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Om Om Everyone. I simply want to ask everyone,what is the

significance of this creation, why it was menifested? Had it not been

better for the almighty God to rest in peace and let the individual

souls also rest in peace. I see despite so many beautiful things in

this world, a lot of misery is there. First the God alowed us to be

there in the world and then ask us to merge with him. Why is it like

that? Please clarify.

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I think nobody could answer this question ecxept a God realised One.

Some replies could be as follows - an attempt

1. Thereis no creation at all - thinik it is called ajata vadam--one school

2. What all you see as creation is 'midhya' not real as in the case of a

dream--another school. some say it is not real because it is ever changing

3. Why bother about others -find out why you are not at peace? what prevants

you from being at peace-some say

4. If it is accepted as God's creation- it must be perfect-though it appears

to you otherwise.This is because we do not have full knowledge. When we know

whatever that should beknown then only we could understand. Elders say that

knowledge comes with Realization only-

5. Elders say- you are already Reaized- only thing is to remove the

ignorance of identification with the body to remain realized

 

What all I said above is only from a state of bookish knowledge. Pardon me

from venturing to answer your query

 

Ramana Sarma

 

On 12/21/06, Dhananjaya Agrawal <dhananjayaagrawal > wrote:

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> Om Om Everyone. I simply want to ask everyone,what is the

> significance of this creation, why it was menifested? Had it not been

> better for the almighty God to rest in peace and let the individual

> souls also rest in peace. I see despite so many beautiful things in

> this world, a lot of misery is there. First the God alowed us to be

> there in the world and then ask us to merge with him. Why is it like

> that? Please clarify.

>

>

>

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Pranams Shri Agrawal-ji

 

The answers to "why?" lies in the "trap of causality".

 

The Lord cannot be infinite and still create

something. that something will be other than Him and

thus be a limiting adjunct to Him.

Thus this creation is a creationless creation.

It is beginingless in the sense that time (and hence

space) itself is a product of it.

 

Our minds and intellects being products of and very

much entrenched in this time-space brahmanda, are

forced to think in a cause-effect relationship.

I see a pot-it must have a material as well as a

efficient cause - because the pot as a entity stands

separate from the efficient cause that created it.

In the case of ishwara and jagat there is

nondifference.

 

The jagat IS ishwara - ishavasya idam sarvam - to say

Ishwara "created" this jagat is hence not entirely

valid.

At the same time, the jagat that we cognize - the

duality that is apparent - has to be accounted for.

The existence of this jagat is because it is Brahman

and hence IS. Its noncognizance (as Brahman)is due to

avidya - Hence "maya".

 

Ishwara is the ever-peaceful - in fact He is peace, He

is bliss.

There is a melodious song by Lata which echoes this

beautifully

"ishwar satya hai

satya hi shiv hai

shiv hi sundar hai

jaago uthkar dekho

ye jeevan jyot ujaagar hai

satyam shivam sundaram"!

 

Yes there is a "lot of misery"

But, in fact the only misery, the only suffering, is

really ignorance, that is brought on by Maya. It is

ever at the relative plane alone.

 

There is no question of "us" merging with "Him" - if

we were ever separate from Him, merging with Him would

be impossible. We are Him - already - right at this

very moment in time and place - we have to KNOW this

fact. And that is what Vedanta so beautifully unfolds.

 

On a different note, I am glad some old friends have

re-joined this forum - sankaraman-ji and durga-ji -

welcome back.

 

A word of thanks to Subbu-ji for those uplifting pics

of Meenakshi kovil.

 

 

Hari OM

Shyam

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- Dhananjaya Agrawal <dhananjayaagrawal >

wrote:

 

> Om Om Everyone. I simply want to ask everyone,what

> is the

> significance of this creation, why it was

> menifested? Had it not been

> better for the almighty God to rest in peace and let

> the individual

> souls also rest in peace. I see despite so many

> beautiful things in

> this world, a lot of misery is there. First the God

> alowed us to be

> there in the world and then ask us to merge with

> him. Why is it like

> that? Please clarify.

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Thank u Ramana Ji & Shyam Ji, Detailed analysis, given by both of u, has

satisfied me to a great extent. I am great full to both of u. Thank u.

Dhananjaya.

 

Ramana Sarma Poduri <rpodury > wrote:

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> I think nobody could answer this question ecxept a God realised One.

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