Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 !Om Gurveh Namah! Dear Friends and learneds, Namaskar! There are 3 types of relationships described in texts - Parivartan , Conjunction and third type of relation, where one planet in the house of other and the Other aspecting the house owned by first planet. Classic example given is in Lord Shri Ram's chart, Mars(5th and 10th lord) in Capricorn and Saturn(7th and 8th Lord) in Libra aspecting Aries. It was said in one of the lectures that this relationship is a weak one and manifests due to Iccha Shakti. I will appreciate if any one can enlighten me when (what dasha) does this type of relationship manifests and what are the effects? (If possible please use an example) Warm regards, Pranav Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 ??? ??? ?????? Dear Pranav, Namaskar Correction: there are four types of sambandha mentioned by Parasara Muni: 1. Parivartana 2. Yuti (conjunction) 3. Mutual dristi between planets 4. Dristi on each others signs Those caused by graha dristi are temporary and manifest during the udu dasa of the planet who is causing the graha dristi. The other two are permanent in nature, but their effects get more pronounced during the dasa. In case of Sri Rama's chart, the Iccha Shakti arises during Shani's vimsottari dasa. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> sushmagupta51 wrote: > !Om Gurveh Namah! > > Dear Friends and learneds, Namaskar! > > There are 3 types of relationships described in texts - Parivartan , > Conjunction and third type of relation, where one planet in the house > of other and the Other aspecting the house owned by first planet. > > Classic example given is in Lord Shri Ram's chart, Mars(5th and 10th > lord) in Capricorn and Saturn(7th and 8th Lord) in Libra aspecting > Aries. It was said in one of the lectures that this relationship is a > weak one and manifests due to Iccha Shakti. > > I will appreciate if any one can enlighten me when (what dasha) does > this type of relationship manifests and what are the effects? (If > possible please use an example) > > Warm regards, > Pranav > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta. > <http://us.rd./evt=42297/*http://advision.webevents./mailbeta> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 !Om Gurveh Namah! Dear Shri Visti ji, Namaskar! Thank you for your continued guidance. Saturn is aspecting Aries and Mars is in Capricorn. Saturn has the desire to complete the parivartan but is unable to do so. It is the desire of Saturn causing the sambandha. I have a few questions: Is this(desire) the reason the sambandha manifests in VD of Saturn? Can the sambandha activate under AD of Saturn? Is this (partial parivartan) also a, 4th type of sambandha you mentioned below? Let me know when you get a moment. Warm regards, Pranav Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Pranav, Namaskar Correction: there are four types of sambandha mentioned by Parasara Muni: Parivartana Yuti (conjunction) Mutual dristi between planets Dristi on each others signs Those caused by graha dristi are temporary and manifest during the udu dasa of the planet who is causing the graha dristi. The other two are permanent in nature, but their effects get more pronounced during the dasa. In case of Sri Rama's chart, the Iccha Shakti arises during Shani's vimsottari dasa. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com sushmagupta51 wrote: !Om Gurveh Namah! Dear Friends and learneds, Namaskar! There are 3 types of relationships described in texts - Parivartan , Conjunction and third type of relation, where one planet in the house of other and the Other aspecting the house owned by first planet. Classic example given is in Lord Shri Ram's chart, Mars(5th and 10th lord) in Capricorn and Saturn(7th and 8th Lord) in Libra aspecting Aries. It was said in one of the lectures that this relationship is a weak one and manifests due to Iccha Shakti. I will appreciate if any one can enlighten me when (what dasha) does this type of relationship manifests and what are the effects? (If possible please use an example) Warm regards, Pranav Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta. Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 ??? ??? ?????? Dear Pranav, Namaskar Because it is the desire of Saturn which completes the parivartana, the desire manifests during the Dasa of Saturn... this is when the mind attains this desire. Now, this desire can manifest due to self (mahadasa) or due to ones associates (antaradasa). Prayantara dasa is out of the question. The antara dasa only becomes capable if the mahadasa isn't obstructing the antaradasa graha. Yes, its the fourth type of sambandha. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> sushmagupta51 wrote: > !Om Gurveh Namah! > > Dear Shri Visti ji, Namaskar! > > Thank you for your continued guidance. > > Saturn is aspecting Aries and Mars is in Capricorn. Saturn has the > desire to complete the parivartan but is unable to do so. It is the > desire of Saturn causing the sambandha. > > I have a few questions: > > 1. Is this(desire) the reason the sambandha manifests in VD of Saturn? > 2. Can the sambandha activate under AD of Saturn? > 3. Is this ( partial parivartan ) also a, 4th type of sambandha you > mentioned below? > > Let me know when you get a moment. > > Warm regards, > Pranav > > */Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>/* wrote: > > > ??? ??? ?????? > Dear Pranav, Namaskar > Correction: there are four types of sambandha mentioned by > Parasara Muni: > > 1. Parivartana > 2. Yuti (conjunction) > 3. Mutual dristi between planets > 4. Dristi on each others signs > > Those caused by graha dristi are temporary and manifest during the > udu dasa of the planet who is causing the graha dristi. The other > two are permanent in nature, but their effects get more pronounced > during the dasa. In case of Sri Rama's chart, the Iccha Shakti > arises during Shani's vimsottari dasa. > > Yours sincerely, > -- > Visti Larsen > email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > <http://srigaruda.com/> > > > sushmagupta51 wrote: >> !Om Gurveh Namah! >> >> Dear Friends and learneds, Namaskar! >> >> There are 3 types of relationships described in texts - >> Parivartan , Conjunction and third type of relation, where one >> planet in the house of other and the Other aspecting the house >> owned by first planet. >> >> Classic example given is in Lord Shri Ram's chart, Mars(5th and >> 10th lord) in Capricorn and Saturn(7th and 8th Lord) in Libra >> aspecting Aries. It was said in one of the lectures that this >> relationship is a weak one and manifests due to Iccha Shakti. >> >> I will appreciate if any one can enlighten me when (what dasha) >> does this type of relationship manifests and what are the >> effects? (If possible please use an example) >> >> Warm regards, >> Pranav >> Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta. >> <http://us.rd./evt=42297/*http://advision.webevents./mailbeta> >> > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta. > <http://us.rd./evt=42297/*http://advision.webevents./mailbeta> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 !Om Gurveh Namah! Dear Shri Visti ji, Namaskar! Thank you for the nice explanation, One last qn : How do we determine the focus of these kinds of partial parivartan? (In this particular case it was 7th house ) I am unable to reason why: - Mars exaltation and Saturn akin debilitation? or - desire of Saturn (its even more with Retrogradation)? or let me know when you get a moment. Thank you for your continued guidance. Warm Regards, Pranav Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Pranav, Namaskar Because it is the desire of Saturn which completes the parivartana, the desire manifests during the Dasa of Saturn... this is when the mind attains this desire. Now, this desire can manifest due to self (mahadasa) or due to ones associates (antaradasa). Prayantara dasa is out of the question. The antara dasa only becomes capable if the mahadasa isn't obstructing the antaradasa graha. Yes, its the fourth type of sambandha. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com sushmagupta51 wrote: !Om Gurveh Namah! Dear Shri Visti ji, Namaskar! Thank you for your continued guidance. Saturn is aspecting Aries and Mars is in Capricorn. Saturn has the desire to complete the parivartan but is unable to do so. It is the desire of Saturn causing the sambandha. I have a few questions: Is this(desire) the reason the sambandha manifests in VD of Saturn? Can the sambandha activate under AD of Saturn? Is this ( partial parivartan ) also a, 4th type of sambandha you mentioned below? Let me know when you get a moment. Warm regards, Pranav Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Pranav, Namaskar Correction: there are four types of sambandha mentioned by Parasara Muni: Parivartana Yuti (conjunction) Mutual dristi between planets Dristi on each others signs Those caused by graha dristi are temporary and manifest during the udu dasa of the planet who is causing the graha dristi. The other two are permanent in nature, but their effects get more pronounced during the dasa. In case of Sri Rama's chart, the Iccha Shakti arises during Shani's vimsottari dasa. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com sushmagupta51 wrote: !Om Gurveh Namah! Dear Friends and learneds, Namaskar! There are 3 types of relationships described in texts - Parivartan , Conjunction and third type of relation, where one planet in the house of other and the Other aspecting the house owned by first planet. Classic example given is in Lord Shri Ram's chart, Mars(5th and 10th lord) in Capricorn and Saturn(7th and 8th Lord) in Libra aspecting Aries. It was said in one of the lectures that this relationship is a weak one and manifests due to Iccha Shakti. I will appreciate if any one can enlighten me when (what dasha) does this type of relationship manifests and what are the effects? (If possible please use an example) Warm regards, Pranav Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta. Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta. Have a burning question? Go to Answers and get answers from real people who know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 ??? ??? ?????? Dear Pratosh, Namaskar The parivartana is between the 10th and 7th houses, and among the two Arudha lagna is placed in the 10th, hence, that must be the focus. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> sushmagupta51 wrote: > !Om Gurveh Namah! > > Dear Shri Visti ji, Namaskar! > > Thank you for the nice explanation, One last qn : > > How do we determine the focus of these kinds of partial parivartan? > (In this particular case it was 7th house ) > > I am unable to reason why: > - Mars exaltation and Saturn akin debilitation? or > - desire of Saturn (its even more with Retrogradation) ? or > > let me know when you get a moment. > > Thank you for your continued guidance. > > Warm Regards, > Pranav > > */Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>/* wrote: > > > ??? ??? ?????? > Dear Pranav, Namaskar > Because it is the desire of Saturn which completes the > parivartana, the desire manifests during the Dasa of Saturn... > this is when the mind attains this desire. Now, this desire can > manifest due to self (mahadasa) or due to ones associates > (antaradasa) . Prayantara dasa is out of the question. The antara > dasa only becomes capable if the mahadasa isn't obstructing the > antaradasa graha. > Yes, its the fourth type of sambandha. > Yours sincerely, > -- > Visti Larsen > email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > <http://srigaruda.com/> > > > sushmagupta51 wrote: >> !Om Gurveh Namah! >> >> Dear Shri Visti ji, Namaskar! >> >> Thank you for your continued guidance. >> >> Saturn is aspecting Aries and Mars is in Capricorn. Saturn has >> the desire to complete the parivartan but is unable to do so. It >> is the desire of Saturn causing the sambandha. >> >> I have a few questions: >> >> 1. Is this(desire) the reason the sambandha manifests in VD of >> Saturn? >> 2. Can the sambandha activate under AD of Saturn? >> 3. Is this ( partial parivartan ) also a, 4th type of >> sambandha you mentioned below? >> >> Let me know when you get a moment. >> >> Warm regards, >> Pranav >> >> */Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> >> <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>/* wrote: >> >> >> ??? ??? ?????? >> Dear Pranav, Namaskar >> Correction: there are four types of sambandha mentioned by >> Parasara Muni: >> >> 1. Parivartana >> 2. Yuti (conjunction) >> 3. Mutual dristi between planets >> 4. Dristi on each others signs >> >> Those caused by graha dristi are temporary and manifest >> during the udu dasa of the planet who is causing the graha >> dristi. The other two are permanent in nature, but their >> effects get more pronounced during the dasa. In case of Sri >> Rama's chart, the Iccha Shakti arises during Shani's >> vimsottari dasa. >> >> Yours sincerely, >> -- >> Visti Larsen >> email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> >> For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com >> <http://srigaruda.com/> >> >> >> sushmagupta51 wrote: >>> !Om Gurveh Namah! >>> >>> Dear Friends and learneds, Namaskar! >>> >>> There are 3 types of relationships described in texts - >>> Parivartan , Conjunction and third type of relation, >>> where one planet in the house of other and the Other >>> aspecting the house owned by first planet. >>> >>> Classic example given is in Lord Shri Ram's chart, Mars(5th >>> and 10th lord) in Capricorn and Saturn(7th and 8th Lord) in >>> Libra aspecting Aries. It was said in one of the lectures >>> that this relationship is a weak one and manifests due to >>> Iccha Shakti. >>> >>> I will appreciate if any one can enlighten me when (what >>> dasha) does this type of relationship manifests and what are >>> the effects? (If possible please use an example) >>> >>> Warm regards, >>> Pranav >>> Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta. >>> <http://us.rd./evt=42297/*http://advision.webevents./mailbeta> >>> >> >> >> Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta. >> <http://us.rd./evt=42297/*http://advision.webevents./mailbeta> >> > > > Have a burning question? Go to Answers > <http://answers./;_ylc=X3oDMTFvbGNhMGE3BF9TAzM5NjU0NTEwOARfcwMzOTY1NDUxMDMEc2VjA21haWxfdGFnbGluZQRzbGsDbWFpbF90YWcx> > and get answers from real people who know. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.