Guest guest Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 hi all i am new to this tantra world i was supposed to get married this year nov to my child hood love but his father never approved of this relation. so with my parents consent we intended to get married.but all of a sudden my fiancee denied to marry and left me. i secretely got married to him 3 years ago in a temple which i know was too childish but now i am in the middle of nowhere.my entire family knows that we have been living in together and will marry soon. my fiancee used to tell me a lot of times that his father used to take him to tantriks and does offer bali etc but could not believe it . kindly help me. i am getting engulfed by severe depression and have no alternative left but to die. as he is the only thing i have dreamt of since childhood and for me life without him is impossible. regards Rashi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 - thanks yashwant it felt very supportive to have someone by my side so how do i contact gurudev in jodhpur. and what is this Baglamukhi Mahavidhya sadhna and how is it performed. i will do anything to get him back. for me he is my life. kindly enlighten Regards Rashi -- In , "catchmycharm" <catchmycharm wrote: > > hi all i am new to this tantra world > i was supposed to get married this year nov to my child hood love but > his father never approved of this relation. so with my parents consent > we intended to get married.but all of a sudden my fiancee denied to > marry and left me. > i secretely got married to him 3 years ago in a temple which i know was > too childish but now i am in the middle of nowhere.my entire family > knows that we have been living in together and will marry soon. my > fiancee used to tell me a lot of times that his father used to take him > to tantriks and does offer bali etc but could not believe it . > > kindly help me. i am getting engulfed by severe depression and have no > alternative left but to die. as he is the only thing i have dreamt of > since childhood and for me life without him is impossible. > > > regards > > Rashi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram How old are you? what does the other person is doing as profession? Were your parents aware of you secret marriage? Did they press you to make your marriage public at that time? What help are you getting from them? What are you doing from your side for saving yourself from this problem part from looking help from tantra? When you have made your problem public then you need to tell all this and few more things, then only we can suggest something. Please keep in mind that in Tantra, Mantra & Yantra also it is only you who has to make all effort and perform sadhna. No one else will do it for you. Tantrik who was used by the father of the boy did it for money, that kind of acts are not done by the members of this discussion group. Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram , "catchmycharm" <catchmycharm wrote: > > hi all i am new to this tantra world > i was supposed to get married this year nov to my child hood love but > his father never approved of this relation. so with my parents consent > we intended to get married.but all of a sudden my fiancee denied to > marry and left me. > i secretely got married to him 3 years ago in a temple which i know was > too childish but now i am in the middle of nowhere.my entire family > knows that we have been living in together and will marry soon. my > fiancee used to tell me a lot of times that his father used to take him > to tantriks and does offer bali etc but could not believe it . > > kindly help me. i am getting engulfed by severe depression and have no > alternative left but to die. as he is the only thing i have dreamt of > since childhood and for me life without him is impossible. > > > regards > > Rashi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 I am 26 and Deepak is a flight stewart my parents still do not know about this secret marriage.i am not getting any help from them as they have abandoned me because deepak was not trying to takea stand by convincing his dad and i was not ready to leave him so they abandoned me.i dontget no help from them its just a couple of my friends who know about my secret marriage and the problems i m going through.i am trying to take him into confidence and make him understand that this all is not all that bad and we should not give upon each other at this time like this but nothing seems to work.i am ready to do everything and any kind of difficult sadhna to get him back and lead a peaceful normal life...... i may not be socially married but as a woman i am mentally and emotionally married and cannot think of anything else at the moment... for me its just him good bad or evil i am prepaired for it but their is no alternative.... thanks Regards Rashi sharva_ajay <sharva_ajay (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram How old are you? what does the other person is doing as profession? Were your parents aware of you secret marriage? Did they press you to make your marriage public at that time? What help are you getting from them? What are you doing from your side for saving yourself from this problem part from looking help from tantra? When you have made your problem public then you need to tell all this and few more things, then only we can suggest something. Please keep in mind that in Tantra, Mantra & Yantra also it is only you who has to make all effort and perform sadhna. No one else will do it for you. Tantrik who was used by the father of the boy did it for money, that kind of acts are not done by the members of this discussion group. Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram , "catchmycharm" <catchmycharm wrote: > > hi all i am new to this tantra world > i was supposed to get married this year nov to my child hood love but > his father never approved of this relation. so with my parents consent > we intended to get married.but all of a sudden my fiancee denied to > marry and left me. > i secretely got married to him 3 years ago in a temple which i know was > too childish but now i am in the middle of nowhere.my entire family > knows that we have been living in together and will marry soon. my > fiancee used to tell me a lot of times that his father used to take him > to tantriks and does offer bali etc but could not believe it . > > kindly help me. i am getting engulfed by severe depression and have no > alternative left but to die. as he is the only thing i have dreamt of > since childhood and for me life without him is impossible. > > > regards > > Rashi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 sasriyakal sadhak bhais tussi worry na karo rashmi puttar.guru sab samasya ka hal hega.you can do sadhana of matangi or bhagwan shiv. jay gurudev makkhan singh , princess charming <catchmycharm wrote: > > I am 26 and Deepak is a flight stewart my parents still do not know about this secret marriage.i am not getting any help from them as they have abandoned me because deepak was not trying to takea stand by convincing his dad and i was not ready to leave him so they abandoned me.i dontget no help from them its just a couple of my friends who know about my secret marriage and the problems i m going through.i am trying to take him into confidence and make him understand that this all is not all that bad and we should not give upon each other at this time like this but nothing seems to work.i am ready to do everything and any kind of difficult sadhna to get him back and lead a peaceful normal life...... > i may not be socially married but as a woman i am mentally and emotionally married and cannot think of anything else at the moment... for me its just him good bad or evil i am prepaired for it but their is no alternative.... > > > thanks > > Regards > Rashi > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram You have put yourself in very difficult situation. Coming out of this is looking an uphill task. In this turmoil you should first think about yourself then only you will be in a position to do any thing. We can not say in which direction events will turn,we can only say that things are not going to be easy. The side opposing to you will keep on using tantra prayogs against you and will do everything to keep the desired person disenchanted from you. In the company of his family that person does not need even tantra prayog to keep himself away from you, their family members will brainwash him on their own. How things can work against you , you have already expereinced. Any effort to turn the cicumstances will again cause severe opposition in a similar manner or even more serious way. Our opinion is centred around you. We know that you are thinking about getting your lover back, but we will give suggestion as per our opinion only. All sadhnas need a Guru to accomplish them, therefore Guru Diksha is necessary. You are in such a disturbed state of mind , how you will be able to concentrate on mantra japa? we have seen sadhaks who have taken Gurudiksha and they loose confidence in the time of diffculty. They have more fear about the opposing tantra attack than faith and confidence on their own sadhna. They end up thinking about only the problem amd loosing track of sadhna or mantra japa. Their thinking is that after offering money for diksha their duty is over. Therefore Guru mantra in a proper manner using necessary sadhna articles is essential after taking Guru diksha.You should not hesitate about starting this if you want anykind of benifit from sadhnas. You should take one special diksha specifically for your desired goal. This specific diksha will decided, if They decide to give any, by Gurudev when you put your desire and problem before them. You will have to meet them persoanlly. This can not done through e-mail. You will have to do the mantra japa of that particular diksha which you receive from Gurudev for specified number of days and upto specified count. Along with this you will have to keep on doing Guru mantra japa everyday as much as you can. Therefore if you are really keen to take help of tantra sadhna, then do not wait any more and reach Gurudham Delhi on 27th December. Gurudev will be available there on 27th Dec to 29th December. Suggesting you any sadhna on personal experience may not always prove useful in this time of emergency, because only Guru can judge the real cause of problem. Prepare yourself for doing sadhna. Keep in mind that you are emotionally distressed at this time. Therefore do not think that you are paying diksha money as fees for getting your job done. This money you pay is your devotion and gratitude towards the Guru from who you are seeking knowledge. During this diffcult situation these words sound like preaching, but there is no other way. We may be in serious trouble but the basic