Chart of Wife of Gordon Brown/Other child of Gordon Brown

[Guest guest]

OM Datta Guru

 

Dear Margaret,

 

Thanks for your mail.

 

1) I presume James Brown has one elder sibling, would u have the chart

of his.

 

I think I read the very first child of Brown, there was miscarriage

right?

 

2) Would u have chart of Wife of Gordon Brown.

 

Kind regards,

 

Sunil John

 

Mumbai

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, "Marg" <margie9 wrote:

>

 

> thanks for these yogas, I ran PL6 yogas as well they too show poor

mortality but sometimes astrologers have done work which can bring new

things to light which was why I asked the list to comment, so thanks for

these insights

> love M

> -

> suniljohn_2002

>

> Saturday, December 02, 2006 9:27 AM

> Child of Gordon Brown with cystic

fibrosis/Yogas

>

>

>

> OM Datta Guru

>

> Dear Margaret

>

> This is clear now, by entering 9 am 'Directly' in all softwares Jhora,

> Goravani, Kala, Shri Jyoti star one gets 10Le the correct Lagna.

>

> The condition is bad and one can see from various angles , most

planets

> are getting afflicted and contributing to ill health. Others might

have

> already contributed to the thread.

>

> BUT What is interesting is one might find in this chart

>

> a) Aristha Yoga

>

> b) Aristha Matibhramana Yoga

>

> c) Arishta Harshamoha Yoga

>

> d) Alpayu Yoga

>

> e) Yogaristha Yoga (Jataka Parijata I think)

>

> &

>

> 1) Arishta Bhanga Yoga (wonder if this paworks)

>

> 2) Purnayu yoga - 3

>

> Does this disease also have effect later in life as to blindness or

> night blindness.

>

> Regards

>

> Sunil

>

> , "Marg" margie9@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sunil

> >

> > nutshell version

> > DOB 17/7/2006

> > TOB: 09:00 British Summer Time BST or DST some call it nowadays

> > TZ: 00

> > LONG 03W13

> > LAT: 55N57

> > longer version as to why are wherefores which might help you correct

> entering data to your prog for right lagna now follows:

> >

> > The timezone is something different to the longitude and latitude,

> though of course the two latter influence the TZ.

> >

> > TZ is the amount of hours difference from GMT of the birth time, and

> refers to the hourly difference across the different time zones in the

> world, so for India I think it is five hours which would be placed in

> this field to show the TZ of India to UK which is where all planetary

> times for planets is calaculated for in ephemeris used in astro

> programmes.. So east or west does not apply to this data input, though

> the hourly difference is affected by those directions, whihc is why

you

> alter yur watch when travelling out of India to callibrate with the

time

> zone of the country you are visiting.

> > Since the time given is according to GMT then there is no need to

play

> with time zones in the TZ data entry field.

> > Try this DOB :17/7/2006

> > TOB: 09:00 which is British Summer Time where we add one hour to

help

> us imagine we get extra daytime (:-)), some progs tell you this

> automatically and deduct the hour of added BST to get the GMT of

08:00,

> but if not then just key in GMT 08:00

> > TZ: 00

> > LONG: 03:12 some give 13 mins of long

> > LAT: 55:57 again the minutes of long may vary it all depends which

> atlas the programmer took the data from, and all atlases very when it

> comes to minutes of arc or longitude

> > -

> > suniljohn_2002

> >

> > Friday, December 01, 2006 5:48 PM

> > child of Gordon Brown with cystic

> fibrosis/correct lagna deg 2

> >

> >

> >

> > OM Datta Guru

> >

> > Dear Marg,

> >

> > Checked with Shri Jyoti star too & it is giving 00Le53 (othres gave

> > 00Le54)

> >

> > Their I used birth data as

> >

> > James Brown (son of Gordon Brown)

> >

> > Natal Chart

> >

> > July 17, 2006

> > Time: 8:00:00

> > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)

> > Place: 3 W 12' 00", 55 N 57' 00"

> > Edinburgh, United Kingdom

> >

> > Pls confirm

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Sunil

> >

> > , "jjnet2000_in" jjnet2000_in@

> > wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > OM Datta Guru

> > >

> > > Dear Margaret,

> > >

> > > Thanks for sharing data.

