What effect will Shani give in 7 th house ,in Capricon ascendent(shani is lo

January 1, 2007

Dr. Jaiswal,

Sani in the 7th house in Cancer will give a good looking, hard-working

and devoted partner. It may lead to residence abroad, or the in-laws

will have a great influence on the native.

--Radha

January 1, 2007

I mention this because Saturn in the seventh in Cancer is one of the

exceptions. R. Lakshmanan quotes from Phaladeepika, saying that when

Saturn is with Mars in Cancer "the native's wife is chaste and fortunate."

--Radha

, "D Ramapriya" <ramapriya.d

wrote:

>

> On 1/1/07, aphoton47 <aphoton wrote:

> >

> > Dr. Jaiswal,

> >

> > Sani in the 7th house in Cancer will give a good looking, hard-working

> > and devoted partner. It may lead to residence abroad, or the in-laws

> > will have a great influence on the native.

> >

> > --Radha

> >

>

> Dear Radha,

>

> There are other factors too, which of course are difficult to

discern in the

> absence of a chart. For example, if without benefic aspects, the spouse

> could also be sickly, infirm, be domineered by the native and rather

bereft

> of longevity. If Moon, being dispositor of Cancer, is bright and

aspected by

> Mercury, she could be lewd and lecherous on the sly, etc. These bets

are off

> in a fem chart where the spouse's indicator is the 8th.

>

> On the whole, it's quite pointless to ask for, or indeed attempt,

> prognostications based on just one planet's placement.

>

> Cheers,

>

> Ramapriya

>

January 2, 2007

Ramapriya,

You should ask that question of someone who actually has that

combination. How would an outsider know something so personal?

--Radha

, "D Ramapriya" <ramapriya.d

wrote:

>

> Dear Radha,

>

> Don't know about you but this is quite the sort of thing that pops

up here

> and there in astro classics making me wonder if they're serious.

>

> Cancer hosts Saturn for 30 months once in 30 years. Capricorn gets

to be the

> lagna each day for 2 hours. Simple statistics would indicate potentially

> rather large numbers of births and ergo I wouldn't want to

generalize about

> chastity or fortune at all, other things not considered.

>

> Just my 0.02,

>

> Ramapriya

>

> On 1/2/07, aphoton47 <aphoton wrote:

> >

> > I mention this because Saturn in the seventh in Cancer is one of the

> > exceptions. R. Lakshmanan quotes from Phaladeepika, saying that when

> > Saturn is with Mars in Cancer "the native's wife is chaste and

fortunate."

> >

> > --Radha

> >

<%40>, "D

> > Ramapriya" <ramapriya.d@>

> > wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > On 1/1/07, aphoton47 <aphoton@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dr. Jaiswal,

> > > >

> > > > Sani in the 7th house in Cancer will give a good looking,

hard-working

> > > > and devoted partner. It may lead to residence abroad, or the

in-laws

> > > > will have a great influence on the native.

> > > >

> > > > --Radha

> > > >

> > >

> > > Dear Radha,

> > >

> > > There are other factors too, which of course are difficult to

> > discern in the

> > > absence of a chart. For example, if without benefic aspects, the

spouse

> > > could also be sickly, infirm, be domineered by the native and rather

> > bereft

> > > of longevity. If Moon, being dispositor of Cancer, is bright and

> > aspected by

> > > Mercury, she could be lewd and lecherous on the sly, etc. These bets

> > are off

> > > in a fem chart where the spouse's indicator is the 8th.

> > >

> > > On the whole, it's quite pointless to ask for, or indeed attempt,

> > > prognostications based on just one planet's placement.

> > >

> > > Cheers,

> > >

> > > Ramapriya

> >

>

January 3, 2007

Dear Sri Chandrasekhar (and others),

I would like to share the following details of my own horoscope, for

the benefit of fellow astrologers.

You were right in asserting that Saturn in the 7th gives strength in

general, and if it is his own or exaltation sign, he also gives Sasa

Maha Purusha Yoga. I have this combination in my own horoscope,

Saturn in 7th in Capricorn. I am listing down here, the influences

of Saturn as felt by me during my life so far.

- I got married at very right age (around 24 yrs) and hence cannot

be said as late marriage.

- I have a very happy and stable marriage for over 20 years so far

and is continuing.

- I neither have intention or desire or need to have another

marriage.

- Both myself and my wife are spiritually oriented and strictly self-

disciplined

- We have three children, two daughters and a son.

- All our children have prominent Saturn in their horoscopes, a

property inherited from parents' horoscopes.

- Except minor health problems common to a majority of people, both

my wife and I are healthy

- All my educational and professional achievements were/are during

Saturn periods.

