Vistiji's Lecture on Gem Stones - questions

December 8, 2006

!Om Gurveh Namah!

Dear Visti ji, Namaskar!

I had an opportunity to listen to your lectures on Gem stones, First of all I will like to thank you for doing the informative lecture. It cleared a lot of doubts.

I have a couple of Qns:

1. Prescription of Blue sapphire :

You mention for :

- Aries/Scorpio Ascendant if Mars is in 8H/6H OR

- Taurus/Libra Ascendant if Ve in (6H/8H) recommend Blue sapphire.

a. However Aries is sign of debilitation of Saturn, moreover it is also a Badhakesh. Is Blue sapphire still recommended?

b. Also Taurus/Libra Asc what if Saturn is placed in bad house like 6H or 8H.

e.g. - Taurus asc – Venus and Saturn (exalted in 6H) in Libra, Is Blue sapphire still recommended?

2. Strengthening 9th Lord:

Is it advisable to strengthen 9th Lord if it alongside owns one of the malefic houses - 3,6,8,11,12?

e.g. - Aries Asc Ju lords (9,12) houses

Cancer Asc Ju lords (6,9) houses

Let me know when you get a moment.

Warm regards,

Pranav

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December 9, 2006

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Dear Pranav, Namaskar

I'm happy that you are learning from the lectures. Btw. the mantra is

normally pronounced: Om Gurave Namah|

I must ask, who is sushma gupta which your email id had written in it?

*o Pratama prasna*

The wearing of a blue sapphire is to make Capricorn more prominent, and

thus cause the exaltation of Mars. Similarly for Venus in own sign in

sixth/eighth we advise Yellow Sapphire to exalted Venus, and make Pisces

more prominent.

*o Dvitiiya prasna*

When a kendra lord is a malefic its effects can become very auspicious

in a dusthana house and form a vipareet raja yoga. This is not so for

benefics. For example: Saturn in twelfth for Vrishabha lagna is an

excellent Vipareet Raja Yoga, but Venus in twelfth for Capricorn lagna

definitely isn't.... unless the person travels abroad.

This follows the general principle that malefics are auspicious in

dusthanas, whilst benefics are auspicious in trikonas. That way Mars in

twelfth for Leo lagna can prove to be a powerful raja yoga, but jealousy

from others may remain due to its aspect on the sixth house from lagna.

*o Tritiiya prasna

*There could be various reasons to advise a gemstone for the ninth

house. If rahu is joined the ninth house or lord, or aspecting, then no

doubt a yellow sapphire should be worn... no matter the position of

Jupiter. In fact, if such a gemstone is not advised the luck of the

person simply won't start. Instead the person will be running in circles.

Now, if in a case the lord of the ninth house lords an inauspicious

house, and is ALSO placed in it, we have a problem. Example: for Aries

lagna, Jupiter in twelfth can cause separation from father, as it is

also ninth lord. In such cases only advise the gemstone if absolutely

necessary to avoid a greater evil (rahu, saturn, etc).

Yours sincerely,

--

Visti Larsen

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

<http://srigaruda.com>

sushmagupta51 wrote:

> !Om Gurveh Namah!

>

> Dear Visti ji, Namaskar!

>

> I had an opportunity to listen to your lectures on Gem stones, First

> of all I will like to thank you for doing the informative lecture. It

> cleared a lot of doubts.

>

> I have a couple of Qns:

> 1. *Prescription of Blue sapphire* :

>

> You mention for :

> - Aries/Scorpio Ascendant if Mars is in 8H/6H OR

> - Taurus/Libra Ascendant if Ve in (6H/8H) recommend Blue sapphire.

>

> a. However Aries is sign of debilitation of Saturn, moreover it

> is also a Badhakesh. Is Blue sapphire still recommended?

>

> b. Also Taurus/Libra Asc what if Saturn is placed in bad house

> like 6H or 8H.

> e.g. - Taurus asc -- Venus and Saturn (exalted in 6H) in Libra, Is

> Blue sapphire still recommended?

>

> 2. *Strengthening 9th Lord*:

>

> Is it advisable to strengthen 9th Lord if it alongside owns one of the

> malefic houses - 3,6,8,11,12?

> e.g. - Aries Asc Ju lords (9,12) houses

> Cancer Asc Ju lords (6,9) houses

>

> Let me know when you get a moment.

>

> Warm regards,

> Pranav

>

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December 9, 2006

Namaste Sri Visti

Can you cite some experiences where you have tried to raise the strength of

Rasi through gemstones and not of the malefic grahas that the gemstone

represent? Or point out a relevant article in Jyotish digest pointing out

the same.

If you remember, in a last thread when Yellow Sapphire was suggested for

Rahu in Ninth, I had specified that Yellow Sapphire just does not suit me

and causes many problems. I also like Sri Sanjay Rathji to comment upon the

same and share his thoughts too.

Thanks and Regards

Bharat (Anuj)

On 12/9/06, Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote:

>

> à¤¹à¤°à¥‡ à¤°à¤¾à¤® à¤•à¥ƒà¤·à¥à¤£à¥¥

>

> Dear Pranav, Namaskar

> I'm happy that you are learning from the lectures. Btw. the mantra is

> normally pronounced: Om Gurave Namah|

>

> I must ask, who is sushma gupta which your email id had written in it?

>

> *o Pratama prasna*

> The wearing of a blue sapphire is to make Capricorn more prominent, and

> thus cause the exaltation of Mars. Similarly for Venus in own sign in

> sixth/eighth we advise Yellow Sapphire to exalted Venus, and make Pisces

> more prominent.

>

> *o Dvitiiya prasna*

> When a kendra lord is a malefic its effects can become very auspicious in

> a dusthana house and form a vipareet raja yoga. This is not so for benefics.

> For example: Saturn in twelfth for Vrishabha lagna is an excellent Vipareet

> Raja Yoga, but Venus in twelfth for Capricorn lagna definitely isn't....

> unless the person travels abroad.

>

> This follows the general principle that malefics are auspicious in

> dusthanas, whilst benefics are auspicious in trikonas. That way Mars in

> twelfth for Leo lagna can prove to be a powerful raja yoga, but jealousy

> from others may remain due to its aspect on the sixth house from lagna.

>

> *o Tritiiya prasna

> *There could be various reasons to advise a gemstone for the ninth house.

> If rahu is joined the ninth house or lord, or aspecting, then no doubt a

> yellow sapphire should be worn... no matter the position of Jupiter. In

> fact, if such a gemstone is not advised the luck of the person simply won't

> start. Instead the person will be running in circles.

>

> Now, if in a case the lord of the ninth house lords an inauspicious house,

> and is ALSO placed in it, we have a problem. Example: for Aries lagna,

> Jupiter in twelfth can cause separation from father, as it is also ninth

> lord. In such cases only advise the gemstone if absolutely necessary to

> avoid a greater evil (rahu, saturn, etc).

>

> Yours sincerely,

> --

> Visti Larsen

> email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

> For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

>

> sushmagupta51 wrote:

>

> !Om Gurveh Namah!

>

> Dear Visti ji, Namaskar!

>

> I had an opportunity to listen to your lectures on Gem stones, First of

> all I will like to thank you for doing the informative lecture. It cleared a

> lot of doubts.

>

> I have a couple of Qns:

> 1. *Prescription of Blue sapphire* :

>

> You mention for :

> - Aries/Scorpio Ascendant if Mars is in 8H/6H OR

> - Taurus/Libra Ascendant if Ve in (6H/8H) recommend Blue sapphire.

>

> a. However Aries is sign of debilitation of Saturn, moreover it is

> also a Badhakesh. Is Blue sapphire still recommended?

>

> b. Also Taurus/Libra Asc what if Saturn is placed in bad house like

> 6H or 8H.

> e.g. - Taurus asc â€“ Venus and Saturn (exalted in 6H) in Libra, Is Blue

> sapphire still recommended?