fact is that everything is due to our own karma only, karma only manifest themselves as bad stars in birthchart and in all other good and bad ways. A person in deep pain does not like to hear these words because he/she needs help to come out of the trouble he/she is facing. Our first duty is to suggest the way out and we have done that. Our intention is not to be sarcastic on your situation but to make you aware of what you are going to do if you choose the path of sadhna. Please do not ask for any surities or guarantees before starting sadhna, do it with your own conviction and faith. All of us want results and that is the only reason we all do sadhna but we are also aware of what it takes to get results. We have told you few things and they are enough for you to make beginning if you wish to do so. we have made our suggestion considering both situations. First if you loose your lover and second if you are able to win him over again. It will not be good for you to be in a suspended state without any direction. If you win him over then also you need to do sadhna reguarly because effect of tantra does not wane quickly and the opposing side will renew tantra prayogs against you. It is easy to destroy someone's life but it is very difficult to make it better. Tantriks who work only for money make use of this destructive philosophy. On the other hand doing sadhna done under the guidance of Guru focuses on removing negative karma and negative personality traits to bring about positive changes in the life of sadhak. That is the main difference. A sadhak accumulates postive energy and makes himself a person capable of protecting himself and defeating enemies. If you loose him then also you need the power of sadhna to keep yourself standing in the struggle of life. On your own you will not be able to take this blow. You should not ruin your life in that event. Guru diksha for whole life, not matter what are the circumstances a disciple should never ever dissociate himself from Guru or disobey his instructions. Please keep this in mind no matter what decision you take or circumstances you face. Therefore your first priority for you should be yourself only. Other things come later. The reason of telling all this is that you might be tempted of using the services of some tantrik who will do the job for you in return of money. What you will gain or loose there has been made clear before you. We leave the decision upto you. The address of Delhi Gurudham is given on www.siddhashram.org and time is running out very quickly. Please do not ask about getting anything done without going to Delhi or Jodhpur. You may have problem going there. That you have to tackle. Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram , princess charming <catchmycharm wrote: > > I am 26 and Deepak is a flight stewart my parents still do not know about this secret marriage.i am not getting any help from them as they have abandoned me because deepak was not trying to takea stand by convincing his dad and i was not ready to leave him so they abandoned me.i dontget no help from them its just a couple of my friends who know about my secret marriage and the problems i m going through.i am trying to take him into confidence and make him understand that this all is not all that bad and we should not give upon each other at this time like this but nothing seems to work.i am ready to do everything and any kind of difficult sadhna to get him back and lead a peaceful normal life...... > i may not be socially married but as a woman i am mentally and emotionally married and cannot think of anything else at the moment... for me its just him good bad or evil i am prepaired for it but their is no alternative.... > > > thanks > > Regards > Rashi > > > sharva_ajay <sharva_ajay wrote: > Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram > > How old are you? what does the other person is doing as profession? > > Were your parents aware of you secret marriage? Did they press you to > > make your marriage public at that time? What help are you getting > from them? > > What are you doing from your side for saving yourself from this > problem part from looking help from tantra? > > When you have made your problem public then you need to tell all > this and few more things, then only we can suggest something. > > Please keep in mind that in Tantra, Mantra & Yantra also it is only > you who has to make all effort and perform sadhna. No one else will > do it for you. Tantrik who was used by the father of the boy did it > for money, that kind of acts are not done by the members of this > discussion group. > > Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram > > , "catchmycharm" <catchmycharm@> > wrote: > > > > hi all i am new to this tantra world > > i was supposed to get married this year nov to my child hood love > but > > his father never approved of this relation. so with my parents > consent > > we intended to get married.but all of a sudden my fiancee denied > to > > marry and left me. > > i secretely got married to him 3 years ago in a temple which i > know was > > too childish but now i am in the middle of nowhere.my entire > family > > knows that we have been living in together and will marry soon. my > > fiancee used to tell me a lot of times that his father used to > take him > > to tantriks and does offer bali etc but could not believe it . > > > > kindly help me. i am getting