Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 To All Members: In the Srimad Bhagavatam, a story is narrated about a woman named Diti. She vowed to have a child who would kill Indra, the king of the demigods. She made this ominous vow because Indra had previously killed her two previous sons. In order to carry out this plan, she made herself alluring and obedient to her husband so that she may conceive such a child. She also told her husband of the plan. After knowing her plan, the husband realized that such plan would not succeed since Indra is the most powerful of all the demigods. To placate his wife, he agreed to conceive such a child under the condition that she follows very strict brahminic rules. If she failed in following any of the rules, the child will be raised to worship Indra. After a few months she became pregnant. Diti was joyous and continued to follow the various stict rules of conduct. Nonetheless, after following these rules, she lost weight and became tired until she forgot to follow the some of the rules, such as brushing her teeth before going to bed. Knowing that Diti committed an infraction, Indra through his yogic powers made himself small as an atom and entered Diti's womb. Indra found the child's embroyo and cut it to 49 pieces with his thunder stick. However, the developing embroyos did not die but matured to healthy babies. These babies ended up becoming followers of Indra. Moral of the Story: Following the strict brahminic rules of conduct can purify one's body to the extent of having sattwic results (children) despite having an evil intention. Applicable Astrological Yoga: According to BV Raman, Rahu in the 5th house and is placed in a benefic navamsha augurs well for having many children. If you have other interpretation of this story, please let us know. Regards, John R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Hello Dr E.W. Iduvacha here. I live with Richard (he¹s very nice) and I share sometimes through his email. John, I would say that the moral of your Diti story John, is that: Don¹t try to take on attachment to the good life with more attachment to the good life. Nope, they are way better at it up there. (Moral: They got powers baby!) Yeah, Indra¹s got it all, he¹s the main man in heaven. He¹s GOT. Period. But one thing he ain¹t GOT is detachment. Cuzz you just can¹t get it. Get it? The one thing better than wealth, fame, strength, knowledge, and beauty, is: Detachment. That¹s Saturn baby, which is planet 7, oh thank heaven, and when you Empower it, 7 to it¹s own power is 49 (a numeric key to the meaning of the story) So hey Diti, next time you¹re pissed off at Hugh Hefner, Michael Jackson, Queen Elizabeth, President Bush, Parliament, the Police, the Army, the World, and Heaven below God, (as opposed to the kind above him), ALL ROLLED UP IN ONE, well, give it up girl. Rather, walk away. It will amaze Indra, he¹ll make a mistake out of curiosity and envy, and when God¹s make mistakes, a BIGGER God comes along to handle them. Vishnu¹s got a workload too. So if you¹re in Iraq, and you want someone taken out, call up the military and ³tell Œem where Bin Laden is² Dr. E.W. Iduvacha Hello, my name and title are: Arch Druid, Drew Straw Just call me Drew. I live with Rick also, he¹s very nice. When I read your story John, I realized that Diti is very angry, and she has decided to employ killing, the same thing her enemy did that pissed her off in the first place. This is not very smart. Two wrongs do not write a make. So, to help Diti, (By the way, is she a friend of yours in a Kibbuts named ³Srimad Bhagavatam² or something?) I offer this: She has a ³Military Industrial Complex². She is complexed out about Indra, so getting Industrious about making a soldier, or a military person, ³Elle² So, let her know these are the things that those words make. Just let her know, I¹m sure she¹ll realize and ³do the right thing².. Peace Drew the Druid Military Industrial Complex Our Distinctly Maximal Peril Culprits Lie, and Mix Morality Orders Multiply Inimical Tax Or -- is Man Implicitly Tax-Ruled? Must Exploit, Raid Criminally Smartly Ruled Politician Mix Mainly Ruled Politics Matrix Climax Nutty Primordial Lies Still Maximal Dunce Priority ps: The views expressed herein belong to the authors, and are not necessarily shared by the holder of this email address, Hindus, Druids, and the sane, and the lichen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 I must say Richard (aka Dr. Iduvacha aka Drew Straw), that was beautifully written.. on so many levels.. Keep up the good work. Tej ________________________________ > valist > das (AT) goravani (DOT) com > Mon, 4 Dec 2006 13:28:56 -0800 > Re: The Woman Who Desired to Kill Indra > > Hello > Dr E.W. Iduvacha here. I live with Richard (he¹s very nice) and I share > sometimes through his email. > John, > I would say that the moral of your Diti story John, is that: > Don¹t try to take on attachment to the good life with more attachment to the > good life. > Nope, they are way better at it up there. (Moral: They got powers baby!) > Yeah, Indra¹s got it all, he¹s the main man in heaven. He¹s GOT. Period. > But one thing he ain¹t GOT is detachment. Cuzz you just can¹t get it. Get > it? > The one thing better than wealth, fame, strength, knowledge, and beauty, is: > Detachment. > That¹s Saturn baby, which is planet 7, oh thank heaven, and when you Empower > it, 7 to it¹s own power is 49 (a numeric key to the meaning of the story) > So hey Diti, next time you¹re pissed off at Hugh Hefner, Michael Jackson, > Queen Elizabeth, President Bush, Parliament, the Police, the Army, the > World, and Heaven below God, (as opposed to the kind above him), ALL ROLLED > UP IN ONE, well, give it up girl. > Rather, walk away. It will amaze Indra, he¹ll make a mistake out of > curiosity and envy, and when God¹s make mistakes, a BIGGER God comes along > to handle them. Vishnu¹s got a workload too. > So if you¹re in Iraq, and you want someone taken out, call up the military > and > ³tell Œem where Bin Laden is² > Dr. E.W. Iduvacha > Hello, my name and title are: > Arch Druid, Drew Straw > Just call me Drew. > I live with Rick also, he¹s very nice. > When I read your story John, I realized that Diti is very angry, and she has > decided to employ killing, the same thing her enemy did that pissed her off > in the first place. This is not very smart. Two wrongs do not write a > make. > So, to help Diti, (By the way, is she a friend of yours in a Kibbuts named > ³Srimad Bhagavatam² or something?) > I offer this: > She has a ³Military Industrial Complex². She is complexed out about Indra, > so getting Industrious about making a soldier, or a military person, ³Elle² > So, let her know these are the things that those words make. > Just let her know, I¹m sure she¹ll realize and ³do the right thing². > Peace > Drew the Druid > Military Industrial Complex > Our Distinctly Maximal Peril > Culprits Lie, and Mix Morality > Orders Multiply Inimical Tax > Or -- is Man Implicitly Tax-Ruled? > Must Exploit, Raid Criminally > Smartly Ruled Politician Mix > Mainly Ruled Politics Matrix > Climax Nutty Primordial Lies > Still Maximal Dunce Priority > ps: The views expressed herein belong to the authors, and are not > necessarily shared by the holder of this email address, Hindus, Druids, and > the sane, and the lichen. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Dear Members, My incredimail keeps slowing down & generally misbehaving since a few days now & just now I received a window saying that Microsoft is about to update with the explorer 7 & incredimail had major compatibility problems with this update therefore in order to continue using incredimail, one must update incredimail NOW! If not then one cannot use incredimail. I did update last week but then I found that the update had deleted several files from microsoft & I had to back date the computer to reinstal those files. If anyone knows what is going on & what might be the solution then please explain, help, offer suggestions to one computer idiot here, in baby language if possible.. I dont want to loose all my past emails & files on incredimail if possible. Greatfully yours. Harii Om ! Shabnam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Thanks for the story John, It makes one think... Richard`s interpretations are simply awesome ! My 2bit contribution would be that if Indra represents the Indrias ( senses ) then Diti probably had high ambitions in wanting sons who would destroy Indra (Indrias ) because she probably realized the reason for the demise of her two sons previously killed by indulging in Indra`s Indrias. & she didnt want to loose anymore sons in this way. & if the # 49 represents Shani as Richard points out, then it maybe that Diti`s slack in following the Bhramanical rules doomed those children into following Indra & experiencing ( Shani`s portfolio includes experiences ) the Indrias. For me the moral of the story is that when the will is weak, any intention is a bad intention. Harii Om ! Shabnam ---- John 12/04/06 20:02:33 valist The Woman Who Desired to Kill Indra To All Members: In the Srimad Bhagavatam, a story is narrated about a woman named Diti. She vowed to have a child who would kill Indra, the king of the demigods. She made this ominous vow because Indra had previously killed her two previous sons. In order to carry out this plan, she made herself alluring and obedient to her husband so that she may conceive such a child. She also told her husband of the plan. After knowing her plan, the husband realized that such plan would not succeed since Indra is the most powerful of all the demigods. To placate his wife, he agreed to conceive such a child under the condition that she follows very strict brahminic rules. If she failed in following any of the rules, the child will be raised to worship Indra. After a few months she became pregnant. Diti was joyous and continued to follow the various stict rules of conduct. Nonetheless, after following these rules, she lost weight and became tired until she forgot to follow the some of the rules, such as brushing her teeth before going to bed. Knowing that Diti committed an infraction, Indra through his yogic powers made himself small as an atom and entered Diti's womb. Indra found the child's embroyo and cut it to 49 pieces with his thunder stick. However, the developing embroyos did not die but matured to healthy babies. These babies ended up becoming followers of Indra. Moral of the Story: Following the strict brahminic rules of conduct can purify one's body to the extent of having sattwic results (children) despite having an evil intention. Applicable Astrological Yoga: According to BV Raman, Rahu in the 5th house and is placed in a benefic navamsha augurs well for having many children. If you have other interpretation of this story, please let us know. Regards, John R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Namaste Shabnam, Your observation is unique in that Indra appears to be the culprit of the story. Nonetheless, I agree that Indra represents the senses. There is a school of thought that states Indra resides in between the absolute and the relative. That is, he may reside in one's physical brain! In order for one to gain the benefits of both worlds, one has to pass through Indra's realm one way or another. There are many angles to this story. Let's wait to hear from the other members' thoughts. Regards, John R. valist, "Bioacoustics" <bioacoustics wrote: > > > Thanks for the story John, > It makes one think... > > Richard`s interpretations are simply awesome ! > > My 2bit contribution would be that if Indra represents the Indrias ( senses > ) then > Diti probably had high ambitions in wanting sons who would destroy Indra > (Indrias ) because she probably > realized the reason for the demise of her two sons previously killed by > indulging in Indra`s Indrias. & she > didnt want to loose anymore sons in this way. > & if the # 49 represents Shani as Richard points out, then it maybe that > Diti`s slack in following the Bhramanical rules > doomed those children into following Indra & experiencing ( Shani`s > portfolio includes experiences ) the Indrias. > > For me the moral of the story is that when the will is weak, any intention > is a bad intention. > > Harii Om ! > Shabnam > > > ---- > > John > 12/04/06 20:02:33 > valist > The Woman Who Desired to Kill Indra > > To All Members: > > In the Srimad Bhagavatam, a story is narrated about a woman named > Diti. She vowed to have a child who would kill Indra, the king of the > demigods. She made this ominous vow because Indra had previously > killed her two previous sons. > > In order to carry out this plan, she made herself alluring and obedient > to her husband so that she may conceive such a child. She also told > her husband of the plan. > > After knowing her plan, the husband realized that such plan would not > succeed since Indra is the most powerful of all the demigods. To > placate his wife, he agreed to conceive such a child under the > condition that she follows very strict brahminic rules. If she failed > in following any of the rules, the child will be raised to worship > Indra. > > After a few months she became pregnant. Diti was joyous and continued > to follow the various stict rules of conduct. Nonetheless, after > following these rules, she lost weight and became tired until she > forgot to follow the some of the rules, such as brushing her teeth > before going to bed. > > Knowing that Diti committed an infraction, Indra through his yogic > powers made himself small as an atom and entered Diti's womb. Indra > found the child's embroyo and cut it to 49 pieces with his thunder > stick. However, the developing embroyos did not die but matured to > healthy babies. These babies ended up becoming followers of Indra. > > Moral of the Story: > > Following the strict brahminic rules of conduct can purify one's body > to the extent of having sattwic results (children) despite having an > evil intention. > > Applicable Astrological Yoga: > > According to BV Raman, Rahu in the 5th house and is placed in a benefic > navamsha augurs well for having many children. > > If you have other interpretation of this story, please let us know. > > Regards, > > John R. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Hi John, I thought Shabnam's post was brilliant. It really worked for me and my western mind. I, too, saw things from Diti's viewpoint - and although I also agreed with Rick that she should not have endulged in vengeful thoughts (a waste of time), I also think that Shabnam's idea that Diti wanted to save her future children is also right and in some way laudable. So then, good for Diti! Shabnam's idea, too, that NOT following the Bhramanical rules condemned her children to following the senses makes much more sense to me than the suggestion that her children turned out 'good' by following the Bhramanical rules (your interpretation). It was in her failure to follow that her children turned out 'good' which didn't make sense to me. So Shabnam's ideas work for me. I don't know Indra, sorry, but any god-like-type who slips into people's womb uninvited to cut anything up is not a nice fellow in my book. Also, we hold against humans being a slave to human emotions but don't hold it against gods who should be able to contain themselves better, don't you think? Please remember that I know nothing about Indra or these stories you tell. I wish I did, but I don't. Understand that I do not mean to offend anyone. I should be silent then, true, but thought I'd throw in my western mind point of view as I do not have any intention of being disrespectful. I am very familiar with the European myths and I must say that the gods in those were choc full of expressing all the 'worst' of human emotions and actions and they got away with it all the time. I wonder if we beat ourselves up too much for being human when we are in fact human! Looks like the gods are human too (in some thoughts and deeds). So who ARE the heros in these stories? If we accept the vengefulness of Diti as NOT being a bad thing (for the moment) I wonder if it opens up for us a whole new more whole-some, accepting, loving way of viewing the world where there are less "us" vs "them" and less "good" vs "bad". Did I just dive into a whole nother deep end? --- John <jr_esq > wrote: > Namaste Shabnam, > > Your observation is unique in that Indra appears to > be the culprit of > the story. Nonetheless, I agree that Indra > represents the senses. > > There is a school of thought that states Indra > resides in between the > absolute and the relative. That is, he may reside > in one's physical > brain! In order for one to gain the benefits of > both worlds, one has > to pass through Indra's realm one way or another. > > There are many angles to this story. Let's wait to > hear from the > other members' thoughts. > > Regards, > > John R. > > > > > valist, "Bioacoustics" > <bioacoustics > wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for the story John, > > It makes one think... > > > > Richard`s interpretations are simply awesome ! > > > > My 2bit contribution would be that if Indra > represents the Indrias > ( senses > > ) then > > Diti probably had high ambitions in wanting sons > who would destroy > Indra > > (Indrias ) because she probably > > realized the reason for the demise of her two sons > previously > killed by > > indulging in Indra`s Indrias. & she > > didnt want to loose anymore sons in this way. > > & if the # 49 represents Shani as Richard points > out, then it maybe > that > > Diti`s slack in following the Bhramanical rules > > doomed those children into following Indra & > experiencing ( Shani`s > > portfolio includes experiences ) the Indrias. > > > > For me the moral of the story is that when the > will is weak, any > intention > > is a bad intention. > > > > Harii Om ! > > Shabnam > > > > > > ---- > > > > John > > 12/04/06 20:02:33 > > valist > > The Woman Who Desired to Kill Indra > > > > To All Members: > > > > In the Srimad Bhagavatam, a story is narrated > about a woman named > > Diti. She vowed to have a child who would kill > Indra, the king of > the > > demigods. She made this ominous vow because Indra > had previously > > killed her two previous sons. > > > > In order to carry out this plan, she made herself > alluring and > obedient > > to her husband so that she may conceive such a > child. She also told > > her husband of the plan. > > > > After knowing her plan, the husband realized that > such plan would > not > > succeed since Indra is the most powerful of all > the demigods. To > > placate his wife, he agreed to conceive such a > child under the > > condition that she follows very strict brahminic > rules. If she > failed > > in following any of the rules, the child will be > raised to worship > > Indra. > > > > After a few months she became pregnant. Diti was > joyous and > continued > > to follow the various stict rules of conduct. > Nonetheless, after > > following these rules, she lost weight and became > tired until she > > forgot to follow the some of the rules, such as > brushing her teeth > > before going to bed. > > > > Knowing that Diti committed an infraction, Indra > through his yogic > > powers made himself small as an atom and entered > Diti's womb. Indra > > found the child's embroyo and cut it to 49 pieces > with his thunder > > stick. However, the developing embroyos did not > die but matured to > > healthy babies. These babies ended up becoming > followers of Indra. > > > > Moral of the Story: > > > > Following the strict brahminic rules of conduct > can purify one's > body > > to the extent of having sattwic results (children) > despite having an > > evil intention. > > > > Applicable Astrological Yoga: > > > > According to BV Raman, Rahu in the 5th house and > is placed in a > benefic > > navamsha augurs well for having many children. > > > > If you have other interpretation of this story, > please let us know. > > > > Regards, > > > > John R. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 Thanks Mary & John, You encourage me to write more .... I think it is a good investment of time & money to read the Hindu Mythology It is amazing & you would enjoy it forever because you will read it as new every time you do. The contents & your understanding will evolve together. It is very interesting reading in itself once you get your head around all those tongue twisting names but what gives the stories a twist of logic & perception for me, is to free these Gods from their ( super ) human like identities & see them only as the embodiment of the principals which they represent. This gives the stories a whole new meaning for me. For example, in John`s story, if we forget Indra the God & only see the Indrias ( senses) which he represents then its not the God Indra who is doing unmentionable things to Diti but rather Diti`s lack of will to persevere with her intention to follow the Brahmanical rules which makes her children too weak willed to overcome their own sensual desires, which given the circumstances, Indra was obliged to reinforce in Diti`s womb. In Richard`s words Diti couldnt detach so they GOT (T ) it ! Richard, you probably know that the Germans call God - GOTT ? I liked that you said Indra has GOT(T) period ! Do you think we can safely say that got ( God ) is the opposite of the word detachment ?? I`m sure that when viewed in this way, Richard`s naration of the " Gang bang would also find another more profound meaning. Since I dont know the story I cannot say but it is an interesting idea to contemplate. I guess to truly do this story any justice, one