> > >

> > > I still do not understand what is cystic fibrosis, though from ur

> > other

> > > mail I thought it was lungs

> > >

> > > A) I hope this doesn't discomfort u in re-explaining, but from

where

> > > does the disease 'Start' in the body

> > >

> > > B) U wrote 10 le as lagna but with Jhora, Goravani & Kala - all 3

> > > softwares am getting 0Le54 (0 deg) - am sorry I seem to be losing

> > faith

> > > in softwares & hence cross check it with 2-3 at a time

> > >

> > > C) Can you kindly indicate the source of time of birth (newspaper,

> > birth

> > > certificate) though still it could be Cancer lagna birth also if

it

> is

> > > at 0 le at all.

> > >

> > > D) Does Gordon Brown have fiery speeches or sweetness in speech

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Margaret

> > >

> > >

> > > , "Marg" margie9@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sharat, Chandrashekhar and Rampriya,

> > > >

> > > > Thank you for all responses they were very interesting to read,

I

> > > haven't yet had time to study this in full, though in light of

what

> I

> > > said about Gordon Brown's chart earlier I am not surprised there

> > should

> > > be these afflictions, though clearly science makes many advances.

> > > >

> > > > I can't see from these planets positions how we would predict

his

> > > father being such a major figure in the government either?

> > > >

> > > > The lagna is 10 46 leo with Lahiri and calc by PL6, and I would

> have

> > > held out more hope had there been a benefic in kendra, though

> > obviously

> > > Mars in lagna as ninth lord must bring some benefits surely. The

Sun

> > is

> > > very afflicted by Saturn and Mer, very weak in 12fth and moving

from

> > > water to fire sign also which is not a good time so many stays in

> > > hospital are omened I think.

> > > >

> > > > Apparently with cystic fibrosis children need a lot of

> > physiotherapy,

> > > I don't know much about the disease, but clearly it is not one

which

> > is

> > > easily thrown off.

> > > >

> > > > Any other comments about this chart or of those with similar

> > > conditions most welcome

> > > > best wishes

> > > > margaret

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > Sharat

> > > >

> > > > Thursday, November 30, 2006 6:20 PM

> > > > Re: chart of child with cystic fibrosis

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji,

> > > > For James Brown, TOB 17/08/2006 0800 HRS( 1:0:0: East of GMT),

> > > Edinburgh, Scotland

> > > >

> > > > It is Leo rising, with Mars in Lagan, Lgnesh is in 12 H with Sa

> and

> > > reg Me.

> > > > Ju is in 3 H and is aspecting 9H of Bhagya.

> > > > Mo is in 8H conjunct with Ra, in Meen rashi ( Jal tatwa) which

may

> > > explain his having Cystic Fibrosis( drying up of secretions) since

> > > birth.

> > > > There is also a partial grah malika yog beginning from Venus(

thus

> > > affliction at birth) and ending with Ju.

> > > > The key thus lies with Ju which will be the guiding force in his

> > life.

> > > >

> > > > This is the chart I get, is it not the right one?

> > > > Please guide me if I am wrong.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > Sharat

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > >

> > > > Thursday, November 30, 2006 5:23 PM

> > > > Re: chart of child with cystic fibrosis

> > > >

> > > > Dear Margaret,

> > > >

> > > > With Jupiter occupying a Kendra and aspecting the 8th bhava, let

> us

> > > hope

> > > > the child will have a good length of life. The fact that he has

> the

> > > > problems at birth are in line with Moon occupying the 8th bhava,

> but

> > > > being lagnesha, should give a good physique when the child

> recovers.

> > > >

> > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > >

> > > > Marg wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear List,

> > > > >

> > > > > The news has just sadly been broken that Gordon Brown's second

> son

> > > > > James Fraser Brown, has cystic fibrosis.