>

> 2. *Strengthening 9th Lord*:

>

> Is it advisable to strengthen 9th Lord if it alongside owns one of the

> malefic houses - 3,6,8,11,12?

> e.g. - Aries Asc Ju lords (9,12) houses

> Cancer Asc Ju lords (6,9) houses

>

> Let me know when you get a moment.

>

> Warm regards,

> Pranav

>

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December 9, 2006

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Dear Bharat, Namaskar

One of the best examples is myself. I have Scorpio Lagna and Rahu is

placed in the ninth house. Jupiter is joined Mercury in the eighth.

Initially i wore substitute stones for Jupiter. I.e. Yellow Citrine and

then a Heliodore... never a topaz though. After wearing my first

gemstone i spent the next 2-3 years traveling around the world and

learning Jyotish.

Prior to this i had made some 'blunders' in my education and was left

somewhat stuck in this matter. I subsequently began formal studies again.

Recently i began wearing a white sapphire (white for Pisces) and whilst

I'm happy with the effects, I'm also uncomfortable with some flaws in

the actual gem. I blame this on my recent inability to pursue some

traveling, but lets see.

Yours sincerely,

--

Visti Larsen

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

<http://srigaruda.com>

Bharat Hindu Astrology wrote:

>

> Namaste Sri Visti

>

> Can you cite some experiences where you have tried to raise the

> strength of Rasi through gemstones and not of the malefic grahas that

> the gemstone represent? Or point out a relevant article in Jyotish

> digest pointing out the same.

>

> If you remember, in a last thread when Yellow Sapphire was suggested

> for Rahu in Ninth, I had specified that Yellow Sapphire just does not

> suit me and causes many problems. I also like Sri Sanjay Rathji to

> comment upon the same and share his thoughts too.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat (Anuj)

>

> On 12/9/06, *Visti Larsen* <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

> <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>> wrote:

>

> à¤¹à¤°à¥‡ à¤°à¤¾à¤® à¤•à¥ƒà¤·à¥à¤£à¥¥

>

> Dear Pranav, Namaskar

> I'm happy that you are learning from the lectures. Btw. the mantra

> is normally pronounced: Om Gurave Namah|

>

> I must ask, who is sushma gupta which your email id had written in it?

>

> *o Pratama prasna*

> The wearing of a blue sapphire is to make Capricorn more

> prominent, and thus cause the exaltation of Mars. Similarly for

> Venus in own sign in sixth/eighth we advise Yellow Sapphire to

> exalted Venus, and make Pisces more prominent.

>

> *o Dvitiiya prasna*

> When a kendra lord is a malefic its effects can become very

> auspicious in a dusthana house and form a vipareet raja yoga. This

> is not so for benefics. For example: Saturn in twelfth for

> Vrishabha lagna is an excellent Vipareet Raja Yoga, but Venus in

> twelfth for Capricorn lagna definitely isn't.... unless the person

> travels abroad.

>

> This follows the general principle that malefics are auspicious in

> dusthanas, whilst benefics are auspicious in trikonas. That way

> Mars in twelfth for Leo lagna can prove to be a powerful raja

> yoga, but jealousy from others may remain due to its aspect on the

> sixth house from lagna.

>

> *o Tritiiya prasna

> *There could be various reasons to advise a gemstone for the ninth

> house. If rahu is joined the ninth house or lord, or aspecting,

> then no doubt a yellow sapphire should be worn... no matter the

> position of Jupiter. In fact, if such a gemstone is not advised

> the luck of the person simply won't start. Instead the person will

> be running in circles.

>

> Now, if in a case the lord of the ninth house lords an

> inauspicious house, and is ALSO placed in it, we have a problem.

> Example: for Aries lagna, Jupiter in twelfth can cause separation

> from father, as it is also ninth lord. In such cases only advise

> the gemstone if absolutely necessary to avoid a greater evil

> (rahu, saturn, etc).

>

> Yours sincerely,

>

> --

> Visti Larsen

> email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

> For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com

> <http://srigaruda.com>

>

> sushmagupta51 wrote:

>> !Om Gurveh Namah!

>>

>> Dear Visti ji, Namaskar!

>>

>> I had an opportunity to listen to your lectures on Gem stones,

>> First of all I will like to thank you for doing the informative

>> lecture. It cleared a lot of doubts.

>>

>> I have a couple of Qns:

>> 1. *Prescription of Blue sapphire* :

>>

>> You mention for :

>> - Aries/Scorpio Ascendant if Mars is in 8H/6H OR

>> - Taurus/Libra Ascendant if Ve in (6H/8H) recommend Blue sapphire.

>>

>> a. However Aries is sign of debilitation of Saturn,

>> moreover it is also a Badhakesh. Is Blue sapphire still

>> recommended?

>>

>> b. Also Taurus/Libra Asc what if Saturn is placed in bad

>> house like 6H or 8H.

>> e.g. - Taurus asc â€“ Venus and Saturn (exalted in 6H) in Libra, Is

>> Blue sapphire still recommended?

>>

>> 2. *Strengthening 9th Lord*:

>>

>> Is it advisable to strengthen 9th Lord if it alongside owns one

>> of the malefic houses - 3,6,8,11,12?

>> e.g. - Aries Asc Ju lords (9,12) houses

>> Cancer Asc Ju lords (6,9) houses

>>

>> Let me know when you get a moment.

>>

>> Warm regards,

>> Pranav

>>

>> Cheap Talk? Check out

>> <http://us.rd./mail_us/taglines/postman8/*http://us.rd./evt=39663/*http://voice.>

>> Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.

>

December 9, 2006

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Dear Bharat, Namaskar

Correction: Jupiter is joined eighth lord Mercury in the twelfth house.

Yours sincerely,

--

Visti Larsen

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

<http://srigaruda.com>

Visti Larsen wrote:

>

> à¤¹à¤°à¥‡ à¤°à¤¾à¤® à¤•à¥ƒà¤·à¥à¤£à¥¥

>

> Dear Bharat, Namaskar

> One of the best examples is myself. I have Scorpio Lagna and Rahu is

> placed in the ninth house. Jupiter is joined Mercury in the eighth.

> Initially i wore substitute stones for Jupiter. I.e. Yellow Citrine

> and then a Heliodore... never a topaz though. After wearing my first

> gemstone i spent the next 2-3 years traveling around the world and

> learning Jyotish.

> Prior to this i had made some 'blunders' in my education and was left

> somewhat stuck in this matter. I subsequently began formal studies again.

> Recently i began wearing a white sapphire (white for Pisces) and

> whilst I'm happy with the effects, I'm also uncomfortable with some

> flaws in the actual gem. I blame this on my recent inability to pursue

> some traveling, but lets see.

> Yours sincerely,

>

> --

> Visti Larsen

> email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

> For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com

> <http://srigaruda.com>

>

> Bharat Hindu Astrology wrote:

>>

>> Namaste Sri Visti

>>

>> Can you cite some experiences where you have tried to raise the

>> strength of Rasi through gemstones and not of the malefic grahas that

>> the gemstone represent? Or point out a relevant article in Jyotish

>> digest pointing out the same.

>>

>> If you remember, in a last thread when Yellow Sapphire was suggested

>> for Rahu in Ninth, I had specified that Yellow Sapphire just does not

>> suit me and causes many problems. I also like Sri Sanjay Rathji to

>> comment upon the same and share his thoughts too.

>>

>> Thanks and Regards

>> Bharat (Anuj)

>>

>> On 12/9/06, *Visti Larsen* <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

>> <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>> wrote:

>>

>> à¤¹à¤°à¥‡ à¤°à¤¾à¤® à¤•à¥ƒà¤·à¥à¤£à¥¥

>>

>> Dear Pranav, Namaskar

>> I'm happy that you are learning from the lectures. Btw. the

>> mantra is normally pronounced: Om Gurave Namah|

>>

>> I must ask, who is sushma gupta which your email id had written

>> in it?