would have to throw judgement out the window & then look at the principals & intentions at play. In my current opinion, Gods & demons are locked into their behavior patterns precisely because they are limited to their representations of fixed principals while humans can chop & change direction as & when, in accordance to their awareness & tendencies. Its this quality which makes a human birth so much more interesting & painful. OUCH !! Harii Om ! Shabnam ---- Mary Quinn 12/05/06 22:30:12 valist Re: The Woman Who Desired to Kill Indra Hi John, I thought Shabnam's post was brilliant. It really worked for me and my western mind. I, too, saw things from Diti's viewpoint - and although I also agreed with Rick that she should not have endulged in vengeful thoughts (a waste of time), I also think that Shabnam's idea that Diti wanted to save her future children is also right and in some way laudable. So then, good for Diti! Shabnam's idea, too, that NOT following the Bhramanical rules condemned her children to following the senses makes much more sense to me than the suggestion that her children turned out 'good' by following the Bhramanical rules (your interpretation). It was in her failure to follow that her children turned out 'good' which didn't make sense to me. So Shabnam's ideas work for me. I don't know Indra, sorry, but any god-like-type who slips into people's womb uninvited to cut anything up is not a nice fellow in my book. Also, we hold against humans being a slave to human emotions but don't hold it against gods who should be able to contain themselves better, don't you think? Please remember that I know nothing about Indra or these stories you tell. I wish I did, but I don't. Understand that I do not mean to offend anyone. I should be silent then, true, but thought I'd throw in my western mind point of view as I do not have any intention of being disrespectful. I am very familiar with the European myths and I must say that the gods in those were choc full of expressing all the 'worst' of human emotions and actions and they got away with it all the time. I wonder if we beat ourselves up too much for being human when we are in fact human! Looks like the gods are human too (in some thoughts and deeds). So who ARE the heros in these stories? If we accept the vengefulness of Diti as NOT being a bad thing (for the moment) I wonder if it opens up for us a whole new more whole-some, accepting, loving way of viewing the world where there are less "us" vs "them" and less "good" vs "bad". Did I just dive into a whole nother deep end? --- John <jr_esq > wrote: > Namaste Shabnam, > > Your observation is unique in that Indra appears to > be the culprit of > the story. Nonetheless, I agree that Indra > represents the senses. > > There is a school of thought that states Indra > resides in between the > absolute and the relative. That is, he may reside > in one's physical > brain! In order for one to gain the benefits of > both worlds, one has > to pass through Indra's realm one way or another. > > There are many angles to this story. Let's wait to > hear from the > other members' thoughts. > > Regards, > > John R. > > > > > valist, "Bioacoustics" > <bioacoustics > wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for the story John, > > It makes one think... > > > > Richard`s interpretations are simply awesome ! > > > > My 2bit contribution would be that if Indra > represents the Indrias > ( senses > > ) then > > Diti probably had high ambitions in wanting sons > who would destroy > Indra > > (Indrias ) because she probably > > realized the reason for the demise of her two sons > previously > killed by > > indulging in Indra`s Indrias. & she > > didnt want to loose anymore sons in this way. > > & if the # 49 represents Shani as Richard points > out, then it maybe > that > > Diti`s slack in following the Bhramanical rules > > doomed those children into following Indra & > experiencing ( Shani`s > > portfolio includes experiences ) the Indrias. > > > > For me the moral of the story is that when the > will is weak, any > intention > > is a bad intention. > > > > Harii Om ! > > Shabnam > > > > > > ---- > > > > John > > 12/04/06 20:02:33 > > valist > > The Woman Who Desired to Kill Indra > > > > To All Members: > > > > In the Srimad Bhagavatam, a story is narrated > about a woman named > > Diti. She vowed to have a child who would kill > Indra, the king of > the > > demigods. She made this ominous vow because Indra > had previously > > killed her two previous sons. > > > > In order to carry out this plan, she made herself > alluring and > obedient > > to her husband so that she may conceive such a > child. She also told > > her husband of the plan. > > > > After knowing her plan, the husband realized that > such plan would > not > > succeed since Indra is the most powerful of all > the demigods. To > > placate his wife, he agreed to conceive such a > child under the > > condition that she follows very strict brahminic > rules. If she > failed > > in following any of the rules, the child will be > raised to worship > > Indra. > > > > After a few months she became pregnant. Diti was > joyous and > continued > > to follow the various stict rules of conduct. > Nonetheless, after > > following these rules, she lost weight and became > tired until she > > forgot to follow the some of the rules, such as > brushing her teeth > > before going to bed. > > > > Knowing that Diti committed an infraction, Indra > through his yogic > > powers made himself small as an atom and entered > Diti's womb. Indra > > found the child's embroyo and cut it to 49 pieces > with his thunder > > stick. However, the developing embroyos did not > die but matured to > > healthy babies. These babies ended up becoming > followers of Indra. > > > > Moral of the Story: > > > > Following the strict brahminic rules of conduct > can purify one's > body > > to the extent of having sattwic results (children) > despite having an > > evil intention. > > > > Applicable Astrological Yoga: > > > > According to BV Raman, Rahu in the 5th house and > is placed in a > benefic > > navamsha augurs well for having many children. > > > > If you have other interpretation of this story, > please let us know. > > > > Regards, > > > > John R. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 Another member antes up his 2 cents. Diti is a spiritual seeker that has twice given up her quest and succumbed to sensual living as represented by the two sons killed by Indra, demi-god lording over sensual cognition (the Indrias). She vows to kill her attachment to the senses completely. Her inner- wisdom partner (husband) knows this is impossible but allows her to attempt her desire through the practice of strict and austere living. The harshness of orthodoxy eventually depletes her strength and she falls from the unattainable goal. The desire for sense pleasures reaffirms itself (Indra's return), however, because of the power of her tapas, Indra's weapon does not kill her intention, but rather reshapes it, and gives her the power of Shani's detachment (7 x 7) allowing her to live in peace and harmony with the sensory world. Her 49 children become worshippers of Indra which means they are neither killed by, nor slaves to the senses, but rather have a relation of reverence to the manifest world and protection given by that understanding (deities protecting their worshippers). Another view is that Indra's weapon, the thunderbolt of prana, enlivened Diti's 7 main spiritual centers (7 x 7) which raised her consciousness so that she understood God's existence as both immanent and transcendent, and in his immanent presence, the preceiving of the world through the senses is not to be shunned but worshipped as devine. ***** One more thing about the Hindu hierarchy... If you're a Vaishnava then Vishnu sits hgher than Shiva or Parvati as the ultimate being. Conversely, if you're a Shaivite or a Shakta, then Shiva or Shakti are considered the supreme lords, and Vishnu or his incarnations are seen as their subordinate emanations. The followers of the various religions look at various scriptures and each group finds unquestionable documented support for their own belief system. The Advaita Vedantins generally don't believe any of the manifest deities are the true supreme, deferring to the doctrine that only the un- manifest Brahman is ultimately real and all else is Maya. To each his own... Preston valist, "Bioacoustics" <bioacoustics wrote: > > > Thanks for the story John, > It makes one think... > > Richard`s interpretations are simply awesome ! > > My 2bit contribution would be that if Indra represents the Indrias ( senses > ) then > Diti probably had high ambitions in wanting sons who would destroy Indra > (Indrias ) because she probably > realized the reason for the demise of her two sons previously killed by > indulging in Indra`s Indrias. & she > didnt want to loose anymore sons in this way. > & if the # 49 represents Shani as Richard points out, then it maybe that > Diti`s slack in following the Bhramanical rules > doomed those children into following Indra & experiencing ( Shani`s > portfolio includes experiences ) the Indrias. > > For me the moral of the story is that when the will is weak, any intention > is a bad intention. > > Harii Om ! > Shabnam > > > ---- > > John > 12/04/06 20:02:33 > valist > The Woman Who Desired to Kill Indra > > To All Members: > > In the Srimad Bhagavatam, a story is narrated about a woman named > Diti. She vowed to have a child who would kill Indra, the king of the > demigods. She made this ominous vow because Indra had previously > killed her two previous sons. > > In order to carry out this plan, she made herself alluring and obedient > to her husband so that she may conceive such a child. She also told > her husband of the plan. > > After knowing her plan, the husband realized that such plan would not > succeed since Indra is the most powerful of all the demigods. To > placate his wife, he agreed to conceive such a child under the > condition that she follows very strict brahminic rules. If she failed > in following any of the rules, the child will be raised to worship > Indra. > > After a few months she became pregnant. Diti was joyous and continued > to follow the various stict rules of conduct. Nonetheless, after > following these rules, she lost weight and became tired until she > forgot to follow the some of the rules, such as brushing her teeth > before going to bed. > > Knowing that Diti committed an infraction, Indra through his yogic > powers made himself small as an atom and entered Diti's womb. Indra > found the child's embroyo and cut it to 49 pieces with his thunder > stick. However, the developing embroyos did not die but matured to > healthy babies. These babies ended up becoming followers of Indra. > > Moral of the Story: > > Following the strict brahminic rules of conduct can purify one's body > to the extent of having sattwic results (children) despite having an > evil intention. > > Applicable Astrological Yoga: > > According to BV Raman, Rahu in the 5th house and is placed in a benefic > navamsha augurs well for having many children. > > If you have other interpretation of this story, please let us know. > > Regards, > > John R. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 I say Preston, Thats worth a lot more than 2 cents. Thanks Shabnam ---- pegreen123 12/06/06 18:10:29 valist Re: The Woman Who Desired to Kill Indra Another member antes up his 2 cents. Diti is a spiritual seeker that has twice given up her quest and succumbed to sensual living as represented by the two sons killed by Indra, demi-god lording over sensual cognition (the Indrias). She vows to kill her attachment to the senses completely. Her inner- wisdom partner (husband) knows this is impossible but allows her to attempt her desire through the practice of strict and austere living. The harshness of orthodoxy eventually depletes her strength and she falls from the unattainable goal. The desire for sense pleasures reaffirms itself (Indra's return), however, because of the power of her tapas, Indra's weapon does not kill her intention, but rather reshapes it, and gives her the power of Shani's detachment (7 x 7) allowing her to live in peace and harmony with the sensory world. Her 49 children become worshippers of Indra which means they are neither killed by, nor slaves to the senses, but rather have a relation of reverence to the manifest world and protection given by that understanding (deities protecting their worshippers). Another view is that Indra's weapon, the thunderbolt of prana, enlivened Diti's 7 main spiritual centers (7 x 7) which raised her consciousness so that she understood God's existence as both immanent and transcendent, and in his immanent presence, the preceiving of the world through the senses is not to be shunned but worshipped as devine. ***** One more thing about the Hindu hierarchy... If you're a Vaishnava then Vishnu sits hgher than Shiva or Parvati as the ultimate being. Conversely, if you're a Shaivite or a Shakta, then Shiva or Shakti are considered the supreme lords, and Vishnu or his incarnations are seen as their subordinate emanations. The followers of the various religions look at various scriptures and each group finds unquestionable documented support for their own belief system. The Advaita Vedantins generally don't believe any of the manifest deities are the true supreme, deferring to the doctrine that only the un- manifest Brahman is ultimately real and all else is Maya. To each his own... Preston valist, "Bioacoustics" <bioacoustics wrote: > > > Thanks for the story John, > It makes one think... > > Richard`s interpretations are simply awesome ! > > My 2bit contribution would be that if Indra represents the Indrias ( senses > ) then > Diti probably had high ambitions in wanting sons who would destroy Indra > (Indrias ) because she probably > realized the reason for the demise of her two sons previously killed by > indulging in Indra`s Indrias. & she > didnt want to loose anymore sons in this way. > & if the # 49 represents Shani as Richard points out, then it maybe that > Diti`s slack in following the Bhramanical rules > doomed those children into following Indra & experiencing ( Shani`s > portfolio includes experiences ) the Indrias. > > For me the moral of the story is that when the will is weak, any intention > is a bad intention. > > Harii Om ! > Shabnam > > > ---- > > John > 12/04/06 20:02:33 > valist > The Woman Who Desired to Kill Indra > > To All Members: > > In the Srimad Bhagavatam, a story is narrated about a woman named > Diti. She vowed to have a child who would kill Indra, the king of the > demigods. She made this ominous vow because Indra had previously > killed her two previous sons. > > In order to carry out this plan, she made herself alluring and obedient > to her husband so that she may conceive such a child. She also told > her husband of the plan. > > After knowing her plan, the husband realized that such plan would not > succeed since Indra is the most powerful of all the demigods. To > placate his wife, he agreed to conceive such a child under the > condition that she follows very strict brahminic rules. If she failed > in following any of the rules, the child will be raised to worship > Indra. > > After a few months she became pregnant. Diti was joyous and continued > to follow the various stict rules of conduct. Nonetheless, after > following these rules, she lost weight and became tired until she > forgot to follow the some of the rules, such as brushing her teeth > before going to bed. > > Knowing that Diti committed an infraction, Indra through his yogic > powers made himself small as an atom and entered Diti's womb. Indra > found the child's embroyo and cut it to 49 pieces with his thunder > stick. However, the developing embroyos did not die but matured to > healthy babies. These babies ended up becoming followers of Indra. > > Moral of the Story: > > Following the strict brahminic rules of conduct can purify one's body > to the extent of having sattwic results (children) despite having an > evil intention. > > Applicable Astrological Yoga: > > According to BV Raman, Rahu in the 5th house and is placed in a benefic > navamsha augurs well for having many children. > > If you have other interpretation of this story, please let us know. > > Regards, > > John R. > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 Namaste Preston, We appreciate your interpretation of this story. I was thinking about writing something along those lines you expressed. But you beat us to the punch! Bravo! Regards, John R. valist, "Bioacoustics" <bioacoustics wrote: > > I say Preston, > Thats worth a lot more than 2 cents. > Thanks > Shabnam > > ---- > > pegreen123 > 12/06/06 18:10:29 > valist > Re: The Woman Who Desired to Kill Indra > > Another member antes up his 2 cents. > > Diti is a spiritual seeker that has twice given up her quest and > succumbed to sensual living as represented by the two sons killed by > Indra, demi-god lording over sensual cognition (the Indrias). > > She vows to kill her attachment to the senses completely. Her inner- > wisdom partner (husband) knows this is impossible but allows her to > attempt her desire through the practice of strict and austere living. > The harshness of orthodoxy eventually depletes her strength and she > falls from the unattainable goal. The desire for sense pleasures > reaffirms itself (Indra's return), however, because of the power of > her tapas, Indra's weapon does not kill her intention, but rather > reshapes it, and gives her the power of Shani's detachment (7 x 7) > allowing her to live in peace and harmony with the sensory world. Her > 49 children become worshippers of Indra which means they are neither > killed by, nor slaves to the senses, but rather have a relation of > reverence to the manifest world and protection given by that > understanding (deities protecting their worshippers). > > Another view is that Indra's weapon, the thunderbolt of prana, > enlivened Diti's 7 main spiritual centers (7 x 7) which raised her > consciousness so that she understood God's existence as both immanent > and transcendent, and in his immanent presence, the preceiving of the > world through the senses is not to be shunned but worshipped as > devine. > > ***** > > One more thing about the Hindu hierarchy... If you're a Vaishnava > then Vishnu sits hgher than Shiva or Parvati as the ultimate being. > Conversely, if you're a Shaivite or a Shakta, then Shiva or Shakti > are considered the supreme lords, and Vishnu or his incarnations are > seen as their subordinate emanations. The followers of the various > religions look at various scriptures and each group finds > unquestionable documented support for their own belief system. The > Advaita Vedantins generally don't believe any of the manifest deities > are the true supreme, deferring to the doctrine that only the un- > manifest Brahman is ultimately real and all else is Maya. > > To each his own... > > Preston > > valist, "Bioacoustics" <bioacoustics@> > wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for the story John, > > It makes one think... > > > > Richard`s interpretations are simply awesome ! > > > > My 2bit contribution would be that if Indra represents the Indrias > ( senses > > ) then > > Diti probably had high ambitions in wanting sons who would destroy > Indra > > (Indrias ) because she probably > > realized the reason for the demise of her two sons previously > killed by > > indulging in Indra`s Indrias. & she > > didnt want to loose anymore sons in this way. > > & if the # 49 represents Shani as Richard points out, then it maybe > that > > Diti`s slack in following the Bhramanical rules > > doomed those children into following Indra & experiencing ( Shani`s > > portfolio includes experiences ) the Indrias. > > > > For me the moral of the story is that when the will is weak, any > intention > > is a bad intention. > > > > Harii Om ! > > Shabnam > > > > > > ---- > > > > John > > 12/04/06 20:02:33 > > valist > > The Woman Who Desired to Kill Indra > > > > To All Members: > > > > In the Srimad Bhagavatam, a story is narrated about a woman named > > Diti. She vowed to have a child who would kill Indra, the king of > the > > demigods. She made this ominous vow because Indra had previously > > killed her two previous sons. > > > > In order to carry out this plan, she made herself alluring and > obedient > > to her husband so that she may conceive such a child. She also told > > her husband of the plan. > > > > After knowing her plan, the husband realized that such plan would > not > > succeed since Indra is the most powerful of all the demigods. To > > placate his wife, he agreed to conceive such a child under the > > condition that she follows very strict brahminic rules. If she > failed > > in following any of the rules, the child will be raised to worship > > Indra. > > > > After a few months she became pregnant. Diti was joyous and > continued > > to follow the various stict rules of conduct. Nonetheless, after > > following these rules, she lost weight and became tired until she > > forgot to follow the some of the rules, such as brushing her teeth > > before going to bed. > > > > Knowing that Diti committed an infraction, Indra through his yogic > > powers made himself small as an atom and entered Diti's womb. Indra > > found the child's embroyo and cut it to 49 pieces with his thunder > > stick. However, the developing embroyos did not die but matured to > > healthy babies. These babies ended up becoming followers of Indra. > > > > Moral of the Story: > > > > Following the strict brahminic rules of conduct can purify one's > body > > to the extent of having sattwic results (children) despite having an > > evil intention. > > > > Applicable Astrological Yoga: > > > > According to BV Raman, Rahu in the 5th house and is placed in a > benefic > > navamsha augurs well for having many children. > > > > If you have other interpretation of this story, please let us know. > > > > Regards, > > > > John R. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 Hey Preston, Has your head swelled too much? Can you stand kudos from me too? I thought the story was interesting but I find it much more so now that you, Rick, Shabnam and John explained it. I didn't know who any of these people were (and the husband merely struck me as duplicious) until you all started adding on layers of interesting stuff. Thank you John for starting such an interesting discussion! --- John <jr_esq > wrote: > Namaste Preston, > > We appreciate your interpretation of this story. I > was thinking > about writing something along those lines you > expressed. But you > beat us to the punch! Bravo! > > Regards, > > John R. > > > > > valist, "Bioacoustics" > <bioacoustics > wrote: > > > > I say Preston, > > Thats worth a lot more than 2 cents. > > Thanks > > Shabnam > > > > ---- > > > > pegreen123 > > 12/06/06 18:10:29 > > valist > > Re: The Woman Who Desired to Kill > Indra > > > > Another member antes up his 2 cents. > > > > Diti is a spiritual seeker that has twice given up > her quest and > > succumbed to sensual living as represented by the > two sons killed by > > Indra, demi-god lording over sensual cognition > (the Indrias). > > > > She vows to kill her attachment to the senses > completely. Her inner- > > wisdom partner (husband) knows this is impossible > but allows her to > > attempt her desire through the practice of strict > and austere > living. > > The harshness of orthodoxy eventually depletes her > strength and she > > falls from the unattainable goal. The desire for > sense pleasures > > reaffirms itself (Indra's return), however, > because of the power of > > her tapas, Indra's weapon does not kill her > intention, but rather > > reshapes it, and gives her the power of Shani's > detachment (7 x 7) > > allowing her to live in peace and harmony with the > sensory world. > Her > > 49 children become worshippers of Indra which > means they are neither > > killed by, nor slaves to the senses, but rather > have a relation of > > reverence to the manifest world and protection > given by that > > understanding (deities protecting their > worshippers). > > > > Another view is that Indra's weapon, the > thunderbolt of prana, > > enlivened Diti's 7 main spiritual centers (7 x 7) > which raised her > > consciousness so that she understood God's > existence as both > immanent > > and transcendent, and in his immanent presence, > the preceiving of > the > > world through the senses is not to be shunned but > worshipped as > > devine. > > > > ***** > > > > One more thing about the Hindu hierarchy... If > you're a Vaishnava > > then Vishnu sits hgher than Shiva or Parvati as > the ultimate being. > > Conversely, if you're a Shaivite or a Shakta, then > Shiva or Shakti > > are considered the supreme lords, and Vishnu or > his incarnations are > > seen as their subordinate emanations. The > followers of the various > > religions look at various scriptures and each > group finds > > unquestionable documented support for their own > belief system. The > > Advaita Vedantins generally don't believe any of > the manifest > deities > > are the true supreme, deferring to the doctrine > that only the un- > > manifest Brahman is ultimately real and all else > is Maya. > > > > To each his own... > > > > Preston > > > > valist, "Bioacoustics" > <bioacoustics@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the story John, > > > It makes one think... > > > > > > Richard`s interpretations are simply awesome ! > > > > > > My 2bit contribution would be that if Indra > represents the Indrias > > ( senses > > > ) then > > > Diti probably had high ambitions in wanting sons > who would destroy > > Indra > > > (Indrias ) because she probably > > > realized the reason for the demise of her two > sons previously > > killed by > > > indulging in Indra`s Indrias. & she > > > didnt want to loose anymore sons in this way. > > > & if the # 49 represents Shani as Richard points > out, then it > maybe > > that > > > Diti`s slack in following the Bhramanical rules > > > doomed those children into following Indra & > experiencing ( > Shani`s > > > portfolio includes experiences ) the Indrias. > > > > > > For me the moral of the story is that when the > will is weak, any > > intention > > > is a bad intention. > > > > > > Harii Om ! > > > Shabnam > > > > > > > > > ---- > > > > > > John > > > 12/04/06 20:02:33 > > > valist > > > The Woman Who Desired to Kill > Indra > > > > > > To All Members: > > > > > > In the Srimad Bhagavatam, a story is narrated > about a woman named > > > Diti. She vowed to have a child who would kill > Indra, the king of > > the > > > demigods. She made this ominous vow because > Indra had previously > > > killed her two previous sons. > > > > > > In order to carry out this plan, she made > herself alluring and > > obedient > > > to her husband so that she may conceive such a > child. She also > told > > > her husband of the plan. > > > > > > After knowing her plan, the husband realized > that such plan would > > not > > > succeed since Indra is the most powerful of all > the demigods. To > > > placate his wife, he agreed to conceive such a > child under the > > > condition that she follows very strict brahminic > rules. If she > > failed > > > in following any of the rules, the child will be > raised to worship > > > Indra. > > > > > > After a few months she became pregnant. Diti > was joyous and > > continued > > > to follow the various stict rules of conduct. > Nonetheless, after > > > following these rules, she lost weight and > became tired until she > > > forgot to follow the some of the rules, such as > brushing her teeth > > > before going to bed. > > > > > > Knowing that Diti committed an infraction, Indra > through his yogic > > > powers made himself small as an atom and entered > Diti's womb. > Indra > > > found the child's embroyo and cut it to 49 > pieces with his thunder > > > stick. However, the developing embroyos did not > die but matured > to > > > healthy babies. These babies ended up becoming > followers of > Indra. > > > > > > Moral of the Story: > > > > > > Following the strict brahminic rules of conduct > can purify one's > > body > > > to the extent of having sattwic results > (children) despite having > an > > > evil intention. > > > > > > Applicable Astrological Yoga: > > > > > > According to BV Raman, Rahu in the 5th house and > is placed in a > > benefic > > > navamsha augurs well for having many children. > > > > > > If you have other interpretation of this story, > please let us > know. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > John R. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 Namaste Mary, You have shown us your royal heart. You have made this discussion lively as well. Perhaps, we can raise some other topics for further commentaries in the near future. Regards, John R. valist, Mary Quinn <mary1quinn wrote: > > Hey Preston, > > Has your head swelled too much? Can you stand kudos > from me too? > > I thought the story was interesting but I find it much > more so now that you, Rick, Shabnam and John explained > it. I didn't know who any of these people were (and > the husband merely struck me as duplicious) until you > all started adding on layers of interesting stuff. > > Thank you John for starting such an interesting > discussion! > > > --- John <jr_esq wrote: > > > Namaste Preston, > > > > We appreciate your interpretation of this story. I > > was thinking > > about writing something along those lines you > > expressed. But you > > beat us to the punch! Bravo! > > > > Regards, > > > > John R. > > > > > > > > > > valist, "Bioacoustics" > > <bioacoustics@> > > wrote: > > > > > > I say Preston, > > > Thats worth a lot more than 2 cents. > > > Thanks > > > Shabnam > > > > > > ---- > > > > > > pegreen123 > > > 12/06/06 18:10:29 > > > valist > > > Re: The Woman Who Desired to Kill > > Indra > > > > > > Another member antes up his 2 cents. > > > > > > Diti is a spiritual seeker that has twice given up > > her quest and > > > succumbed to sensual living as represented by the > > two sons killed by > > > Indra, demi-god lording over sensual cognition > > (the Indrias). > > > > > > She vows to kill her attachment to the senses > > completely. Her inner- > > > wisdom partner (husband) knows this is impossible > > but allows her to > > > attempt her desire through the practice of strict > > and austere > > living. > > > The harshness of orthodoxy eventually depletes her > > strength and she > > > falls from the unattainable goal. The desire for > > sense pleasures > > > reaffirms itself (Indra's return), however, > > because of the power of > > > her tapas, Indra's weapon does not kill her > > intention, but rather > > > reshapes it, and gives her the power of Shani's > > detachment (7 x 7) > > > allowing her to live in peace and harmony with the > > sensory world. > > Her > > > 49 children become worshippers of Indra which > > means they are neither > > > killed by, nor slaves to the senses, but rather > > have a relation of > > > reverence to the manifest world and protection > > given by that > > > understanding (deities protecting their > > worshippers). > > > > > > Another view is that Indra's weapon, the > > thunderbolt of prana, > > > enlivened Diti's 7 main spiritual centers (7 x 7) > > which raised her > > > consciousness so that she understood God's > > existence as both > > immanent > > > and transcendent, and in his immanent presence, > > the preceiving of > > the > > > world through the senses is not to be shunned but > > worshipped as > > > devine. > > > > > > ***** > > > > > > One more thing about the Hindu hierarchy... If > > you're a Vaishnava > > > then Vishnu sits hgher than Shiva or Parvati as > > the ultimate being. > > > Conversely, if you're a Shaivite or a Shakta, then > > Shiva or Shakti > > > are considered the supreme lords, and Vishnu or > > his incarnations are > > > seen as their subordinate emanations. The > > followers of the various > > > religions look at various scriptures and each > > group finds > > > unquestionable documented support for their own > > belief system. The > > > Advaita Vedantins generally don't believe any of > > the manifest > > deities > > > are the true supreme, deferring to the doctrine > > that only the un- > > > manifest Brahman is ultimately real and all else > > is Maya. > > > > > > To each his own... > > > > > > Preston > > > > > > valist, "Bioacoustics" > > <bioacoustics@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the story John, > > > > It makes one think... > > > > > > > > Richard`s interpretations are simply awesome ! > > > > > > > > My 2bit contribution would be that if Indra > > represents the Indrias > > > ( senses > > > > ) then > > > > Diti probably had high ambitions in wanting sons > > who would destroy > > > Indra > > > > (Indrias ) because she probably > > > > realized the reason for the demise of her two > > sons previously > > > killed by > > > > indulging in Indra`s Indrias. & she > > > > didnt want to loose anymore sons in this way. > > > > & if the # 49 represents Shani as Richard points > > out, then it > > maybe > > > that > > > > Diti`s slack in following the Bhramanical rules > > > > doomed those children into following Indra & > > experiencing ( > > Shani`s > > > > portfolio includes experiences ) the Indrias. > > > > > > > > For me the moral of the story is that when the > > will is weak, any > > > intention > > > > is a bad intention. > > > > > > > > Harii Om ! > > > > Shabnam > > > > > > > > > > > > ---- > > > > > > > > John > > > > 12/04/06 20:02:33 > > > > valist > > > > The Woman Who Desired to Kill > > Indra > > > > > > > > To All Members: > > > > > > > > In the Srimad Bhagavatam, a story is narrated > > about a woman named > > > > Diti. She vowed to have a child who would kill > > Indra, the king of > > > the > > > > demigods. She made this ominous vow because > > Indra had previously > > > > killed her two previous sons. > > > > > > > > In order to carry out this plan, she made > > herself alluring and > > > obedient > > > > to her husband so that she may conceive such a > > child. She also > > told > > > > her husband of the plan. > > > > > > > > After knowing her plan, the husband realized > > that such plan would > > > not > > > > succeed since Indra is the most powerful of all > > the demigods. To > > > > placate his wife, he agreed to conceive such a > > child under the > > > > condition that she follows very strict brahminic > > rules. If she > > > failed > > > > in following any of the rules, the child will be > > raised to worship > > > > Indra. > > > > > > > > After a few months she became pregnant. Diti > > was joyous and > > > continued > > > > to follow the various stict rules of conduct. > > Nonetheless, after > > > > following these rules, she lost weight and > > became tired until she > > > > forgot to follow the some of the rules, such as > > brushing her teeth > > > > before going to bed. > > > > > > > > Knowing that Diti committed an infraction, Indra > > through his yogic > > > > powers made himself small as an atom and entered > > Diti's womb. > > Indra > > > > found the child's embroyo and cut it to 49 > > pieces with his thunder > > > > stick. However, the developing embroyos did not > > die but matured > > to > > > > healthy babies. These babies ended up becoming > > followers of > > Indra. > > > > > > > > Moral of the Story: > > > > > > > > Following the strict brahminic rules of conduct > > can purify one's > > > body > > > > to the extent of having sattwic results > > (children) despite having > > an > > > > evil intention. > > > > > > > > Applicable Astrological Yoga: > > > > > > > > According to BV Raman, Rahu in the 5th house and > > is placed in a > > > benefic > > > > navamsha augurs well for having many children. > > > > > > > > If you have other interpretation of this story, > > please let us > > know. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > John R. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.