> > > > >

> > > > > James Fraser Brown was born 17th July 2006, at Edinburgh Royal

> > > > > hospital, 08:00 am GMT (09:00am BST)

> > > > >

> > > > > Cystic fibrosis is the most commonly diagnosed condition of

one

> in

> > > > > five in white European babies, and currently life expectancy

is

> > > thirty

> > > > > to forty years only. The Chancellor is hoping that gene

research

> > > will

> > > > > uncover cures that will extend his son's life.

> > > > >

> > > > > The Brown's now live above number ten Downing Street, the

> official

> > > > > residence of the Prime Minister, due to the need for

additional

> > > > > security for the young family.

> > > > >

> > > > > Does anyone see in his natal chart any hope for the

prolongation

> > of

> > > > > the little baby's life, and the removal of the condition?

> > > > >

> > > > > best wishes

> > > > > margaret

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Sunil

 

Yes he did lose the first daughter within hours of her birth, Jennifer was born 28 December 2001 and John was born on 2 October 2003, but I have no birth time for either.

 

I don't have the chart of Gordon Brown's wife, but I will keep looking for this,

best wishes Margaret

-

suniljohn_2002

Tuesday, December 05, 2006 6:22 AM

Chart of Wife of Gordon Brown/Other child of Gordon Brown

 

 

 

OM Datta Guru

 

Dear Margaret,

 

Thanks for your mail.

 

1) I presume James Brown has one elder sibling, would u have the chart

of his.

 

I think I read the very first child of Brown, there was miscarriage

right?

 

2) Would u have chart of Wife of Gordon Brown.

 

Kind regards,

 

Sunil John

 

Mumbai

 

, "Marg" <margie9 wrote:

>

 

> thanks for these yogas, I ran PL6 yogas as well they too show poor

mortality but sometimes astrologers have done work which can bring new

things to light which was why I asked the list to comment, so thanks for

these insights

> love M

> -

> suniljohn_2002

>

> Saturday, December 02, 2006 9:27 AM

> Child of Gordon Brown with cystic

fibrosis/Yogas

>

>

>

> OM Datta Guru

>

> Dear Margaret

>

> This is clear now, by entering 9 am 'Directly' in all softwares Jhora,

> Goravani, Kala, Shri Jyoti star one gets 10Le the correct Lagna.

>

> The condition is bad and one can see from various angles , most

planets

> are getting afflicted and contributing to ill health. Others might

have

> already contributed to the thread.

>

> BUT What is interesting is one might find in this chart

>

> a) Aristha Yoga

>

> b) Aristha Matibhramana Yoga

>

> c) Arishta Harshamoha Yoga

>

> d) Alpayu Yoga

>

> e) Yogaristha Yoga (Jataka Parijata I think)

>

> &

>

> 1) Arishta Bhanga Yoga (wonder if this paworks)

>

> 2) Purnayu yoga - 3

>

> Does this disease also have effect later in life as to blindness or

> night blindness.

>

> Regards

>

> Sunil

>

> , "Marg" margie9@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sunil

> >

> > nutshell version

> > DOB 17/7/2006

> > TOB: 09:00 British Summer Time BST or DST some call it nowadays

> > TZ: 00

> > LONG 03W13

> > LAT: 55N57

> > longer version as to why are wherefores which might help you correct

> entering data to your prog for right lagna now follows:

> >

> > The timezone is something different to the longitude and latitude,

> though of course the two latter influence the TZ.

> >

> > TZ is the amount of hours difference from GMT of the birth time, and

> refers to the hourly difference across the different time zones in the

> world, so for India I think it is five hours which would be placed in

> this field to show the TZ of India to UK which is where all planetary

> times for planets is calaculated for in ephemeris used in astro

> programmes.. So east or west does not apply to this data input, though

> the hourly difference is affected by those directions, whihc is why

you

> alter yur watch when travelling out of India to callibrate with the

time

> zone of the country you are visiting.

> > Since the time given is according to GMT then there is no need to

play

> with time zones in the TZ data entry field.

