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Namaste Advaitins,

 

I have been the member of this group for quite sometimes and enjoyed

reading commentaries and discussion presented in the group. I have

gained some knowledge through this medium, but still have an

unsettling mind as I dont know where to start from. I like to ask the

learned members of this group to guide me on books, scriptures,

materials and discussion that I can refer to; for a novice to study

Advaita.

 

It is a great honour to me, if I can get the list starting from

novice to expert, viz. ABC of Advaita to Advanced Advaitic concepts.

 

Om Nirguna Sai Brahmane Namaha,

Gopinath Panduranga

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advaitin, "Gopinath Panduranga"

<brahmaprajna wrote:

>

> Namaste Advaitins,

>

> I have been the member of this group for quite sometimes and

enjoyed

> reading commentaries and discussion presented in the group. I have

> gained some knowledge through this medium, but still have an

> unsettling mind as I dont know where to start from. I like to ask

the

> learned members of this group to guide me on books, scriptures,

> materials and discussion that I can refer to; for a novice to

study

> Advaita.

>

> It is a great honour to me, if I can get the list starting from

> novice to expert, viz. ABC of Advaita to Advanced Advaitic

concepts.

>

> Om Nirguna Sai Brahmane Namaha,

> Gopinath Panduranga

>

 

Namaste Gopinathji,

 

 

Please refer to Message #26754 and the accompanying

messages in the same thread.

 

Also all articles at: http://www.advaitin.net/ would be helpful.

 

 

Regards,

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Please watch this space for an announcement later this month regarding next

year's initiative in precisely this area!

 

<<I have been the member of this group for quite sometimes and enjoyed

reading commentaries and discussion presented in the group. I have

gained some knowledge through this medium, but still have an

unsettling mind as I dont know where to start from. I like to ask the

learned members of this group to guide me on books, scriptures,

materials and discussion that I can refer to; for a novice to study

Advaita.

 

It is a great honour to me, if I can get the list starting from

novice to expert, viz. ABC of Advaita to Advanced Advaitic concepts.

 

Om Nirguna Sai Brahmane Namaha,

Gopinath Panduranga>>

 

Best wishes,

 

Dennis

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Dear Sri Gopinath-Ji,

 

The study of Advaita is meant to take us beyond concepts and recognize

our essential nature directly with immediacy and without hindrance. The

term "Advanced Advaitic Concepts" does not refer to Advaitic knowledge

but connotes intellectual study. One interested in actual Advaitic

knowledge or Self-Realization would not necessarily be attracted to

that. On the other hand, such a study may be beneficial for some, per

their inclinations and destiny.

 

Yesterday, I was trying my hand at writing an "Enlightenment Haiku".

Haiku is a Japanese term for a three line poem which meets certain

requirements of the number of words in each line. It is hard to write a

Haiku in English using Japanese rules. So I improvised.

 

 

Breath stolen

Heart, stopping to hear

Again, the same intimacy.

 

 

Love to all

Harsha

 

 

 

Gopinath Panduranga wrote:

> Namaste Advaitins,

>

> It is a great honour to me, if I can get the list starting from

> novice to expert, viz. ABC of Advaita to Advanced Advaitic concepts.

>

> Om Nirguna Sai Brahmane Namaha,

> Gopinath Panduranga

>

>

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H.N.Sreenivasa Murthy

Pranams to all.

Dear Sri Gopinath Panduranga,

Avadhuta Gita , in its very beginning sloka states:

ISvarAnugrahAddEva puMsAm adwaithavAsanA ||

It means " By the divine grace alone the desire to realize Adwaithic Truth sprouts up in the hearts of human beings". You are really blessed by The Divine.

As a beginner one has to get rid of certain basic misconceptions.

[A] Adwaitha is not a concept, because the teaching is essentially about oneself and is about 'me' i.e.yourself. You are not a concept .

Adwaita is not something to be studied. It is not about the accumulation of words and information from books. It is The LIVING TRUTH about yourself only. YOU ALONE HAS TO COGNIZE WITHIN YOURSELF BY YOURSELF.

[C] In this quest one who has realized what he is teaching ALONE can give you that wisdom and neither books nor scholars can give you this.

This is what my Guru taught me.

May The Self bless you with the Upanishadic understanding.

With warm and respectful regards,

Sreenivasa Murthy.

