Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 Members of divya desam,I've a doubt rgding pithru karyams.If a person has only daughters and does not have any son's who can perform pithru karyam's after that person's death.I think only people of the same gothram can perform.what can a person without a son do?.can they adopt somebody r is it possible that during their lifetime they can do something (say some pariharam r remedy)for their own so that nobody has to perform their pithru karyams after their death.is there anyway a daughter can perform pithru karyams for their deceased parents who do not have a son. I also read in some spiritual texts that person without a son cannot reach Swargam.Is it true.If anybody can give me detailed answer rgding this i would be thankful to them.Rgds,revathi. Check out the all-new Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 This is addressed in Bhagavadgita. Arjuna prematurely concluded that the manes fall because wholesale war leads to chaos and none may be able to perform the rites for the departed ancestors. The Lord said that Arjuna's worries were baseless, because his basis was wrong (ga-tA-sU-na-ga-tA-sUm-shcha nA-nu-sho-cha-nti pa-NDi-tAh). (pitREn yA-nti pitR vra-tAh yA-nti ma-dyAgi-no-pi mAm) So from the point of view of eternal truth, the post death rites are not only unnecessary but also undermine the Lord's promise. It is a shame that we have reduced the essentials of our religion to shraddham and tarpNams. Not that doing them is wrong or bad- but unnecessary. We are also guilty of feeling guilty of not doing them properly. My revered father, full of knowledge, was always concerned whether his sons perform such rites. This is the primary question h eused to ask astrologer after showing our horoscopes. This is how much our psyche is preoccupied with the rites. On the other hand My mother made us promise that we will not do any such rites for her- she was full of wisdom. My suggestion is don't bother- just remember them extra special on those days. If you have a video or other memoirs of them gathering dust somewhere, dust it and hold it close to your heart and put it back or may be watch it with family members. Share some experiences of yours with them to otehrs, especially your children. I am sharing this information for you to decide between which one (knowledge or wisdom) to choose! dAsan K.S. tAtAchAr revathyi Sun, 3 Dec 2006 10:58 AM doubt rgding pithru karyams Members of divya desam,I've a doubt rgding pithru karyams.If a person has only daughters and does not have any son's who can perform pithru karyam's after that person's death.I think only people of the same gothram can perform.what can a person without a son do?.can they adopt somebody r is it possible that during their lifetime they can do something (say some pariharam r remedy)for their own so that nobody has to perform their pithru karyams after their death.is there anyway a daughter can perform pithru karyams for their deceased parents who do not have a son. I also read in some spiritual texts that person without a son cannot reach Swargam.Is it true.If anybody can give me detailed answer rgding this i would be thankful to them.Rgds,revathi. -------- Check out the all-new Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. ______________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 My Father-in-law expired on Ekadasi day in Masi month without a son but with two daughters . We call a swamiji from a Hindu temple and my ofice as a dutiful daughter,offers, raw rice, Moog Dal(paasi paruppu, green plantains(raw)- vazhaikka, Jagger, french beans-avarakkai and a dakshana of R. 251 on the thithi day. On that day, we elders fast in the evening. The morning lunch is simple on a typical shrardam style. I feel there is nothing wrong, if one believes in his/her conscience. As long as the daughters personally feel "not guily" of their action, there should not be any reason why the daughters could not call a brahman and offer. They do not peform any agni santhanam, conduct religious rites etc. They are doing it for their own father and now legally, when the daughters have an equal right on the share of ancestral property. why cannot they remember their loving father in a befitting/ deserving manner. Ego has no place in such religious rites. This is what we had followed, following and will follow to our end. This is our own personal opinion which we are following since 1968. Chandra AND srinivAsan revathi sampath <revathyi > wrote: Members of divya desam,I've a doubt rgding pithru karyams.If a person has only daughters and does not have any son's who can perform pithru karyam's after that person's death.I think only people of the same gothram can perform.what can a person without a son do?.can they adopt somebody r is it possible that during their lifetime they can do something (say some pariharam r remedy)for their own so that nobody has to perform their pithru karyams after their death.is there anyway a daughter can perform pithru karyams for their deceased parents who do not have a son. I also read in some spiritual texts that person without a son cannot reach Swargam.Is it true.If anybody can give me detailed answer rgding this i would be thankful to them.Rgds,revathi. Check out the all-new Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. aveesreenivaasan AVEEYES Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 >>I also read in some spiritual texts that person without a son cannot reach Swargam.Is it true.If anybody can give me detailed answer rgding this i would be thankful to them.Rgds,revathi.