The science of tendencies as Raman stated addendum

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To his credit, Kumar ji has at least a few times recently very humbly

(to his credit) pointed out that jyotishis may succeed remarkably but

they also fail at times. Only someone of his accomplishments can

state that so easily and without pulling back.

 

Those who need to feel the same, the way is simple. Learn and

practice astrology before you begin to formulate hypotheses and

theories about how astrology works or karma works or the rest of the

modii operandii underlying God's Creation and ITS reason for being ;-)

 

RR

 

, "Rohiniranjan"

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Prakash ji,

>

> If I may add a few thoughts. The issue as I see it is not whether

> there is destiny operating or not and whether astrology can

> accurately read destiny. Both are true.

>

> But then we must dig a bit deeper and I hope my words are not taken

> as sceptical or sarcastic or challenging anyone's belief or

personal

> experience.

>

> The deeper part comes when (any) astrologer tries to take just one

> chart and try to see all the events in that chart. Sooner or later

> the realization comes that not all events fit the astrological

> patterns. At this point the technical factors begin to play a role

> and some begin to tweak ayanamsha and others use different factors

or

> perspectives or even types of divination (astrology is just one).

On

> the one hand, this increases the 'hits' but also bring in

confounding

> factors.

>

> Then when that one expands his repertoire and begins to look at

many

> events or traits in many charts and tries to fit those, again it

> becomes apparent that though there are many hits there are some or

> even many misses. Rather than blaming the astrologer or astrology,

> some individuals begin to become aware of an additional factor.

> Perhaps this is why Astrologer of the stature of Shri B.V. Raman

had

> publicly stated that astrology is a science of tendencies. Tendency

> for what? Perhaps for being responsive to destiny while not

> completely absolving some degree of freedom of choice. It is true

> that not all will be able to exercise the free-will as much as

others

> and so we can have different levels of or proportions of destiny

and

> free will operating in individual lives.

>

> No one has to believe in that or accept that and if one feels that

> destiny is supreme (even though today's destiny has to be a free-

will

> chosen deed from yesterday!) then as we can see there arises a

> problem.

>

> If we are responsible for our destiny, then at the root of it has

to

> be a deed which we performed by personal choice. If there was

> personal choice back then when the deed was done which now we are

> facing as our current destiny, then certainly there must be deeds

we

> are capable of doing today which will create destiny for tomorrow

> (next lifetimes).

>

> ON THE OTHER HAND, if we are not responsible for our destiny and

> there is no existence of freedom of choice or free-will, then the

> creation kind of loses its point and becomes chaotic. That in my

view

> would be taking a giant step backwards, all the way back to the

caves!

>

> RR

>

>

> , Prakash Chandra

> <prakashchandra2357@> wrote:

> >

> > To all who are discussing this example by " Jagdish " ,

> >

> >

> > I must say one thing that by giving the example of " the

> Judge " , Jagdish has himself Proved that the Astrology is

> absolutely right and Correct to its core. The " wonder Boy "

> Predicted the Tenure of the Judge to be 7 years and so it was.

> So , what is wrong with Astrology and Predictions ? If such a

> correct Prediction was given , then why DOUBT Astrology.

Please

> make me Understand that. Also , from my experience with

Astrology

> ( and I have to say that I have the Least Experience of this

> Science ) I can say that under such a Circumstances , after the

> Prediction proves right , the Family Members and the Relatives of

the

> Person ( " the Judge " ) themselves come to the Astrologer ( "

Wonder

> Boy " ) and Congratulate him on the Correctness of his

> Prediction.

> > As for the Death is Concerned , it is

> rightly said that Nobody knows the Exact time of it. Regarding

> the Statement " there is nothing in Human Hands " , it is very

> true. Over here , let me Differentiate between Astrology and

> Destiny / Fate ( " there is nothing in Human Hands " ).

> ASTROLOGY PREDICTS THE DESTINY AND DESTINY IS SOMETHING WHICH IS

> BOUND TO HAPPEN. DESTINY IS FUTURE AND ASTROLOGY PREDICTS THIS

> FUTURE ( DESTINY ).

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > What gave you the idea that I want to 'spread'

> astrology :-)

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , "upaoakcrest"

> > <upaoakcrest@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Just one example,

> > >

> > > Book

> > >

> > > "Learn Successful Predictive Techniques of Hindu Astrology" by

K.

> > N. Rao

> > >

> > > Topic: Mr. Nagendra Singh.

> > >

> > > Page Number 60

> > >

> > > Point 3 in that page.

> > >

> > > A wonder boy predicted that Mr. Nagendra Singh will get elected

> for

> > > "Judge" post. He will stay in that position for 7 years.

> > >

> > > The position is for 9 years. So legally he should stay for 9

> years.

> > It

> > > appears that the wonder boy made a wrong prediction.

> > >

> > > BUT

> > >

> > >

> > > Mr. Nagendra Singh died after 7 years.

> > >

> > > I have hundreds of examples like this.

> > >

> > > It again proved that there is nothing in humans hand.

> > >

> > > Whatever is in the horoscope will happen. And then people are

> STUPID

> > > but this stupidity is good at least they are comfortable. If

they

> > will

> > > know the accuracy of astrology then many will go insane.

> > >

> > > Why do you want to spread astrology, RR Ji ?

> > >

> > >

> > > Best

> > >

> > > Jagdish

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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