- I got my academic achievement in one of the premier institutions

of India, IIT Kharagpur.

Specific influences of Saturn:

------------

- Saturn gave me directional strength, which (as quoted by an

experienced astrologer) means he directs the events in my life (or

steers/guides the direction of my life).

- I love old people, talking and spending time with old people. In

public gatherings, I spend more time with old people, and spend less

time with younger generation particularly those who look or act or

talk modern (with a very cheap opinion on traditions). It is just my

characteristic.

- I do not personally like those people, who ignore old people, and

those ignore traditional practices. Such is the influence of Saturn

(from 7th house) on my Lagna.

- I have been branded in my friends' circle, as an orthodox person

and not willing to accept modern practices. Yes, I am orthodox and I

value traditional practices very much. I do not accept a change

unless the change is inevitable, or is really worthy. I do not run

(or race) with the technology, as far as implementing technology to

myself. Though, I am myself a technical person and do a lot of

contribution to the field of technology. Saturn is a technical

planet and gave me higher education in technology only, I am

Engineer from IIT Kharagpur.

- I am extremely hardworking, as made by Saturn by his aspect on my

lagna, as well as Saturn is in the nakshathra of Lagna Lord Moon

(Sravanam nakshathram). Strangely there is a kind of parivarthana,

with Lagna being in the nakshathram of Saturn (Pushyami nakshatram).

- I love people who put hard-work for growth, rather than those who

dream of a dawn of fortune overnight.

- I am irritated by any system that is either inconvenient to

general masses (or public), or something that seems doing injustice

to masses - notice that Saturn represents masses and I have this

influence very much in myself.

- Most turning points in my life occurred during periods of Saturn -

also note that Saturn is my 8th lord, and 8th lord brings drastic

and irreversible changes (which I call as turning points in my life).

- Saturn in 7th gives a very balanced thinking mind; kind of

applying justice in many directions. Everything before I do, I check

from different directions; whether my action was going to cause

injustice to any section of people.

- Generally people love to (or attracted to) interact with me

(generally all categories of people), but particularly old people.

Such is the attraction of people with Saturn aspecting lagna (and

also lagna lord) and in a kind of parivarthana yoga with lagna as

mentioned above.

- The only malefic incident that happened in my life was, that my

wife had a terrible car accident in one Saturn antardasha (a few yrs

ago), but finally everything ended normal without any loss of life

to anyone involved - some financial loss, which is of course typical

of such an event.

- You were right in saying that Saturn gives good results when he is

stronger (than weaker). Strangely, Saturn is a malefic for Karkataka

lagna, but due his sterngth in my horoscope, he gave me spectacular

results.

Bottom line:

------------------

- Saturn in the 7th is not an easy thing to cope with; but once we

do; we see the best side of life (and shine like a diamond) and I

term it as a boon, and not a curse, particularly, if it is his own

house or exaltation sign.

For my own reasons, I do not wish to share more details of my

horoscope; sharing just Saturn-specific results only to add my

experiences to this thread.

Best regards.

Satya Sai Kolachina

, Chandrashekhar

<chandrashekhar46 wrote:

>

> Dear Ramapriya,

>

> I agree that a principle should be tested on numerous charts

before one

> accepts it.

>

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> D Ramapriya wrote:

> >

> > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> >

> > I agree. It's also one of the reasons why the oft-maligned

Saturn

> > exalts in

> > the 7th of the natural zodiac.

> >

> > My demur however is in establishing set-in-stone inferences from

just one

> > planetary position to the apparent exclusion of all else. The

ones more

> > learned may indeed be correct but as of now, I'd prefer to test

the

> > principle over as many cases I can lay my hands on.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Ramapriya

> >

> > On 1/2/07, Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46

> > <chandrashekhar46%40.co.uk>> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ramapriya,

> > > I think the logic of this yoga is that Saturn gets directional

strength

> > > in the 7th house and has a tendency to protect the house it

occupies or

> > > at the very least not harming the house. Saturn is also said

to give

> > > least troubles or even good results the stronger it is unlike

other Papa

> > > grahas.

> > > Chandrashekhar

> > >

> >

January 4, 2007

>There's one more chart of a famous Belfast native who died decades

>ago, in

>case you're interested.

Ramapriya,

Indeed, I am. Thank you.

--Radha

, "D Ramapriya" <ramapriya.d

wrote:

>

> Dear Radha,

>

> Sad to have to list a favorite's birth details but here goes... <native>

> born 15th May 1947 at 22.10 at Adelaide. He had two rather

well-publicized

> divorces in what were described as ignominious circumstances (his second

> wife sort of made out with the band's sound engineer).

>

> There's one more chart of a famous Belfast native who died decades

ago, in

> case you're interested.

