Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 _____ [] On Behalf Of Peter Sunday, December 03, 2006 12:02 PM RE: A Brief Essay on Kundalini Shakti in teh west at- Luthar.com Dear Michael and Yosy, Just to add a few thoughts along with your own (well, to your initial ones, anyway). Along with the line of 'twice born' (Brahmin) and 'die before you die' (sufi) there is another sufi saying - I'm not sure whether its from Rumi or his nephew: 'Each person needs to be born twice, Once from their own mother, And then again from their own existence' Its interesting to reflect on this in relation to 'existence' as Sat, Reality. The 'die before you die' resonates deeply, and of course there are hints here of the death of ego (and hence ignorance0 being more important than the death of the body. Jesus the Christ, embraces both the themes of birth and death: "..whosoever will lose his life for My sake, the same shall save it." (Luke 9:23,24) In the Bhagavad Gita, Krishna informs us that or true nature is beyond both birth and death. "Never is this One born, and never does It die; nor is it that having come to exist, It will again cease to be. The One is birthless, eternal, undecaying, ancient. It is not killed when the body is killed" (Bh. Gita 2: 20) A few verses earlier we hear that not only is our real nature beyond birth and death, but that which appears unreal has no real existence or being at all. "Of the unreal there is no being; the real has no nonexistence. The nature of both of these, indeed, has been realised by the seers of Truth." ( Bh. Gita 2: 16) Hence Ramana Maharshi spells it out even more clearly in the following passage: "The fact is that there is neither birth nor death." (Talk 17) Regards, Peter "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it" (anon) Dear Peter and everyone, Birth and Death, profit and loss, happiness and sorrow, night and day, man and woman, breathing in breathing out, tides and seasons, on and on... Life pulses... Surf the wave.... Eternal Peace, Eternal Love, Eternal Life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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