Guest guest Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 Dear Group Members Since Aushtosh who has mentioned his birth details here in this group and also mentioned that he is full time astrologer i thought to Analise his chart with both ayanamsa i.e. Lahiri (L.A) and Mine (T.A) now for astrology profession we should have our tenth house link with eight house because Tenth is profession house and eight is house of occult and astrology is an subject of occult. Now when we look at this chart With L.A we see that the lord of tenth house is placed in seventh house that is there is no link of tenth house with eight house and now if we calculate this chart with T.A we see that his tenth lord is placed in eight house the house of occult subjects Now i am not understanding why the good astrologers like ashuthosh does not look at this aspect. I am attaching his horoscope both lahiri and mine (T.A) on this link so that other astrologer could see it http://www.occultwizard.com/aushotosh.htm I hope astrologer Ashutosh do not leave this group, with best wishes Tarun Chopra consult your horoscope online http://www.occultwizard.com astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh (AT) (DOT) fr> wrote: Dear group, For nineteen months I was a member of this group. I enjoyed being here and also took part in some of the intelligent, thought provoking discussions here. It is time for me to leave '' group. I apologise if I have hurt anyone intentionally or unintentionally, as a member or as a moderator. I will be active on my own groups viz 'marital_astrology' and 'jyotish_vigyan'. My schedule has become too busy to be an active member of big groups like JR and 'valist'. I am presently acting as a moderator on Das Goravani's group 'valist' too, which too I will leave as and when he desires to take charge of his group. Das Goravani is the creator of Goravani Jyotish Software. His knowledge about astrology and Hindu/Indian culture is beyond comparison. He needs no introduction to the members who have been on internet for a while. It is my good fortune that a person of his caliber, stature and fame has given me some responsibility. The task of a non-owner moderator is like walking on sword's blade. He has to go through each and every mail taking extra time for this. Offline requests, complaints, messages from members and abuses from the moderated members, have to be handled too. I do not believe in entertaining each and every thought just for the sake of discussions. I am autocratic too, exalted Mars, but the autocracy is not to forward own ego but to avoid any possible problems. My own groups are very strictly moderated with each message screened before being cleared. The message frequency is very less but the members get focused advice only. My sun antardasha in Jupiter mahadasha is ending in February 2007. Till then, some instability will remain, in one way or other, in my life. For astrology students, my birth details are as under: 19th October 1971 00.10 hrs Jodhpur (Rajasthan) India 26N18 73E08 The interesting part is that I am leaving JR when my Jup-Sun-Ketu is on. Ketu, the knife which cuts away permanently. Sun is in transit in my sixth house. Ketu is in second house (family, group) alongwith Saturn. About me. I am a self-employed full time astrologer. I have dedicated my life to this science. It is not a mere hobby or a pastime for me. Every single penny I have earned till date has been through astrological practices. Everyone who knows me recognises me as an astrologer only though I have multitude of other talents too. Each one of these talents are This is not an advertisement of myself but a clarification why I am so serious about keeping the sanctity of astrology intact. My efforts are to give astrology a status of a recognised service. I have discussed this matter with some of my clients who hold high posts in the revenue department of the Government of India. I have even offered to pay a service tax to the government if they include astrological practices in the list of services being taxed. That will at least give some recognition to this ancient science in its own land of origin. Some last words of suggestions: Astrology should not be trivialized in the name of discussions. Many a times, the essence of subject is lost and other meaningless matters are brought into the debates. This makes the learners loose interest in astrology itself. The focus should be to keep the discussions to the point and free from any personal opinions and prejudices. Every astrologer, including me, has his/her own weaknesses. Understanding them is more important than understanding others' weaknesses. One cannot clean a floor with dirty water. The water itself should be clean in the first place. An astrologer's best tool is his expressions, through speech, writing or action. These expressions should have only the benefit of the solution seeker in mind. Yes, one must make sure that the seeker is genuine, then the correct and ethical solutions should be offered. Best wishes to all. May '' thrive and prosper always. Many thanks to all members for tolerating me for so long. Lastly, A VERY HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO TANVIR. May you shine like a thousand suns and may your brilliance lighten all corners of the universe. Regards, Ashutosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 Aren't you missing the obvious, Tarun? 