>

> Cheers,

>

> Ramapriya

>

> On 1/2/07, aphoton47 <aphoton wrote:

> >

> > Ramapriya,

> > You should ask that question of someone who actually has that

> > combination. How would an outsider know something so personal?

> >

> > --Radha

> >

<%40>, "D

> > Ramapriya" <ramapriya.d@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Radha,

> > >

> > > Don't know about you but this is quite the sort of thing that pops

> > up here

> > > and there in astro classics making me wonder if they're serious.

> > >

> > > Cancer hosts Saturn for 30 months once in 30 years. Capricorn gets

> > to be the

> > > lagna each day for 2 hours. Simple statistics would indicate

potentially

> > > rather large numbers of births and ergo I wouldn't want to

> > generalize about

> > > chastity or fortune at all, other things not considered.

> > >

> > > Just my 0.02,

> > >

> > > Ramapriya

> >

>

January 4, 2007

-GOOD MORNING SIR THIS IS SAIRAMAN FROM CHENNAI 4TH JAN 2007 6 30 AM

YR MSG AND YR DESCRIPTION VERY NICE SIR

SERVICE TO HUMAN IS SERVICE TO GOD SERVICE AND CARING FOR SICK AND

OLD THE BEST PARIHARA FOR SATURN AND THESATURN IS THE KARAGHA FOR OLD

SICK DOWN TRODDEN AND POOR MASSES OF THE WORLD INSTEAD OF GOING TO

TEMPLES SPENDING HUGE HARD EARNED MONEYIN HUNDI ABHISHEGAM ETC

LEAVING ALL OLD AND SICK BEHIND

WHY I SAY THIS BECAUSE I AM ALSO OF RISHBHA LAGNA AND 5 PLTS IN

STATURN STR KATAKA AND MEENA PARIHARA SHOULD REACH Y WE NEED NOT

CHANSE THEM AS ADVICED BY MANY IF WE GET OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE CARE OF

SICK AND HELP POOR WE SHOULD IMMEDIATELY DO IT

OUT OF ALL THE MOST IMOIRTANT POINT WHICH Y HAVE SAID I AM SO SO HAPPY

THAT THE LORD OF 8TH GIVES TURNING POINT IN LIFE AND WHICH IS

IRREVERSIBLE GREAT GREAT EVERY BODY MUST HAVE EXPERIENCED

8 THE LORD IS LORD OF UNEXPECTED THINGS WHICH WE CANNOT IMAGINE AND IT

IS BLIND CURVE PLANETS PARTICULARLY IN CORNER HOUSES UPAYA RASIS

MITHUNA MEENA DHANUS AND VIRGO AND THE PLANETS GURU SUN MARS WHICH

HAVE STARS BROKEN IN TWO HOUSES EG KRITHIKA SUN LORD OF STAR HAVE

STARS IN RISHBHA AND MESHA WILL DEFINITELY MAKE CHANGES IN LIFE IN THE

BEGINNING OF BUKTHI IN STAR OF THE DASA GENERALLY

SATURN IN 7TH HOUSE IS NOTFAULT ONLY SUN AND KETHU IS BASIC FAULT IN

HORS IN MARRIAGE BECAUASE VENUS KARAGHA FOR MARRIAGE IS AN INTIMATE

FRIEND OF SATURN AND RAGHU AND MERCURY THE DEAD ENEMY OF VENUS

JUPITER AND SUN ONLY GIVE MUCH TROUBLE IN MARRIAGE WHEN THEY ARE IN

7TH HOUSE AS I SEE JUPITER WHEEVER LOC ATED THE HOUSE IS PROBLEM SINCE

IT IS NEECHA IN KARMA STHANA AND IT IS 9TH LORD THE 8TH OF 2ND HOUSE

THE MOST IMPORTANT HOUSE OF FINANCFE SPEECH AND FAMILY AND 12TH HOUSE

THE NEGATION TO LAGNA OF THE KALAPURHSHA IN KALIYUGHA WE CAN DEPEND ON

VENUS RAGHU (FORIEGN ) MERCURY COMMUNICATION SATURN HARD WORK AND MARS

THE BOLD MAN WITH ENERGY INSTEAD OF JUPITER THE DIVINITY AND THE SUN

THE GOVT. AND AND PEOPLE CONNECTED TO GOVT. AND KETHU THE SADHUS AND

SANYASIS ANY PLANET CONNECTED TO JUPITER AND KETHU IN KALIYUGHA BECOME

NOT MUCH HELPFUL IN KALIYUGHAS IF Y ANALYSE THE KARAGHAS PRACTICALLY

THANK Y SIR I MAY BE WRONG IN MY EXPRESSION MEMBERS EXECUSE ME THIS IS

WHAT I SEE FROM MY EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE

THANK AND WARM RREGARDS AND GOOD WISHES FOR A HAPPY AND PROSPERIOUS

NEW YEAR sairaman53

-- In , "Satya Sai Kolachina"

<skolachi wrote:

>

> Dear Sri Chandrasekhar (and others),

>

> I would like to share the following details of my own horoscope, for

> the benefit of fellow astrologers.

