Guest guest Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 Om Shri Matre Namaha Can anyone give me the Gayatri mantra of Kamala Devi?? IS it the same as Lakshmi mantra?? Secondly, where can i find prayers related to the 10 Maha Vidyas? Is it true that to do Khagamala or Sri vidya nyasas or Lalita sahasramanam or any mantra which have beej in it, we should get initiated by a Guru?? Or Else it will have side effects on us!!! Hope to get some clarifications on that!! Thanks Parishant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 --- Parishant <paribus81 > wrote: > Is it true that to do Khagamala or Sri vidya nyasas > or Lalita > sahasramanam or any mantra which have beej in it, we > should get > initiated by a Guru?? Or Else it will have side > effects on us!!! Dear Parishant Khadgamala stotram can be freely recited by anyone. Please refer to the FAQ on this given in the SS site which is quite succint. As for Lalita Sahasranamam, the traditional view was that one should learn it from a Guru. This was probably because most of us followed oral tradition. If you are able to learn to recite Lalita Sahasranamam on your own, fine... go ahead. I can assure you there will be no side effects (at least the harmful kind). As for mantras, one naturally has to be more careful for swara and pronunciation of mantras are of paramount importance. It is next to impossible to get it right unless one is taught and instructed by an accomplished master. Better leave the mantras alone. When you have Lalita Sahasranamam and Khadgamala, why worry about mantras! Sri Vidya is serious business. No experimentation allowed. One sure does require proper initiation. I do hope I have been of some help. There are other very, very learned people in the group who certainly can help you. JR > Hope to get some clarifications on that!! > > Thanks > Parishant > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta. http://new.mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 The principle behind is that the capable guru transmits to the disciple the subtle energy of each nyasa so that the disciple gets the energy to sustain and improve it. Once the Guru initiates the person, the divine energy of the guru and the disciple becomes one and there exists no difference. When people believe and do lalitha sahasranama, it is unfortunate they do not believe the phala stuthi, which clearly says that those chanting lalitha sahasranama without panchadasi mantra upadesa are cursed by the gupta yoginis. Why not follow the dictum properly instead of violating the rules laid down, if there is belief. Regards, S.SHANGARANARAYANAN Radhakrishnan J <jayaarshree > Monday, December 11, 2006 9:02:21 PM Re: Mantras --- Parishant <paribus81 > wrote: > Is it true that to do Khagamala or Sri vidya nyasas > or Lalita > sahasramanam or any mantra which have beej in it, we > should get > initiated by a Guru?? Or Else it will have side > effects on us!!! Dear Parishant Khadgamala stotram can be freely recited by anyone. Please refer to the FAQ on this given in the SS site which is quite succint. As for Lalita Sahasranamam, the traditional view was that one should learn it from a Guru. This was probably because most of us followed oral tradition. If you are able to learn to recite Lalita Sahasranamam on your own, fine... go ahead. I can assure you there will be no side effects (at least the harmful kind). As for mantras, one naturally has to be more careful for swara and pronunciation of mantras are of paramount importance. It is next to impossible to get it right unless one is taught and instructed by an accomplished master. Better leave the mantras alone. When you have Lalita Sahasranamam and Khadgamala, why worry about mantras! Sri Vidya is serious business. No experimentation allowed. One sure does require proper initiation. I do hope I have been of some help. There are other very, very learned people in the group who certainly can help you. JR > Hope to get some clarifications on that!! > > Thanks > Parishant > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta. http://new.mail. Cheap talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 All worship of Tripura Sundari must come from a Guru. This is the case with all maha vidyas. One who does thier worship through vidya, stotra or yantra (i.e. avarana), or even mudra (incl nyasa) is in fault without having proper diksha from a patra Guru. No Maha Vidya is the exception to this, it is only a recent event that their tantras have come into mass publication where anyone can get access to (what was previously) the secret rites of their worship. This is why the stotras say that the mantras of their respective maha vidya is so difficult to attain since those very stotras come from a specific lineage. Many Shri Vidya mantras came from Shiva, Narada, Datta, Daxinamurti, Vishnu or HayagrIva. They have established traditions and it is best to visit some of the shakti peethas of Lalita to get diksha in her mantras. Khadgamala is no exception as one acknowledges a very specific natha sampradaya within the stotra itself, you must be inducted into that stotra to be officially worthy of reciting it. No one is stopping you, its just that it is improper and does not abide by established protocol. At the end only Devi decides. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 >When people believe and do lalitha sahasranama, it is unfortunate >they do not believe the phala stuthi, which clearly says that those >chanting lalitha sahasranama without panchadasi mantra upadesa are >cursed by the gupta yoginis. Cursed?! why ever would divine Mother allow such a thing for her children who chant to her with devotion. Never. What to say of Mata Amritanandamayi's counsel that devotees chant this sahasranama, and without pancadasi initiation? Doesn't the sun shine its light on all, and they can make of it what they are able? How could the Mother behave like a proud miser who keeps his treasure tightly clutched in his grip, and all the while thinking how special he is. Max Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Namaste It's true that I've been doing, Lalita Sahasramanam at first but stop because i've heard without the blessing of a Guru, it will be not good, same apply recently for Khadgamala and Sri Vidya Nyasa Now finally I dnt knw what to do... but im willing to learn, Im not discouraged but ready to be guided properly step by step... The ONLY problem that i have, is here in Mauritius, I don't have any guru!!! Where I will find a Guru? But I do believe that Devi Maa will surely show me a way because I just want to serve her with all my devotion and love, and always be with her! Thanks Parishant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 , sangar narayanan <mackro1932 wrote: When people believe and do lalitha sahasranama, it is unfortunate they do not believe the phala stuthi, which clearly says that those chanting lalitha sahasranama without panchadasi mantra upadesa are cursed by the gupta yoginis. Why not follow the dictum properly instead of violating the rules laid down, if there is belief. Now lets go back to the beginning when Hayagrive said ; Oh! Agastya, Husband of Lopamudra, listen with concentration. I shall tell you why i did not instruct you in the thousands names. I did not tell you that because I thought it was a secret, and for no other reason as you have now asked me with devotion, I shall impart that to you. The teacher may impart to a student who is possessed with devotion, but shall never impart to one who has no devotion. Never to a rougue to a wicked man, nor to at any time to one who is devoid of faity. It shall only be imparted only to one who is thoroughtly devoted to the divine mother, to one who understands the Vidyaraja. TO a upasaka who is pure, you may impart the thousand names. .etc..... Again lets look at this line : he who is anxious of learning [ knowledge ] becomes learned by chanting this sahasranma. O muni, there is no other hymn equal to this in merit which confer both worldly attainments and salvation at the same time. Lets read this statement : Just as Sri Vidya is to be kept secret, so also O muni, this sahasranama, should be kept concealed from the eyes of the uninitiated. This holy hum ought not to be promulgated among those nature resembles that of beasts. If a person so loses his wits as to impart this to one who is not initiated into Sri Vidya, the Yoginis curse him and it is a source of great loss to him. YES! Indeed you are right, this means that those great gurus out there like Amritananda natha, Ammachi, Bhasurananda Natha and many other gurus who themselves have encourage people to recite the lalitha sahasranama are curse by the gupta yoginis. But again lets look at the last sentence : It is by the command of Lalitha that this holy hymns is declared to thee. Therefore O pot- born One! do thou chant this always with devotion. Who says this last sentence : the horse face one. Who is this horse face one. Is he not one of the great guru too? What do we all understand the term Guru? Are they not considered DEVI manifested? So you mean to say The Gupta Yogins would curse DEVI? If all the great gurus have declared that its safe for unintiated to recite the lalitha sahasranama, isnt that too the wishes of DEVI herself? sangar narayanan statement remind me of an email I received sometime back. One of the members in malaysia send an article from a local Malay newpaper, in it a translation of the manu law in Malay. Now we all know Manu law eh. What's the article about : how one should treat a widow, a wife... a woman. And then say : you see this is how hindu treat their woman. The muslims / syariah law are more humane and just. That is what these people are doing here, they take a law that is outdate and not applicable anymore and publish it to justify their ideas and to show how cruel the hindus are. Maybe you are right sangar narayana, Hindu are indeed cruel. Now in ancient times the law is very straight forward : if you kill