8th lord in house of income 11th can explain a jyotish profession without having to use any exotic ayanamsha or house divisions. RR , Tarun Chopra <occult_wizard wrote: > > Dear Group Members > > Since Aushtosh who has mentioned his birth details here in this group and also mentioned that he is full time astrologer i thought to Analise his chart with both ayanamsa i.e. Lahiri (L.A) and Mine (T.A) > > now for astrology profession we should have our tenth house link with eight house because Tenth is profession house and eight is house of occult and astrology is an subject of occult. > > Now when we look at this chart With L.A we see that the lord of tenth house is placed in seventh house that is there is no link of tenth house with eight house and now if we calculate this chart with T.A we see that his tenth lord is placed in eight house the house of occult subjects > > Now i am not understanding why the good astrologers like ashuthosh does not look at this aspect. > > I am attaching his horoscope both lahiri and mine (T.A) on this link so that other astrologer could see it http://www.occultwizard.com/aushotosh.htm > > I hope astrologer Ashutosh do not leave this group, > > with best wishes > > Tarun Chopra > consult your horoscope online http://www.occultwizard.com > > > astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh wrote: Dear group, > > For nineteen months I was a member of this group. I enjoyed being here and also took part in some of the intelligent, thought provoking discussions here. > > It is time for me to leave '' group. > > I apologise if I have hurt anyone intentionally or unintentionally, as a member or as a moderator. I will be active on my own groups viz 'marital_astrology' and 'jyotish_vigyan'. My schedule has become too busy to be an active member of big groups like JR and 'valist'. > > I am presently acting as a moderator on Das Goravani's group 'valist' too, which too I will leave as and when he desires to take charge of his group. Das Goravani is the creator of Goravani Jyotish Software. His knowledge about astrology and Hindu/Indian culture is beyond comparison. He needs no introduction to the members who have been on internet for a while. It is my good fortune that a person of his caliber, stature and fame has given me some responsibility. > > The task of a non-owner moderator is like walking on sword's blade. He has to go through each and every mail taking extra time for this. Offline requests, complaints, messages from members and abuses from the moderated members, have to be handled too. I do not believe in entertaining each and every thought just for the sake of discussions. I am autocratic too, exalted Mars, but the autocracy is not to forward own ego but to avoid any possible problems. My own groups are very strictly moderated with each message screened before being cleared. The message frequency is very less but the members get focused advice only. > > My sun antardasha in Jupiter mahadasha is ending in February 2007. Till then, some instability will remain, in one way or other, in my life. For astrology students, my birth details are as under: > > 19th October 1971 > 00.10 hrs > Jodhpur (Rajasthan) > India > 26N18 73E08 > > The interesting part is that I am leaving JR when my Jup-Sun-Ketu is on. Ketu, the knife which cuts away permanently. Sun is in transit in my sixth house. Ketu is in second house (family, group) alongwith Saturn. > > About me. I am a self-employed full time astrologer. I have dedicated my life to this science. It is not a mere hobby or a pastime for me. Every single penny I have earned till date has been through astrological practices. Everyone who knows me recognises me as an astrologer only though I have multitude of other talents too. Each one of these talents are > > This is not an advertisement of myself but a clarification why I am so serious about keeping the sanctity of astrology intact. My efforts are to give astrology a status of a recognised service. I have discussed this matter with some of my clients who hold high posts in the revenue department of the Government of India. I have even offered to pay a service tax to the government if they include astrological practices in the list of services being taxed. > > That will at least give some recognition to this ancient science in its own land of origin. > > Some last words of suggestions: > > Astrology should not be trivialized in the name of discussions. Many a times, the essence of subject is lost and other meaningless matters are brought into the debates. This makes the learners loose interest in astrology itself. The focus should be to keep the discussions to the point and free from any personal opinions and prejudices. > > Every astrologer, including me, has his/her own weaknesses. Understanding them is more important than understanding others' weaknesses. One cannot clean a floor with dirty water. The water itself should be clean in the first place. > > An astrologer's best tool is his expressions, through speech, writing or action. These expressions should have only the benefit of the solution seeker in mind. Yes, one must make sure that the seeker is genuine, then the correct and ethical solutions should be offered. > > Best wishes to all. May '' thrive and prosper always. Many thanks to all members for tolerating me for so long. > > Lastly, A VERY HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO TANVIR. May you shine like a thousand suns and may your brilliance lighten all corners of the universe. > > Regards, > > Ashutosh > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 So Mr Rohini Ranjan you are saying the point which i have raised is wrong that for astrology as a profession a person should not have a link of eight house with profession house. Tarun Chopra www.occultwizard.com Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: Aren't you missing the obvious, Tarun? 