>

> You were right in asserting that Saturn in the 7th gives strength in

> general, and if it is his own or exaltation sign, he also gives Sasa

> Maha Purusha Yoga. I have this combination in my own horoscope,

> Saturn in 7th in Capricorn. I am listing down here, the influences

> of Saturn as felt by me during my life so far.

>

> - I got married at very right age (around 24 yrs) and hence cannot

> be said as late marriage.

> - I have a very happy and stable marriage for over 20 years so far

> and is continuing.

> - I neither have intention or desire or need to have another

> marriage.

> - Both myself and my wife are spiritually oriented and strictly self-

> disciplined

> - We have three children, two daughters and a son.

> - All our children have prominent Saturn in their horoscopes, a

> property inherited from parents' horoscopes.

> - Except minor health problems common to a majority of people, both

> my wife and I are healthy

> - All my educational and professional achievements were/are during

> Saturn periods.

> - I got my academic achievement in one of the premier institutions

> of India, IIT Kharagpur.

>

> Specific influences of Saturn:

> ------------

> - Saturn gave me directional strength, which (as quoted by an

> experienced astrologer) means he directs the events in my life (or

> steers/guides the direction of my life).

> - I love old people, talking and spending time with old people. In

> public gatherings, I spend more time with old people, and spend less

> time with younger generation particularly those who look or act or

> talk modern (with a very cheap opinion on traditions). It is just my

> characteristic.

> - I do not personally like those people, who ignore old people, and

> those ignore traditional practices. Such is the influence of Saturn

> (from 7th house) on my Lagna.

> - I have been branded in my friends' circle, as an orthodox person

> and not willing to accept modern practices. Yes, I am orthodox and I

> value traditional practices very much. I do not accept a change

> unless the change is inevitable, or is really worthy. I do not run

> (or race) with the technology, as far as implementing technology to

> myself. Though, I am myself a technical person and do a lot of

> contribution to the field of technology. Saturn is a technical

> planet and gave me higher education in technology only, I am

> Engineer from IIT Kharagpur.

> - I am extremely hardworking, as made by Saturn by his aspect on my

> lagna, as well as Saturn is in the nakshathra of Lagna Lord Moon

> (Sravanam nakshathram). Strangely there is a kind of parivarthana,

> with Lagna being in the nakshathram of Saturn (Pushyami nakshatram).

> - I love people who put hard-work for growth, rather than those who

> dream of a dawn of fortune overnight.

> - I am irritated by any system that is either inconvenient to

> general masses (or public), or something that seems doing injustice

> to masses - notice that Saturn represents masses and I have this

> influence very much in myself.

> - Most turning points in my life occurred during periods of Saturn -

> also note that Saturn is my 8th lord, and 8th lord brings drastic

> and irreversible changes (which I call as turning points in my life).

> - Saturn in 7th gives a very balanced thinking mind; kind of

> applying justice in many directions. Everything before I do, I check

> from different directions; whether my action was going to cause

> injustice to any section of people.

> - Generally people love to (or attracted to) interact with me

> (generally all categories of people), but particularly old people.

> Such is the attraction of people with Saturn aspecting lagna (and

> also lagna lord) and in a kind of parivarthana yoga with lagna as

> mentioned above.

> - The only malefic incident that happened in my life was, that my

> wife had a terrible car accident in one Saturn antardasha (a few yrs

> ago), but finally everything ended normal without any loss of life

> to anyone involved - some financial loss, which is of course typical

> of such an event.

> - You were right in saying that Saturn gives good results when he is

> stronger (than weaker). Strangely, Saturn is a malefic for Karkataka

> lagna, but due his sterngth in my horoscope, he gave me spectacular

> results.

>

> Bottom line:

> ------------------

> - Saturn in the 7th is not an easy thing to cope with; but once we

> do; we see the best side of life (and shine like a diamond) and I

> term it as a boon, and not a curse, particularly, if it is his own

> house or exaltation sign.

>

> For my own reasons, I do not wish to share more details of my

> horoscope; sharing just Saturn-specific results only to add my

> experiences to this thread.

>

> Best regards.

> Satya Sai Kolachina

>

> , Chandrashekhar

> <chandrashekhar46@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ramapriya,

> >

> > I agree that a principle should be tested on numerous charts

> before one

> > accepts it.