> > Try this DOB :17/7/2006

> > TOB: 09:00 which is British Summer Time where we add one hour to

help

> us imagine we get extra daytime (:-)), some progs tell you this

> automatically and deduct the hour of added BST to get the GMT of

08:00,

> but if not then just key in GMT 08:00

> > TZ: 00

> > LONG: 03:12 some give 13 mins of long

> > LAT: 55:57 again the minutes of long may vary it all depends which

> atlas the programmer took the data from, and all atlases very when it

> comes to minutes of arc or longitude

> > -

> > suniljohn_2002

> >

> > Friday, December 01, 2006 5:48 PM

> > child of Gordon Brown with cystic

> fibrosis/correct lagna deg 2

> >

> >

> >

> > OM Datta Guru

> >

> > Dear Marg,

> >

> > Checked with Shri Jyoti star too & it is giving 00Le53 (othres gave

> > 00Le54)

> >

> > Their I used birth data as

> >

> > James Brown (son of Gordon Brown)

> >

> > Natal Chart

> >

> > July 17, 2006

> > Time: 8:00:00

> > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)

> > Place: 3 W 12' 00", 55 N 57' 00"

> > Edinburgh, United Kingdom

> >

> > Pls confirm

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Sunil

> >

> > , "jjnet2000_in" jjnet2000_in@

> > wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > OM Datta Guru

> > >

> > > Dear Margaret,

> > >

> > > Thanks for sharing data.

> > >

> > > I still do not understand what is cystic fibrosis, though from ur

> > other

> > > mail I thought it was lungs

> > >

> > > A) I hope this doesn't discomfort u in re-explaining, but from

where

> > > does the disease 'Start' in the body

> > >

> > > B) U wrote 10 le as lagna but with Jhora, Goravani & Kala - all 3

> > > softwares am getting 0Le54 (0 deg) - am sorry I seem to be losing

> > faith

> > > in softwares & hence cross check it with 2-3 at a time

> > >

> > > C) Can you kindly indicate the source of time of birth (newspaper,

> > birth

> > > certificate) though still it could be Cancer lagna birth also if

it

> is

> > > at 0 le at all.

> > >

> > > D) Does Gordon Brown have fiery speeches or sweetness in speech

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Margaret

> > >

> > >

> > > , "Marg" margie9@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sharat, Chandrashekhar and Rampriya,

> > > >

> > > > Thank you for all responses they were very interesting to read,

I

> > > haven't yet had time to study this in full, though in light of

what

> I

> > > said about Gordon Brown's chart earlier I am not surprised there

> > should

> > > be these afflictions, though clearly science makes many advances.

> > > >

> > > > I can't see from these planets positions how we would predict

his

> > > father being such a major figure in the government either?

> > > >

> > > > The lagna is 10 46 leo with Lahiri and calc by PL6, and I would

> have

> > > held out more hope had there been a benefic in kendra, though

> > obviously

> > > Mars in lagna as ninth lord must bring some benefits surely. The

Sun

> > is

> > > very afflicted by Saturn and Mer, very weak in 12fth and moving

from

> > > water to fire sign also which is not a good time so many stays in

> > > hospital are omened I think.

> > > >

> > > > Apparently with cystic fibrosis children need a lot of

> > physiotherapy,

> > > I don't know much about the disease, but clearly it is not one

which

> > is

> > > easily thrown off.

> > > >

> > > > Any other comments about this chart or of those with similar

> > > conditions most welcome

> > > > best wishes

> > > > margaret

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > Sharat

> > > >

> > > > Thursday, November 30, 2006 6:20 PM

> > > > Re: chart of child with cystic fibrosis

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji,

> > > > For James Brown, TOB 17/08/2006 0800 HRS( 1:0:0: East of GMT),

> > > Edinburgh, Scotland

> > > >

> > > > It is Leo rising, with Mars in Lagan, Lgnesh is in 12 H with Sa

> and

> > > reg Me.

> > > > Ju is in 3 H and is aspecting 9H of Bhagya.