another, u get killed. No questions abt it. You do not wait for years to have your sentence carried out. You commit the crime today, one week time you get hang or shot. Simple and easy eh. But then comes a beautiful realise soul who said, now wait! lets access the situation. This realized souls knows that there is more than just kiling and being killed. Why one kill in the first place? What have happen now? We have the court of law. We have the judge, we have lawyers and suddenly everything become very complex. Suddenly such terms as premeditated murder, or provoke murder or planned murder becomes a subject. Murders are now considered innocent unless proven guilty. The law have become more humane and just. Why? because of these group of realized soul who know that the law need to change according to time. People are more complex and different. The whole environment have change altogether. How can you try to apply an ancient law to the modern environment. Do tell me how can a mother turn her back on her child when she hears the cries of her child wanting to hear/sing her most important thousand names. Didnt the great horse face one said : "therefore to gain the divine mother's favour one should repeat this continously" and "The devotees od Lalitha should always repeat this; and in no ther way can DEVI be pleased, even for crores of years to come." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Just keep chanting. LSN is an athi rahasya. For someone to have it itself is not possible w/o any poorva punya. To get even the slightest interest to chant does not happen w/o HER wish. Blessing of a Guru........where and how are you going to get one in Mauritius?? Interesting.....that is why you are reading/studying/chanting LSN. Just think how you got to that point of getting it and started to chant it. Think about everything and try to rationalize. Meanwhile, just keep chanting LSN and KS. Oh for just the fun of it.......yes, some say they should not be chanted w/o a Guru. But then, are they your guru?? If not, why the heck do u care/listen to them??? SHE is your Guru and enjoy chanting HER Names. , "Parishant" <paribus81 wrote: > > Namaste > > It's true that I've been doing, Lalita Sahasramanam at first but stop > because i've heard without the blessing of a Guru, it will be not > good, same apply recently for Khadgamala and Sri Vidya Nyasa > > Now finally I dnt knw what to do... but im willing to learn, Im not > discouraged but ready to be guided properly step by step... > > The ONLY problem that i have, is here in Mauritius, I don't have any > guru!!! Where I will find a Guru? > > But I do believe that Devi Maa will surely show me a way because I > just want to serve her with all my devotion and love, and always be > with her! > > Thanks > Parishant > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Jai Shri Mataji! Dear Prishant, It is wonderful to see your love of the Mother .,and also for you search for a true Guru to teach you and initiate you into Her Most Sacred and Powerful Worship. Still, a true Maha Guru is not limited by space. It is of no importance that there is no guru ion Mauritius.Have you searched and found that there is absolutely no true spiritual Master available?? Regards, Dionisis P.S.I have already given you a hint in this email about a Great Guru Who is available to you!Please,note, that I am referring to an Incarnated Master.... - Parishant Tuesday, December 12, 2006 8:31 AM Re: Mantras Namaste It's true that I've been doing, Lalita Sahasramanam at first but stop because i've heard without the blessing of a Guru, it will be not good, same apply recently for Khadgamala and Sri Vidya Nyasa Now finally I dnt knw what to do... but im willing to learn, Im not discouraged but ready to be guided properly step by step... The ONLY problem that i have, is here in Mauritius, I don't have any guru!!! Where I will find a Guru? But I do believe that Devi Maa will surely show me a way because I just want to serve her with all my devotion and love, and always be with her! Thanks Parishant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Dear all, About this holy hymn Lalita Sasranama, in my understanding it is true that all the Divine Gurus can know whether their disciples should or should not chant the 1.000 Names of Shri Lalita Devi but again who is the true guru and who is the false?How can one decide? Regards, Dennis - NMadasamy Tuesday, December 12, 2006 8:36 AM Re: Mantras , sangar narayanan <mackro1932 wrote: When people believe and do lalitha sahasranama, it is unfortunate they do not believe the phala stuthi, which clearly says that those chanting lalitha sahasranama without panchadasi mantra upadesa are cursed by the gupta yoginis. Why not follow the dictum properly instead of violating the rules laid down, if there is belief. Now lets go back to the beginning when Hayagrive said ; Oh! Agastya, Husband of Lopamudra, listen with concentration. I shall tell you why i did not instruct you in the thousands names. I did