Gopinath Panduranga <brahmaprajna > wrote:

Namaste Advaitins,

I have been the member of this group for quite sometimes and enjoyed

reading commentaries and discussion presented in the group. I have

gained some knowledge through this medium, but still have an

unsettling mind as I dont know where to start from. I like to ask the

learned members of this group to guide me on books, scriptures,

materials and discussion that I can refer to; for a novice to study

Advaita.

It is a great honour to me, if I can get the list starting from

novice to expert, viz. ABC of Advaita to Advanced Advaitic concepts.

Om Nirguna Sai Brahmane Namaha,

Gopinath Panduranga

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Namaste Advaitins,

 

Thanks for the information. Since I am a novice, I might be wrong in

framing the request plain from the heart. The verbal explaination to the

request was merely composed at my view point (thats why I called Advaita a

concept). However I humbly accept the correction.

 

My interested on Advaita sprouted after listening to talks and the

discussion in the group. I assumed that to understand these teachings, there

should be a scholastic approach to study Advaita(I however accept that Sri

Murthyji pointed out that Advaita is all about me and knowing myself). But,

to know myself - I need some preliminary basic understanding of what I am

trying to explore, like terminologies, examples etc.

 

I am often wonderstruck, when I see the learned member of the group

refering to sacred scriptures and giving detailed explanation. I feel they

are the blessed one - as they have learned and experienced the oneness

through the grace of their Guru, or through some stringent self-study. I

thought, until I find my Guru, I will resort to self-study.

 

So, please guide me!!

 

 

Om Nirguna Sai Brahmane Namaha,

Gopinath Panduranga

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Dennis-ji :

 

Of all the responses given to Sri Gopinath-ji's inquiry on how a

novice should approach the philosophy of Advaita , i liked your

response the most . i know for a fact that you have been sharing

your knowledge of this great philosophy with beginners and advanced

students in your circle in U.K. as was obvious from your comments on

a vivekachudamani verse sometime ago !

 

When someone comes and asks us a genuine question on how to learn

the philosophy of Advaita , we should not scare him away by

saying 'Advaita ' is not a concept etc ..... As a wise man put it ,

even to 'cling to oneness is to miss it. '

 

Please , i would humbly request you and other learned members to

keep this in mind in 2007 and please share your knowledge of this

philosophy in a simple and easily understandable manner even to a

layman !

 

may i please share these powerful lines from Kena Upanishad ?

 

"If you think, 'I know it well', you know just a little the form of

brahman—that part of it which is you and that part of it which is

among the gods. I think you should investigate that unknown:"

 

"I do not think, 'I know it well', And I do not know, 'I don't know

it, Whoever of us knows it, knows it, And does not know, 'I don't

know it."'

 

"It is thought of by the one to whom it is unthought; The one by

whom it is thought of—he does not know, It is not understood by the

understanders; It is understood by those who do not understand."

 

So Dennisji - we will be looking forward to that sacred 'space' you

are talking about !

 

with warmest regards

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

advaitin, "Dennis Waite" <dwaite wrote:

>

> Please watch this space for an announcement later this month

regarding next

> year's initiative in precisely this area!

>

> <<I have been the member of this group for quite sometimes and

enjoyed

> reading commentaries and discussion presented in the group. I have

> gained some knowledge through this medium, but still have an

> unsettling mind as I dont know where to start from. I like to ask

the

> learned members of this group to guide me on books, scriptures,

> materials and discussion that I can refer to; for a novice to

study

> Advaita.

>

> It is a great honour to me, if I can get the list starting from

> novice to expert, viz. ABC of Advaita to Advanced Advaitic

concepts.

>

> Om Nirguna Sai Brahmane Namaha,

> Gopinath Panduranga>>

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Dennis

>

>

>

>

>

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I understand that Dennis has two new books coming out in 2007, although he is no doubt too modest to mention this.

 

-

dhyanasaraswati

advaitin

Monday, December 18, 2006 2:08 PM

Re:Advaita for Novice

 

 

Dennis-ji :

 

Of all the responses given to Sri Gopinath-ji's inquiry on how a

novice should approach the philosophy of Advaita , i liked your

response the most . i know for a fact that you have been sharing

your knowledge of this great philosophy with beginners and advanced

students in your circle in U.K. as was obvious from your comments on

a vivekachudamani verse sometime ago !

 

When someone comes and asks us a genuine question on how to learn

the philosophy of Advaita , we should not scare him away by

saying 'Advaita ' is not a concept etc ..... As a wise man put it ,

even to 'cling to oneness is to miss it. '

 

Please , i would humbly request you and other learned members to

keep this in mind in 2007 and please share your knowledge of this

philosophy in a simple and easily understandable manner even to a

layman !

