I still have time to debate this issue, as I am not going to buy a cow until I > am sure of its species, breed, maintenance and production means and all the > other factors to have cattle which are well disceminated on this conference. > But it is imperative from the outset to be sure of which breed to have to start > with and I am still doubting this. > > Could those who know give me more decisive arguments on this so that I may draw > my conclusions? > > Thank you very much, > > Gopananda dasa > > > > > > _________ > All new Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease > of use." - PC Magazine > http://uk.docs./nowyoucan.html > > ----------------------- > To from this mailing list, send an email to: > Cow-Owner (AT) pamho (DOT) net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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