Dangerous Snakes Dreams always GOOD / BAD ? 26/12

[Guest guest]

Mr. Kumar,

 

It seems that you and your friends were the only one concerned about

my dry story and decided to take on the role of the class-room monitor

in this instance as you have tried to in the past a few times, trying

to control what I should write and what people should post and so on.

I do not think that is within your mandate as a contributor on this or

any other forum! Please keep to what you do best and if my style or

substance rub you the wrong way, or rattle your cage -- please refrain

from reading what I post (repeated for the Nth time and I will

continue till the message sinks in!).

 

RR

 

vedic astrology, Me Shubha Vela <pkgoteti

wrote:

>

> Dear RR,

>

> well the the scientist story is a good one as it did not form part

of any question of a member.

> where as the SNAKE mail was about a question where anyone who could

answer her question was NEEDED not a dry story to cover her concern

did ur story solve her fears is all u need to ask urself or anyone

posting a reply not in line with the question. In ur case u r suposed

to be more experiened than many members around so a can draw from

resources if any or direct her to some books, site, person who can

answer it

>

> In my limited knowledge Prasna Marga has some clues but have kept my

books in a box in the loft for a yr till i finish the construction

work so can't recall off hand.

>

> I can't call that venom, may be there is a suitable word for it still.

>

> G B Prashant Kumar

>

> Pl give personal data with some life events and dates, jobs,

marriage, family, kids.

> Services of this astrologer in the group are free, personal mail and

CHAT consultations ARE CHARGEABLE!

>

>

>

>

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

> vedic astrology

> Tuesday, December 26, 2006 3:06:14 AM

> [vedic astrology] Re: Dangerous Snakes Dreams always

GOOD or BAD ?? 22/12

>

> Dear B. Chowdhury and Sri Kumarji,

>

> I am glad that both of you got a chance to beat up on me and were able

> to expel the venom out of your systems :-)

>

> Keeping anger and frustration inside and brooding over it is corrosive

> to the soul. Did I ever tell you the story of the scientist who was

> trying to discover the universal solvent that can dissolve anything

> and everything. His father, an illiterate farmer asked innocently,

> "Dear son once you have discovered this solvent, where will you

store it?"

>

> OOPS -- SORRY! I forgot that both of you gentlemen are kind of

> intolerant to stories told by others!

>

> Season's greetings ;-)

>

> RR

>

> vedic astrology, biswajit chowdhury

> <chowdhury_biswajit wrote:

> >

> > Dear GBPK,

> > I appriciate your reply to RR.Hope your bold will go no.

> > regards

> > B.Chowdhury

> > Kolkata.

> >

> > Me Shubha Vela <pkgoteti@ .> wrote:

> > Dear RR

> >

> > ur story telling is fine pl address her issues as if u had

> experienced such reverence and sure some stories and remedies will

> also be in ur memory hep the poor women than scare/nore her.

> >

> > But If I were u will suggest some Subramanya [Kartikeya] kavachams

> or stotra etc. then tell stories.

> >

> > G B Prashant Kumar

> >

> > Pl give personal data with some life events and dates, jobs,

> marriage, family, kids.

> > Services of this astrologer in the group are free, personal mail and

> CHAT consultations ARE CHARGEABLE!

> >

> >

> > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> > vedic astrology

> > Friday, December 22, 2006 9:10:13 AM

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Dangerous Snakes Dreams always GOOD

> or BAD ?? SHARING

> >

> > JUST SHARING! Don't bite me!!

> >

> > over the last thirty years -- have had many snake dreams including

> > dreams of killing them -- and actually having experienced one instance

> > where I killed a cobra and helped/witnessed a few other killings

> > earlier in my childhood home!

> >

> > When it comes to survival or perceived survival -- trust a human

> > always! There is nothing more CRUEL and CAPABLE at KILLING than

> > him/her!! Now you know the full story behind our Scriptures!! !