>>

>> *o Pratama prasna*

>> The wearing of a blue sapphire is to make Capricorn more

>> prominent, and thus cause the exaltation of Mars. Similarly for

>> Venus in own sign in sixth/eighth we advise Yellow Sapphire to

>> exalted Venus, and make Pisces more prominent.

>>

>> *o Dvitiiya prasna*

>> When a kendra lord is a malefic its effects can become very

>> auspicious in a dusthana house and form a vipareet raja yoga.

>> This is not so for benefics. For example: Saturn in twelfth for

>> Vrishabha lagna is an excellent Vipareet Raja Yoga, but Venus in

>> twelfth for Capricorn lagna definitely isn't.... unless the

>> person travels abroad.

>>

>> This follows the general principle that malefics are auspicious

>> in dusthanas, whilst benefics are auspicious in trikonas. That

>> way Mars in twelfth for Leo lagna can prove to be a powerful raja

>> yoga, but jealousy from others may remain due to its aspect on

>> the sixth house from lagna.

>>

>> *o Tritiiya prasna

>> *There could be various reasons to advise a gemstone for the

>> ninth house. If rahu is joined the ninth house or lord, or

>> aspecting, then no doubt a yellow sapphire should be worn... no

>> matter the position of Jupiter. In fact, if such a gemstone is

>> not advised the luck of the person simply won't start. Instead

>> the person will be running in circles.

>>

>> Now, if in a case the lord of the ninth house lords an

>> inauspicious house, and is ALSO placed in it, we have a problem.

>> Example: for Aries lagna, Jupiter in twelfth can cause separation

>> from father, as it is also ninth lord. In such cases only advise

>> the gemstone if absolutely necessary to avoid a greater evil

>> (rahu, saturn, etc).

>>

>> Yours sincerely,

>>

>> --

>> Visti Larsen

>> email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

>> For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com

>> <http://srigaruda.com>

>>

>> sushmagupta51 wrote:

>>> !Om Gurveh Namah!

>>>

>>> Dear Visti ji, Namaskar!

>>>

>>> I had an opportunity to listen to your lectures on Gem stones,

>>> First of all I will like to thank you for doing the informative

>>> lecture. It cleared a lot of doubts.

>>>

>>> I have a couple of Qns:

>>> 1. *Prescription of Blue sapphire* :

>>>

>>> You mention for :

>>> - Aries/Scorpio Ascendant if Mars is in 8H/6H OR

>>> - Taurus/Libra Ascendant if Ve in (6H/8H) recommend Blue sapphire.

>>>

>>> a. However Aries is sign of debilitation of Saturn,

>>> moreover it is also a Badhakesh. Is Blue sapphire still

>>> recommended?

>>>

>>> b. Also Taurus/Libra Asc what if Saturn is placed in bad

>>> house like 6H or 8H.

>>> e.g. - Taurus asc â€“ Venus and Saturn (exalted in 6H) in Libra,

>>> Is Blue sapphire still recommended?

>>>

>>> 2. *Strengthening 9th Lord*:

>>>

>>> Is it advisable to strengthen 9th Lord if it alongside owns one

>>> of the malefic houses - 3,6,8,11,12?

>>> e.g. - Aries Asc Ju lords (9,12) houses

>>> Cancer Asc Ju lords (6,9) houses

>>>

>>> Let me know when you get a moment.

>>>

>>> Warm regards,

>>> Pranav

>>>

>>> Cheap Talk? Check out

>>> <http://us.rd./mail_us/taglines/postman8/*http://us.rd./evt=39663/*http://voice.>

>>> Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.

>>

>

December 9, 2006

!On Gurave Namah!

Dear Visti ji, Namaskar!

Thank you for correcting the pronunciation of the mantra.

Sushma Gupta is my mother. Whenever I start/do anything important/significant in my life, I try to do it in the name of Mother Godess or her name, its my way of seeking their blessings and continued guidance. Here it was learning Jyotish!

I have a couple of follow up questions and have copied your answer from previous email :

o Pratama prasna

The wearing of a blue sapphire is to make Capricorn more prominent, and thus cause the exaltation of Mars. Similarly for Venus in own sign in sixth/eighth we advise Yellow Sapphire to exalted Venus, and make Pisces more prominent.

[Pranav]

Can this dictum have a reverse effect (debilitation)?

e.g. - Jupiter debilitates in Capricorn and Mercury debilitates in Pisces.

And can this dictum be extended for other planets/signs?

e.g. - Strengthen Aries for a weakly placed Sun(or even debilitated Sun).

OR for Aries Asc - Strengthern Capricorn for Mars in 12H/7H;

o Tritiiya prasna

There could be various reasons to advise a gemstone for the ninth house. If rahu is joined the ninth house or lord, or aspecting, then no doubt a yellow sapphire should be worn... no matter the position of Jupiter. In fact, if such a gemstone is not advised the luck of the person simply won't start. Instead the person will be running in circles.

Now, if in a case the lord of the ninth house lords an inauspicious house, and is ALSO placed in it, we have a problem. Example: for Aries lagna, Jupiter in twelfth can cause separation from father, as it is also ninth lord. In such cases only advise the gemstone if absolutely necessary to avoid a greater evil (rahu, saturn, etc).

[Pranav]

Can the Gem stone be prescribed, if 9th lord is not placed in the inauspicious house- but is weak/strong, and what will be the effects?

e.g. - What are expected effects - if yellow sapphire is prescribed to a native of Aries Asc Jupiter is in Cancer(4H) or Capricorn (10H)

Thank you for taking time to answer my queries and your continued guidance.

Warm regards,

Pranav

Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote:

Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

Sat, 09 Dec 2006 12:09:53 +0100

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Vistiji's Lecture on Gem Stones - questions

हरे राम कृष्ण॥

Dear Pranav, Namaskar

I'm happy that you are learning from the lectures. Btw. the mantra is normally pronounced: Om Gurave Namah|

I must ask, who is sushma gupta which your email id had written in it?

o Pratama prasna

The wearing of a blue sapphire is to make Capricorn more prominent, and thus cause the exaltation of Mars. Similarly for Venus in own sign in sixth/eighth we advise Yellow Sapphire to exalted Venus, and make Pisces more prominent.

o Dvitiiya prasna

When a kendra lord is a malefic its effects can become very auspicious in a dusthana house and form a vipareet raja yoga. This is not so for benefics. For example: Saturn in twelfth for Vrishabha lagna is an excellent Vipareet Raja Yoga, but Venus in twelfth for Capricorn lagna definitely isn't.... unless the person travels abroad.

This follows the general principle that malefics are auspicious in dusthanas, whilst benefics are auspicious in trikonas. That way Mars in twelfth for Leo lagna can prove to be a powerful raja yoga, but jealousy from others may remain due to its aspect on the sixth house from lagna.

o Tritiiya prasna

There could be various reasons to advise a gemstone for the ninth house. If rahu is joined the ninth house or lord, or aspecting, then no doubt a yellow sapphire should be worn... no matter the position of Jupiter. In fact, if such a gemstone is not advised the luck of the person simply won't start. Instead the person will be running in circles.

Now, if in a case the lord of the ninth house lords an inauspicious house, and is ALSO placed in it, we have a problem. Example: for Aries lagna, Jupiter in twelfth can cause separation from father, as it is also ninth lord. In such cases only advise the gemstone if absolutely necessary to avoid a greater evil (rahu, saturn, etc).

Yours sincerely,

--

Visti Larsen

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

sushmagupta51 wrote: !Om Gurveh Namah!

Dear Visti ji, Namaskar!

I had an opportunity to listen to your lectures on Gem stones, First of all I will like to thank you for doing the informative lecture. It cleared a lot of doubts.