> > > > Mo is in 8H conjunct with Ra, in Meen rashi ( Jal tatwa) which

may

> > > explain his having Cystic Fibrosis( drying up of secretions) since

> > > birth.

> > > > There is also a partial grah malika yog beginning from Venus(

thus

> > > affliction at birth) and ending with Ju.

> > > > The key thus lies with Ju which will be the guiding force in his

> > life.

> > > >

> > > > This is the chart I get, is it not the right one?

> > > > Please guide me if I am wrong.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > Sharat

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > >

> > > > Thursday, November 30, 2006 5:23 PM

> > > > Re: chart of child with cystic fibrosis

> > > >

> > > > Dear Margaret,

> > > >

> > > > With Jupiter occupying a Kendra and aspecting the 8th bhava, let

> us

> > > hope

> > > > the child will have a good length of life. The fact that he has

> the

> > > > problems at birth are in line with Moon occupying the 8th bhava,

> but

> > > > being lagnesha, should give a good physique when the child

> recovers.

> > > >

> > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > >

> > > > Marg wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear List,

> > > > >

> > > > > The news has just sadly been broken that Gordon Brown's second

> son

> > > > > James Fraser Brown, has cystic fibrosis.

> > > > >

> > > > > James Fraser Brown was born 17th July 2006, at Edinburgh Royal

> > > > > hospital, 08:00 am GMT (09:00am BST)

> > > > >

> > > > > Cystic fibrosis is the most commonly diagnosed condition of

one

> in

> > > > > five in white European babies, and currently life expectancy

is

> > > thirty

> > > > > to forty years only. The Chancellor is hoping that gene

research

> > > will

> > > > > uncover cures that will extend his son's life.

> > > > >

> > > > > The Brown's now live above number ten Downing Street, the

> official

> > > > > residence of the Prime Minister, due to the need for

additional

> > > > > security for the young family.

> > > > >

> > > > > Does anyone see in his natal chart any hope for the

prolongation

> > of

> > > > > the little baby's life, and the removal of the condition?

> > > > >

> > > > > best wishes

> > > > > margaret

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Om Datta Guru

 

Dear Margaret,

 

Sorry to hear that u do not have the birth time, I somehow thought u

would have it. No worries. But if u do get it pls do send it.

 

If at all u have charts of kids & spouses of previous PM or current PM

pls do send them, that is only when u get time, there is no hurry

 

best

 

SJ

 

 

 

 

 

 

, "Marg" <margie9 wrote:

>

> Dear Sunil

>

> Yes he did lose the first daughter within hours of her birth, Jennifer

was born 28 December 2001 and John was born on 2 October 2003, but I

have no birth time for either.

>

> I don't have the chart of Gordon Brown's wife, but I will keep looking

for this,

> best wishes Margaret

> -

> suniljohn_2002

>

> Tuesday, December 05, 2006 6:22 AM

> Chart of Wife of Gordon Brown/Other child of

Gordon Brown

>

>

>

> OM Datta Guru

>

> Dear Margaret,

>

> Thanks for your mail.

>

> 1) I presume James Brown has one elder sibling, would u have the chart

> of his.

>

> I think I read the very first child of Brown, there was miscarriage

> right?

>

> 2) Would u have chart of Wife of Gordon Brown.

>

> Kind regards,

>

> Sunil John

>

> Mumbai

>

> , "Marg" margie9@ wrote:

> >

>

> > thanks for these yogas, I ran PL6 yogas as well they too show poor

> mortality but sometimes astrologers have done work which can bring new

> things to light which was why I asked the list to comment, so thanks

for

> these insights

> > love M

> > -

> > suniljohn_2002

> >

> > Saturday, December 02, 2006 9:27 AM

> > Child of Gordon Brown with cystic

> fibrosis/Yogas

> >

> >

> >

> > OM Datta Guru

> >

> > Dear Margaret

> >

> > This is clear now, by entering 9 am 'Directly' in all softwares

Jhora,

> > Goravani, Kala, Shri Jyoti star one gets 10Le the correct Lagna.