> >

> > I was raised in a home that had a huge yard and even a jungle! It used

> > to be a home where the Brit resident (circa pre 1947 I assume and

> > hope?) lived and was a huge wooden home about 125 years old (back then

> > in the 50s). Each monsoon, beams from the roofs would crash down as we

> > slept outside to avoid the heat (no airconditioning back then!).

> > Mosquito nets had been invented and in regular use -- in case some of

> > the younger uninformed (;-)) folks are wondering!!

> >

> > Let me not spook you out completely by describing the fat rats that

> > lived in the attic and came down the ventilator rope!

> >

> > Years later in another newer home -- oh in the 80s a cobra was spotted

> > in the bathroom of that second home of mine, poised with hood

> > stretched up but was it really ready to attack? I do not know! I was

> > not there, physically!!

> >

> > I was never told what they finally did to that snake!

> >

> > The area I grew up in was heavily 'populated' with snakes, mostly

> > Cobras! While fear was there, there was more of a feeling of

reverence!

> >

> > I can through that experience of years understand and empathize with

> > those who face rahu face to face -- in their private space, like a

> > bathroom!

> >

> > But then, I grew up in an area that was under the blessing and direct

> > protection of Mahakaal! I always and still believe that to be the

case!

> >

> > No physical or worldly ties remain anymore with that realm but it does

> > not go away from my memory! So, it must be important! Right?

> >

> > RR

> >

> > vedic astrology, geeta charan <charangeeta@

> ...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Gurudev Sadar Pranam,

> > >

> > > Date - 23/08/1980

> > > time - 1-4 am

> > > Place - Boath Adilabad (AP)

> > >

> > >

> > > My dreams are of big snakes and snake does bite me sometime But

> > sometime he rans behind me. Plz suggest some remedy or what is meaning

> > of these dreams ?? can any one has answers for these.

> > >

> > > As i m getting regularly these dreams and i m afraid of dreams.

> > plz suggest.

> > >

> > > regds

> > > geeta

> > >

> > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger.

> > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Good one Rohiniji!

Ironically/interestingly, Geeta (one who posted the query in the first place) has not raised any objection/dismay/displeasure at your feedback, to the best of my knowledge. It is the self appointed police/advisory board/pro bono lawyers/guardian angels doing the talk! What these people have (deliberately?) overlooked is the significance of your explicitly expressed empathy and implicitly hinted possible conscious/ subconscious/ supraconscious reasons behind the sneaky dreams, I mean snake dreams :-)

On a conscious level, snake dream could stem from one's personal encounter with an actual snake, as you have mentioned in your response. ANY experience PERCEIVED as life-threatening one, can haunt dreams that might fade with time, since this directly deals with memory. As you said, the fact that man is more cruel when it comes to survival, should take care of the 'logic' of fear (oxymoron?)

On a subconscious level, as Carl Jung suggested, snake dream is a motiff belonging to the human 'archetype'; meaning the experience is universal, cutting across culture, gender, age, time and space. This explains why someone in Manhattan downtown is more afraid of snakes (statistically insignificant threat) than other significant threats such as road accident etc. BTW, snake could mean a lot depending on spiritual, scientific etc. PREDISPOSITION of the INDIVIDUAL (which is not known about Ms. Geeta); it can even lead to a serendipitous discovery (Kekule's dream of snake swallowing its tail- closed loop of benzene molecular structure)

On a supraconscious level, Rahu is indicated, perhaps; you have more than hinted at this in your response. You have mentioned about Mahakaal as well. It follows that appesing/worshipping Rahu/Mahakaal is a good idea!

Sharing stories (&empathizing) is a nice and perhaps most effective way of getting a point across, many a time. Talk about epics on (a)dharma and parables of great religious leaders!

All the same, like you said, it is an individual that decides which way he/she wants to help the other person...

Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Mr. Kumar,

 

It seems that you and your friends were the only one concerned about

my dry story and decided to take on the role of the class-room monitor

in this instance as you have tried to in the past a few times, trying

to control what I should write and what people should post and so on.