not tell you that because I thought it was a secret, and for no other reason as you have now asked me with devotion, I shall impart that to you. The teacher may impart to a student who is possessed with devotion, but shall never impart to one who has no devotion. Never to a rougue to a wicked man, nor to at any time to one who is devoid of faity. It shall only be imparted only to one who is thoroughtly devoted to the divine mother, to one who understands the Vidyaraja. TO a upasaka who is pure, you may impart the thousand names. .etc..... Again lets look at this line : he who is anxious of learning [ knowledge ] becomes learned by chanting this sahasranma. O muni, there is no other hymn equal to this in merit which confer both worldly attainments and salvation at the same time. Lets read this statement : Just as Sri Vidya is to be kept secret, so also O muni, this sahasranama, should be kept concealed from the eyes of the uninitiated. This holy hum ought not to be promulgated among those nature resembles that of beasts. If a person so loses his wits as to impart this to one who is not initiated into Sri Vidya, the Yoginis curse him and it is a source of great loss to him. YES! Indeed you are right, this means that those great gurus out there like Amritananda natha, Ammachi, Bhasurananda Natha and many other gurus who themselves have encourage people to recite the lalitha sahasranama are curse by the gupta yoginis. But again lets look at the last sentence : It is by the command of Lalitha that this holy hymns is declared to thee. Therefore O pot- born One! do thou chant this always with devotion. Who says this last sentence : the horse face one. Who is this horse face one. Is he not one of the great guru too? What do we all understand the term Guru? Are they not considered DEVI manifested? So you mean to say The Gupta Yogins would curse DEVI? If all the great gurus have declared that its safe for unintiated to recite the lalitha sahasranama, isnt that too the wishes of DEVI herself? sangar narayanan statement remind me of an email I received sometime back. One of the members in malaysia send an article from a local Malay newpaper, in it a translation of the manu law in Malay. Now we all know Manu law eh. What's the article about : how one should treat a widow, a wife... a woman. And then say : you see this is how hindu treat their woman. The muslims / syariah law are more humane and just. That is what these people are doing here, they take a law that is outdate and not applicable anymore and publish it to justify their ideas and to show how cruel the hindus are. Maybe you are right sangar narayana, Hindu are indeed cruel. Now in ancient times the law is very straight forward : if you kill another, u get killed. No questions abt it. You do not wait for years to have your sentence carried out. You commit the crime today, one week time you get hang or shot. Simple and easy eh. But then comes a beautiful realise soul who said, now wait! lets access the situation. This realized souls knows that there is more than just kiling and being killed. Why one kill in the first place? What have happen now? We have the court of law. We have the judge, we have lawyers and suddenly everything become very complex. Suddenly such terms as premeditated murder, or provoke murder or planned murder becomes a subject. Murders are now considered innocent unless proven guilty. The law have become more humane and just. Why? because of these group of realized soul who know that the law need to change according to time. People are more complex and different. The whole environment have change altogether. How can you try to apply an ancient law to the modern environment. Do tell me how can a mother turn her back on her child when she hears the cries of her child wanting to hear/sing her most important thousand names. Didnt the great horse face one said : "therefore to gain the divine mother's favour one should repeat this continously" and "The devotees od Lalitha should always repeat this; and in no ther way can DEVI be pleased, even for crores of years to come." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Dear Parishant, If you are a brahmin and a regular practiser of the gayathri japa then you can recite the lalithasahasranama. The last verses of the benefits of the lalithasahasranama state that if anyone chants the hymn without being initiated into Sri Vidya will be cursed by the Yoginis and it will be a great loss to him. So first find a brahmin to teach you the gayathri and then you can practise the sahasranama. Blessings --- Parishant <paribus81 > wrote: > Namaste > > It's true that I've been doing, Lalita Sahasramanam > at first but stop > because i've heard without the blessing of a Guru, > it will be not > good, same apply recently for Khadgamala and Sri > Vidya Nyasa > > Now finally I dnt knw what to do... but im willing > to learn, Im not > discouraged but ready to be guided properly step by > step... > > The ONLY problem that i have, is here in Mauritius, > I