8th lord in house of income 11th can explain a jyotish profession without having to use any exotic ayanamsha or house divisions. RR , Tarun Chopra <occult_wizard wrote: > > Dear Group Members > > Since Aushtosh who has mentioned his birth details here in this group and also mentioned that he is full time astrologer i thought to Analise his chart with both ayanamsa i.e. Lahiri (L.A) and Mine (T.A) > > now for astrology profession we should have our tenth house link with eight house because Tenth is profession house and eight is house of occult and astrology is an subject of occult. > > Now when we look at this chart With L.A we see that the lord of tenth house is placed in seventh house that is there is no link of tenth house with eight house and now if we calculate this chart with T.A we see that his tenth lord is placed in eight house the house of occult subjects > > Now i am not understanding why the good astrologers like ashuthosh does not look at this aspect. > > I am attaching his horoscope both lahiri and mine (T.A) on this link so that other astrologer could see it http://www.occultwizard.com/aushotosh.htm > > I hope astrologer Ashutosh do not leave this group, > > with best wishes > > Tarun Chopra > consult your horoscope online http://www.occultwizard.com > > > astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh wrote: Dear group, > > For nineteen months I was a member of this group. I enjoyed being here and also took part in some of the intelligent, thought provoking discussions here. > > It is time for me to leave '' group. > > I apologise if I have hurt anyone intentionally or unintentionally, as a member or as a moderator. I will be active on my own groups viz 'marital_astrology' and 'jyotish_vigyan'. My schedule has become too busy to be an active member of big groups like JR and 'valist'. > > I am presently acting as a moderator on Das Goravani's group 'valist' too, which too I will leave as and when he desires to take charge of his group. Das Goravani is the creator of Goravani Jyotish Software. His knowledge about astrology and Hindu/Indian culture is beyond comparison. He needs no introduction to the members who have been on internet for a while. It is my good fortune that a person of his caliber, stature and fame has given me some responsibility. > > The task of a non-owner moderator is like walking on sword's blade. He has to go through each and every mail taking extra time for this. Offline requests, complaints, messages from members and abuses from the moderated members, have to be handled too. I do not believe in entertaining each and every thought just for the sake of discussions. I am autocratic too, exalted Mars, but the autocracy is not to forward own ego but to avoid any possible problems. My own groups are very strictly moderated with each message screened before being cleared. The message frequency is very less but the members get focused advice only. > > My sun antardasha in Jupiter mahadasha is ending in February 2007. Till then, some instability will remain, in one way or other, in my life. For astrology students, my birth details are as under: > > 19th October 1971 > 00.10 hrs > Jodhpur (Rajasthan) > India > 26N18 73E08 > > The interesting part is that I am leaving JR when my Jup-Sun-Ketu is on. Ketu, the knife which cuts away permanently. Sun is in transit in my sixth house. Ketu is in second house (family, group) alongwith Saturn. > > About me. I am a self-employed full time astrologer. I have dedicated my life to this science. It is not a mere hobby or a pastime for me. Every single penny I have earned till date has been through astrological practices. Everyone who knows me recognises me as an astrologer only though I have multitude of other talents too. Each one of these talents are > > This is not an advertisement of myself but a clarification why I am so serious about keeping the sanctity of astrology intact. My efforts are to give astrology a status of a recognised service. I have discussed this matter with some of my clients who hold high posts in the revenue department of the Government of India. I have even offered to pay a service tax to the government if they include astrological practices in the list of services being taxed. > > That will at least give some recognition to this ancient science in its own land of origin. > > Some last words of suggestions: > > Astrology should not be trivialized in the name of discussions. Many a times, the essence of subject is lost and other meaningless matters are brought into the debates. This makes the learners loose interest in astrology itself. The focus should be to keep the discussions to the point and free from any personal opinions and prejudices. > > Every astrologer, including me, has his/her own weaknesses. Understanding them is more important than understanding others' weaknesses. One cannot clean a floor with dirty water. The water itself should be clean in the first place. > > An astrologer's best tool is his expressions, through speech, writing or action. These expressions should have only the benefit of the solution seeker in mind. Yes, one must make sure that the seeker is genuine, then the correct and ethical solutions should be offered. > > Best wishes to all. May '' thrive and prosper always. Many thanks to all members for tolerating me for so long. > > Lastly, A VERY HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO TANVIR. May you shine like a thousand suns and may your brilliance lighten all corners of the universe. > > Regards, > > Ashutosh > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 Mr. Chopra, It is not about right or wrong necessarily. Tenth house is indeed associated with karma and that includes the vocation and profession, however the clear association does not always show up in the chart. House of income often has a say too as well as other houses. It is not safe to use the single factor as you utilized to consider it as a definitive proof that an ayanamsha works or not. I am not sure if Ashutoshji is on the list or not or actively so, hence it would not be proper of me to talk about his horoscope any further. You are not bound by my code of conduct, of course! RR , Tarun Chopra <occult_wizard wrote: > > So Mr Rohini Ranjan you are saying the point which i have raised is wrong that for astrology as a profession a person should not have a link of eight house with profession house. > > Tarun Chopra > www.occultwizard.com > > Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani wrote: Aren't you missing the obvious, Tarun? > > 8th lord in house of income 11th can explain a jyotish profession > without having to use any exotic ayanamsha or house divisions. > > RR > > , Tarun Chopra > <occult_wizard@> wrote: > > > > Dear Group Members > > > > Since Aushtosh who has mentioned his birth details here in this > group and also mentioned that he is full time astrologer i thought > to Analise his chart with both ayanamsa i.e. Lahiri (L.A) and Mine > (T.A) > > > > now for astrology profession we should have our tenth house link > with eight house because Tenth is profession house and eight is > house of occult and astrology is an subject of occult. > > > > Now when we look at this chart With L.A we see that the lord of > tenth house is placed in seventh house that is there is no link of > tenth house with eight house and now if we calculate this chart with > T.A we see that his tenth lord is placed in eight house the house of > occult subjects > > > > Now i am not understanding why the good astrologers like ashuthosh > does not look at this aspect. > > > > I am attaching his horoscope both lahiri and mine (T.A) on this > link so that other astrologer could see it > http://www.occultwizard.com/aushotosh.htm > > > > I hope astrologer Ashutosh do not leave this group, > > > > with best wishes > > > > Tarun Chopra > > consult your horoscope online http://www.occultwizard.com > > > > > > astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh@> > wrote: Dear group, > > > > For nineteen months I was a member of this group. I enjoyed being > here and also took part in some of the intelligent, thought provoking > discussions here. > > > > It is time for me to leave '' group. > > > > I apologise if I have hurt anyone intentionally or > unintentionally, as a member or as a moderator. I will be active on > my own groups viz 'marital_astrology' and 'jyotish_vigyan'. My > schedule has become too busy to be an active member of big groups > like JR and 'valist'. > > > > I am presently acting as a moderator on Das Goravani's > group 'valist' too, which too I will leave as and when he desires to > take charge of his group. Das Goravani is the creator of Goravani > Jyotish Software. His knowledge about astrology and Hindu/Indian > culture is beyond comparison. He needs no introduction to the members > who have been on internet for a while. It is my good fortune that a > person of his caliber, stature and fame has given me some > responsibility. > > > > The task of a non-owner moderator is like walking on sword's > blade. He has to go through each and every mail taking extra time for > this. Offline requests, complaints, messages from members and abuses > from the moderated members, have to be handled too. I do not believe > in entertaining each and every thought just for the sake of > discussions. I am autocratic too, exalted Mars, but the autocracy is > not to forward own ego but to avoid any possible problems. My own > groups are very strictly moderated with each message screened before > being cleared. The message frequency is very less but the members get > focused advice only. > > > > My sun antardasha in Jupiter mahadasha is ending in February 2007. > Till then, some instability will remain, in one way or other, in my > life. For astrology students, my birth details are as under: > > > > 19th October 1971 > > 00.10 hrs > > Jodhpur (Rajasthan) > > India > > 26N18 73E08 > > > > The interesting part is that I am leaving JR when my Jup-Sun-Ketu > is on. Ketu, the knife which cuts away permanently. Sun is in transit > in my sixth house. Ketu is in second house (family, group) alongwith > Saturn. > > > > About me. I am a self-employed full time astrologer. I have > dedicated my life to this science. It is not a mere hobby or a > pastime for me. Every single penny I have earned till date has been > through astrological practices. Everyone who knows me recognises me > as an astrologer only though I have multitude of other talents too. > Each one of these talents are > > > > This is not an advertisement of myself but a clarification why I > am so serious about keeping the sanctity of astrology intact. My > efforts are to give astrology a status of a recognised service. I > have discussed this matter with some of my clients who hold high > posts in the revenue department of the Government of India. I have > even offered to pay a service tax to the government if they include > astrological practices in the list of services being taxed. > > > > That will at least give some recognition to this ancient science > in its own land of origin. > > > > Some last words of suggestions: > > > > Astrology should not be trivialized in the name of discussions. > Many a times, the essence of subject is lost and other meaningless > matters are brought into the debates. This makes the learners loose > interest in astrology itself. The focus should be to keep the > discussions to the point and free from any personal opinions and > prejudices. > > > > Every astrologer, including me, has his/her own weaknesses. > Understanding them is more important than understanding others' > weaknesses. One cannot clean a floor with dirty water. The water > itself should be clean in the first place. > > > > An astrologer's best tool is his expressions, through speech, > writing or action. These expressions should have only the benefit of > the solution seeker in mind. Yes, one must make sure that the seeker > is genuine, then the correct and ethical solutions should be offered. > > > > Best wishes to all. May '' thrive and prosper > always. Many thanks to all members for tolerating me for so long. > > > > Lastly, A VERY HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO TANVIR. May you shine like a > thousand suns and may your brilliance lighten all corners of the > universe. > > > > Regards, > > > > Ashutosh > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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