I do not think that is within your mandate as a contributor on this or

any other forum! Please keep to what you do best and if my style or

substance rub you the wrong way, or rattle your cage -- please refrain

from reading what I post (repeated for the Nth time and I will

continue till the message sinks in!).

 

RR

 

vedic astrology, Me Shubha Vela <pkgoteti

wrote:

>

> Dear RR,

>

> well the the scientist story is a good one as it did not form part

of any question of a member.

> where as the SNAKE mail was about a question where anyone who could

answer her question was NEEDED not a dry story to cover her concern

did ur story solve her fears is all u need to ask urself or anyone

posting a reply not in line with the question. In ur case u r suposed

to be more experiened than many members around so a can draw from

resources if any or direct her to some books, site, person who can

answer it

>

> In my limited knowledge Prasna Marga has some clues but have kept my

books in a box in the loft for a yr till i finish the construction

work so can't recall off hand.

>

> I can't call that venom, may be there is a suitable word for it still.

>

> G B Prashant Kumar

>

> Pl give personal data with some life events and dates, jobs,

marriage, family, kids.

> Services of this astrologer in the group are free, personal mail and

CHAT consultations ARE CHARGEABLE!

>

>

>

>

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

> vedic astrology

> Tuesday, December 26, 2006 3:06:14 AM

> [vedic astrology] Re: Dangerous Snakes Dreams always

GOOD or BAD ?? 22/12

>

> Dear B. Chowdhury and Sri Kumarji,

>

> I am glad that both of you got a chance to beat up on me and were able

> to expel the venom out of your systems :-)

>

> Keeping anger and frustration inside and brooding over it is corrosive

> to the soul. Did I ever tell you the story of the scientist who was

> trying to discover the universal solvent that can dissolve anything

> and everything. His father, an illiterate farmer asked innocently,

> "Dear son once you have discovered this solvent, where will you

store it?"

>

> OOPS -- SORRY! I forgot that both of you gentlemen are kind of

> intolerant to stories told by others!

>

> Season's greetings ;-)

>

> RR

>

> vedic astrology, biswajit chowdhury

> <chowdhury_biswajit wrote:

> >

> > Dear GBPK,

> > I appriciate your reply to RR.Hope your bold will go no.

> > regards

> > B.Chowdhury

> > Kolkata.

> >

> > Me Shubha Vela <pkgoteti@ .> wrote:

> > Dear RR

> >

> > ur story telling is fine pl address her issues as if u had

> experienced such reverence and sure some stories and remedies will

> also be in ur memory hep the poor women than scare/nore her.

> >

> > But If I were u will suggest some Subramanya [Kartikeya] kavachams

> or stotra etc. then tell stories.

> >

> > G B Prashant Kumar

> >

> > Pl give personal data with some life events and dates, jobs,

> marriage, family, kids.

> > Services of this astrologer in the group are free, personal mail and

> CHAT consultations ARE CHARGEABLE!

> >

> >

> > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> > vedic astrology

> > Friday, December 22, 2006 9:10:13 AM

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Dangerous Snakes Dreams always GOOD

> or BAD ?? SHARING

> >

> > JUST SHARING! Don't bite me!!

> >

> > over the last thirty years -- have had many snake dreams including

> > dreams of killing them -- and actually having experienced one instance

> > where I killed a cobra and helped/witnessed a few other killings

> > earlier in my childhood home!

> >

> > When it comes to survival or perceived survival -- trust a human

> > always! There is nothing more CRUEL and CAPABLE at KILLING than

> > him/her!! Now you know the full story behind our Scriptures!! !

> >

> > I was raised in a home that had a huge yard and even a jungle! It used

> > to be a home where the Brit resident (circa pre 1947 I assume and

> > hope?) lived and was a huge wooden home about 125 years old (back then

> > in the 50s). Each monsoon, beams from the roofs would crash down as we

> > slept outside to avoid the heat (no airconditioning back then!).