> >

> > The condition is bad and one can see from various angles , most

> planets

> > are getting afflicted and contributing to ill health. Others might

> have

> > already contributed to the thread.

> >

> > BUT What is interesting is one might find in this chart

> >

> > a) Aristha Yoga

> >

> > b) Aristha Matibhramana Yoga

> >

> > c) Arishta Harshamoha Yoga

> >

> > d) Alpayu Yoga

> >

> > e) Yogaristha Yoga (Jataka Parijata I think)

> >

> > &

> >

> > 1) Arishta Bhanga Yoga (wonder if this paworks)

> >

> > 2) Purnayu yoga - 3

> >

> > Does this disease also have effect later in life as to blindness or

> > night blindness.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Sunil

> >

> > , "Marg" margie9@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sunil

> > >

> > > nutshell version

> > > DOB 17/7/2006

> > > TOB: 09:00 British Summer Time BST or DST some call it nowadays

> > > TZ: 00

> > > LONG 03W13

> > > LAT: 55N57

> > > longer version as to why are wherefores which might help you

correct

> > entering data to your prog for right lagna now follows:

> > >

> > > The timezone is something different to the longitude and latitude,

> > though of course the two latter influence the TZ.

> > >

> > > TZ is the amount of hours difference from GMT of the birth time,

and

> > refers to the hourly difference across the different time zones in

the

> > world, so for India I think it is five hours which would be placed

in

> > this field to show the TZ of India to UK which is where all

planetary

> > times for planets is calaculated for in ephemeris used in astro

> > programmes.. So east or west does not apply to this data input,

though

> > the hourly difference is affected by those directions, whihc is why

> you

> > alter yur watch when travelling out of India to callibrate with the

> time

> > zone of the country you are visiting.

> > > Since the time given is according to GMT then there is no need to

> play

> > with time zones in the TZ data entry field.

> > > Try this DOB :17/7/2006

> > > TOB: 09:00 which is British Summer Time where we add one hour to

> help

> > us imagine we get extra daytime (:-)), some progs tell you this

> > automatically and deduct the hour of added BST to get the GMT of

> 08:00,

> > but if not then just key in GMT 08:00

> > > TZ: 00

> > > LONG: 03:12 some give 13 mins of long

> > > LAT: 55:57 again the minutes of long may vary it all depends which

> > atlas the programmer took the data from, and all atlases very when

it

> > comes to minutes of arc or longitude

> > > -

> > > suniljohn_2002

> > >

> > > Friday, December 01, 2006 5:48 PM

> > > child of Gordon Brown with cystic

> > fibrosis/correct lagna deg 2

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > OM Datta Guru

> > >

> > > Dear Marg,

> > >

> > > Checked with Shri Jyoti star too & it is giving 00Le53 (othres

gave

> > > 00Le54)

> > >

> > > Their I used birth data as

> > >

> > > James Brown (son of Gordon Brown)

> > >

> > > Natal Chart

> > >

> > > July 17, 2006

> > > Time: 8:00:00

> > > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)

> > > Place: 3 W 12' 00", 55 N 57' 00"

> > > Edinburgh, United Kingdom

> > >

> > > Pls confirm

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Sunil

> > >

> > > , "jjnet2000_in" jjnet2000_in@

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > OM Datta Guru

> > > >

> > > > Dear Margaret,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for sharing data.

> > > >

> > > > I still do not understand what is cystic fibrosis, though from

ur

> > > other

> > > > mail I thought it was lungs

> > > >

> > > > A) I hope this doesn't discomfort u in re-explaining, but from

> where

> > > > does the disease 'Start' in the body

> > > >

> > > > B) U wrote 10 le as lagna but with Jhora, Goravani & Kala - all

3

> > > > softwares am getting 0Le54 (0 deg) - am sorry I seem to be

losing

> > > faith

> > > > in softwares & hence cross check it with 2-3 at a time

> > > >

> > > > C) Can you kindly indicate the source of time of birth

(newspaper,

> > > birth

> > > > certificate) though still it could be Cancer lagna birth also if

> it

> > is

> > > > at 0 le at all.