engulfed by severe depression and > have no > > alternative left but to die. as he is the only thing i have dreamt > of > > since childhood and for me life without him is impossible. > > > > > > regards > > > > Rashi > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 thanks a lot blessed be you sharva_ajay <sharva_ajay (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram You have put yourself in very difficult situation. Coming out of this is looking an uphill task. In this turmoil you should first think about yourself then only you will be in a position to do any thing. We can not say in which direction events will turn,we can only say that things are not going to be easy. The side opposing to you will keep on using tantra prayogs against you and will do everything to keep the desired person disenchanted from you. In the company of his family that person does not need even tantra prayog to keep himself away from you, their family members will brainwash him on their own. How things can work against you , you have already expereinced. Any effort to turn the cicumstances will again cause severe opposition in a similar manner or even more serious way. Our opinion is centred around you. We know that you are thinking about getting your lover back, but we will give suggestion as per our opinion only. All sadhnas need a Guru to accomplish them, therefore Guru Diksha is necessary. You are in such a disturbed state of mind , how you will be able to concentrate on mantra japa? we have seen sadhaks who have taken Gurudiksha and they loose confidence in the time of diffculty. They have more fear about the opposing tantra attack than faith and confidence on their own sadhna. They end up thinking about only the problem amd loosing track of sadhna or mantra japa. Their thinking is that after offering money for diksha their duty is over. Therefore Guru mantra in a proper manner using necessary sadhna articles is essential after taking Guru diksha.You should not hesitate about starting this if you want anykind of benifit from sadhnas. You should take one special diksha specifically for your desired goal. This specific diksha will decided, if They decide to give any, by Gurudev when you put your desire and problem before them. You will have to meet them persoanlly. This can not done through e-mail. You will have to do the mantra japa of that particular diksha which you receive from Gurudev for specified number of days and upto specified count. Along with this you will have to keep on doing Guru mantra japa everyday as much as you can. Therefore if you are really keen to take help of tantra sadhna, then do not wait any more and reach Gurudham Delhi on 27th December. Gurudev will be available there on 27th Dec to 29th December. Suggesting you any sadhna on personal experience may not always prove useful in this time of emergency, because only Guru can judge the real cause of problem. Prepare yourself for doing sadhna. Keep in mind that you are emotionally distressed at this time. Therefore do not think that you are paying diksha money as fees for getting your job done. This money you pay is your devotion and gratitude towards the Guru from who you are seeking knowledge. During this diffcult situation these words sound like preaching, but there is no other way. We may be in serious trouble but the basic fact is that everything is due to our own karma only, karma only manifest themselves as bad stars in birthchart and in all other good and bad ways. A person in deep pain does not like to hear these words because he/she needs help to come out of the trouble he/she is facing. Our first duty is to suggest the way out and we have done that. Our intention is not to be sarcastic on your situation but to make you aware of what you are going to do if you choose the path of sadhna. Please do not ask for any surities or guarantees before starting sadhna, do it with your own conviction and faith. All of us want results and that is the only reason we all do sadhna but we are also aware of what it takes to get results. We have told you few things and they are enough for you to make beginning if you wish to do so. we have made our suggestion considering both situations. First if you loose your lover and second if you are able to win him over again. It will not be good for you to be in a suspended state without any direction. If you win him over then also you need to do sadhna reguarly because effect of tantra does not wane quickly and the opposing side will renew tantra prayogs against you. It is easy to destroy someone's life but it is very difficult to make it better. Tantriks who work only for money make use of this destructive philosophy. On the other hand doing sadhna done under the guidance of Guru focuses on removing negative karma and negative personality traits to bring about positive changes in the life of sadhak. That is the main difference. A sadhak accumulates postive energy and makes himself a person capable of protecting himself and defeating enemies. If you loose him then also you need the power of sadhna to keep yourself standing in the struggle of life. On your own you will not be able to take this blow. You should not ruin your life in that event. Guru diksha for whole life, not matter what are the circumstances a disciple should never ever dissociate himself from Guru or disobey his instructions. Please keep this in mind no matter what decision you take or circumstances you face. Therefore your first priority for you should be yourself only. Other things come later. The reason of telling all this is that you might be tempted of using the services of some tantrik who will do the job for you in return of money. What you will gain or loose there has been made clear before you. We leave the decision upto you. The address of Delhi Gurudham is given on www.siddhashram.org and time is running out very quickly. Please do not ask about getting anything done without going to Delhi or Jodhpur. You may have problem going there. That you have to tackle. Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram , princess charming <catchmycharm wrote: > > I am 26 and Deepak is a flight stewart my parents still do not know about this secret marriage.i am not getting any help from them as they have abandoned me because deepak was not trying to takea stand by convincing his dad and i was not ready to leave him so they abandoned me.i dontget no help from them its just a couple of my friends who know about my secret marriage and the problems i m going through.i am trying to take him into confidence and make him understand that this all is not all that bad and we should not give upon each other at this time like this but nothing seems to work.i am ready to do everything and any kind of difficult sadhna to get him back and lead a peaceful normal life...... > i may not be socially married but as a woman i am mentally and emotionally married and cannot think of anything else at the moment... for me its just him good bad or evil i am prepaired for it but their is no alternative.... > > > thanks > > Regards > Rashi > > > sharva_ajay <sharva_ajay wrote: > Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram > > How old are you? what does the other person is doing as profession? > > Were your parents aware of you secret marriage? Did they press you to > > make your marriage public at that time? What help are you getting > from them? > > What are you doing from your side for saving yourself from this > problem part from looking help from tantra? > > When you have made your problem public then you need to tell all > this and few more things, then only we can suggest something. > > Please keep in mind that in Tantra, Mantra & Yantra also it is only > you who has to make all effort and perform sadhna. No one else will > do it for you. Tantrik who was used by the father of the boy did it > for money, that kind of acts are not done by the members of this > discussion group. > > Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram > > , "catchmycharm" <catchmycharm@> > wrote: > > > > hi all i am new to this tantra world > > i was supposed to get married this year nov to my child hood love > but > > his father never approved of this relation. so with my parents > consent > > we intended to get married.but all of a sudden my fiancee denied > to > > marry and left me. > > i secretely got married to him 3 years ago in a temple which i > know was > > too childish but now i am in the middle of nowhere.my entire > family > > knows that we have been living in together and will marry soon. my > > fiancee used to tell me a lot of times that his father used to > take him > > to tantriks and does offer bali etc but could not believe it . > > > > kindly help me. i am getting engulfed by severe depression and > have no > > alternative left but to die. as he is the only thing i have dreamt > of > > since childhood and for me life without him is impossible. > > > > > > regards > > > > Rashi > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 Rashi, Ajay has answered your query well. Think about what has been suggested and do accordingly. Sometimes it might be good to just walk away from a particular relationship rather than wasting entire life in trying to fix it. Everyone makes mistakes but see that you don't make much bigger mistakes in trying to correct that. As ajay has suggested take Gurudev's advice and pray to him to show you the right path. Regards, Anurag On 12/20/06, supersanyasi <supersanyasi > wrote: > > sasriyakal sadhak bhais > > tussi worry na karo rashmi puttar.guru sab samasya ka hal hega.you can > do sadhana of matangi or bhagwan shiv. > > jay gurudev > makkhan singh > > <%40>, princess > charming <catchmycharm > wrote: > > > > I am 26 and Deepak is a flight stewart my parents still do not know > about this secret marriage.i am not getting any help from them as they > have abandoned me because deepak was not trying to takea stand by > convincing his dad and i was not ready to leave him so they abandoned > me.i dontget no help from them its just a couple of my friends who > know about my secret marriage and the problems i m going through.i am > trying to take him into confidence and make him understand that this > all is not all that bad and we should not give upon each other at this > time like this but nothing seems to work.i am ready to do everything > and any kind of difficult sadhna to get him back and lead a peaceful > normal life...... > > i may not be socially married but as a woman i am mentally and > emotionally married and cannot think of anything else at the moment... > for me its just him good bad or evil i am prepaired for it but their > is no alternative.... > > > > > > thanks > > > > Regards > > Rashi > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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