> > Mosquito nets had been invented and in regular use -- in case some of

> > the younger uninformed (;-)) folks are wondering!!

> >

> > Let me not spook you out completely by describing the fat rats that

> > lived in the attic and came down the ventilator rope!

> >

> > Years later in another newer home -- oh in the 80s a cobra was spotted

> > in the bathroom of that second home of mine, poised with hood

> > stretched up but was it really ready to attack? I do not know! I was

> > not there, physically!!

> >

> > I was never told what they finally did to that snake!

> >

> > The area I grew up in was heavily 'populated' with snakes, mostly

> > Cobras! While fear was there, there was more of a feeling of

reverence!

> >

> > I can through that experience of years understand and empathize with

> > those who face rahu face to face -- in their private space, like a

> > bathroom!

> >

> > But then, I grew up in an area that was under the blessing and direct

> > protection of Mahakaal! I always and still believe that to be the

case!

> >

> > No physical or worldly ties remain anymore with that realm but it does

> > not go away from my memory! So, it must be important! Right?

> >

> > RR

> >

> > vedic astrology, geeta charan <charangeeta@

> ...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Gurudev Sadar Pranam,

> > >

> > > Date - 23/08/1980

> > > time - 1-4 am

> > > Place - Boath Adilabad (AP)

> > >

> > >

> > > My dreams are of big snakes and snake does bite me sometime But

> > sometime he rans behind me. Plz suggest some remedy or what is meaning

> > of these dreams ?? can any one has answers for these.

> > >

> > > As i m getting regularly these dreams and i m afraid of dreams.

> > plz suggest.

> > >

> > > regds

> > > geeta

> > >

> > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger.

> > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Sree Ven ji,

 

At the risk of being sent to the corner of the class and made to stand

in the 'chicken posture', I would like to add two elements that came

to me as I was reading your thoughtful and supportive posting.

 

The Story of Genesis and the Garden of Eden where Devil came to Eve in

the form of a serpant and showed the Apple of Wisdom!

 

And the Hindu scriptural account of Vasuki, the Divine Serpant who was

engaged to carry out the Samudra manthan, a process that symbolically

has represented Deep Psychoanalysis of the Creation and which brought

forth all the gems of wisdom and power!

 

The Two allegories from the west (middle-east actually!) and east show

the strong association of Snakes with wisdom, with the opening of eyes

and imparting wisdom! Two ancient cultures and their scriptures could

not be wrong! And I am sure there must be similar associations in

other cultures and religions too!

 

Rahu and Ketu are associated with snakes and despite their association

with Asuras -- generally considered less in station than Devas in

terms of beauty of form or of knowledge and wisdom/intellect, surely

were different! They did manage to receive the amrita while other

asuras were enamoured by the Mohini Murti! Perhaps Rahu and Ketu must

not be underestimated for they could manage to see through Lord

Vishnu's Charm and that is no mean feat!

 

Now this does not mean that I am implying that rahu and ketu, willy

nilly would represent wisdom, or opening of one's eyes and all those

good qualities that Snakes (some snakes!) may have been attributed with!

 

I hope I am not rattling anyone's cage by my postings. I have a true

reverance for rattle snakes none of which were seen in a dream or two

but in real 'shows' in South Dakota in U.S.A. once.

 

There used to be a saying in rural Bengal, my Late Mother used to

relate that sticks in my mind. A dream of snakes as an omen, sometimes

indicates that the dreamer or a close relative will have a child soon.

I have never followed that up as a validation exercise so do not know

for sure.

 

RR

 

vedic astrology, sree ven <jyothishishya

wrote:

>

> Good one Rohiniji!

>

> Ironically/interestingly, Geeta (one who posted the query in the

first place) has not raised any objection/dismay/displeasure at your

feedback, to the best of my knowledge. It is the self appointed

police/advisory board/pro bono lawyers/guardian angels doing the talk!