<< First of all, swarga and mokasha are not one and the same. Swarga is transient residence in Indra lokam, whereas moksha is permanent residence abiding with the supreme. How long one stays in Swarga is dependent on the accumulated puNyam in earthly life. Once that is used up (like retirement nest egg) they return to earth. As the Bhagavadgita says: kSHeeNe puNya martya lokam vishanti. Same is also true for Narakam. Obviously, there is no need for a son for either swargam or Narakam. Need of a son for moksham is a widely popular prejudice (ignorance), not substantiated by Bhagavadgita. Charama shlokam that guarantees moksham does not come with such mundane requirements. It is time we cleansed our system of accumulated kalmashams (impurities) even if they are in Sanskrit language and even if they are presented with atmost sincierity by our elders and religious heads! Let us take shelter in Bhagavadgeeta. At least for His sake let us not make a mockery of our religion with these invalid, worthless, and senseless mental blockades! dAsan K.S. tAtAchAr revathyi Sun, 3 Dec 2006 10:58 AM doubt rgding pithru karyams Members of divya desam,I've a doubt rgding pithru karyams.If a person has only daughters and does not have any son's who can perform pithru karyam's after that person's death.I think only people of the same gothram can perform.what can a person without a son do?.can they adopt somebody r is it possible that during their lifetime they can do something (say some pariharam r remedy)for their own so that nobody has to perform their pithru karyams after their death.is there anyway a daughter can perform pithru karyams for their deceased parents who do not have a son. I also read in some spiritual texts that person without a son cannot reach Swargam.Is it true.If anybody can give me detailed answer rgding this i would be thankful to them.Rgds,revathi. Check out the all-new Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. ______________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 >> The morning lunch is simple on a typical shrardam style.<< Typical shraddham lunch is supposed to be most sumtuous and not simple. dAsan K.S. tAtAchAr ganovasan (AT) (DOT) co.in Mon, 4 Dec 2006 4:20 AM Re: doubt rgding pithru karyams My Father-in-law expired on Ekadasi day in Masi month without a son but with two daughters .  We call a swamiji from a Hindu temple and my ofice as a dutiful daughter,offers, raw rice, Moog Dal(paasi paruppu, green plantains(raw)- vazhaikka, Jagger, french beans-avarakkai and a dakshana of R. 251 on the thithi day. On that day, we elders fast in the evening. The morning lunch is simple on a typical shrardam style.  I feel there is nothing wrong, if one believes in his/her conscience. As long as the daughters personally feel "not guily" of their action, there should not be any reason why the daughters could not call a brahman and offer. They do not peform any agni santhanam, conduct religious rites etc. They are doing it for their own father and now legally, when the daughters have an equal right on the share of ancestral property. why cannot they remember their loving father in a befitting/ deserving manner. Ego has no place in such religious rites.  This is what we had followed, following and will follow to our end.  This is our own personal opinion which we are following since 1968.   Chandra AND srinivAsan  revathi sampath <revathyi > wrote: Members of divya desam,I've a doubt rgding pithru karyams.If a person has only daughters and does not have any son's who can perform pithru karyam's after that person's death.I think only people of the same gothram can perform.what can a person without a son do?.can they adopt somebody r is it possible that during their lifetime they can do something (say some pariharam r remedy)for their own so that nobody has to perform their pithru karyams after their death.is there anyway a daughter can perform pithru karyams for their deceased parents who do not have a son. I also read in some spiritual texts that person without a son cannot reach Swargam.Is it true.If anybody can give me detailed answer rgding this i would be thankful to them.Rgds,revathi. -------- Check out the all-new Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster.            aveesreenivaasan AVEEYES -------- Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW ______________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Sir,Iam a regular web r of'Divyadesam'.Presently iam working in Defence services located very faraway from my home,relatives & friends.I lost my father 06 yrs back when doing Engineering.After his passing away,i could perform pithrukaryams for only around 04 yrs,after which i got placement in present job.Due to this, i was unable to perform his Karyams and used to feel guilty and shame for not doing so being his only son,& he, when alive had taken a lot of pains for my upbringing and studies due to very poor financial status.Whatever iam today,that is because of his struggles, & ofcourse his divine blessings. I remember him daily, and with your reply on Pithrukaaryams,my inner soul is feeling peaceful, and I would try to adopt his principles in my life. I Thank You for your valuable comments and suggestions pertaining to this topic. Adiyen Daasan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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