don't have any > guru!!! Where I will find a Guru? > > But I do believe that Devi Maa will surely show me a > way because I > just want to serve her with all my devotion and > love, and always be > with her! > > Thanks > Parishant > > Have a burning question? Go to www.Answers. and get answers from real people who know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Dear Parishant, I'm Brahma Rishi Bharadwaj a Vaishnavite who was initiated into the shakti path in Avantica 12 thousand years back and have performed many miracles through the grace of Mother Lalitha and am still doing the same. There is guru in trichy who will be willing to initiate you if you come to india. I'll ask the mother to send you a guru. Blessings --- ganpra <ganpra (AT) rocketmail (DOT) com> wrote: > Just keep chanting. > > LSN is an athi rahasya. For someone to have it > itself is not possible > w/o any poorva punya. To get even the slightest > interest to chant > does not happen w/o HER wish. > > Blessing of a Guru........where and how are you > going to get one in > Mauritius?? Interesting.....that is why you are > reading/studying/chanting LSN. > > Just think how you got to that point of getting it > and started to > chant it. Think about everything and try to > rationalize. > > Meanwhile, just keep chanting LSN and KS. > > Oh for just the fun of it.......yes, some say they > should not be > chanted w/o a Guru. But then, are they your guru?? > If not, why the > heck do u care/listen to them??? > > SHE is your Guru and enjoy chanting HER Names. > > , "Parishant" > <paribus81 > wrote: > > > > Namaste > > > > It's true that I've been doing, Lalita > Sahasramanam at first but > stop > > because i've heard without the blessing of a Guru, > it will be not > > good, same apply recently for Khadgamala and Sri > Vidya Nyasa > > > > Now finally I dnt knw what to do... but im willing > to learn, Im not > > discouraged but ready to be guided properly step > by step... > > > > The ONLY problem that i have, is here in > Mauritius, I don't have > any > > guru!!! Where I will find a Guru? > > > > But I do believe that Devi Maa will surely show me > a way because I > > just want to serve her with all my devotion and > love, and always be > > with her! > > > > Thanks > > Parishant > > > > > Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small Business. http://smallbusiness./r-index Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Dear Dennis, Dont worry if the guru is true or false. Take initiation and chant the hymn and ask the mother to be your guru and she will guide you. But also remember she will send many women to test you to see if you will respect women or lust upon them and if you do lust upon women she will throw you in hell. You can have one wife with her permission. Blessings --- Dennis <mprgrandmaster (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: > Dear all, > About this holy hymn Lalita Sasranama, in my > understanding it is true that all the Divine Gurus > can know whether their disciples should or should > not chant the 1.000 Names of Shri Lalita Devi but > again who is the true guru and who is the false?How > can one decide? > Regards, > Dennis > - > NMadasamy > > Tuesday, December 12, 2006 8:36 AM > Re: Mantras > > > , sangar > narayanan > <mackro1932 wrote: When people believe and do > lalitha > sahasranama, it is unfortunate they do not believe > the phala stuthi, > which clearly says that those chanting lalitha > sahasranama without > panchadasi mantra upadesa are cursed by the gupta > yoginis. Why not > follow the dictum properly instead of violating > the rules laid down, > if there is belief. > > Now lets go back to the beginning when Hayagrive > said ; Oh! Agastya, > Husband of Lopamudra, listen with concentration. I > shall tell you > why i did not instruct you in the thousands names. > I did not tell > you that because I thought it was a secret, and > for no other reason > as you have now asked me with devotion, I shall > impart that to you. > The teacher may impart to a student who is > possessed with devotion, > but shall never impart to one who has no devotion. > Never to a rougue > to a wicked man, nor to at any time to one who is > devoid of faity. > It shall only be imparted only to one who is > thoroughtly devoted to > the divine mother, to one who understands the > Vidyaraja. TO a > upasaka who is pure, you may impart the thousand > names. .etc..... > > Again lets look at this line : he who is anxious > of learning [ > knowledge ] becomes learned by chanting this > sahasranma. O muni, > there is no other hymn equal to this in merit > which confer both > worldly attainments and salvation at the same > time. > > Lets read this statement : Just as Sri Vidya is to > be kept secret, > so also O muni, this sahasranama, should be kept > concealed from the > eyes of the uninitiated. This holy hum ought not > to be promulgated > among those nature resembles that of beasts. If a > person so loses > his wits as to impart this