What these people have (deliberately?) overlooked is the significance

of your explicitly expressed empathy and implicitly hinted possible

conscious/ subconscious/ supraconscious reasons behind the sneaky

dreams, I mean snake dreams :-)

>

> On a conscious level, snake dream could stem from one's personal

encounter with an actual snake, as you have mentioned in your

response. ANY experience PERCEIVED as life-threatening one, can haunt

dreams that might fade with time, since this directly deals with

memory. As you said, the fact that man is more cruel when it comes to

survival, should take care of the 'logic' of fear (oxymoron?)

>

> On a subconscious level, as Carl Jung suggested, snake dream is a

motiff belonging to the human 'archetype'; meaning the experience is

universal, cutting across culture, gender, age, time and space. This

explains why someone in Manhattan downtown is more afraid of snakes

(statistically insignificant threat) than other significant threats

such as road accident etc. BTW, snake could mean a lot depending on

spiritual, scientific etc. PREDISPOSITION of the INDIVIDUAL (which is

not known about Ms. Geeta); it can even lead to a serendipitous

discovery (Kekule's dream of snake swallowing its tail- closed loop of

benzene molecular structure)

>

> On a supraconscious level, Rahu is indicated, perhaps; you have

more than hinted at this in your response. You have mentioned about

Mahakaal as well. It follows that appesing/worshipping Rahu/Mahakaal

is a good idea!

>

> Sharing stories (&empathizing) is a nice and perhaps most

effective way of getting a point across, many a time. Talk about epics

on (a)dharma and parables of great religious leaders!

>

> All the same, like you said, it is an individual that decides

which way he/she wants to help the other person...

>

>

>

>

>

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote:

> Mr. Kumar,

>

> It seems that you and your friends were the only one concerned about

> my dry story and decided to take on the role of the class-room monitor

> in this instance as you have tried to in the past a few times, trying

> to control what I should write and what people should post and so on.

> I do not think that is within your mandate as a contributor on this or

> any other forum! Please keep to what you do best and if my style or

> substance rub you the wrong way, or rattle your cage -- please refrain

> from reading what I post (repeated for the Nth time and I will

> continue till the message sinks in!).

>

> RR

>

> vedic astrology, Me Shubha Vela <pkgoteti@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear RR,

> >

> > well the the scientist story is a good one as it did not form part

> of any question of a member.

> > where as the SNAKE mail was about a question where anyone who could

> answer her question was NEEDED not a dry story to cover her concern

> did ur story solve her fears is all u need to ask urself or anyone

> posting a reply not in line with the question. In ur case u r suposed

> to be more experiened than many members around so a can draw from

> resources if any or direct her to some books, site, person who can

> answer it

> >

> > In my limited knowledge Prasna Marga has some clues but have kept my

> books in a box in the loft for a yr till i finish the construction

> work so can't recall off hand.

> >

> > I can't call that venom, may be there is a suitable word for it still.

> >

> > G B Prashant Kumar

> >

> > Pl give personal data with some life events and dates, jobs,

> marriage, family, kids.

> > Services of this astrologer in the group are free, personal mail and

> CHAT consultations ARE CHARGEABLE!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@>

> > vedic astrology

> > Tuesday, December 26, 2006 3:06:14 AM

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Dangerous Snakes Dreams always

> GOOD or BAD ?? 22/12

> >

> > Dear B. Chowdhury and Sri Kumarji,

> >

> > I am glad that both of you got a chance to beat up on me and were able

> > to expel the venom out of your systems :-)

> >

> > Keeping anger and frustration inside and brooding over it is corrosive

> > to the soul. Did I ever tell you the story of the scientist who was

> > trying to discover the universal solvent that can dissolve anything

> > and everything. His father, an illiterate farmer asked innocently,

> > "Dear son once you have discovered this solvent, where will you

> store it?"