 

may i please share these powerful lines from Kena Upanishad ?

 

"If you think, 'I know it well', you know just a little the form of

brahman-that part of it which is you and that part of it which is

among the gods. I think you should investigate that unknown:"

 

"I do not think, 'I know it well', And I do not know, 'I don't know

it, Whoever of us knows it, knows it, And does not know, 'I don't

know it."'

 

"It is thought of by the one to whom it is unthought; The one by

whom it is thought of-he does not know, It is not understood by the

understanders; It is understood by those who do not understand."

 

So Dennisji - we will be looking forward to that sacred 'space' you

are talking about !

 

with warmest regards

 

advaitin, "Dennis Waite" <dwaite wrote:

>

> Please watch this space for an announcement later this month

regarding next

> year's initiative in precisely this area!

>

> <<I have been the member of this group for quite sometimes and

enjoyed

> reading commentaries and discussion presented in the group. I have

> gained some knowledge through this medium, but still have an

> unsettling mind as I dont know where to start from. I like to ask

the

> learned members of this group to guide me on books, scriptures,

> materials and discussion that I can refer to; for a novice to

study

> Advaita.

>

> It is a great honour to me, if I can get the list starting from

> novice to expert, viz. ABC of Advaita to Advanced Advaitic

concepts.

>

> Om Nirguna Sai Brahmane Namaha,

> Gopinath Panduranga>>

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Dennis

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Gopinath-ji,

 

 

 

While agreeing with other comments already made, especially for Advaita to

grow out of our own 'Self-Inquiry', below are some of the works I found to

be particularly helpful (and still do) in my own reflective inquiry.

 

 

 

The first book I read on Advaita was "Self Knowledge (Atmabodha) of Sri

Sankaracarya" translated by Swami Nikhilananda. The first half of this book

is in the form of an introduction to terms and concepts in Advaita by Swami

Nikhilananda. This is an excellent introduction, in my view.

 

 

 

"Upadhesa Sahasri of Sri Sankaracarya", trans. Swami Jaganananda is a real

Gem.

 

 

 

"The Bhagavad Gita with commentary of Sri Sankaracarya" trans Alladhi

Mahadeva Sastry (or by Swami Gambirananda) covers just about every aspect of

Advaita and particularly helps us to discover it in everyday life.

 

 

 

"Intuition of Reality" by Swami Satchidanandendra Saraswati.

 

 

 

In my own journey, the most profound teachings in writing, came in the form

of:

 

 

 

"Forty Verses on Reality" (Ulladhu Narpadhu) by Sri Ramana Maharshi. This

can be found published as "Revelation" by Lakshmana Sarma.

 

 

 

These forty verses appear very simple while at the same time seem to express

and sum up the entire spirit and teaching of Advaita Vedanta. It amazes me

to keep coming back to them and each time realizing afresh just how much

more they convey when we are ready to receive.

 

 

 

Lakshmana Sarma also wrote a commentary on these verses which he later

published as: "Maha Yoga". This is a particularly valuable work as his

explanations and comments were under the guidance of Sri Ramana himself.

 

 

 

The above are but a few works, but trust it gives at least one student's

view as to what *might* be helpful.

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

Peter

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

_____

 

advaitin [advaitin] On Behalf

Of brahmaprajna

18 December 2006 04:29

advaitin

Re: Advaita for Novice

 

 

 

Namaste Advaitins,

 

Thanks for the information. Since I am a novice, I might be wrong in

framing the request plain from the heart. The verbal explaination to the

request was merely composed at my view point (thats why I called Advaita a

concept). However I humbly accept the correction.

 

My interested on Advaita sprouted after listening to talks and the

discussion in the group. I assumed that to understand these teachings, there

should be a scholastic approach to study Advaita(I however accept that Sri

Murthyji pointed out that Advaita is all about me and knowing myself). But,

to know myself - I need some preliminary basic understanding of what I am

trying to explore, like terminologies, examples etc.

 

I am often wonderstruck, when I see the learned member of the group

refering to sacred scriptures and giving detailed explanation. I feel they

are the blessed one - as they have learned and experienced the oneness

through the grace of their Guru, or through some stringent self-study. I

thought, until I find my Guru, I will resort to self-study.

 

So, please guide me!!

 

Om Nirguna Sai Brahmane Namaha,

Gopinath Panduranga

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" I thought, until I find my Guru, I will resort to self-study."