I have a couple of Qns:

1. Prescription of Blue sapphire :

You mention for :

- Aries/Scorpio Ascendant if Mars is in 8H/6H OR

- Taurus/Libra Ascendant if Ve in (6H/8H) recommend Blue sapphire.

a. However Aries is sign of debilitation of Saturn, moreover it is also a Badhakesh. Is Blue sapphire still recommended?

b. Also Taurus/Libra Asc what if Saturn is placed in bad house like 6H or 8H.

e.g. - Taurus asc – Venus and Saturn (exalted in 6H) in Libra, Is Blue sapphire still recommended?

2. Strengthening 9th Lord:

Is it advisable to strengthen 9th Lord if it alongside owns one of the malefic houses - 3,6,8,11,12?

e.g. - Aries Asc Ju lords (9,12) houses

Cancer Asc Ju lords (6,9) houses

Let me know when you get a moment.

Warm regards,

Pranav

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December 9, 2006

!Om Gurave Namah!

Dear Visti ji, Namaskar!

Thank you for correcting the pronunciation of the mantra.

Sushma Gupta is my mother. Whenever I start/do anything important/significant in my life, I try to do it in the name of Mother Godess or her name, its my way of seeking their blessings and continued guidance. Here it was learning Jyotish!

I have a couple of follow up questions and have copied your answer from previous email :

o Pratama prasna

The wearing of a blue sapphire is to make Capricorn more prominent, and thus cause the exaltation of Mars. Similarly for Venus in own sign in sixth/eighth we advise Yellow Sapphire to exalted Venus, and make Pisces more prominent.

[Pranav]

Can this dictum have a reverse effect (debilitation)?

e.g. - Jupiter debilitates in Capricorn and Mercury debilitates in Pisces.

And can this dictum be extended for other planets/signs?

e.g. - Strengthen Aries for a weakly placed Sun(or even debilitated Sun).

OR for Aries Asc - Strengthern Capricorn for Mars in 12H/7H;

o Tritiiya prasna

There could be various reasons to advise a gemstone for the ninth house. If rahu is joined the ninth house or lord, or aspecting, then no doubt a yellow sapphire should be worn... no matter the position of Jupiter. In fact, if such a gemstone is not advised the luck of the person simply won't start. Instead the person will be running in circles.

Now, if in a case the lord of the ninth house lords an inauspicious house, and is ALSO placed in it, we have a problem. Example: for Aries lagna, Jupiter in twelfth can cause separation from father, as it is also ninth lord. In such cases only advise the gemstone if absolutely necessary to avoid a greater evil (rahu, saturn, etc).

[Pranav]

Can the Gem stone be prescribed, if 9th lord is not placed in the inauspicious house- but is weak/strong, and what will be the effects?

e.g. - What are expected effects - if yellow sapphire is prescribed to a native of Aries Asc Jupiter is in Cancer(4H) or Capricorn (10H)

Thank you for taking time to answer my queries and your continued guidance.

Warm regards,

Pranav

Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote:

Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

Sat, 09 Dec 2006 12:09:53 +0100

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Vistiji's Lecture on Gem Stones - questions

हरे राम कृष्ण॥

Dear Pranav, Namaskar

I'm happy that you are learning from the lectures. Btw. the mantra is normally pronounced: Om Gurave Namah|

I must ask, who is sushma gupta which your email id had written in it?

o Pratama prasna

The wearing of a blue sapphire is to make Capricorn more prominent, and thus cause the exaltation of Mars. Similarly for Venus in own sign in sixth/eighth we advise Yellow Sapphire to exalted Venus, and make Pisces more prominent.

o Dvitiiya prasna

When a kendra lord is a malefic its effects can become very auspicious in a dusthana house and form a vipareet raja yoga. This is not so for benefics. For example: Saturn in twelfth for Vrishabha lagna is an excellent Vipareet Raja Yoga, but Venus in twelfth for Capricorn lagna definitely isn't.... unless the person travels abroad.

This follows the general principle that malefics are auspicious in dusthanas, whilst benefics are auspicious in trikonas. That way Mars in twelfth for Leo lagna can prove to be a powerful raja yoga, but jealousy from others may remain due to its aspect on the sixth house from lagna.

o Tritiiya prasna

There could be various reasons to advise a gemstone for the ninth house. If rahu is joined the ninth house or lord, or aspecting, then no doubt a yellow sapphire should be worn... no matter the position of Jupiter. In fact, if such a gemstone is not advised the luck of the person simply won't start. Instead the person will be running in circles.

Now, if in a case the lord of the ninth house lords an inauspicious house, and is ALSO placed in it, we have a problem. Example: for Aries lagna, Jupiter in twelfth can cause separation from father, as it is also ninth lord. In such cases only advise the gemstone if absolutely necessary to avoid a greater evil (rahu, saturn, etc).

Yours sincerely,

--

Visti Larsen

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

sushmagupta51 wrote: !Om Gurveh Namah!

Dear Visti ji, Namaskar!

I had an opportunity to listen to your lectures on Gem stones, First of all I will like to thank you for doing the informative lecture. It cleared a lot of doubts.

I have a couple of Qns:

1. Prescription of Blue sapphire :

You mention for :

- Aries/Scorpio Ascendant if Mars is in 8H/6H OR

- Taurus/Libra Ascendant if Ve in (6H/8H) recommend Blue sapphire.

a. However Aries is sign of debilitation of Saturn, moreover it is also a Badhakesh. Is Blue sapphire still recommended?

b. Also Taurus/Libra Asc what if Saturn is placed in bad house like 6H or 8H.

e.g. - Taurus asc – Venus and Saturn (exalted in 6H) in Libra, Is Blue sapphire still recommended?

2. Strengthening 9th Lord:

Is it advisable to strengthen 9th Lord if it alongside owns one of the malefic houses - 3,6,8,11,12?

e.g. - Aries Asc Ju lords (9,12) houses

Cancer Asc Ju lords (6,9) houses

Let me know when you get a moment.

Warm regards,

Pranav

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December 12, 2006

Namaste Visti,

In your case, Jupiter is a friend of lagna lord and a lord of trikona, so

Yellow Sapphire is most likely to suit you.

In my case, Rahu is in the 9th with Venus for Mithuna Lagna. Jupiter is in

5th house aspected by Mars (10th), Rahu (9th) and Saturn (11th house).

Though I have many gemstones with me, I cannot wear Yellow Sapphire or

Citrine. Major problems start almost immediately.

I usually take white sapphire for Venus and it is likely to strengthen the

Rasis Taurus and Libra, instead of Pisces, apart from the graha itself. Can

you pass on your birth details if you do not mind?

My point is when a graha is a functional malefic and an enemy of Lagna lord,

should we wear its gemstone? My thoughts and experience tells - No. Now,

when I read your mail regarding Blue sapphire for uplifting Saturn for Aries

lagna, I get this doubt. I am passing this message to Sohamsa as well as to

Sri Swee.. and let us see what all have to say on this matter.

I'd really like to hear Sanjayji's comments too. Hope he isn't busy.

Thanks and Regards

Anuj

On 12/9/06, Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote:

>

> à¤¹à¤°à¥‡ à¤°à¤¾à¤® à¤•à¥ƒà¤·à¥à¤£à¥¥

>

> Dear Bharat, Namaskar

> One of the best examples is myself. I have Scorpio Lagna and Rahu is

> placed in the ninth house. Jupiter is joined Mercury in the eighth.

> Initially i wore substitute stones for Jupiter. I.e. Yellow Citrine and

> then a Heliodore... never a topaz though. After wearing my first gemstone i

> spent the next 2-3 years traveling around the world and learning Jyotish.

> Prior to this i had made some 'blunders' in my education and was left

> somewhat stuck in this matter. I subsequently began formal studies again.