> >

> > OOPS -- SORRY! I forgot that both of you gentlemen are kind of

> > intolerant to stories told by others!

> >

> > Season's greetings ;-)

> >

> > RR

> >

> > vedic astrology, biswajit chowdhury

> > <chowdhury_biswajit wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear GBPK,

> > > I appriciate your reply to RR.Hope your bold will go no.

> > > regards

> > > B.Chowdhury

> > > Kolkata.

> > >

> > > Me Shubha Vela <pkgoteti@ .> wrote:

> > > Dear RR

> > >

> > > ur story telling is fine pl address her issues as if u had

> > experienced such reverence and sure some stories and remedies will

> > also be in ur memory hep the poor women than scare/nore her.

> > >

> > > But If I were u will suggest some Subramanya [Kartikeya] kavachams

> > or stotra etc. then tell stories.

> > >

> > > G B Prashant Kumar

> > >

> > > Pl give personal data with some life events and dates, jobs,

> > marriage, family, kids.

> > > Services of this astrologer in the group are free, personal mail and

> > CHAT consultations ARE CHARGEABLE!

> > >

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> > > vedic astrology

> > > Friday, December 22, 2006 9:10:13 AM

> > > [vedic astrology] Re: Dangerous Snakes Dreams always GOOD

> > or BAD ?? SHARING

> > >

> > > JUST SHARING! Don't bite me!!

> > >

> > > over the last thirty years -- have had many snake dreams including

> > > dreams of killing them -- and actually having experienced one

instance

> > > where I killed a cobra and helped/witnessed a few other killings

> > > earlier in my childhood home!

> > >

> > > When it comes to survival or perceived survival -- trust a human

> > > always! There is nothing more CRUEL and CAPABLE at KILLING than

> > > him/her!! Now you know the full story behind our Scriptures!! !

> > >

> > > I was raised in a home that had a huge yard and even a jungle!

It used

> > > to be a home where the Brit resident (circa pre 1947 I assume and

> > > hope?) lived and was a huge wooden home about 125 years old

(back then

> > > in the 50s). Each monsoon, beams from the roofs would crash down

as we

> > > slept outside to avoid the heat (no airconditioning back then!).

> > > Mosquito nets had been invented and in regular use -- in case

some of

> > > the younger uninformed (;-)) folks are wondering!!

> > >

> > > Let me not spook you out completely by describing the fat rats that

> > > lived in the attic and came down the ventilator rope!

> > >

> > > Years later in another newer home -- oh in the 80s a cobra was

spotted

> > > in the bathroom of that second home of mine, poised with hood

> > > stretched up but was it really ready to attack? I do not know! I was

> > > not there, physically!!

> > >

> > > I was never told what they finally did to that snake!

> > >

> > > The area I grew up in was heavily 'populated' with snakes, mostly

> > > Cobras! While fear was there, there was more of a feeling of

> reverence!

> > >

> > > I can through that experience of years understand and empathize with

> > > those who face rahu face to face -- in their private space, like a

> > > bathroom!

> > >

> > > But then, I grew up in an area that was under the blessing and

direct

> > > protection of Mahakaal! I always and still believe that to be the

> case!

> > >

> > > No physical or worldly ties remain anymore with that realm but

it does

> > > not go away from my memory! So, it must be important! Right?

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, geeta charan <charangeeta@

> > ...>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Gurudev Sadar Pranam,

> > > >

> > > > Date - 23/08/1980

> > > > time - 1-4 am

> > > > Place - Boath Adilabad (AP)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > My dreams are of big snakes and snake does bite me sometime But

> > > sometime he rans behind me. Plz suggest some remedy or what is

meaning

> > > of these dreams ?? can any one has answers for these.

> > > >

> > > > As i m getting regularly these dreams and i m afraid of dreams.

> > > plz suggest.

> > > >

> > > > regds

> > > > geeta

> > > >

> > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your

Messenger.

> > > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php

> > > >

> > > >