 

-------------

 

"D.: Is success not dependent on Guru's Grace?

M.: Yes, it is. Is not your practice itself due to such Grace? The fruits

are the result of the practice and follow it automatically. There is a

stanza in Kaivalya which says, "O Guru! You have been always with me

watching me through several reincarnations, and ordaining my course until I

was liberated." The Self manifests externally as Guru when occasion arises;

otherwise He is always within, doing the needful."

(Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi: Talk 425)

 

Peter

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advaitin, "Gopinath Panduranga"

<brahmaprajna wrote:

 

> Namaste Advaitins,

>

> I have been the member of this group for quite sometimes and enjoyed

> reading commentaries and discussion presented in the group. I have

> gained some knowledge through this medium, but still have an

> unsettling mind as I dont know where to start from. I like to ask the

> learned members of this group to guide me on books, scriptures,

> materials and discussion that I can refer to; for a novice to study

> Advaita.

>

> It is a great honour to me, if I can get the list starting from

> novice to expert, viz. ABC of Advaita to Advanced Advaitic concepts.

>

> Om Nirguna Sai Brahmane Namaha,

> Gopinath Panduranga

 

Namaste Gopinath-ji

 

The year 2077, according to our incoming Chief Moderator, is scheduled

to be devoted to advaita for the novice. In the meantime, you may have

a look at the following:

 

http://www.advaitin.net/advaitadialogue.pdf

 

which is a 1008-piece dialogue of one line each (with a few exceptions

) giving the novice a step-by-step exposure to advaita.

 

Alternatively you may look at

 

http://www.advaitin.net/AyyarAdvaitaVedanta.pdf

 

which is a presentation from scratch for beginners of almost all

aspects of advaita.

 

PraNAms to all advaitins

profvk

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Sri Gopinath Ji,

 

As a novice, I find Prof VK's translation of Mahaswamigal's Advaita

Vendanta Sadhana (which is also uploaded as PDF file in this group) an

excellent place to start.

 

Also, there is a book Titled "The Vedas" by Mahaswamigal Sri

Sankaracharya of Kanchi which gives the basic concepts very well.

 

I have posted a similar request a while back in the post # 31466

 

Please follow that thread and there are some good suggestions given by

the learned members of this group.

 

 

Thanks

 

Sudesh

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Namaste Advaitins,

 

Thanks a million for considering my request and responding so earnestly. I

will definitely take reference all the guidance given and looking forward

for Year 2007 as "Year of Advaita Learning"

 

 

om nirguna saibrahmane namaha,

gopinath panduranga

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advaitin, brahmaprajna <brahmaprajna wrote:

>

> Namaste Advaitins,

>

> Thanks a million for considering my request and responding so

earnestly. I

> will definitely take reference all the guidance given and looking

forward

> for Year 2007 as "Year of Advaita Learning"

>

>

> om nirguna saibrahmane namaha,

> gopinath panduranga

>

 

Namaste to all,

 

One thing which I appreciate so much about the

teachings of Advaita/Vedanta (and for which I

have a lot of gratitude) is that they 'begin at

the beginning.' That is they start where the student

is and take the student's mind step by step to the

direct realization of the truth.

 

It is the view of many in the beginning that I am

a separate body/mind/sense organs individual living

in an inert universe. God is in heaven (if existing

anywhere at all) and has little to do with me.

 

The shruti with infinite patience and compassion,

in the hands of a teacher who knows how to use

the words therein as a pramana, takes the mind

of the student step by step to see that none

of the above suppositions is true.

 

If at some point, after studying for some time, and

through Grace, we are able to understand the sayings

of some great masters, (mystics from traditions outside

Vedanta or who perhaps had no tradition but

yet knew the truth) then lucky indeed are we.

 

If on the other hand, we are not yet able to

comprehend what these masters say, then how

wonderful it is that Vedanta exits, that

teachers who know how to use Vedanta as a

pramana exist, that lengthy and precise explanations

exist.

 

Because the truth ultimately being 'way too simple'

as Swami Dayananda once said, and our minds and

interwoven ignorance being rather complicated,

we may need very precise and lengthy explanations

before ignorance is knocked off and we can directly

see the 'simple' truth that is being pointed out.

 

And the compassionate Mother Shruti (just

as a mother prepares the correct food for

each child's needs) is able to point

out with infinite logic and patience,

from more angles than one human mind can possibly

conceive of, how it is that I am Brahman, that I am

indeed That which I seek. What a wonder!

 

Om Namah,

Durga

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