> >

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > D Ramapriya wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > >

> > > I agree. It's also one of the reasons why the oft-maligned

> Saturn

> > > exalts in

> > > the 7th of the natural zodiac.

> > >

> > > My demur however is in establishing set-in-stone inferences from

> just one

> > > planetary position to the apparent exclusion of all else. The

> ones more

> > > learned may indeed be correct but as of now, I'd prefer to test

> the

> > > principle over as many cases I can lay my hands on.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Ramapriya

> > >

> > > On 1/2/07, Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46@

> > > <chandrashekhar46%40.co.uk>> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ramapriya,

> > > > I think the logic of this yoga is that Saturn gets directional

> strength

> > > > in the 7th house and has a tendency to protect the house it

> occupies or

> > > > at the very least not harming the house. Saturn is also said

> to give

> > > > least troubles or even good results the stronger it is unlike

> other Papa

> > > > grahas.

> > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > >

> > >

January 4, 2007

Dear Sri Sairamanji,

Thanks for expressing your opinion and I regard your experience. I

just shared my own experiences and personally believe that those

having strong Saturn (particularly in a kendra) will have slow and

steady growth (since Saturn is a slow moving planet) but whatever

they gain (Saturnian experience) will last forever.

Best regards,

Satya Sai Kolachina

, "n.sairaman" <sairaman53

wrote:

>

> -GOOD MORNING SIR THIS IS SAIRAMAN FROM CHENNAI 4TH JAN 2007 6 30

AM

>

> YR MSG AND YR DESCRIPTION VERY NICE SIR

>

> SERVICE TO HUMAN IS SERVICE TO GOD SERVICE AND CARING FOR SICK

AND

> OLD THE BEST PARIHARA FOR SATURN AND THESATURN IS THE KARAGHA FOR

OLD

> SICK DOWN TRODDEN AND POOR MASSES OF THE WORLD INSTEAD OF GOING TO

> TEMPLES SPENDING HUGE HARD EARNED MONEYIN HUNDI ABHISHEGAM ETC

> LEAVING ALL OLD AND SICK BEHIND

>

> WHY I SAY THIS BECAUSE I AM ALSO OF RISHBHA LAGNA AND 5 PLTS IN

> STATURN STR KATAKA AND MEENA PARIHARA SHOULD REACH Y WE NEED NOT

> CHANSE THEM AS ADVICED BY MANY IF WE GET OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE CARE

OF

> SICK AND HELP POOR WE SHOULD IMMEDIATELY DO IT

>

> OUT OF ALL THE MOST IMOIRTANT POINT WHICH Y HAVE SAID I AM SO SO

HAPPY

> THAT THE LORD OF 8TH GIVES TURNING POINT IN LIFE AND WHICH IS

> IRREVERSIBLE GREAT GREAT EVERY BODY MUST HAVE EXPERIENCED

>

> 8 THE LORD IS LORD OF UNEXPECTED THINGS WHICH WE CANNOT IMAGINE

AND IT

> IS BLIND CURVE PLANETS PARTICULARLY IN CORNER HOUSES UPAYA RASIS

> MITHUNA MEENA DHANUS AND VIRGO AND THE PLANETS GURU SUN MARS WHICH

> HAVE STARS BROKEN IN TWO HOUSES EG KRITHIKA SUN LORD OF STAR HAVE

> STARS IN RISHBHA AND MESHA WILL DEFINITELY MAKE CHANGES IN LIFE IN

THE

> BEGINNING OF BUKTHI IN STAR OF THE DASA GENERALLY

>

> SATURN IN 7TH HOUSE IS NOTFAULT ONLY SUN AND KETHU IS BASIC FAULT

IN

> HORS IN MARRIAGE BECAUASE VENUS KARAGHA FOR MARRIAGE IS AN INTIMATE

> FRIEND OF SATURN AND RAGHU AND MERCURY THE DEAD ENEMY OF VENUS

> JUPITER AND SUN ONLY GIVE MUCH TROUBLE IN MARRIAGE WHEN THEY ARE IN

> 7TH HOUSE AS I SEE JUPITER WHEEVER LOC ATED THE HOUSE IS PROBLEM

SINCE

> IT IS NEECHA IN KARMA STHANA AND IT IS 9TH LORD THE 8TH OF 2ND

HOUSE

> THE MOST IMPORTANT HOUSE OF FINANCFE SPEECH AND FAMILY AND 12TH

HOUSE

> THE NEGATION TO LAGNA OF THE KALAPURHSHA IN KALIYUGHA WE CAN

DEPEND ON

> VENUS RAGHU (FORIEGN ) MERCURY COMMUNICATION SATURN HARD WORK AND

MARS

> THE BOLD MAN WITH ENERGY INSTEAD OF JUPITER THE DIVINITY AND THE

SUN

> THE GOVT. AND AND PEOPLE CONNECTED TO GOVT. AND KETHU THE SADHUS

AND

> SANYASIS ANY PLANET CONNECTED TO JUPITER AND KETHU IN KALIYUGHA

BECOME

> NOT MUCH HELPFUL IN KALIYUGHAS IF Y ANALYSE THE KARAGHAS

PRACTICALLY

>

> THANK Y SIR I MAY BE WRONG IN MY EXPRESSION MEMBERS EXECUSE ME

THIS IS

> WHAT I SEE FROM MY EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE

>

> THANK AND WARM RREGARDS AND GOOD WISHES FOR A HAPPY AND PROSPERIOUS

> NEW YEAR sairaman53

>

> -- In , "Satya Sai Kolachina"

> <skolachi@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sri Chandrasekhar (and others),

> >

> > I would like to share the following details of my own horoscope,

for

> > the benefit of fellow astrologers.

> >

> > You were right in asserting that Saturn in the 7th gives

strength in

> > general, and if it is his own or exaltation sign, he also gives

Sasa

> > Maha Purusha Yoga. I have this combination in my own horoscope,

> > Saturn in 7th in Capricorn. I am listing down here, the

influences

> > of Saturn as felt by me during my life so far.

> >

> > - I got married at very right age (around 24 yrs) and hence

cannot

> > be said as late marriage.

> > - I have a very happy and stable marriage for over 20 years so

far

> > and is continuing.

> > - I neither have intention or desire or need to have another

> > marriage.

> > - Both myself and my wife are spiritually oriented and strictly

self-

> > disciplined

> > - We have three children, two daughters and a son.

> > - All our children have prominent Saturn in their horoscopes, a

> > property inherited from parents' horoscopes.

> > - Except minor health problems common to a majority of people,

both

> > my wife and I are healthy

> > - All my educational and professional achievements were/are

during

> > Saturn periods.

> > - I got my academic achievement in one of the premier

institutions

> > of India, IIT Kharagpur.

> >

> > Specific influences of Saturn:

> > ------------

> > - Saturn gave me directional strength, which (as quoted by an

> > experienced astrologer) means he directs the events in my life

(or

> > steers/guides the direction of my life).

> > - I love old people, talking and spending time with old people.

In

> > public gatherings, I spend more time with old people, and spend

less

> > time with younger generation particularly those who look or act

or

> > talk modern (with a very cheap opinion on traditions). It is

just my

> > characteristic.

> > - I do not personally like those people, who ignore old people,

and

> > those ignore traditional practices. Such is the influence of

Saturn

> > (from 7th house) on my Lagna.

> > - I have been branded in my friends' circle, as an orthodox

person

> > and not willing to accept modern practices. Yes, I am orthodox

and I

> > value traditional practices very much. I do not accept a change

> > unless the change is inevitable, or is really worthy. I do not

run

> > (or race) with the technology, as far as implementing technology

to

> > myself. Though, I am myself a technical person and do a lot of

> > contribution to the field of technology. Saturn is a technical

> > planet and gave me higher education in technology only, I am

> > Engineer from IIT Kharagpur.

> > - I am extremely hardworking, as made by Saturn by his aspect on

my

> > lagna, as well as Saturn is in the nakshathra of Lagna Lord Moon

> > (Sravanam nakshathram). Strangely there is a kind of

parivarthana,

> > with Lagna being in the nakshathram of Saturn (Pushyami

nakshatram).

> > - I love people who put hard-work for growth, rather than those

who

> > dream of a dawn of fortune overnight.

> > - I am irritated by any system that is either inconvenient to

> > general masses (or public), or something that seems doing

injustice

> > to masses - notice that Saturn represents masses and I have this

> > influence very much in myself.

> > - Most turning points in my life occurred during periods of

Saturn -

> > also note that Saturn is my 8th lord, and 8th lord brings

drastic

> > and irreversible changes (which I call as turning points in my

life).

> > - Saturn in 7th gives a very balanced thinking mind; kind of

> > applying justice in many directions. Everything before I do, I

check

> > from different directions; whether my action was going to cause

> > injustice to any section of people.

> > - Generally people love to (or attracted to) interact with me

> > (generally all categories of people), but particularly old

people.

> > Such is the attraction of people with Saturn aspecting lagna

(and

> > also lagna lord) and in a kind of parivarthana yoga with lagna

as

> > mentioned above.