> > > >

> > > > D) Does Gordon Brown have fiery speeches or sweetness in speech

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Margaret

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , "Marg" margie9@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sharat, Chandrashekhar and Rampriya,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank you for all responses they were very interesting to

read,

> I

> > > > haven't yet had time to study this in full, though in light of

> what

> > I

> > > > said about Gordon Brown's chart earlier I am not surprised there

> > > should

> > > > be these afflictions, though clearly science makes many

advances.

> > > > >

> > > > > I can't see from these planets positions how we would predict

> his

> > > > father being such a major figure in the government either?

> > > > >

> > > > > The lagna is 10 46 leo with Lahiri and calc by PL6, and I

would

> > have

> > > > held out more hope had there been a benefic in kendra, though

> > > obviously

> > > > Mars in lagna as ninth lord must bring some benefits surely. The

> Sun

> > > is

> > > > very afflicted by Saturn and Mer, very weak in 12fth and moving

> from

> > > > water to fire sign also which is not a good time so many stays

in

> > > > hospital are omened I think.

> > > > >

> > > > > Apparently with cystic fibrosis children need a lot of

> > > physiotherapy,

> > > > I don't know much about the disease, but clearly it is not one

> which

> > > is

> > > > easily thrown off.

> > > > >

> > > > > Any other comments about this chart or of those with similar

> > > > conditions most welcome

> > > > > best wishes

> > > > > margaret

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > Sharat

> > > > >

> > > > > Thursday, November 30, 2006 6:20 PM

> > > > > Re: chart of child with cystic

fibrosis

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji,

> > > > > For James Brown, TOB 17/08/2006 0800 HRS( 1:0:0: East of GMT),

> > > > Edinburgh, Scotland

> > > > >

> > > > > It is Leo rising, with Mars in Lagan, Lgnesh is in 12 H with

Sa

> > and

> > > > reg Me.

> > > > > Ju is in 3 H and is aspecting 9H of Bhagya.

> > > > > Mo is in 8H conjunct with Ra, in Meen rashi ( Jal tatwa) which

> may

> > > > explain his having Cystic Fibrosis( drying up of secretions)

since

> > > > birth.

> > > > > There is also a partial grah malika yog beginning from Venus(

> thus

> > > > affliction at birth) and ending with Ju.

> > > > > The key thus lies with Ju which will be the guiding force in

his

> > > life.

> > > > >

> > > > > This is the chart I get, is it not the right one?

> > > > > Please guide me if I am wrong.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > >

> > > > > Sharat

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > >

> > > > > Thursday, November 30, 2006 5:23 PM

> > > > > Re: chart of child with cystic

fibrosis

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Margaret,

> > > > >

> > > > > With Jupiter occupying a Kendra and aspecting the 8th bhava,

let

> > us

> > > > hope

> > > > > the child will have a good length of life. The fact that he

has

> > the

> > > > > problems at birth are in line with Moon occupying the 8th

bhava,

> > but

> > > > > being lagnesha, should give a good physique when the child

> > recovers.

> > > > >

> > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > >

> > > > > Marg wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear List,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The news has just sadly been broken that Gordon Brown's

second

> > son

> > > > > > James Fraser Brown, has cystic fibrosis.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > James Fraser Brown was born 17th July 2006, at Edinburgh

Royal

> > > > > > hospital, 08:00 am GMT (09:00am BST)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cystic fibrosis is the most commonly diagnosed condition of

> one

> > in

> > > > > > five in white European babies, and currently life expectancy

> is

> > > > thirty

> > > > > > to forty years only. The Chancellor is hoping that gene

> research

> > > > will

> > > > > > uncover cures that will extend his son's life.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The Brown's now live above number ten Downing Street, the

> > official

> > > > > > residence of the Prime Minister, due to the need for

> additional

> > > > > > security for the young family.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Does anyone see in his natal chart any hope for the

> prolongation

> > > of

> > > > > > the little baby's life, and the removal of the condition?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > best wishes

> > > > > > margaret

> > > > > >

> > > > > >