> Recently i began wearing a white sapphire (white for Pisces) and whilst

> I'm happy with the effects, I'm also uncomfortable with some flaws in the

> actual gem. I blame this on my recent inability to pursue some traveling,

> but lets see.

> Yours sincerely,

> --

> Visti Larsen

> email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

> For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

>

> Bharat Hindu Astrology wrote:

>

> Namaste Sri Visti

>

> Can you cite some experiences where you have tried to raise the strength

> of Rasi through gemstones and not of the malefic grahas that the gemstone

> represent? Or point out a relevant article in Jyotish digest pointing out

> the same.

>

> If you remember, in a last thread when Yellow Sapphire was suggested for

> Rahu in Ninth, I had specified that Yellow Sapphire just does not suit me

> and causes many problems. I also like Sri Sanjay Rathji to comment upon the

> same and share his thoughts too.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat (Anuj)

>

> On 12/9/06, *Visti Larsen* <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>>

> wrote:

>

> à¤¹à¤°à¥‡ à¤°à¤¾à¤® à¤•à¥ƒà¤·à¥à¤£à¥¥

>

> Dear Pranav, Namaskar

> I'm happy that you are learning from the lectures. Btw. the mantra is

> normally pronounced: Om Gurave Namah|

>

> I must ask, who is sushma gupta which your email id had written in it?

>

> *o Pratama prasna*

> The wearing of a blue sapphire is to make Capricorn more prominent, and

> thus cause the exaltation of Mars. Similarly for Venus in own sign in

> sixth/eighth we advise Yellow Sapphire to exalted Venus, and make Pisces

> more prominent.

>

> *o Dvitiiya prasna*

> When a kendra lord is a malefic its effects can become very auspicious in

> a dusthana house and form a vipareet raja yoga. This is not so for benefics.

> For example: Saturn in twelfth for Vrishabha lagna is an excellent Vipareet

> Raja Yoga, but Venus in twelfth for Capricorn lagna definitely isn't....

> unless the person travels abroad.

>

> This follows the general principle that malefics are auspicious in

> dusthanas, whilst benefics are auspicious in trikonas. That way Mars in

> twelfth for Leo lagna can prove to be a powerful raja yoga, but jealousy

> from others may remain due to its aspect on the sixth house from lagna.

>

> *o Tritiiya prasna

> *There could be various reasons to advise a gemstone for the ninth house.

> If rahu is joined the ninth house or lord, or aspecting, then no doubt a

> yellow sapphire should be worn... no matter the position of Jupiter. In

> fact, if such a gemstone is not advised the luck of the person simply won't

> start. Instead the person will be running in circles.

>

> Now, if in a case the lord of the ninth house lords an inauspicious house,

> and is ALSO placed in it, we have a problem. Example: for Aries lagna,

> Jupiter in twelfth can cause separation from father, as it is also ninth

> lord. In such cases only advise the gemstone if absolutely necessary to

> avoid a greater evil (rahu, saturn, etc).

>

> Yours sincerely,

> --

> Visti Larsen

> email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

> For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com

> <http://srigaruda.com>

>

> sushmagupta51 wrote:

>

> !Om Gurveh Namah!

>

> Dear Visti ji, Namaskar!

>

> I had an opportunity to listen to your lectures on Gem stones, First of

> all I will like to thank you for doing the informative lecture. It cleared a

> lot of doubts.

>

> I have a couple of Qns:

> 1. *Prescription of Blue sapphire* :

>

> You mention for :

> - Aries/Scorpio Ascendant if Mars is in 8H/6H OR

> - Taurus/Libra Ascendant if Ve in (6H/8H) recommend Blue sapphire.

>

> a. However Aries is sign of debilitation of Saturn, moreover it is

> also a Badhakesh. Is Blue sapphire still recommended?

>

> b. Also Taurus/Libra Asc what if Saturn is placed in bad house like

> 6H or 8H.

> e.g. - Taurus asc â€“ Venus and Saturn (exalted in 6H) in Libra, Is Blue

> sapphire still recommended?

>

> 2. *Strengthening 9th Lord*:

>

> Is it advisable to strengthen 9th Lord if it alongside owns one of the

> malefic houses - 3,6,8,11,12?

> e.g. - Aries Asc Ju lords (9,12) houses

> Cancer Asc Ju lords (6,9) houses

>

> Let me know when you get a moment.

>

> Warm regards,

> Pranav

>

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>

December 13, 2006

Use stones as per k.p. system.

I feel that is the best.

Bharat Hindu Astrology <hinduastrology > wrote: Namaste Visti,

In your case, Jupiter is a friend of lagna lord and a lord of trikona, so Yellow Sapphire is most likely to suit you.

In my case, Rahu is in the 9th with Venus for Mithuna Lagna. Jupiter is in 5th house aspected by Mars (10th), Rahu (9th) and Saturn (11th house). Though I have many gemstones with me, I cannot wear Yellow Sapphire or Citrine. Major problems start almost immediately.

I usually take white sapphire for Venus and it is likely to strengthen the Rasis Taurus and Libra, instead of Pisces, apart from the graha itself. Can you pass on your birth details if you do not mind?

My point is when a graha is a functional malefic and an enemy of Lagna lord, should we wear its gemstone? My thoughts and experience tells - No. Now, when I read your mail regarding Blue sapphire for uplifting Saturn for Aries lagna, I get this doubt. I am passing this message to Sohamsa as well as to Sri Swee.. and let us see what all have to say on this matter.

I'd really like to hear Sanjayji's comments too. Hope he isn't busy.

Thanks and Regards

Anuj

On 12/9/06, Visti Larsen < visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote:

à¤¹à¤°à¥‡ à¤°à¤¾à¤® à¤•à¥ƒà¤·à¥à¤£à¥¥

Dear Bharat, Namaskar

One of the best examples is myself. I have Scorpio Lagna and Rahu is placed in the ninth house. Jupiter is joined Mercury in the eighth.

Initially i wore substitute stones for Jupiter. I.e. Yellow Citrine and then a Heliodore... never a topaz though. After wearing my first gemstone i spent the next 2-3 years traveling around the world and learning Jyotish.

Prior to this i had made some 'blunders' in my education and was left somewhat stuck in this matter. I subsequently began formal studies again.

Recently i began wearing a white sapphire (white for Pisces) and whilst I'm happy with the effects, I'm also uncomfortable with some flaws in the actual gem. I blame this on my recent inability to pursue some traveling, but lets see.

Yours sincerely,

--

Visti Larsen

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

Bharat Hindu Astrology wrote: Namaste Sri Visti

Can you cite some experiences where you have tried to raise the strength of Rasi through gemstones and not of the malefic grahas that the gemstone represent? Or point out a relevant article in Jyotish digest pointing out the same.

If you remember, in a last thread when Yellow Sapphire was suggested for Rahu in Ninth, I had specified that Yellow Sapphire just does not suit me and causes many problems. I also like Sri Sanjay Rathji to comment upon the same and share his thoughts too.

Thanks and Regards

Bharat (Anuj)

On 12/9/06, Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote:

à¤¹à¤°à¥‡ à¤°à¤¾à¤® à¤•à¥ƒà¤·à¥à¤£à¥¥

Dear Pranav, Namaskar

I'm happy that you are learning from the lectures. Btw. the mantra is normally pronounced: Om Gurave Namah|

I must ask, who is sushma gupta which your email id had written in it?

o Pratama prasna

The wearing of a blue sapphire is to make Capricorn more prominent, and thus cause the exaltation of Mars. Similarly for Venus in own sign in sixth/eighth we advise Yellow Sapphire to exalted Venus, and make Pisces more prominent.

o Dvitiiya prasna

When a kendra lord is a malefic its effects can become very auspicious in a dusthana house and form a vipareet raja yoga. This is not so for benefics. For example: Saturn in twelfth for Vrishabha lagna is an excellent Vipareet Raja Yoga, but Venus in twelfth for Capricorn lagna definitely isn't.... unless the person travels abroad.

This follows the general principle that malefics are auspicious in dusthanas, whilst benefics are auspicious in trikonas. That way Mars in twelfth for Leo lagna can prove to be a powerful raja yoga, but jealousy from others may remain due to its aspect on the sixth house from lagna.

o Tritiiya prasna

There could be various reasons to advise a gemstone for the ninth house. If rahu is joined the ninth house or lord, or aspecting, then no doubt a yellow sapphire should be worn... no matter the position of Jupiter. In fact, if such a gemstone is not advised the luck of the person simply won't start. Instead the person will be running in circles.

Now, if in a case the lord of the ninth house lords an inauspicious house, and is ALSO placed in it, we have a problem. Example: for Aries lagna, Jupiter in twelfth can cause separation from father, as it is also ninth lord. In such cases only advise the gemstone if absolutely necessary to avoid a greater evil (rahu, saturn, etc).

Yours sincerely,

--

Visti Larsen

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com

sushmagupta51 wrote: !Om Gurveh Namah!

Dear Visti ji, Namaskar!

I had an opportunity to listen to your lectures on Gem stones, First of all I will like to thank you for doing the informative lecture. It cleared a lot of doubts.

I have a couple of Qns:

1. Prescription of Blue sapphire :

You mention for :

- Aries/Scorpio Ascendant if Mars is in 8H/6H OR

- Taurus/Libra Ascendant if Ve in (6H/8H) recommend Blue sapphire.

a. However Aries is sign of debilitation of Saturn, moreover it is also a Badhakesh. Is Blue sapphire still recommended?

b. Also Taurus/Libra Asc what if Saturn is placed in bad house like 6H or 8H.

e.g. - Taurus asc â€“ Venus and Saturn (exalted in 6H) in Libra, Is Blue sapphire still recommended?

2. Strengthening 9th Lord:

Is it advisable to strengthen 9th Lord if it alongside owns one of the malefic houses - 3,6,8,11,12?

e.g. - Aries Asc Ju lords (9,12) houses

Cancer Asc Ju lords (6,9) houses

Let me know when you get a moment.

Warm regards,

Pranav

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December 13, 2006

II Om Gurave Namah II

Hari om , dear Ramesh L.V.S.S.

Kindly share your experience any case studies done?

Sh KSK has presribed rules but no article is seen to date

about the effects of wearing Gems as far my memory goes.

Any reference please?.

For those interested to have a idea following is the method

1. Main theory of prescribing Gems is use gem for planet that will nulify the evil effects.Choose a planet that is auspicious.Its Gem alone is to be used.

Note He mentioned that following Sayan system /Vedic system can use Gem stones related to Sun in sayan sign/Birth rasi.Tables given are identical and in essence Aries is Equivalent to 22 March to April 23 etc.

2 Alternatively Sub lord of XI cusp is examined. We find in whose constellation sublord falls.This planet in case is significator of I ,II or Xi than Gem of colour representing that planet is used.

So if Sun is Benefic use Orange colour and gold.

Moon --- Pearls. pushparagham

Mars Use Coral , ruby.

Mer - emerald.

Jup - Yellow Sapphire.

Ven - Diamond Silver.

If sat is Benefic , Blue sapphire.

A thought proviking analogy is given by KSK, He says Acquisation of Gems is indicated mostly by a benefic,So one acquires a gem when He is under good period.but sometimes unfortunate people get GEM during Sub Period of a planet who is significator of II but also OF VIII and XII .They suffer.

To summarise One should select such a GEM , the lord of which is the significator of I, II or XI and has nothing to do with VIII and XII.

I know here KP is not discussed but my posting is just for information and Lecture in one of the Wksp on Nakshatra precisely discuused the basics and member can get enjoy and test this method of selection..

Sarve Bhavantu Sukhinah

Sarve Santu Niramaya

Sarve Bhadrani Pasyantu

Ma Kashchid Dukh Bhaag Bhaveit

HARI OM TATSAT

------------------------

R.C.Srivastava

om

------------------------

Oh Creator Of The Universe ! We meditate upon thy

radiant power that illuminate our intellects, destroy

our sins, and guide us in the right direction!

-

RAMESH.L.V.S.S.

Wednesday, December 13, 2006 9:27 AM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Vistiji's Lecture on Gem Stones - questions

Use stones as per k.p. system.

I feel that is the best.

Bharat Hindu Astrology <hinduastrology > wrote:

Namaste Visti,

In your case, Jupiter is a friend of lagna lord and a lord of trikona, so Yellow Sapphire is most likely to suit you.

In my case, Rahu is in the 9th with Venus for Mithuna Lagna. Jupiter is in 5th house aspected by Mars (10th), Rahu (9th) and Saturn (11th house). Though I have many gemstones with me, I cannot wear Yellow Sapphire or Citrine. Major problems start almost immediately.

I usually take white sapphire for Venus and it is likely to strengthen the Rasis Taurus and Libra, instead of Pisces, apart from the graha itself. Can you pass on your birth details if you do not mind?

My point is when a graha is a functional malefic and an enemy of Lagna lord, should we wear its gemstone? My thoughts and experience tells - No. Now, when I read your mail regarding Blue sapphire for uplifting Saturn for Aries lagna, I get this doubt. I am passing this message to Sohamsa as well as to Sri Swee.. and let us see what all have to say on this matter.

I'd really like to hear Sanjayji's comments too. Hope he isn't busy.

Thanks and Regards

Anuj

On 12/9/06, Visti Larsen < visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote:

à¤¹à¤°à¥? à¤°à¤¾à¤® à¤.à¥fà¤·à¥à¤£à¥¥

Dear Bharat, Namaskar

One of the best examples is myself. I have Scorpio Lagna and Rahu is placed in the ninth house. Jupiter is joined Mercury in the eighth.

Initially i wore substitute stones for Jupiter. I.e. Yellow Citrine and then a Heliodore... never a topaz though. After wearing my first gemstone i spent the next 2-3 years traveling around the world and learning Jyotish.

Prior to this i had made some 'blunders' in my education and was left somewhat stuck in this matter. I subsequently began formal studies again.

Recently i began wearing a white sapphire (white for Pisces) and whilst I'm happy with the effects, I'm also uncomfortable with some flaws in the actual gem. I blame this on my recent inability to pursue some traveling, but lets see.

Yours sincerely,

--

Visti Larsen

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

Bharat Hindu Astrology wrote:

Namaste Sri Visti

Can you cite some experiences where you have tried to raise the strength of Rasi through gemstones and not of the malefic grahas that the gemstone represent? Or point out a relevant article in Jyotish digest pointing out the same.

If you remember, in a last thread when Yellow Sapphire was suggested for Rahu in Ninth, I had specified that Yellow Sapphire just does not suit me and causes many problems. I also like Sri Sanjay Rathji to comment upon the same and share his thoughts too.

Thanks and Regards

Bharat (Anuj)

On 12/9/06, Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote:

à¤¹à¤°à¥? à¤°à¤¾à¤® à¤.à¥fà¤·à¥à¤£à¥¥

Dear Pranav, Namaskar

I'm happy that you are learning from the lectures. Btw. the mantra is normally pronounced: Om Gurave Namah|

I must ask, who is sushma gupta which your email id had written in it?

o Pratama prasna

The wearing of a blue sapphire is to make Capricorn more prominent, and thus cause the exaltation of Mars. Similarly for Venus in own sign in sixth/eighth we advise Yellow Sapphire to exalted Venus, and make Pisces more prominent.

o Dvitiiya prasna

When a kendra lord is a malefic its effects can become very auspicious in a dusthana house and form a vipareet raja yoga. This is not so for benefics. For example: Saturn in twelfth for Vrishabha lagna is an excellent Vipareet Raja Yoga, but Venus in twelfth for Capricorn lagna definitely isn't.... unless the person travels abroad.

This follows the general principle that malefics are auspicious in dusthanas, whilst benefics are auspicious in trikonas. That way Mars in twelfth for Leo lagna can prove to be a powerful raja yoga, but jealousy from others may remain due to its aspect on the sixth house from lagna.

o Tritiiya prasna

There could be various reasons to advise a gemstone for the ninth house. If rahu is joined the ninth house or lord, or aspecting, then no doubt a yellow sapphire should be worn... no matter the position of Jupiter. In fact, if such a gemstone is not advised the luck of the person simply won't start. Instead the person will be running in circles.

Now, if in a case the lord of the ninth house lords an inauspicious house, and is ALSO placed in it, we have a problem. Example: for Aries lagna, Jupiter in twelfth can cause separation from father, as it is also ninth lord. In such cases only advise the gemstone if absolutely necessary to avoid a greater evil (rahu, saturn, etc).

Yours sincerely,

--

Visti Larsen

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com

sushmagupta51 wrote:

!Om Gurveh Namah!

Dear Visti ji, Namaskar!

I had an opportunity to listen to your lectures on Gem stones, First of all I will like to thank you for doing the informative lecture. It cleared a lot of doubts.

I have a couple of Qns:

1. Prescription of Blue sapphire :

You mention for :

- Aries/Scorpio Ascendant if Mars is in 8H/6H OR

- Taurus/Libra Ascendant if Ve in (6H/8H) recommend Blue sapphire.

a. However Aries is sign of debilitation of Saturn, moreover it is also a Badhakesh. Is Blue sapphire still recommended?

b. Also Taurus/Libra Asc what if Saturn is placed in bad house like 6H or 8H.

e.g. - Taurus asc â?" Venus and Saturn (exalted in 6H) in Libra, Is Blue sapphire still recommended?

2. Strengthening 9th Lord:

Is it advisable to strengthen 9th Lord if it alongside owns one of the malefic houses - 3,6,8,11,12?

e.g. - Aries Asc Ju lords (9,12) houses

Cancer Asc Ju lords (6,9) houses

Let me know when you get a moment.

Warm regards,

Pranav

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December 14, 2006

à¤¹à¤°à¥‡ à¤°à¤¾à¤® à¤•à¥ƒà¤·à¥à¤£à¥¥

Dear Anuj and Swee, Namaskar

Sanjayji is likely to be unavailable for the next few weeks, but i'm

sure he will give a word or two once he is available.

I was born 21st November 1981 at 6:08 AM, Nairobi, Kenya.

In the case of PV Narasimha Rao who wore a coral, Mars is the WORST

enemy of his lagnesh Mercury according to the Panchada Sambandha

(tatkalika+naisargika). So the logic of friendship/enmity didn't work

here. Further Mars is lord of third and eighth houses for Virgo lagna.

He was born:

Rao, P.V. Narasimha

June 28, 1921

Time: 12:49:00 pm

Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT)

Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00"

Point is that we cannot take the lordship blindly. We must also see

planetary yogas as well.

If the lord of a bhava is in a parivartana or yuti with another planet,

it will give the results of the other planet when its gemstone is worn.

Example: Say for Aries Lagna Jupiter is in the sixth house and Mercury

is in the ninth - Parivartana Yoga exists between them. If a Yellow

Sapphire is worn for Jupiter, this will result in enmity, diseases, etc.

But, if an emerald is worn it will give fortune and auspicious direction.

Now take the case of P.V. Narasimha Rao: Mars, Sun and Mercury are

joined in the tenth house in Gemini. Mercury is the lagnesh forming a

Bhadra Mahapurusha Yoga, whilst Sun and Mars are forming a Vipareeta

Raja Yoga through their conjunction as they are 12th, 3rd and 8th lords

in conjunction.

To protect and enhance the lagna we need to strengthen Mercury. But, due

to the yuti the wearing of the Emerald will enhance the effects of Sun

and Mars. So we need to advise either Sun or Mars. Of these Mars is the

most malefic and will exchange results with Mercury, hence, he was

advised to wear a Coral.

This principle will not work with the 2 latter types of sambandha namely

samdristi and dristi-parivartana, which are temporary in nature.

Yours sincerely,

--

Visti Larsen

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

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Bharat Hindu Astrology wrote:

>

> Namaste Visti,

>

> In your case, Jupiter is a friend of lagna lord and a lord of trikona,

> so Yellow Sapphire is most likely to suit you.

>

> In my case, Rahu is in the 9th with Venus for Mithuna Lagna. Jupiter

> is in 5th house aspected by Mars (10th), Rahu (9th) and Saturn (11th

> house). Though I have many gemstones with me, I cannot wear Yellow

> Sapphire or Citrine. Major problems start almost immediately.

>

> I usually take white sapphire for Venus and it is likely to strengthen

> the Rasis Taurus and Libra, instead of Pisces, apart from the graha

> itself. Can you pass on your birth details if you do not mind?

>

> My point is when a graha is a functional malefic and an enemy of Lagna

> lord, should we wear its gemstone? My thoughts and experience tells -

> No. Now, when I read your mail regarding Blue sapphire for uplifting

> Saturn for Aries lagna, I get this doubt. I am passing this message to

> Sohamsa as well as to Sri Swee.. and let us see what all have to say

> on this matter.

>

> I'd really like to hear Sanjayji's comments too. Hope he isn't busy.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Anuj

>

> On 12/9/06, *Visti Larsen* < visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

> <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>> wrote:

>

> à¤¹à¤°à¥‡ à¤°à¤¾à¤® à¤•à¥ƒà¤·à¥à¤£à¥¥

>

> Dear Bharat, Namaskar

> One of the best examples is myself. I have Scorpio Lagna and Rahu

> is placed in the ninth house. Jupiter is joined Mercury in the eighth.

> Initially i wore substitute stones for Jupiter. I.e. Yellow

> Citrine and then a Heliodore... never a topaz though. After

> wearing my first gemstone i spent the next 2-3 years traveling

> around the world and learning Jyotish.

> Prior to this i had made some 'blunders' in my education and was

> left somewhat stuck in this matter. I subsequently began formal

> studies again.

> Recently i began wearing a white sapphire (white for Pisces) and

> whilst I'm happy with the effects, I'm also uncomfortable with

> some flaws in the actual gem. I blame this on my recent inability

> to pursue some traveling, but lets see.

> Yours sincerely,

>

> --

> Visti Larsen

> email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

> For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com

> <http://srigaruda.com>

>

> Bharat Hindu Astrology wrote:

>>

>> Namaste Sri Visti

>>

>> Can you cite some experiences where you have tried to raise the

>> strength of Rasi through gemstones and not of the malefic grahas

>> that the gemstone represent? Or point out a relevant article in

>> Jyotish digest pointing out the same.

>>

>> If you remember, in a last thread when Yellow Sapphire was

>> suggested for Rahu in Ninth, I had specified that Yellow Sapphire

>> just does not suit me and causes many problems. I also like Sri

>> Sanjay Rathji to comment upon the same and share his thoughts too.

>>

>> Thanks and Regards

>> Bharat (Anuj)

>>

>> On 12/9/06, *Visti Larsen* <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

>> <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>> wrote:

>>

>> à¤¹à¤°à¥‡ à¤°à¤¾à¤® à¤•à¥ƒà¤·à¥à¤£à¥¥

>>

>> Dear Pranav, Namaskar

>> I'm happy that you are learning from the lectures. Btw. the

>> mantra is normally pronounced: Om Gurave Namah|

>>

>> I must ask, who is sushma gupta which your email id had

>> written in it?

>>

>> *o Pratama prasna*

>> The wearing of a blue sapphire is to make Capricorn more

>> prominent, and thus cause the exaltation of Mars. Similarly

>> for Venus in own sign in sixth/eighth we advise Yellow

>> Sapphire to exalted Venus, and make Pisces more prominent.

>>

>> *o Dvitiiya prasna*

>> When a kendra lord is a malefic its effects can become very

>> auspicious in a dusthana house and form a vipareet raja yoga.

>> This is not so for benefics. For example: Saturn in twelfth

>> for Vrishabha lagna is an excellent Vipareet Raja Yoga, but

>> Venus in twelfth for Capricorn lagna definitely isn't....

>> unless the person travels abroad.

>>

>> This follows the general principle that malefics are

>> auspicious in dusthanas, whilst benefics are auspicious in

>> trikonas. That way Mars in twelfth for Leo lagna can prove to

>> be a powerful raja yoga, but jealousy from others may remain

>> due to its aspect on the sixth house from lagna.

>>

>> *o Tritiiya prasna

>> *There could be various reasons to advise a gemstone for the

>> ninth house. If rahu is joined the ninth house or lord, or

>> aspecting, then no doubt a yellow sapphire should be worn...

>> no matter the position of Jupiter. In fact, if such a

>> gemstone is not advised the luck of the person simply won't

>> start. Instead the person will be running in circles.

>>

>> Now, if in a case the lord of the ninth house lords an

>> inauspicious house, and is ALSO placed in it, we have a

>> problem. Example: for Aries lagna, Jupiter in twelfth can

>> cause separation from father, as it is also ninth lord. In

>> such cases only advise the gemstone if absolutely necessary

>> to avoid a greater evil (rahu, saturn, etc).

>>

>> Yours sincerely,

>>

>> --

>> Visti Larsen

>> email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

>> For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com

>> <http://srigaruda.com>

>>

>> sushmagupta51 wrote:

>>> !Om Gurveh Namah!

>>>

>>> Dear Visti ji, Namaskar!

>>>

>>> I had an opportunity to listen to your lectures on Gem

>>> stones, First of all I will like to thank you for doing the

>>> informative lecture. It cleared a lot of doubts.

>>>

>>> I have a couple of Qns:

>>> 1. *Prescription of Blue sapphire* :

>>>

>>> You mention for :

>>> - Aries/Scorpio Ascendant if Mars is in 8H/6H OR

>>> - Taurus/Libra Ascendant if Ve in (6H/8H) recommend Blue

>>> sapphire.

>>>

>>> a. However Aries is sign of debilitation of Saturn,

>>> moreover it is also a Badhakesh. Is Blue sapphire still

>>> recommended?

>>>

>>> b. Also Taurus/Libra Asc what if Saturn is placed in

>>> bad house like 6H or 8H.

>>> e.g. - Taurus asc â€“ Venus and Saturn (exalted in 6H) in

>>> Libra, Is Blue sapphire still recommended?

>>>

>>> 2. *Strengthening 9th Lord*:

>>>

>>> Is it advisable to strengthen 9th Lord if it alongside owns

>>> one of the malefic houses - 3,6,8,11,12?

>>> e.g. - Aries Asc Ju lords (9,12) houses

>>> Cancer Asc Ju lords (6,9) houses

>>>

>>> Let me know when you get a moment.

>>>

>>> Warm regards,

>>> Pranav

>>>

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>>

>

December 14, 2006

Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah : Hare Rama krsna

Pranam to all Gurus and members

Was going through the audio and the discussion on gemstones here...in

reference to Prime minister Narshima Rao ji , i found that i have a similar

virgo lagna, with mercury and mars conjunct in 7th house.

Place Jaipur city, India

Long 75 E 49 Lat 26 N 55

date 15th April 1979

time 18:05

Since mercury may give the results of mars , do u suggest i should wear an

coral instead of emerald which i am wearing at moment to strengthen my lagna

lord... Also mars is my moon sign and even my Hora lagna is conjunct mars

and mercury forming kevala maha yogada. do u really suggest coral ?

Since both planets are MKS and mercury debilated, i need to bring my LL

mercury out of its debilation , which i am doing though mantras.

Also after listening to audios, i was wondering i am soon to enter,

merc-saturn vimshottri dasha , also saturn 5th and 6th lord these days

transits my birth natal in 12th house, and aspects 2, 6. 9th house. Do u

suggest i should go for wearing an blue sapphire in the left hand for the

same.

Lookign forwards for your kindly suggestions.

Regards

Swati

Om gurave namah

On 12/14/06, Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote:

>

> à¤¹à¤°à¥‡ à¤°à¤¾à¤® à¤•à¥ƒà¤·à¥à¤£à¥¥

>

> Dear Anuj and Swee, Namaskar

> Sanjayji is likely to be unavailable for the next few weeks, but i'm sure

> he will give a word or two once he is available.

>

> I was born 21st November 1981 at 6:08 AM, Nairobi, Kenya.

>

> In the case of PV Narasimha Rao who wore a coral, Mars is the WORST enemy

> of his lagnesh Mercury according to the Panchada Sambandha

> (tatkalika+naisargika). So the logic of friendship/enmity didn't work here.

> Further Mars is lord of third and eighth houses for Virgo lagna.

> He was born:

>

> Rao, P.V. Narasimha

> June 28, 1921

> Time: 12:49:00 pm

> Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT)

> Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00"

>

> Point is that we cannot take the lordship blindly. We must also see

> planetary yogas as well.

> If the lord of a bhava is in a parivartana or yuti with another planet, it

> will give the results of the other planet when its gemstone is worn.

>

> Example: Say for Aries Lagna Jupiter is in the sixth house and Mercury is

> in the ninth - Parivartana Yoga exists between them. If a Yellow Sapphire is

> worn for Jupiter, this will result in enmity, diseases, etc. But, if an

> emerald is worn it will give fortune and auspicious direction.

>

> Now take the case of P.V. Narasimha Rao: Mars, Sun and Mercury are joined

> in the tenth house in Gemini. Mercury is the lagnesh forming a Bhadra

> Mahapurusha Yoga, whilst Sun and Mars are forming a Vipareeta Raja Yoga

> through their conjunction as they are 12th, 3rd and 8th lords in

> conjunction.

>

> To protect and enhance the lagna we need to strengthen Mercury. But, due

> to the yuti the wearing of the Emerald will enhance the effects of Sun and

> Mars. So we need to advise either Sun or Mars. Of these Mars is the most

> malefic and will exchange results with Mercury, hence, he was advised to

> wear a Coral.

>

> This principle will not work with the 2 latter types of sambandha namely

> samdristi and dristi-parivartana, which are temporary in nature.

>

> Yours sincerely,

> --

> Visti Larsen

> email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

> For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

>

> Bharat Hindu Astrology wrote:

>

> Namaste Visti,

>

> In your case, Jupiter is a friend of lagna lord and a lord of trikona, so

> Yellow Sapphire is most likely to suit you.

>

> In my case, Rahu is in the 9th with Venus for Mithuna Lagna. Jupiter is in

> 5th house aspected by Mars (10th), Rahu (9th) and Saturn (11th house).

> Though I have many gemstones with me, I cannot wear Yellow Sapphire or

> Citrine. Major problems start almost immediately.

>

> I usually take white sapphire for Venus and it is likely to strengthen the

> Rasis Taurus and Libra, instead of Pisces, apart from the graha itself. Can

> you pass on your birth details if you do not mind?

>

> My point is when a graha is a functional malefic and an enemy of Lagna

> lord, should we wear its gemstone? My thoughts and experience tells - No.

> Now, when I read your mail regarding Blue sapphire for uplifting Saturn for

> Aries lagna, I get this doubt. I am passing this message to Sohamsa as well

> as to Sri Swee.. and let us see what all have to say on this matter.

>

> I'd really like to hear Sanjayji's comments too. Hope he isn't busy.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Anuj

>

> On 12/9/06, *Visti Larsen* < visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>>