> > - The only malefic incident that happened in my life was, that

my

> > wife had a terrible car accident in one Saturn antardasha (a few

yrs

> > ago), but finally everything ended normal without any loss of

life

> > to anyone involved - some financial loss, which is of course

typical

> > of such an event.

> > - You were right in saying that Saturn gives good results when

he is

> > stronger (than weaker). Strangely, Saturn is a malefic for

Karkataka

> > lagna, but due his sterngth in my horoscope, he gave me

spectacular

> > results.

> >

> > Bottom line:

> > ------------------

> > - Saturn in the 7th is not an easy thing to cope with; but once

we

> > do; we see the best side of life (and shine like a diamond) and

I

> > term it as a boon, and not a curse, particularly, if it is his

own

> > house or exaltation sign.

> >

> > For my own reasons, I do not wish to share more details of my

> > horoscope; sharing just Saturn-specific results only to add my

> > experiences to this thread.

> >

> > Best regards.

> > Satya Sai Kolachina

> >

> > , Chandrashekhar

> > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ramapriya,

> > >

> > > I agree that a principle should be tested on numerous charts

> > before one

> > > accepts it.

> > >

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > D Ramapriya wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > >

> > > > I agree. It's also one of the reasons why the oft-maligned

> > Saturn

> > > > exalts in

> > > > the 7th of the natural zodiac.

> > > >

> > > > My demur however is in establishing set-in-stone inferences

from

> > just one

> > > > planetary position to the apparent exclusion of all else.

The

> > ones more

> > > > learned may indeed be correct but as of now, I'd prefer to

test

> > the

> > > > principle over as many cases I can lay my hands on.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Ramapriya

> > > >

> > > > On 1/2/07, Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46@

> > > > <chandrashekhar46%40.co.uk>> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ramapriya,

> > > > > I think the logic of this yoga is that Saturn gets

directional

> > strength

> > > > > in the 7th house and has a tendency to protect the house

it

> > occupies or

> > > > > at the very least not harming the house. Saturn is also

said

> > to give

> > > > > least troubles or even good results the stronger it is

unlike

> > other Papa

> > > > > grahas.

> > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > >

> > > >

January 4, 2007

I am not an atrologer at all, but the wife of one!

I would say that astrology can not really work well with statistics because though a combination or yoga may exist in many charts there is still the REST of the horoscope that would affect it.

Mandakini

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aphoton47

Thursday, January 04, 2007 10:07 AM

Re: What effect will Shani give in 7 th house ,in Capricon ascendent(shani is lo

Ramapriya,

How did you compile your 4,000 chart database? Did you purchase the

data from Astrodatabank?

I find that it is very difficult to prove the validity of astrology

with statistics. It works in individual instances but it is very

difficult to generalize.

For every horoscope where an astrological combination works, there are

scores where the it fails completely. Any thoughts from list members?

--Radha

, "D Ramapriya" <ramapriya.d

wrote:

>

> On 1/4/07, aphoton47 <aphoton wrote:

> >

> > >There's one more chart of a famous Belfast native who died decades

> > >ago, in

> > >case you're interested.

> >

> > Ramapriya,

> >

> > Indeed, I am. Thank you.

> >

> > --Radha

> >

>

> Dear Radha,

>

> My bad. That person was an Aquarius native... but here's one that

fits the

> bill: Born Birmingham (UK) at 10.05 am on Dec 30, 1947. Another

respected

> rock star and a very similar story to Goble's except that this one's

been

> only divorced once

>

> You and this thread inspire me to categorize my 4000-odd chart database

> usefully

>

> Cheers,

>

> Ramapriya

>

January 4, 2007

i like the biriyani analogy

very nice

-

Bhaskar

Thursday, January 04, 2007 12:31 PM

Re: What effect will Shani give in 7 th house ,in Capricon ascendent(shani is lo

//Well, that's exactly why I find it hard to understand that person

after person keeps popping what-when scenarios based on some isolated

planetary combinations expecting infallible prognoses. It's insane

not to view a chart holistically//

Well said and beautiful English Rampriyaji.

Such persons actually contribute to a lot of waste of time.It

would be like asking the meaning of how a particular proportion

of salt would work in a vegetable Biriyani (Rice preparation),

without taking into account the other spices and ingredients.

regards,

Bhaskar.

, "D Ramapriya" <ramapriya.d

wrote:

>

> On 1/4/07, aphoton47 <aphoton wrote:

> >

> > Ramapriya,

> >

> > How did you compile your 4,000 chart database? Did you purchase

the

> > data from Astrodatabank?

> >

>

> Nope, an acquaintance gave it to me.

>

> I find that it is very difficult to prove the validity of astrology

> > with statistics. It works in individual instances but it is very

> > difficult to generalize.