to one who is not > initiated into Sri > Vidya, the Yoginis curse him and it is a source of > great loss to him. > > YES! Indeed you are right, this means that those > great gurus out > there like Amritananda natha, Ammachi, > Bhasurananda Natha and many > other gurus who themselves have encourage people > to recite the > lalitha sahasranama are curse by the gupta > yoginis. > > But again lets look at the last sentence : It is > by the command of > Lalitha that this holy hymns is declared to thee. > Therefore O pot- > born One! do thou chant this always with devotion. > > Who says this last sentence : the horse face one. > Who is this horse > face one. Is he not one of the great guru too? > What do we all > understand the term Guru? Are they not considered > DEVI manifested? > So you mean to say The Gupta Yogins would curse > DEVI? If all the > great gurus have declared that its safe for > unintiated to recite the > lalitha sahasranama, isnt that too the wishes of > DEVI herself? > > sangar narayanan statement remind me of an email I > received sometime > back. One of the members in malaysia send an > article from a local > Malay newpaper, in it a translation of the manu > law in Malay. Now we > all know Manu law eh. What's the article about : > how one should > treat a widow, a wife... a woman. And then say : > you see this is how > hindu treat their woman. The muslims / syariah law > are more humane > and just. That is what these people are doing > here, they take a law > that is outdate and not applicable anymore and > publish it to justify > their ideas and to show how cruel the hindus are. > Maybe you are > right sangar narayana, Hindu are indeed cruel. > > Now in ancient times the law is very straight > forward : if you kill > another, u get killed. No questions abt it. You do > not wait for > years to have your sentence carried out. You > commit the crime today, > one week time you get hang or shot. Simple and > easy eh. But then > comes a beautiful realise soul who said, now wait! > lets access the > situation. This realized souls knows that there is > more than just > kiling and being killed. Why one kill in the first > place? > > What have happen now? We have the court of law. We > have the judge, > we have lawyers and suddenly everything become > very complex. > Suddenly such terms as premeditated murder, or > provoke murder or > planned murder becomes a subject. Murders are now > considered > innocent unless proven guilty. The law have become > more humane and > just. Why? because of these group of realized soul > who know that the > law need to change according to time. People are > more complex and > different. The whole environment have change > altogether. How can you > try to apply an ancient law to the modern > environment. > > Do tell me how can a mother turn her back on her > child when she > hears the cries of her child wanting to hear/sing > her most important > thousand names. Didnt the great horse face one > said : "therefore to > gain the divine mother's favour one should repeat > this continously" > and "The devotees od Lalitha should always repeat > this; and in no > ther way can DEVI be pleased, even for crores of > years to come." > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta. http://new.mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 , "NMadasamy" <nmadasamy wrote: > > , sangar narayanan > <mackro1932@> wrote: When people believe and do lalitha > sahasranama, it is unfortunate they do not believe the phala stuthi, > which clearly says that those chanting lalitha sahasranama without > panchadasi mantra upadesa are cursed by the gupta yoginis. Why not > follow the dictum properly instead of violating the rules laid down, > if there is belief. > > > >If that where true , I doubt Ammachi and Sri Karunamayi would make the stotra so available to the public to learn , joanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 , "Dennis" <mprgrandmaster wrote: > > Dear all, > About this holy hymn Lalita Sasranama, in my understanding it is true that all the Divine Gurus can know whether their disciples should or should not chant the 1.000 Names of Shri Lalita Devi but again who is the true guru and who is the false?How can one decide? > Regards, > Dennis Yet there are many true once , cross the boundries of logic truth shall be revealed ! , joanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 As with all mantras , stotras ect.... if the intention is pure , from heart I believe there should be no harm ( however there are certain aspects which under the guidance of Guru bring much more success on once spiritual path ) joanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 It's easy enough to email Sri Amritananda at Devipuram. - "Parishant" <paribus81 > <> Tuesday, December 12, 2006 12:31 AM Re: Mantras > Namaste > > It's true that I've been doing, Lalita Sahasramanam at first but stop > because i've heard without the blessing of a Guru, it will be not > good, same apply recently for Khadgamala and Sri Vidya Nyasa > > Now finally I dnt knw what to do... but im willing to learn, Im not > discouraged but ready to be guided properly step by step... > > The ONLY problem that i have, is here in Mauritius, I don't have any > guru!!! Where I will find a Guru? > > But I do believe that Devi Maa will surely show me a way because I > just want to serve her with all my devotion and love, and always be > with her! > > Thanks > Parishant > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 As Sri Karunamayi has said, it is the "tradition minded people" who keep putting forth all of these barriers about some of these various Sri Vidya practices in question. Quote: "Sri Vidya is an open highway for all". JANARDANA DASA joannapollner <joannapollner > wrote: , "NMadasamy" <nmadasamy wrote: > > , sangar narayanan > <mackro1932@> wrote: When people believe and do lalitha > sahasranama, it is unfortunate they do not believe the phala stuthi, > which clearly says that those chanting lalitha sahasranama without > panchadasi mantra upadesa are cursed by the gupta yoginis. Why not > follow the dictum properly instead of violating the rules laid down, > if there is belief. > > > >If that where true , I doubt Ammachi and Sri Karunamayi would make the stotra so available to the public to learn , joanna Access over 1 million songs - Music Unlimited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 You can > have one wife with her permission. ----How are you supposed to find her without trying many? I guess that's the hell, where finding the right one is heaven? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 make Devi into your Guru..........she will guide you on how to do this.......... Parishant <paribus81 > wrote: Namaste It's true that I've been doing, Lalita Sahasramanam at first but stop because i've heard without the blessing of a Guru, it will be not good, same apply recently for Khadgamala and Sri Vidya Nyasa Now finally I dnt knw what to do... but im willing to learn, Im not discouraged but ready to be guided properly step by step... The ONLY problem that i have, is here in Mauritius, I don't have any guru!!! Where I will find a Guru? But I do believe that Devi Maa will surely show me a way because I just want to serve her with all my devotion and love, and always be with her! Thanks Parishant Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Only a guru who has reached "that" state can alone impart and deliver the divine energy to the disciple. No doubt Srividhya is an open text but that does not mean everyone gets 'that" from the competent guru. S.SHANGARANARAYANAN Janardana Dasa <lightdweller > Tuesday, December 12, 2006 9:20:31 PM Re: Re: Mantras As Sri Karunamayi has said, it is the "tradition minded people" who keep putting forth all of these barriers about some of these various Sri Vidya practices in question. Quote: "Sri Vidya is an open highway for all". JANARDANA DASA joannapollner <joannapollner@ > wrote: , "NMadasamy" <nmadasamy@. ..> wrote: > > , sangar narayanan > <mackro1932@ > wrote: When people believe and do lalitha > sahasranama, it is unfortunate they do not believe the phala stuthi, > which clearly says that those chanting lalitha sahasranama without > panchadasi mantra upadesa are cursed by the gupta yoginis. Why not > follow the dictum properly instead of violating the rules laid down, > if there is belief. > > > >If that where true , I doubt Ammachi and Sri Karunamayi would make the stotra so available to the public to learn , joanna ------------ --------- --------- --- Access over 1 million songs - Music Unlimited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Ok, here is a reference from FAQ regarding Guru: http://shaktisadhana.50megs.com/Newhomepage/Frames/messageboard/Guru/D oyouguru.html Quote_____(from Respected Kochu) Sankara Menon I agree absolutely with the view that it is difficult to get a "good" Guru. I do not think it is a difficulty that we are facing only in this time and age. The very references by Lakshmidhara and the author of SriVidyaarnnava specifically offered themselves as Gurus for all time to come. They did not do that because of their ego. They did it specifically because they knew how difficult it is to get a "good" Guru. It is further said that one must wait patiently till the guru comes to you. It is not you selecting the Guru but Guru selecting you. It is my personal view and that of my Guru (who unfortunately is no more) that upto Panchadashi evenwritten word can be the Guru. When it comes to shodashi and sri Chakra puja you do need a competent teacher. End Quote________________ Hope this helps. G , Radhakrishnan J <jayaarshree wrote: > > > --- Parishant <paribus81 wrote: > > Is it true that to do Khagamala or Sri vidya nyasas > > or Lalita > > sahasramanam or any mantra which have beej in it, we > > should get > > initiated by a Guru?? Or Else it will have side > > effects on us!!! > > Dear Parishant > Khadgamala stotram can be freely recited by anyone. > Please refer to the FAQ on this given in the SS site > which is quite succint. > > As for Lalita Sahasranamam, the traditional view was > that one should learn it from a Guru. This was > probably because most of us followed oral tradition. > If you are able to learn to recite Lalita Sahasranamam > on your own, fine... go ahead. I can assure you there > will be no side effects (at least the harmful kind). > > As for mantras, one naturally has to be more careful > for swara and pronunciation of mantras are of > paramount importance. It is next to impossible to get > it right unless one is taught and instructed by an > accomplished master. Better leave the mantras alone. > When you have Lalita Sahasranamam and Khadgamala, why > worry about mantras! > > Sri Vidya is serious business. No experimentation > allowed. One sure does require proper initiation. > > I do hope I have been of some help. > > There are other very, very learned people in the group > who certainly can help you. > > JR > > Hope to get some clarifications on that!! > > > > Thanks > > Parishant > > > > > > > > > ____________________ ______________ > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta. > http://new.mail. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 No Doubt. JANARDANA DASA sangar narayanan <mackro1932 > wrote: Only a guru who has reached "that" state can alone impart and deliver the divine energy to the disciple. No doubt Srividhya is an open text but that does not mean everyone gets 'that" from the competent guru. S.SHANGARANARAYANAN Janardana Dasa <lightdweller > Tuesday, December 12, 2006 9:20:31 PM Re: Re: Mantras As Sri Karunamayi has said, it is the "tradition minded people" who keep putting forth all of these barriers about some of these various Sri Vidya practices in question. Quote: "Sri Vidya is an open highway for all". JANARDANA DASA joannapollner <joannapollner@ > wrote: , "NMadasamy" <nmadasamy@. ..> wrote: > > , sangar narayanan > <mackro1932@ > wrote: When people believe and do lalitha > sahasranama, it is unfortunate they do not believe the phala stuthi, > which clearly says that those chanting lalitha sahasranama without > panchadasi mantra upadesa are cursed by the gupta yoginis. Why not > follow the dictum properly instead of violating the rules laid down, > if there is belief. > > > >If that where true , I doubt Ammachi and Sri Karunamayi would make the stotra so available to the public to learn , joanna ------------ --------- --------- --- Access over 1 million songs - Music Unlimited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 "It's easy enough to email Sri Amritananda at Devipuram." This is the best suggestion. If you need help and want to do Shri Vidya, then give a ring to Shri Amritananda, he is one of the foremost practitioners of Shri Vidya who has done of lot of work in its propagation. I am sure he will be of substantial help to you in providing you with relevant upadesha and diksha. llundrub <llundrub (AT) cox (DOT) net> Wednesday, 13 December, 2006 2:18:01 AM Re: Re: Mantras It's easy enough to email Sri Amritananda at Devipuram. - "Parishant" <paribus81 > <> Tuesday, December 12, 2006 12:31 AM Re: Mantras > Namaste > > It's true that I've been doing, Lalita Sahasramanam at first but stop > because i've heard without the blessing of a Guru, it will be not > good, same apply recently for Khadgamala and Sri Vidya Nyasa > > Now finally I dnt knw what to do... but im willing to learn, Im not > discouraged but ready to be guided properly step by step... > > The ONLY problem that i have, is here in Mauritius, I don't have any > guru!!! Where I will find a Guru? > > But I do believe that Devi Maa will surely show me a way because I > just want to serve her with all my devotion and love, and always be > with her! > > Thanks > Parishant > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Yes.The moon lights alike, both palaces and huts. A mother's capacity for love is infinite. It is not limited that she has to chose.Of course, one has to pray in some form or other. We have a saying "you have to ask even your own mother if you want to be fed". Even babies know this and so they cry when they are hungry Max Dashu <maxdashu (AT) lmi (DOT) net> wrote: >When people believe and do lalitha sahasranama, it is unfortunate >they do not believe the phala stuthi, which clearly says that those >chanting lalitha sahasranama without panchadasi mantra upadesa are >cursed by the gupta yoginis. Cursed?! why ever would divine Mother allow such a thing for her children who chant to her with devotion. Never. What to say of Mata Amritanandamayi's counsel that devotees chant this sahasranama, and without pancadasi initiation? Doesn't the sun shine its light on all, and they can make of it what they are able? How could the Mother behave like a proud miser who keeps his treasure tightly clutched in his grip, and all the while thinking how special he is. Max Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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