> >

>

> Not sure I understand what you're saying. If astrology is to find

acceptance

> as a science and emerge from rationalists' sniggers, it should in

theory

> stand every test.

>

> For every horoscope where an astrological combination works, there

are

> > scores where the it fails completely. Any thoughts from list

members?

> >

>

> Well, that's exactly why I find it hard to understand that person

after

> person keeps popping what-when scenarios based on some isolated

planetary

> combinations expecting infallible prognoses. It's insane not to

view a chart

> holistically.

>

> Cheers,

>

> Ramapriya

>

January 4, 2007

Ramapriya,

Speaking of a large chart database, do you have the chart of the

writer R.K. Narayan?

--Radha

, "D Ramapriya" <ramapriya.d

wrote:

>

> On 1/4/07, aphoton47 <aphoton wrote:

> >

> > >There's one more chart of a famous Belfast native who died decades

> > >ago, in

> > >case you're interested.

> >

> > Ramapriya,

> >

> > Indeed, I am. Thank you.

> >

> > --Radha

> >

>

> Dear Radha,

>

> My bad. That person was an Aquarius native... but here's one that

fits the

> bill: Born Birmingham (UK) at 10.05 am on Dec 30, 1947. Another

respected

> rock star and a very similar story to Goble's except that this one's

been

> only divorced once

>

> You and this thread inspire me to categorize my 4000-odd chart database

> usefully

>

> Cheers,

>

> Ramapriya

>

January 4, 2007

Ramapriya,

How did you compile your 4,000 chart database? Did you purchase the

data from Astrodatabank?

I find that it is very difficult to prove the validity of astrology

with statistics. It works in individual instances but it is very

difficult to generalize.

For every horoscope where an astrological combination works, there are

scores where the it fails completely. Any thoughts from list members?

--Radha

, "D Ramapriya" <ramapriya.d

wrote:

>

> On 1/4/07, aphoton47 <aphoton wrote:

> >

> > >There's one more chart of a famous Belfast native who died decades

> > >ago, in

> > >case you're interested.

> >

> > Ramapriya,

> >

> > Indeed, I am. Thank you.

> >

> > --Radha

> >

>

> Dear Radha,

>

> My bad. That person was an Aquarius native... but here's one that

fits the

> bill: Born Birmingham (UK) at 10.05 am on Dec 30, 1947. Another

respected

> rock star and a very similar story to Goble's except that this one's

been

> only divorced once

>

> You and this thread inspire me to categorize my 4000-odd chart database

> usefully

>

> Cheers,

>

> Ramapriya

>

January 4, 2007

ramapriya,

Thank you. Do you happen to have a source for the data?

--Radha Shenoy

, "D Ramapriya" <ramapriya.d

wrote:

>

> On 1/4/07, aphoton47 <aphoton wrote:

> >

> > Ramapriya,

> >

> > Speaking of a large chart database, do you have the chart of the

> > writer R.K. Narayan?

> >

> > --Radha

> >

>

> Born Oct 10 1906 @ Chennai (then Madras) @ 16.03. That could well be LMT

> although the rasi lagna doesn't change.

>

> Hope this helps,

> Ramapriya

>

January 4, 2007

Dear Radha ,

Agree with you . One cannot use statistics with astrology . This is one area where the sample space is more than the entire population .

Regards ,

Anand

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aphoton47

Thursday, January 04, 2007 9:37 PM

Re: What effect will Shani give in 7 th house ,in Capricon ascendent(shani is lo

Ramapriya,

How did you compile your 4,000 chart database? Did you purchase the

data from Astrodatabank?

I find that it is very difficult to prove the validity of astrology

with statistics. It works in individual instances but it is very

difficult to generalize.

For every horoscope where an astrological combination works, there are

scores where the it fails completely. Any thoughts from list members?

--Radha

, "D Ramapriya" <ramapriya.d

wrote:

>

> On 1/4/07, aphoton47 <aphoton wrote:

> >

> > >There's one more chart of a famous Belfast native who died decades

> > >ago, in

> > >case you're interested.

> >

> > Ramapriya,

> >

> > Indeed, I am. Thank you.

> >

> > --Radha

> >

>

> Dear Radha,

>

> My bad. That person was an Aquarius native... but here's one that

fits the

> bill: Born Birmingham (UK) at 10.05 am on Dec 30, 1947. Another

respected

> rock star and a very similar story to Goble's except that this one's

been

> only divorced once

>

> You and this thread inspire me to categorize my 4000-odd chart database

> usefully

>

> Cheers,

>

.

January 4, 2007

Dear Satya,

You are right, being Manda (the slow one) his effects are slow but

certain and long lasting.

Chandrashekhar.

Satya Sai Kolachina wrote: