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My Queries

 

1.It is said Planets in 7th and 12th from UL Will Oppose Marriage so

if There is a planet like rahu we say foreigner and what abt Ketu in

7th from UL ??????????

2.Suppose if there are no Planets in 7th from UL can we take the lord

of 7th from UL as Opposing ?????????????

3.Guru ji Sanjay rath in one of lecture has said 7th house in navamsa

for spouse attitude Then if i have Guru and Mangala in 7th House in

Navamsa it becomes Guru Mangala Yoga is That Good bec Guru in 7th in

navamsa with mars Sanjay ji has said They will get Lucky Spouse ??????????

4.For me AK IS SUN IS NEECHA IN RASI AND EXALTED IN NAVAMSA IN 6TH

UPACHAYA BHAVA WHETHER IT IS GOOD

 

5.can we believe That rahu as Atmakaraka Spouse will be Good and wont

cheat us Generally asking Since i have heard rahu as atma means They

will get cheated more and will be Good in heart and Spiritual is that

true?????

Thanking u

prathosh

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vyam vyasadevaya namah

Dear Pratosh,

 

Answers below.

 

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

 

-

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Monday, January 01, 2007 6:49 PM

[Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me Hare Krishna

 

 

My Queries

 

1.It is said Planets in 7th and 12th from UL Will Oppose Marriage so

if There is a planet like rahu we say foreigner and what abt Ketu in

7th from UL ??????????

 

[rafal] rahu is foreigner but ketu can show other tradition within same country. ketu represents unpredictable, spontaneous and often antagonist of social rules. rahu in seventh from upapada indicate spiritual spouse especially after 45..in those cases kids and ganapati puja are important.

 

Seventh bhava means opposition, but 12H bhava can mean that You dont have contact with that specific person from inlaw side. (taking al as lagna here)

 

 

2.Suppose if there are no Planets in 7th from UL can we take the lord

of 7th from UL as Opposing ?????????????

 

[rafal] You can. Sanjay therefore says that upapada in capricorn is bad. You should know why..

 

 

3.Guru ji Sanjay rath in one of lecture has said 7th house in navamsa

for spouse attitude Then if i have Guru and Mangala in 7th House in

Navamsa it becomes Guru Mangala Yoga is That Good bec Guru in 7th in

navamsa with mars Sanjay ji has said They will get Lucky Spouse ??????????\

 

[rafal] This means that spouse should digest emotion of these grahas. Attitude is connected to choices (dhi sakti - jupiter - paka lagna) so Saptamesh would tell more..but its issue with definitions. Jupiter gives spouse with controlled senses (all classics says that). Mangal in seventh can give person without limbs or with scars (i believe bphs). First spouse of native should share traits of Guru and Mangal (attraction to spiritual literature and kantaka yuddha (JS) - fight abilities, this can also shows engineering).. Mangal as agni tattwa with Jupiter often gives Jyotisha but Sanjay wrote in one article that Rahu signifies Jyotisha..anyway hope I answered Your question..being mithuna Lagna - so many cases are rising throughout answering...

 

 

 

4.For me AK IS SUN IS NEECHA IN RASI AND EXALTED IN NAVAMSA IN 6TH

UPACHAYA BHAVA WHETHER IT IS GOOD

 

[rafal] jataka parijata says that first we see effect in rasi, then navamsa. malefics deb in dushtana are good as enemy is destroyed..sun in sixth is good...ak in sixth can show many vices or attraction for the same..being sun you cant admit it/recognize it. om vishnave namah - six letters..

 

5.can we believe That rahu as Atmakaraka Spouse will be Good and wont

cheat us Generally asking Since i have heard rahu as atma means They

will get cheated more and will be Good in heart and Spiritual is that

true?????

 

[rafal] you cant judge person by one yoga.

 

 

 

 

Thanking u

prathosh

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Dear Rafal.......why is UL in capricorn bad? In what context? This

is a rule or is it subjective?

 

 

regards

Aru

 

, "Rafal Gendarz"

<starsuponme wrote:

>

> vyam vyasadevaya namah

> Dear Pratosh,

>

> Answers below.

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> -

> prathoshg

>

> Monday, January 01, 2007 6:49 PM

> [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me

Hare Krishna

>

>

> My Queries

>

> 1.It is said Planets in 7th and 12th from UL Will Oppose

Marriage so

> if There is a planet like rahu we say foreigner and what abt

Ketu in

> 7th from UL ??????????

>

> [rafal] rahu is foreigner but ketu can show other tradition

within same country. ketu represents unpredictable, spontaneous and

often antagonist of social rules. rahu in seventh from upapada

indicate spiritual spouse especially after 45..in those cases kids

and ganapati puja are important.

>

> Seventh bhava means opposition, but 12H bhava can mean that You

dont have contact with that specific person from inlaw side. (taking

al as lagna here)

>

>

> 2.Suppose if there are no Planets in 7th from UL can we take the

lord

> of 7th from UL as Opposing ?????????????

>

> [rafal] You can. Sanjay therefore says that upapada in capricorn

is bad. You should know why..

>

>

> 3.Guru ji Sanjay rath in one of lecture has said 7th house in

navamsa

> for spouse attitude Then if i have Guru and Mangala in 7th House

in

> Navamsa it becomes Guru Mangala Yoga is That Good bec Guru in

7th in

> navamsa with mars Sanjay ji has said They will get Lucky

Spouse ??????????\

>

> [rafal] This means that spouse should digest emotion of these

grahas. Attitude is connected to choices (dhi sakti - jupiter - paka

lagna) so Saptamesh would tell more..but its issue with definitions.

Jupiter gives spouse with controlled senses (all classics says

that). Mangal in seventh can give person without limbs or with scars

(i believe bphs). First spouse of native should share traits of Guru

and Mangal (attraction to spiritual literature and kantaka yuddha

(JS) - fight abilities, this can also shows engineering). Mangal as

agni tattwa with Jupiter often gives Jyotisha but Sanjay wrote in

one article that Rahu signifies Jyotisha..anyway hope I answered

Your question..being mithuna Lagna - so many cases are rising

throughout answering..

>

>

>

> 4.For me AK IS SUN IS NEECHA IN RASI AND EXALTED IN NAVAMSA IN

6TH

> UPACHAYA BHAVA WHETHER IT IS GOOD

>

> [rafal] jataka parijata says that first we see effect in rasi,

then navamsa. malefics deb in dushtana are good as enemy is

destroyed..sun in sixth is good...ak in sixth can show many vices or

attraction for the same..being sun you cant admit it/recognize it.

om vishnave namah - six letters..

>

> 5.can we believe That rahu as Atmakaraka Spouse will be Good and

wont

> cheat us Generally asking Since i have heard rahu as atma means

They

> will get cheated more and will be Good in heart and Spiritual is

that

> true?????

>

> [rafal] you cant judge person by one yoga.

>

>

>

>

> Thanking u

> prathosh

>

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Dear Arvind,

UL in Capricon means the 7th is Cancer and its Lord is Moon. So, the mother-law will become the villain.

Hope Rafalji had this in mind.

Regards

Ravi Nair

 

Aravinda <aru_dulla > wrote:

Dear Rafal.......why is UL in capricorn bad? In what context? This

is a rule or is it subjective?

 

regards

Aru

 

, "Rafal Gendarz"

<starsuponme wrote:

>

> vyam vyasadevaya namah

> Dear Pratosh,

>

> Answers below.

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> -

> prathoshg

>

> Monday, January 01, 2007 6:49 PM

> [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me

Hare Krishna

>

>

> My Queries

>

> 1.It is said Planets in 7th and 12th from UL Will Oppose

Marriage so

> if There is a planet like rahu we say foreigner and what abt

Ketu in

> 7th from UL ??????????

>

> [rafal] rahu is foreigner but ketu can show other tradition

within same country. ketu represents unpredictable, spontaneous and

often antagonist of social rules. rahu in seventh from upapada

indicate spiritual spouse especially after 45..in those cases kids

and ganapati puja are important.

>

> Seventh bhava means opposition, but 12H bhava can mean that You

dont have contact with that specific person from inlaw side. (taking

al as lagna here)

>

>

> 2.Suppose if there are no Planets in 7th from UL can we take the

lord

> of 7th from UL as Opposing ?????????????

>

> [rafal] You can. Sanjay therefore says that upapada in capricorn

is bad. You should know why..

>

>

> 3.Guru ji Sanjay rath in one of lecture has said 7th house in

navamsa

> for spouse attitude Then if i have Guru and Mangala in 7th House

in

> Navamsa it becomes Guru Mangala Yoga is That Good bec Guru in

7th in

> navamsa with mars Sanjay ji has said They will get Lucky

Spouse ??????????\

>

> [rafal] This means that spouse should digest emotion of these

grahas. Attitude is connected to choices (dhi sakti - jupiter - paka

lagna) so Saptamesh would tell more..but its issue with definitions.

Jupiter gives spouse with controlled senses (all classics says

that). Mangal in seventh can give person without limbs or with scars

(i believe bphs). First spouse of native should share traits of Guru

and Mangal (attraction to spiritual literature and kantaka yuddha

(JS) - fight abilities, this can also shows engineering). Mangal as

agni tattwa with Jupiter often gives Jyotisha but Sanjay wrote in

one article that Rahu signifies Jyotisha..anyway hope I answered

Your question..being mithuna Lagna - so many cases are rising

throughout answering..

>

>

>

> 4.For me AK IS SUN IS NEECHA IN RASI AND EXALTED IN NAVAMSA IN

6TH

> UPACHAYA BHAVA WHETHER IT IS GOOD

>

> [rafal] jataka parijata says that first we see effect in rasi,

then navamsa. malefics deb in dushtana are good as enemy is

destroyed..sun in sixth is good...ak in sixth can show many vices or

attraction for the same..being sun you cant admit it/recognize it.

om vishnave namah - six letters..

>

> 5.can we believe That rahu as Atmakaraka Spouse will be Good and

wont

> cheat us Generally asking Since i have heard rahu as atma means

They

> will get cheated more and will be Good in heart and Spiritual is

that

> true?????

>

> [rafal] you cant judge person by one yoga.

>

>

>

>

> Thanking u

> prathosh

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Ravi ji,

 

How about when the mother-in-law is dead already?

 

Rafal ji,

 

I am very curious to discover why UL in Capricon is bad as well, since I have my UL in Capricon, but I also have my AL in Capricon, and both Saturn and Ketu are placed in my UL and AL. But I have Venus and Rahu in yuti in 7th from my UL and AL, which is Cancer. And my moon is in Revati in 12 house in rashi.

 

Its interesting, when Vistiji looked at my chart, he said that Venus yuti with Rahu in 7th from UL meant that my husband will have jealous ex-girlfriends.

 

Looking forward to your comments,

 

Best wishes to all in 2007,

ND

 

"A. Ravindran Nair" <rain13club > wrote:

Dear Arvind,

UL in Capricon means the 7th is Cancer and its Lord is Moon. So, the mother-law will become the villain.

Hope Rafalji had this in mind.

Regards

Ravi Nair

 

Aravinda <aru_dulla > wrote:

Dear Rafal.......why is UL in capricorn bad? In what context? This

is a rule or is it subjective?

 

regards

Aru

 

, "Rafal Gendarz"

<starsuponme wrote:

>

> vyam vyasadevaya namah

> Dear Pratosh,

>

> Answers below.

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> -

> prathoshg

>

> Monday, January 01, 2007 6:49 PM

> [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me

Hare Krishna

>

>

> My Queries

>

> 1.It is said Planets in 7th and 12th from UL Will Oppose

Marriage so

> if There is a planet like rahu we say foreigner and what abt

Ketu in

> 7th from UL ??????????

>

> [rafal] rahu is foreigner but ketu can show other tradition

within same country. ketu represents unpredictable, spontaneous and

often antagonist of social rules. rahu in seventh from upapada

indicate spiritual spouse especially after 45..in those cases kids

and ganapati puja are important.

>

> Seventh bhava means opposition, but 12H bhava can mean that You

dont have contact with that specific person from inlaw side. (taking

al as lagna here)

>

>

> 2.Suppose if there are no Planets in 7th from UL can we take the

lord

> of 7th from UL as Opposing ?????????????

>

> [rafal] You can. Sanjay therefore says that upapada in capricorn

is bad. You should know why..

>

>

> 3.Guru ji Sanjay rath in one of lecture has said 7th house in

navamsa

> for spouse attitude Then if i have Guru and Mangala in 7th House

in

> Navamsa it becomes Guru Mangala Yoga is That Good bec Guru in

7th in

> navamsa with mars Sanjay ji has said They will get Lucky

Spouse ??????????\

>

> [rafal] This means that spouse should digest emotion of these

grahas. Attitude is connected to choices (dhi sakti - jupiter - paka

lagna) so Saptamesh would tell more..but its issue with definitions.

Jupiter gives spouse with controlled senses (all classics says

that). Mangal in seventh can give person without limbs or with scars

(i believe bphs). First spouse of native should share traits of Guru

and Mangal (attraction to spiritual literature and kantaka yuddha

(JS) - fight abilities, this can also shows engineering). Mangal as

agni tattwa with Jupiter often gives Jyotisha but Sanjay wrote in

one article that Rahu signifies Jyotisha..anyway hope I answered

Your question..being mithuna Lagna - so many cases are rising

throughout answering..

>

>

>

> 4.For me AK IS SUN IS NEECHA IN RASI AND EXALTED IN NAVAMSA IN

6TH

> UPACHAYA BHAVA WHETHER IT IS GOOD

>

> [rafal] jataka parijata says that first we see effect in rasi,

then navamsa. malefics deb in dushtana are good as enemy is

destroyed..sun in sixth is good...ak in sixth can show many vices or

attraction for the same..being sun you cant admit it/recognize it.

om vishnave namah - six letters..

>

> 5.can we believe That rahu as Atmakaraka Spouse will be Good and

wont

> cheat us Generally asking Since i have heard rahu as atma means

They

> will get cheated more and will be Good in heart and Spiritual is

that

> true?????

>

> [rafal] you cant judge person by one yoga.

>

>

>

>

> Thanking u

> prathosh

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Rafalji,

1. What about obstructions from one's own family members ? how do we see

that?

2. if the 7th lord and Ul lord is placed in 6th from venus , while venus is

itslef in MKS what results?

Swati

Namah Shivaya

On 1/2/07, ND <nadiadeol (AT) (DOT) ca> wrote:

>

> Dear Ravi ji,

>

> How about when the mother-in-law is dead already?

>

> Rafal ji,

>

> I am very curious to discover why UL in Capricon is bad as well, since I

> have my UL in Capricon, but I also have my AL in Capricon, and both Saturn

> and Ketu are placed in my UL and AL. But I have Venus and Rahu in yuti in

> 7th from my UL and AL, which is Cancer. And my moon is in Revati in 12 house

> in rashi.

>

> Its interesting, when Vistiji looked at my chart, he said that Venus yuti

> with Rahu in 7th from UL meant that my husband will have jealous

> ex-girlfriends.

>

> Looking forward to your comments,

>

> Best wishes to all in 2007,

> ND

>

>

> *"A. Ravindran Nair" <rain13club >* wrote:

>

> Dear Arvind,

>

> UL in Capricon means the 7th is Cancer and its Lord is Moon. So, the

> mother-law will become the villain.

>

> Hope Rafalji had this in mind.

>

> Regards

>

> Ravi Nair

>

>

> *Aravinda <aru_dulla >* wrote:

>

> Dear Rafal.......why is UL in capricorn bad? In what context? This

> is a rule or is it subjective?

>

> regards

> Aru

>

> <%40>,

> "Rafal Gendarz"

> <starsuponme wrote:

> >

> > vyam vyasadevaya namah

> > Dear Pratosh,

> >

> > Answers below.

> >

> > Regards

> > Rafal Gendarz

> >

> > -

> > prathoshg

> > <%40>

> > Monday, January 01, 2007 6:49 PM

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me

> Hare Krishna

> >

> >

> > My Queries

> >

> > 1.It is said Planets in 7th and 12th from UL Will Oppose

> Marriage so

> > if There is a planet like rahu we say foreigner and what abt

> Ketu in

> > 7th from UL ??????????

> >

> > [rafal] rahu is foreigner but ketu can show other tradition

> within same country. ketu represents unpredictable, spontaneous and

> often antagonist of social rules. rahu in seventh from upapada

> indicate spiritual spouse especially after 45..in those cases kids

> and ganapati puja are important.

> >

> > Seventh bhava means opposition, but 12H bhava can mean that You

> dont have contact with that specific person from inlaw side. (taking

> al as lagna here)

> >

> >

> > 2.Suppose if there are no Planets in 7th from UL can we take the

> lord

> > of 7th from UL as Opposing ?????????????

> >

> > [rafal] You can. Sanjay therefore says that upapada in capricorn

> is bad. You should know why..

> >

> >

> > 3.Guru ji Sanjay rath in one of lecture has said 7th house in

> navamsa

> > for spouse attitude Then if i have Guru and Mangala in 7th House

> in

> > Navamsa it becomes Guru Mangala Yoga is That Good bec Guru in

> 7th in

> > navamsa with mars Sanjay ji has said They will get Lucky

> Spouse ??????????\

> >

> > [rafal] This means that spouse should digest emotion of these

> grahas. Attitude is connected to choices (dhi sakti - jupiter - paka

> lagna) so Saptamesh would tell more..but its issue with definitions.

> Jupiter gives spouse with controlled senses (all classics says

> that). Mangal in seventh can give person without limbs or with scars

> (i believe bphs). First spouse of native should share traits of Guru

> and Mangal (attraction to spiritual literature and kantaka yuddha

> (JS) - fight abilities, this can also shows engineering). Mangal as

> agni tattwa with Jupiter often gives Jyotisha but Sanjay wrote in

> one article that Rahu signifies Jyotisha..anyway hope I answered

> Your question..being mithuna Lagna - so many cases are rising

> throughout answering..

> >

> >

> >

> > 4.For me AK IS SUN IS NEECHA IN RASI AND EXALTED IN NAVAMSA IN

> 6TH

> > UPACHAYA BHAVA WHETHER IT IS GOOD

> >

> > [rafal] jataka parijata says that first we see effect in rasi,

> then navamsa. malefics deb in dushtana are good as enemy is

> destroyed..sun in sixth is good...ak in sixth can show many vices or

> attraction for the same..being sun you cant admit it/recognize it.

> om vishnave namah - six letters..

> >

> > 5.can we believe That rahu as Atmakaraka Spouse will be Good and

> wont

> > cheat us Generally asking Since i have heard rahu as atma means

> They

> > will get cheated more and will be Good in heart and Spiritual is

> that

> > true?????

> >

> > [rafal] you cant judge person by one yoga.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Thanking u

> > prathosh

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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hraum namah adityaya

Dear Aru, Namaskar

Its bad to have mother-in-law against You. HOWEVER Moon position can change this.

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

 

-

Aravinda

Tuesday, January 02, 2007 5:54 AM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me Hare Krishna

 

 

Dear Rafal.......why is UL in capricorn bad? In what context? This

is a rule or is it subjective?

 

regards

Aru

 

, "Rafal Gendarz"

<starsuponme wrote:

>

> vyam vyasadevaya namah

> Dear Pratosh,

>

> Answers below.

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> -

> prathoshg

>

> Monday, January 01, 2007 6:49 PM

> [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me

Hare Krishna

>

>

> My Queries

>

> 1.It is said Planets in 7th and 12th from UL Will Oppose

Marriage so

> if There is a planet like rahu we say foreigner and what abt

Ketu in

> 7th from UL ??????????

>

> [rafal] rahu is foreigner but ketu can show other tradition

within same country. ketu represents unpredictable, spontaneous and

often antagonist of social rules. rahu in seventh from upapada

indicate spiritual spouse especially after 45..in those cases kids

and ganapati puja are important.

>

> Seventh bhava means opposition, but 12H bhava can mean that You

dont have contact with that specific person from inlaw side. (taking

al as lagna here)

>

>

> 2.Suppose if there are no Planets in 7th from UL can we take the

lord

> of 7th from UL as Opposing ?????????????

>

> [rafal] You can. Sanjay therefore says that upapada in capricorn

is bad. You should know why..

>

>

> 3.Guru ji Sanjay rath in one of lecture has said 7th house in

navamsa

> for spouse attitude Then if i have Guru and Mangala in 7th House

in

> Navamsa it becomes Guru Mangala Yoga is That Good bec Guru in

7th in

> navamsa with mars Sanjay ji has said They will get Lucky

Spouse ??????????\

>

> [rafal] This means that spouse should digest emotion of these

grahas. Attitude is connected to choices (dhi sakti - jupiter - paka

lagna) so Saptamesh would tell more..but its issue with definitions.

Jupiter gives spouse with controlled senses (all classics says

that). Mangal in seventh can give person without limbs or with scars

(i believe bphs). First spouse of native should share traits of Guru

and Mangal (attraction to spiritual literature and kantaka yuddha

(JS) - fight abilities, this can also shows engineering). Mangal as

agni tattwa with Jupiter often gives Jyotisha but Sanjay wrote in

one article that Rahu signifies Jyotisha..anyway hope I answered

Your question..being mithuna Lagna - so many cases are rising

throughout answering..

>

>

>

> 4.For me AK IS SUN IS NEECHA IN RASI AND EXALTED IN NAVAMSA IN

6TH

> UPACHAYA BHAVA WHETHER IT IS GOOD

>

> [rafal] jataka parijata says that first we see effect in rasi,

then navamsa. malefics deb in dushtana are good as enemy is

destroyed..sun in sixth is good...ak in sixth can show many vices or

attraction for the same..being sun you cant admit it/recognize it.

om vishnave namah - six letters..

>

> 5.can we believe That rahu as Atmakaraka Spouse will be Good and

wont

> cheat us Generally asking Since i have heard rahu as atma means

They

> will get cheated more and will be Good in heart and Spiritual is

that

> true?????

>

> [rafal] you cant judge person by one yoga.

>

>

>

>

> Thanking u

> prathosh

>

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hraum namah adityaya

Dear ND,

comments below

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

 

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ND

Tuesday, January 02, 2007 9:38 AM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me Hare Krishna

 

 

Dear Ravi ji,

 

How about when the mother-in-law is dead already?

 

[rafal] Still there are motherly figures in Your life..

 

Rafal ji,

 

I am very curious to discover why UL in Capricon is bad as well, since I have my UL in Capricon, but I also have my AL in Capricon, and both Saturn and Ketu are placed in my UL and AL.

 

[rafal] So person can be orthodox. Sani in upapada gives usually cold spouse but with ketu can give very spontaneous/crazy. Its own sign so person is from good background and Ketu influence is not so strong here but if Venus doesnt influence person can be hypocrite in spirituality. Upapada in Arudhalagna is very good - it means usually good matching and blessings but Venus in seventh is bad as there can be other women who can destroy your relation, Rahu shows foreigners and mystics. All these is for 1st relation.

 

Thank You for Your wishes. May Lord Krsna bless You!

 

 

"A. Ravindran Nair" <rain13club > wrote:

 

Dear Arvind,

 

UL in Capricon means the 7th is Cancer and its Lord is Moon. So, the mother-law will become the villain.

 

Hope Rafalji had this in mind.

 

Regards

 

Ravi Nair

 

 

Aravinda <aru_dulla > wrote:

Dear Rafal.......why is UL in capricorn bad? In what context? This

is a rule or is it subjective?

 

regards

Aru

 

, "Rafal Gendarz"

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>

> vyam vyasadevaya namah

> Dear Pratosh,

>

> Answers below.

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> -

> prathoshg

>

> Monday, January 01, 2007 6:49 PM

> [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me

Hare Krishna

>

>

> My Queries

>

> 1.It is said Planets in 7th and 12th from UL Will Oppose

Marriage so

> if There is a planet like rahu we say foreigner and what abt

Ketu in

> 7th from UL ??????????

>

> [rafal] rahu is foreigner but ketu can show other tradition

within same country. ketu represents unpredictable, spontaneous and

often antagonist of social rules. rahu in seventh from upapada

indicate spiritual spouse especially after 45..in those cases kids

and ganapati puja are important.

>

> Seventh bhava means opposition, but 12H bhava can mean that You

dont have contact with that specific person from inlaw side. (taking

al as lagna here)

>

>

> 2.Suppose if there are no Planets in 7th from UL can we take the

lord

> of 7th from UL as Opposing ?????????????

>

> [rafal] You can. Sanjay therefore says that upapada in capricorn

is bad. You should know why..

>

>

> 3.Guru ji Sanjay rath in one of lecture has said 7th house in

navamsa

> for spouse attitude Then if i have Guru and Mangala in 7th House

in

> Navamsa it becomes Guru Mangala Yoga is That Good bec Guru in

7th in

> navamsa with mars Sanjay ji has said They will get Lucky

Spouse ??????????\

>

> [rafal] This means that spouse should digest emotion of these

grahas. Attitude is connected to choices (dhi sakti - jupiter - paka

lagna) so Saptamesh would tell more..but its issue with definitions.

Jupiter gives spouse with controlled senses (all classics says

that). Mangal in seventh can give person without limbs or with scars

(i believe bphs). First spouse of native should share traits of Guru

and Mangal (attraction to spiritual literature and kantaka yuddha

(JS) - fight abilities, this can also shows engineering). Mangal as

agni tattwa with Jupiter often gives Jyotisha but Sanjay wrote in

one article that Rahu signifies Jyotisha..anyway hope I answered

Your question..being mithuna Lagna - so many cases are rising

throughout answering..

>

>

>

> 4.For me AK IS SUN IS NEECHA IN RASI AND EXALTED IN NAVAMSA IN

6TH

> UPACHAYA BHAVA WHETHER IT IS GOOD

>

> [rafal] jataka parijata says that first we see effect in rasi,

then navamsa. malefics deb in dushtana are good as enemy is

destroyed..sun in sixth is good...ak in sixth can show many vices or

attraction for the same..being sun you cant admit it/recognize it.

om vishnave namah - six letters..

>

> 5.can we believe That rahu as Atmakaraka Spouse will be Good and

wont

> cheat us Generally asking Since i have heard rahu as atma means

They

> will get cheated more and will be Good in heart and Spiritual is

that

> true?????

>

> [rafal] you cant judge person by one yoga.

>

>

>

>

> Thanking u

> prathosh

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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hraum namah adityaya

Dear Swati

comments below

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

 

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healing spaces

Tuesday, January 02, 2007 9:56 AM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me Hare Krishna

 

 

Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Rafalji,

1. What about obstructions from one's own family members ? how do we see that?

 

[rafal] Ninth lord in seventh is one of that Yoga when father go against You in marriage. You can see also Devata of Grahas in 4/12 in Dwadasaamsa. See also Luminaries in seventh from AL. Mangal is Your brother and Venus is Your sister.

 

 

2. if the 7th lord and Ul lord is placed in 6th from venus , while venus is itslef in MKS what results?

 

[rafal] See if Sani is in kona to Lagna or Surya.

 

 

Swati

Namah Shivaya

 

 

On 1/2/07, ND <nadiadeol (AT) (DOT) ca> wrote:

Dear Ravi ji,

 

How about when the mother-in-law is dead already?

 

Rafal ji,

 

I am very curious to discover why UL in Capricon is bad as well, since I have my UL in Capricon, but I also have my AL in Capricon, and both Saturn and Ketu are placed in my UL and AL. But I have Venus and Rahu in yuti in 7th from my UL and AL, which is Cancer. And my moon is in Revati in 12 house in rashi.

 

Its interesting, when Vistiji looked at my chart, he said that Venus yuti with Rahu in 7th from UL meant that my husband will have jealous ex-girlfriends.

 

Looking forward to your comments,

 

Best wishes to all in 2007,

ND

 

 

 

"A. Ravindran Nair" <rain13club > wrote:

Dear Arvind,

 

UL in Capricon means the 7th is Cancer and its Lord is Moon. So, the mother-law will become the villain.

 

Hope Rafalji had this in mind.

 

Regards

 

Ravi Nair

 

 

Aravinda <aru_dulla > wrote:

Dear Rafal.......why is UL in capricorn bad? In what context? This

is a rule or is it subjective?

 

regards

Aru

 

, "Rafal Gendarz"

<starsuponme wrote:

>

> vyam vyasadevaya namah

> Dear Pratosh,

>

> Answers below.

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> -

> prathoshg

>

> Monday, January 01, 2007 6:49 PM

> [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me

Hare Krishna

>

>

> My Queries

>

> 1.It is said Planets in 7th and 12th from UL Will Oppose

Marriage so

> if There is a planet like rahu we say foreigner and what abt

Ketu in

> 7th from UL ??????????

>

> [rafal] rahu is foreigner but ketu can show other tradition

within same country. ketu represents unpredictable, spontaneous and

often antagonist of social rules. rahu in seventh from upapada

indicate spiritual spouse especially after 45..in those cases kids

and ganapati puja are important.

>

> Seventh bhava means opposition, but 12H bhava can mean that You

dont have contact with that specific person from inlaw side. (taking

al as lagna here)

>

>

> 2.Suppose if there are no Planets in 7th from UL can we take the

lord

> of 7th from UL as Opposing ?????????????

>

> [rafal] You can. Sanjay therefore says that upapada in capricorn

is bad. You should know why..

>

>

> 3.Guru ji Sanjay rath in one of lecture has said 7th house in

navamsa

> for spouse attitude Then if i have Guru and Mangala in 7th House

in

> Navamsa it becomes Guru Mangala Yoga is That Good bec Guru in

7th in

> navamsa with mars Sanjay ji has said They will get Lucky

Spouse ??????????\

>

> [rafal] This means that spouse should digest emotion of these

grahas. Attitude is connected to choices (dhi sakti - jupiter - paka

lagna) so Saptamesh would tell more..but its issue with definitions..

Jupiter gives spouse with controlled senses (all classics says

that). Mangal in seventh can give person without limbs or with scars

(i believe bphs). First spouse of native should share traits of Guru

and Mangal (attraction to spiritual literature and kantaka yuddha

(JS) - fight abilities, this can also shows engineering). Mangal as

agni tattwa with Jupiter often gives Jyotisha but Sanjay wrote in

one article that Rahu signifies Jyotisha..anyway hope I answered

Your question..being mithuna Lagna - so many cases are rising

throughout answering..

>

>

>

> 4.For me AK IS SUN IS NEECHA IN RASI AND EXALTED IN NAVAMSA IN

6TH

> UPACHAYA BHAVA WHETHER IT IS GOOD

>

> [rafal] jataka parijata says that first we see effect in rasi,

then navamsa. malefics deb in dushtana are good as enemy is

destroyed..sun in sixth is good...ak in sixth can show many vices or

attraction for the same..being sun you cant admit it/recognize it.

om vishnave namah - six letters..

>

> 5.can we believe That rahu as Atmakaraka Spouse will be Good and

wont

> cheat us Generally asking Since i have heard rahu as atma means

They

> will get cheated more and will be Good in heart and Spiritual is

that

> true?????

>

> [rafal] you cant judge person by one yoga.

>

>

>

>

> Thanking u

> prathosh

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Ravi.......in that case all persons who have UL in the

capricorn have villainous mother in laws?! I think there's more to

this than just lordship. Lordship of the house doesn't determine

everything. I would say an afflicted moon badly placed w.r.t UL will

determine that. Rafalji please explain this in detail.

 

regards

Aravinda

 

, "A. Ravindran Nair"

<rain13club wrote:

>

> Dear Arvind,

>

> UL in Capricon means the 7th is Cancer and its Lord is Moon.

So, the mother-law will become the villain.

>

> Hope Rafalji had this in mind.

>

> Regards

>

> Ravi Nair

>

>

> Aravinda <aru_dulla wrote:

> Dear Rafal.......why is UL in capricorn bad? In what

context? This

> is a rule or is it subjective?

>

> regards

> Aru

>

> , "Rafal Gendarz"

> <starsuponme@> wrote:

> >

> > vyam vyasadevaya namah

> > Dear Pratosh,

> >

> > Answers below.

> >

> > Regards

> > Rafal Gendarz

> >

> > -

> > prathoshg

> >

> > Monday, January 01, 2007 6:49 PM

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me

> Hare Krishna

> >

> >

> > My Queries

> >

> > 1.It is said Planets in 7th and 12th from UL Will Oppose

> Marriage so

> > if There is a planet like rahu we say foreigner and what abt

> Ketu in

> > 7th from UL ??????????

> >

> > [rafal] rahu is foreigner but ketu can show other tradition

> within same country. ketu represents unpredictable, spontaneous

and

> often antagonist of social rules. rahu in seventh from upapada

> indicate spiritual spouse especially after 45..in those cases kids

> and ganapati puja are important.

> >

> > Seventh bhava means opposition, but 12H bhava can mean that You

> dont have contact with that specific person from inlaw side.

(taking

> al as lagna here)

> >

> >

> > 2.Suppose if there are no Planets in 7th from UL can we take the

> lord

> > of 7th from UL as Opposing ?????????????

> >

> > [rafal] You can. Sanjay therefore says that upapada in capricorn

> is bad. You should know why..

> >

> >

> > 3.Guru ji Sanjay rath in one of lecture has said 7th house in

> navamsa

> > for spouse attitude Then if i have Guru and Mangala in 7th House

> in

> > Navamsa it becomes Guru Mangala Yoga is That Good bec Guru in

> 7th in

> > navamsa with mars Sanjay ji has said They will get Lucky

> Spouse ??????????\

> >

> > [rafal] This means that spouse should digest emotion of these

> grahas. Attitude is connected to choices (dhi sakti - jupiter -

paka

> lagna) so Saptamesh would tell more..but its issue with

definitions.

> Jupiter gives spouse with controlled senses (all classics says

> that). Mangal in seventh can give person without limbs or with

scars

> (i believe bphs). First spouse of native should share traits of

Guru

> and Mangal (attraction to spiritual literature and kantaka yuddha

> (JS) - fight abilities, this can also shows engineering). Mangal

as

> agni tattwa with Jupiter often gives Jyotisha but Sanjay wrote in

> one article that Rahu signifies Jyotisha..anyway hope I answered

> Your question..being mithuna Lagna - so many cases are rising

> throughout answering..

> >

> >

> >

> > 4.For me AK IS SUN IS NEECHA IN RASI AND EXALTED IN NAVAMSA IN

> 6TH

> > UPACHAYA BHAVA WHETHER IT IS GOOD

> >

> > [rafal] jataka parijata says that first we see effect in rasi,

> then navamsa. malefics deb in dushtana are good as enemy is

> destroyed..sun in sixth is good...ak in sixth can show many vices

or

> attraction for the same..being sun you cant admit it/recognize it.

> om vishnave namah - six letters..

> >

> > 5.can we believe That rahu as Atmakaraka Spouse will be Good and

> wont

> > cheat us Generally asking Since i have heard rahu as atma means

> They

> > will get cheated more and will be Good in heart and Spiritual is

> that

> > true?????

> >

> > [rafal] you cant judge person by one yoga.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Thanking u

> > prathosh

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hare Rama krsna

Dear Rafalji

 

1. What about obstructions from one's own family members ? how do we see

that?

 

[rafal] Ninth lord in seventh is one of that Yoga when father go against You

in marriage. You can see also Devata of Grahas in 4/12 in Dwadasaamsa. See

also Luminaries in seventh from AL. Mangal is Your brother and Venus is Your

sister.

 

{Swati} Why should 9th lord in 7th obstruct marriage, would it not be more

fortunate spouse for the native. Also would it not depend of nature of

planet that father supports or obstructs...

in accordance with UL , the planets in 7th or 12th would show the

opposition from spouses family ? and for opposition from our family we see

7th and 12th to AL .

 

2. if the 7th lord and Ul lord is placed in 6th from venus , while venus is

itslef in MKS what results?

 

[rafal] See if Sani is in kona to Lagna or Surya.

 

{swati} What would saturn deliver if its in trine?

In my virgo lagna lord chart the Ul sagi lord and 7th pisces lord jupiter is

in 11th house exalted...Ak venus is in 6th house while saturn is in 12th.

sun is in 8th house in trine to saturn rahu.

 

i think the first Ul would not fructify or come in existence. am i right?

 

Warm regards for new year

 

Swati

 

On 1/2/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote:

>

> *hraum namah adityaya*

> *Dear Swati*

> *comments below*

> *Regards*

> *Rafal Gendarz*

>

>

>

>

> Hare Rama Krsna

> Dear Rafalji,

> 1. What about obstructions from one's own family members ? how do we see

> that?

>

> [rafal] Ninth lord in seventh is one of that Yoga when father go against

> You in marriage. You can see also Devata of Grahas in 4/12 in

> Dwadasaamsa. See also Luminaries in seventh from AL. Mangal is Your brother

> and Venus is Your sister.

>

>

> 2. if the 7th lord and Ul lord is placed in 6th from venus , while venus

> is itslef in MKS what results?

>

> [rafal] See if Sani is in kona to Lagna or Surya.

>

>

> Swati

> Namah Shivaya

> On 1/2/07, ND <nadiadeol (AT) (DOT) ca> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ravi ji,

> >

> > How about when the mother-in-law is dead already?

> >

> > Rafal ji,

> >

> > I am very curious to discover why UL in Capricon is bad as well, since I

> > have my UL in Capricon, but I also have my AL in Capricon, and both Saturn

> > and Ketu are placed in my UL and AL. But I have Venus and Rahu in yuti in

> > 7th from my UL and AL, which is Cancer. And my moon is in Revati in 12 house

> > in rashi.

> >

> > Its interesting, when Vistiji looked at my chart, he said that Venus

> > yuti with Rahu in 7th from UL meant that my husband will have jealous

> > ex-girlfriends.

> >

> > Looking forward to your comments,

> >

> > Best wishes to all in 2007,

> > ND

> >

> >

> > *"A. Ravindran Nair" <rain13club >* wrote:

> >

> > Dear Arvind,

> >

> > UL in Capricon means the 7th is Cancer and its Lord is Moon. So, the

> > mother-law will become the villain.

> >

> > Hope Rafalji had this in mind.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Ravi Nair

> >

> >

> > *Aravinda <aru_dulla >* wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rafal.......why is UL in capricorn bad? In what context? This

> > is a rule or is it subjective?

> >

> > regards

> > Aru

> >

> > <%40>,

> > "Rafal Gendarz"

> > <starsuponme wrote:

> > >

> > > vyam vyasadevaya namah

> > > Dear Pratosh,

> > >

> > > Answers below.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > >

> > > -

> > > prathoshg

> > > <%40>

> > > Monday, January 01, 2007 6:49 PM

> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me

> > Hare Krishna

> > >

> > >

> > > My Queries

> > >

> > > 1.It is said Planets in 7th and 12th from UL Will Oppose

> > Marriage so

> > > if There is a planet like rahu we say foreigner and what abt

> > Ketu in

> > > 7th from UL ??????????

> > >

> > > [rafal] rahu is foreigner but ketu can show other tradition

> > within same country. ketu represents unpredictable, spontaneous and

> > often antagonist of social rules. rahu in seventh from upapada

> > indicate spiritual spouse especially after 45..in those cases kids

> > and ganapati puja are important.

> > >

> > > Seventh bhava means opposition, but 12H bhava can mean that You

> > dont have contact with that specific person from inlaw side. (taking

> > al as lagna here)

> > >

> > >

> > > 2.Suppose if there are no Planets in 7th from UL can we take the

> > lord

> > > of 7th from UL as Opposing ?????????????

> > >

> > > [rafal] You can. Sanjay therefore says that upapada in capricorn

> > is bad. You should know why..

> > >

> > >

> > > 3.Guru ji Sanjay rath in one of lecture has said 7th house in

> > navamsa

> > > for spouse attitude Then if i have Guru and Mangala in 7th House

> > in

> > > Navamsa it becomes Guru Mangala Yoga is That Good bec Guru in

> > 7th in

> > > navamsa with mars Sanjay ji has said They will get Lucky

> > Spouse ??????????\

> > >

> > > [rafal] This means that spouse should digest emotion of these

> > grahas. Attitude is connected to choices (dhi sakti - jupiter - paka

> > lagna) so Saptamesh would tell more..but its issue with definitions.

> > Jupiter gives spouse with controlled senses (all classics says

> > that). Mangal in seventh can give person without limbs or with scars

> > (i believe bphs). First spouse of native should share traits of Guru

> > and Mangal (attraction to spiritual literature and kantaka yuddha

> > (JS) - fight abilities, this can also shows engineering). Mangal as

> > agni tattwa with Jupiter often gives Jyotisha but Sanjay wrote in

> > one article that Rahu signifies Jyotisha..anyway hope I answered

> > Your question..being mithuna Lagna - so many cases are rising

> > throughout answering..

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > 4.For me AK IS SUN IS NEECHA IN RASI AND EXALTED IN NAVAMSA IN

> > 6TH

> > > UPACHAYA BHAVA WHETHER IT IS GOOD

> > >

> > > [rafal] jataka parijata says that first we see effect in rasi,

> > then navamsa. malefics deb in dushtana are good as enemy is

> > destroyed..sun in sixth is good...ak in sixth can show many vices or

> > attraction for the same..being sun you cant admit it/recognize it.

> > om vishnave namah - six letters..

> > >

> > > 5.can we believe That rahu as Atmakaraka Spouse will be Good and

> > wont

> > > cheat us Generally asking Since i have heard rahu as atma means

> > They

> > > will get cheated more and will be Good in heart and Spiritual is

> > that

> > > true?????

> > >

> > > [rafal] you cant judge person by one yoga.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Thanking u

> > > prathosh

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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Dear Rafal.......I have come across various charts where eventhough

UL is free of planets in its 7th and 12th houses there was some

friction with the members of the spouse's family. I will give you an

example.

 

+--------------+

|JuR | | |AL |

| | | | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

|-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

|Ra | |Mo |

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

|-----------| Rasi |-----------|

|GL | |Ma Ve |

| | |Ke |

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

|-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

|Md Gk |HL |As Su |Sa |

| | |Me | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

+--------------+

 

DOB: oct 24th, 1951

TOB: 7:15AM

POB: 5:30 East of GMT

83 E 18; 17 N 42

 

In the above chart, UL is in the second house (scorpio) and has no

planets in the 7th house and also moon is in a favourable position

from the UL. It is situated in the 9th from the UL and is aspected

by jupiter. But the person had to endure endless taunts from her

mother in law. What is the reason for this. Moon is unafflicted and

not placed in the 7th and 12th from the UL. Since venus represents

sister in laws and is thoroughly afflicted by mars and ketu I can

see that the sister in laws were indeed villainous and were

responsible for many quarrels at home. But, how do I explain the

moon's position.

 

regards

Aru

 

, "Rafal Gendarz"

<starsuponme wrote:

>

> hraum namah adityaya

> Dear Aru, Namaskar

> Its bad to have mother-in-law against You. HOWEVER Moon position

can change this.

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> -

> Aravinda

>

> Tuesday, January 02, 2007 5:54 AM

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me

Hare Krishna

>

>

> Dear Rafal.......why is UL in capricorn bad? In what context?

This

> is a rule or is it subjective?

>

> regards

> Aru

>

> , "Rafal Gendarz"

> <starsuponme@> wrote:

> >

> > vyam vyasadevaya namah

> > Dear Pratosh,

> >

> > Answers below.

> >

> > Regards

> > Rafal Gendarz

> >

> > -

> > prathoshg

> >

> > Monday, January 01, 2007 6:49 PM

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me

> Hare Krishna

> >

> >

> > My Queries

> >

> > 1.It is said Planets in 7th and 12th from UL Will Oppose

> Marriage so

> > if There is a planet like rahu we say foreigner and what abt

> Ketu in

> > 7th from UL ??????????

> >

> > [rafal] rahu is foreigner but ketu can show other tradition

> within same country. ketu represents unpredictable, spontaneous

and

> often antagonist of social rules. rahu in seventh from upapada

> indicate spiritual spouse especially after 45..in those cases

kids

> and ganapati puja are important.

> >

> > Seventh bhava means opposition, but 12H bhava can mean that

You

> dont have contact with that specific person from inlaw side.

(taking

> al as lagna here)

> >

> >

> > 2.Suppose if there are no Planets in 7th from UL can we take

the

> lord

> > of 7th from UL as Opposing ?????????????

> >

> > [rafal] You can. Sanjay therefore says that upapada in

capricorn

> is bad. You should know why..

> >

> >

> > 3.Guru ji Sanjay rath in one of lecture has said 7th house in

> navamsa

> > for spouse attitude Then if i have Guru and Mangala in 7th

House

> in

> > Navamsa it becomes Guru Mangala Yoga is That Good bec Guru in

> 7th in

> > navamsa with mars Sanjay ji has said They will get Lucky

> Spouse ??????????\

> >

> > [rafal] This means that spouse should digest emotion of these

> grahas. Attitude is connected to choices (dhi sakti - jupiter -

paka

> lagna) so Saptamesh would tell more..but its issue with

definitions.

> Jupiter gives spouse with controlled senses (all classics says

> that). Mangal in seventh can give person without limbs or with

scars

> (i believe bphs). First spouse of native should share traits of

Guru

> and Mangal (attraction to spiritual literature and kantaka

yuddha

> (JS) - fight abilities, this can also shows engineering). Mangal

as

> agni tattwa with Jupiter often gives Jyotisha but Sanjay wrote

in

> one article that Rahu signifies Jyotisha..anyway hope I answered

> Your question..being mithuna Lagna - so many cases are rising

> throughout answering..

> >

> >

> >

> > 4.For me AK IS SUN IS NEECHA IN RASI AND EXALTED IN NAVAMSA IN

> 6TH

> > UPACHAYA BHAVA WHETHER IT IS GOOD

> >

> > [rafal] jataka parijata says that first we see effect in rasi,

> then navamsa. malefics deb in dushtana are good as enemy is

> destroyed..sun in sixth is good...ak in sixth can show many

vices or

> attraction for the same..being sun you cant admit it/recognize

it.

> om vishnave namah - six letters..

> >

> > 5.can we believe That rahu as Atmakaraka Spouse will be Good

and

> wont

> > cheat us Generally asking Since i have heard rahu as atma

means

> They

> > will get cheated more and will be Good in heart and Spiritual

is

> that

> > true?????

> >

> > [rafal] you cant judge person by one yoga.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Thanking u

> > prathosh

> >

>

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Dear Aravinda,

Seventh bhava is dwara. It can be dwara to other life (like 7H from Lagna - if Mars You are born on Island), or it can be dwara to Your prestige (Arudha). Where the person is standing on the dwara - he can help You (benefic with good diptadiavashta in 7 from AL) or he can block You (malefic there - see Rama chart). So if empty see the position and Yoga's of this Moon.

 

In early times of discovering these all rules every newborn Jyotisha was applying every possible thing He could imagine like seeing 12L from AL from A7 in D10..with time and experience we see WHAT IS RELEVANT. That cause also with Guru-krpa and His Sakti..brhaspati.

 

See 7 and 12 from Karakamsa to see your chances to rebirth or moksa. We shouldnt apply these rules without proper understanding and it comes through third eye - therefore three Deities in Jyotish are important Surya, Visnu and Siva - every Rsi pay attention to one of them.

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

-

Aravinda

Tuesday, January 02, 2007 2:17 PM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me Hare Krishna

 

 

Dear Ravi.......in that case all persons who have UL in the

capricorn have villainous mother in laws?! I think there's more to

this than just lordship. Lordship of the house doesn't determine

everything. I would say an afflicted moon badly placed w.r.t UL will

determine that. Rafalji please explain this in detail.

 

regards

Aravinda

 

, "A. Ravindran Nair"

<rain13club wrote:

>

> Dear Arvind,

>

> UL in Capricon means the 7th is Cancer and its Lord is Moon.

So, the mother-law will become the villain.

>

> Hope Rafalji had this in mind.

>

> Regards

>

> Ravi Nair

>

>

> Aravinda <aru_dulla wrote:

> Dear Rafal.......why is UL in capricorn bad? In what

context? This

> is a rule or is it subjective?

>

> regards

> Aru

>

> , "Rafal Gendarz"

> <starsuponme@> wrote:

> >

> > vyam vyasadevaya namah

> > Dear Pratosh,

> >

> > Answers below.

> >

> > Regards

> > Rafal Gendarz

> >

> > -

> > prathoshg

> >

> > Monday, January 01, 2007 6:49 PM

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me

> Hare Krishna

> >

> >

> > My Queries

> >

> > 1.It is said Planets in 7th and 12th from UL Will Oppose

> Marriage so

> > if There is a planet like rahu we say foreigner and what abt

> Ketu in

> > 7th from UL ??????????

> >

> > [rafal] rahu is foreigner but ketu can show other tradition

> within same country. ketu represents unpredictable, spontaneous

and

> often antagonist of social rules. rahu in seventh from upapada

> indicate spiritual spouse especially after 45..in those cases kids

> and ganapati puja are important.

> >

> > Seventh bhava means opposition, but 12H bhava can mean that You

> dont have contact with that specific person from inlaw side.

(taking

> al as lagna here)

> >

> >

> > 2.Suppose if there are no Planets in 7th from UL can we take the

> lord

> > of 7th from UL as Opposing ?????????????

> >

> > [rafal] You can. Sanjay therefore says that upapada in capricorn

> is bad. You should know why..

> >

> >

> > 3.Guru ji Sanjay rath in one of lecture has said 7th house in

> navamsa

> > for spouse attitude Then if i have Guru and Mangala in 7th House

> in

> > Navamsa it becomes Guru Mangala Yoga is That Good bec Guru in

> 7th in

> > navamsa with mars Sanjay ji has said They will get Lucky

> Spouse ??????????\

> >

> > [rafal] This means that spouse should digest emotion of these

> grahas. Attitude is connected to choices (dhi sakti - jupiter -

paka

> lagna) so Saptamesh would tell more..but its issue with

definitions.

> Jupiter gives spouse with controlled senses (all classics says

> that). Mangal in seventh can give person without limbs or with

scars

> (i believe bphs). First spouse of native should share traits of

Guru

> and Mangal (attraction to spiritual literature and kantaka yuddha

> (JS) - fight abilities, this can also shows engineering). Mangal

as

> agni tattwa with Jupiter often gives Jyotisha but Sanjay wrote in

> one article that Rahu signifies Jyotisha..anyway hope I answered

> Your question..being mithuna Lagna - so many cases are rising

> throughout answering..

> >

> >

> >

> > 4.For me AK IS SUN IS NEECHA IN RASI AND EXALTED IN NAVAMSA IN

> 6TH

> > UPACHAYA BHAVA WHETHER IT IS GOOD

> >

> > [rafal] jataka parijata says that first we see effect in rasi,

> then navamsa. malefics deb in dushtana are good as enemy is

> destroyed..sun in sixth is good...ak in sixth can show many vices

or

> attraction for the same..being sun you cant admit it/recognize it.

> om vishnave namah - six letters..

> >

> > 5.can we believe That rahu as Atmakaraka Spouse will be Good and

> wont

> > cheat us Generally asking Since i have heard rahu as atma means

> They

> > will get cheated more and will be Good in heart and Spiritual is

> that

> > true?????

> >

> > [rafal] you cant judge person by one yoga.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Thanking u

> > prathosh

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Aru,

Arudha can cause many FINANCIAL OR STATUS straing - something which is VISIBLE - arudha is mount!

In this Navamsa-chart (i dont know if its rectified NOR if what you mean is FIRST SERIOUS RELATIONSHIP) 10L (motherinlaw) is in eight from Lagnesh. Chandra is also in badhak to UL!

 

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

 

 

-

Aravinda

Tuesday, January 02, 2007 2:34 PM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me Hare Krishna

 

 

Dear Rafal.......I have come across various charts where eventhough

UL is free of planets in its 7th and 12th houses there was some

friction with the members of the spouse's family. I will give you an

example.

 

+--------------+

|JuR | | |AL |

| | | | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

|-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

|Ra | |Mo |

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

|-----------| Rasi |-----------|

|GL | |Ma Ve |

| | |Ke |

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

|-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

|Md Gk |HL |As Su |Sa |

| | |Me | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

+--------------+

 

DOB: oct 24th, 1951

TOB: 7:15AM

POB: 5:30 East of GMT

83 E 18; 17 N 42

 

In the above chart, UL is in the second house (scorpio) and has no

planets in the 7th house and also moon is in a favourable position

from the UL. It is situated in the 9th from the UL and is aspected

by jupiter. But the person had to endure endless taunts from her

mother in law. What is the reason for this. Moon is unafflicted and

not placed in the 7th and 12th from the UL. Since venus represents

sister in laws and is thoroughly afflicted by mars and ketu I can

see that the sister in laws were indeed villainous and were

responsible for many quarrels at home. But, how do I explain the

moon's position.

 

regards

Aru

 

, "Rafal Gendarz"

<starsuponme wrote:

>

> hraum namah adityaya

> Dear Aru, Namaskar

> Its bad to have mother-in-law against You. HOWEVER Moon position

can change this.

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> -

> Aravinda

>

> Tuesday, January 02, 2007 5:54 AM

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me

Hare Krishna

>

>

> Dear Rafal.......why is UL in capricorn bad? In what context?

This

> is a rule or is it subjective?

>

> regards

> Aru

>

> , "Rafal Gendarz"

> <starsuponme@> wrote:

> >

> > vyam vyasadevaya namah

> > Dear Pratosh,

> >

> > Answers below.

> >

> > Regards

> > Rafal Gendarz

> >

> > -

> > prathoshg

> >

> > Monday, January 01, 2007 6:49 PM

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me

> Hare Krishna

> >

> >

> > My Queries

> >

> > 1.It is said Planets in 7th and 12th from UL Will Oppose

> Marriage so

> > if There is a planet like rahu we say foreigner and what abt

> Ketu in

> > 7th from UL ??????????

> >

> > [rafal] rahu is foreigner but ketu can show other tradition

> within same country. ketu represents unpredictable, spontaneous

and

> often antagonist of social rules. rahu in seventh from upapada

> indicate spiritual spouse especially after 45..in those cases

kids

> and ganapati puja are important.

> >

> > Seventh bhava means opposition, but 12H bhava can mean that

You

> dont have contact with that specific person from inlaw side.

(taking

> al as lagna here)

> >

> >

> > 2.Suppose if there are no Planets in 7th from UL can we take

the

> lord

> > of 7th from UL as Opposing ?????????????

> >

> > [rafal] You can. Sanjay therefore says that upapada in

capricorn

> is bad. You should know why..

> >

> >

> > 3.Guru ji Sanjay rath in one of lecture has said 7th house in

> navamsa

> > for spouse attitude Then if i have Guru and Mangala in 7th

House

> in

> > Navamsa it becomes Guru Mangala Yoga is That Good bec Guru in

> 7th in

> > navamsa with mars Sanjay ji has said They will get Lucky

> Spouse ??????????\

> >

> > [rafal] This means that spouse should digest emotion of these

> grahas. Attitude is connected to choices (dhi sakti - jupiter -

paka

> lagna) so Saptamesh would tell more..but its issue with

definitions.

> Jupiter gives spouse with controlled senses (all classics says

> that). Mangal in seventh can give person without limbs or with

scars

> (i believe bphs). First spouse of native should share traits of

Guru

> and Mangal (attraction to spiritual literature and kantaka

yuddha

> (JS) - fight abilities, this can also shows engineering). Mangal

as

> agni tattwa with Jupiter often gives Jyotisha but Sanjay wrote

in

> one article that Rahu signifies Jyotisha..anyway hope I answered

> Your question..being mithuna Lagna - so many cases are rising

> throughout answering..

> >

> >

> >

> > 4.For me AK IS SUN IS NEECHA IN RASI AND EXALTED IN NAVAMSA IN

> 6TH

> > UPACHAYA BHAVA WHETHER IT IS GOOD

> >

> > [rafal] jataka parijata says that first we see effect in rasi,

> then navamsa. malefics deb in dushtana are good as enemy is

> destroyed..sun in sixth is good...ak in sixth can show many

vices or

> attraction for the same..being sun you cant admit it/recognize

it.

> om vishnave namah - six letters..

> >

> > 5.can we believe That rahu as Atmakaraka Spouse will be Good

and

> wont

> > cheat us Generally asking Since i have heard rahu as atma

means

> They

> > will get cheated more and will be Good in heart and Spiritual

is

> that

> > true?????

> >

> > [rafal] you cant judge person by one yoga.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Thanking u

> > prathosh

> >

>

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hare rama krsna

Dear Swami,

Comments under Your notes.

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

 

-

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Tuesday, January 02, 2007 2:31 PM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me Hare Krishna

 

 

Hare Rama krsna

Dear Rafalji

 

 

1. What about obstructions from one's own family members ? how do we see that?

 

[rafal] Ninth lord in seventh is one of that Yoga when father go against You in marriage. You can see also Devata of Grahas in 4/12 in Dwadasaamsa. See also Luminaries in seventh from AL. Mangal is Your brother and Venus is Your sister.

 

{Swati} Why should 9th lord in 7th obstruct marriage, would it not be more fortunate spouse for the native. Also would it not depend of nature of planet that father supports or obstructs...

 

[rafal] Well..this is what I was taught by Guruji and I saw it works.. I remember this Yoga so I mentioned it..in Muhurta even Jupiter in 7 is bad for marriage so 9L can show too much bothering (from 9 to 7 is upachaya and upachaya lords shows something overcontrol).

 

 

in accordance with UL , the planets in 7th or 12th would show the opposition from spouses family ? and for opposition from our family we see 7th and 12th to AL .

 

 

[rafal] 7H from AL can cause many good things..therefore we always look at Hari-Hara-Brahma Yoga seeing Lagnesh, Visnu (2H) and Ganesh (7H) from lagnapada..find that chapter in BPHS where Maharishi mentioned Ve-Ju Yoga in 7H from AL - read that chapter. 12 from AL is what we reject (if AL lord is involved) or what cause expenses (see natural karaka's).

 

2. if the 7th lord and Ul lord is placed in 6th from venus , while venus is itslef in MKS what results?

 

[rafal] See if Sani is in kona to Lagna or Surya.

 

{swati} What would saturn deliver if its in trine?

 

[rafal] Isnt Sani karaka for sixth bhava ? There is cancelation of MKS...

 

 

In my virgo lagna lord chart the Ul sagi lord and 7th pisces lord jupiter is in 11th house exalted...Ak venus is in 6th house while saturn is in 12th. sun is in 8th house in trine to saturn rahu.

 

 

i think the first Ul would not fructify or come in existence. am i right?

 

[rafal] If Upapada lord is wellplaced then it must come to existence. If its in bad position from AL or dushtana in d9 you can reject this however.

 

 

 

 

Warm regards for new year

 

[rafal] Thank You and good Jyotish studies in 2007.

 

 

Swati

 

 

 

 

On 1/2/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote:

 

hraum namah adityaya

Dear Swati

comments below

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

 

 

 

 

 

Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Rafalji,

1. What about obstructions from one's own family members ? how do we see that?

 

[rafal] Ninth lord in seventh is one of that Yoga when father go against You in marriage. You can see also Devata of Grahas in 4/12 in Dwadasaamsa. See also Luminaries in seventh from AL. Mangal is Your brother and Venus is Your sister.

 

 

2. if the 7th lord and Ul lord is placed in 6th from venus , while venus is itslef in MKS what results?

 

[rafal] See if Sani is in kona to Lagna or Surya.

 

 

Swati

Namah Shivaya

 

 

On 1/2/07, ND <nadiadeol (AT) (DOT) ca> wrote:

Dear Ravi ji,

 

How about when the mother-in-law is dead already?

 

Rafal ji,

 

I am very curious to discover why UL in Capricon is bad as well, since I have my UL in Capricon, but I also have my AL in Capricon, and both Saturn and Ketu are placed in my UL and AL. But I have Venus and Rahu in yuti in 7th from my UL and AL, which is Cancer. And my moon is in Revati in 12 house in rashi.

 

Its interesting, when Vistiji looked at my chart, he said that Venus yuti with Rahu in 7th from UL meant that my husband will have jealous ex-girlfriends.

 

Looking forward to your comments,

 

Best wishes to all in 2007,

ND

 

 

 

"A. Ravindran Nair" <rain13club > wrote:

Dear Arvind,

 

UL in Capricon means the 7th is Cancer and its Lord is Moon. So, the mother-law will become the villain.

 

Hope Rafalji had this in mind.

 

Regards

 

Ravi Nair

 

 

Aravinda <aru_dulla > wrote:

Dear Rafal.......why is UL in capricorn bad? In what context? This

is a rule or is it subjective?

 

regards

Aru

 

, "Rafal Gendarz"

<starsuponme wrote:

>

> vyam vyasadevaya namah

> Dear Pratosh,

>

> Answers below.

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> -

> prathoshg

>

> Monday, January 01, 2007 6:49 PM

> [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me

Hare Krishna

>

>

> My Queries

>

> 1.It is said Planets in 7th and 12th from UL Will Oppose

Marriage so

> if There is a planet like rahu we say foreigner and what abt

Ketu in

> 7th from UL ??????????

>

> [rafal] rahu is foreigner but ketu can show other tradition

within same country. ketu represents unpredictable, spontaneous and

often antagonist of social rules. rahu in seventh from upapada

indicate spiritual spouse especially after 45..in those cases kids

and ganapati puja are important.

>

> Seventh bhava means opposition, but 12H bhava can mean that You

dont have contact with that specific person from inlaw side. (taking

al as lagna here)

>

>

> 2.Suppose if there are no Planets in 7th from UL can we take the

lord

> of 7th from UL as Opposing ?????????????

>

> [rafal] You can. Sanjay therefore says that upapada in capricorn

is bad. You should know why..

>

>

> 3.Guru ji Sanjay rath in one of lecture has said 7th house in

navamsa

> for spouse attitude Then if i have Guru and Mangala in 7th House

in

> Navamsa it becomes Guru Mangala Yoga is That Good bec Guru in

7th in

> navamsa with mars Sanjay ji has said They will get Lucky

Spouse ??????????\

>

> [rafal] This means that spouse should digest emotion of these

grahas. Attitude is connected to choices (dhi sakti - jupiter - paka

lagna) so Saptamesh would tell more..but its issue with definitions.

Jupiter gives spouse with controlled senses (all classics says

that). Mangal in seventh can give person without limbs or with scars

(i believe bphs). First spouse of native should share traits of Guru

and Mangal (attraction to spiritual literature and kantaka yuddha

(JS) - fight abilities, this can also shows engineering). Mangal as

agni tattwa with Jupiter often gives Jyotisha but Sanjay wrote in

one article that Rahu signifies Jyotisha..anyway hope I answered

Your question..being mithuna Lagna - so many cases are rising

throughout answering..

>

>

>

> 4.For me AK IS SUN IS NEECHA IN RASI AND EXALTED IN NAVAMSA IN

6TH

> UPACHAYA BHAVA WHETHER IT IS GOOD

>

> [rafal] jataka parijata says that first we see effect in rasi,

then navamsa. malefics deb in dushtana are good as enemy is

destroyed..sun in sixth is good...ak in sixth can show many vices or

attraction for the same..being sun you cant admit it/recognize it.

om vishnave namah - six letters..

>

> 5.can we believe That rahu as Atmakaraka Spouse will be Good and

wont

> cheat us Generally asking Since i have heard rahu as atma means

They

> will get cheated more and will be Good in heart and Spiritual is

that

> true?????

>

> [rafal] you cant judge person by one yoga.

>

>

>

>

> Thanking u

> prathosh

>

 

 

 

 

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Hare Rama krsna

Dear Rafalji ,

Thanks for ur comments..They were really helpful.

And yes i remember Sanjayji's discourse on 7th house from Al as dwara to

rise.

1 Could u please elaborate on conditions of cancellation of MKS.?

 

2. secondly in a chart when two planets are MKS, consider merc or mars is

MKS in 7th, the karak of that house is Venus . Venus is also MKS in 6th.

which houses will have more troubles? how will the cancellations work ?

 

3. Upchaya houses are always beyond overcontrol. Is this why 11th house is

considered natural badhaksthan? When dual lagna or fixed lagna is rising,

how does 11th house work?

 

Swati

Namah Shivaya

 

 

On 1/2/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote:

>

> *hare rama krsna*

> *Dear Swami,*

> *Comments under Your notes.*

> *Regards*

> *Rafal Gendarz*

>

>

> -

> ** healing spaces <healingspaces >

> *To:*

> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 02, 2007 2:31 PM

> *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me Hare

> Krishna

>

> Hare Rama krsna

> Dear Rafalji

>

> 1. What about obstructions from one's own family members ? how do we see

> that?

>

> [rafal] Ninth lord in seventh is one of that Yoga when father go against

> You in marriage. You can see also Devata of Grahas in 4/12 in

> Dwadasaamsa. See also Luminaries in seventh from AL. Mangal is Your brother

> and Venus is Your sister.

>

> {Swati} Why should 9th lord in 7th obstruct marriage, would it not be more

> fortunate spouse for the native. Also would it not depend of nature of

> planet that father supports or obstructs...

>

> *[rafal] Well..this is what I was taught by Guruji and I saw it works.. I

> remember this Yoga so I mentioned it..in Muhurta even Jupiter in 7 is bad

> for marriage so 9L can show too much bothering (from 9 to 7 is upachaya and

> upachaya lords shows something overcontrol).*

>

>

> in accordance with UL , the planets in 7th or 12th would show the

> opposition from spouses family ? and for opposition from our family we see

> 7th and 12th to AL .

>

> *[rafal] 7H from AL can cause many good things..therefore we always look

> at Hari-Hara-Brahma Yoga seeing Lagnesh, Visnu (2H) and Ganesh (7H) from

> lagnapada..find that chapter in BPHS where Maharishi mentioned Ve-Ju Yoga in

> 7H from AL - read that chapter. 12 from AL is what we reject (if AL lord is

> involved) or what cause expenses (see natural karaka's).*

>

> 2. if the 7th lord and Ul lord is placed in 6th from venus , while venus

> is itslef in MKS what results?

>

> [rafal] See if Sani is in kona to Lagna or Surya.

>

> {swati} What would saturn deliver if its in trine?

>

> *[rafal] Isnt Sani karaka for sixth bhava ? There is cancelation of MKS...

> *

>

>

> In my virgo lagna lord chart the Ul sagi lord and 7th pisces lord jupiter

> is in 11th house exalted...Ak venus is in 6th house while saturn is in

> 12th. sun is in 8th house in trine to saturn rahu.

>

> i think the first Ul would not fructify or come in existence. am i right?

>

> *[rafal] If Upapada lord is wellplaced then it must come to existence. If

> its in bad position from AL or dushtana in d9 you can reject this however.

> *

>

>

>

>

> Warm regards for new year

>

> *[rafal] Thank You and good Jyotish studies in 2007.*

>

> Swati

>

> On 1/2/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote:

> >

> > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > *Dear Swati*

> > *comments below*

> > *Regards*

> > *Rafal Gendarz*

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hare Rama Krsna

> > Dear Rafalji,

> > 1. What about obstructions from one's own family members ? how do we see

> > that?

> >

> > [rafal] Ninth lord in seventh is one of that Yoga when father go against

> > You in marriage. You can see also Devata of Grahas in 4/12 in

> > Dwadasaamsa. See also Luminaries in seventh from AL. Mangal is Your brother

> > and Venus is Your sister.

> >

> >

> > 2. if the 7th lord and Ul lord is placed in 6th from venus , while venus

> > is itslef in MKS what results?

> >

> > [rafal] See if Sani is in kona to Lagna or Surya.

> >

> >

> > Swati

> > Namah Shivaya

> > On 1/2/07, ND <nadiadeol (AT) (DOT) ca> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ravi ji,

> > >

> > > How about when the mother-in-law is dead already?

> > >

> > > Rafal ji,

> > >

> > > I am very curious to discover why UL in Capricon is bad as well, since

> > > I have my UL in Capricon, but I also have my AL in Capricon, and both Saturn

> > > and Ketu are placed in my UL and AL. But I have Venus and Rahu in yuti in

> > > 7th from my UL and AL, which is Cancer. And my moon is in Revati in 12 house

> > > in rashi.

> > >

> > > Its interesting, when Vistiji looked at my chart, he said that Venus

> > > yuti with Rahu in 7th from UL meant that my husband will have jealous

> > > ex-girlfriends.

> > >

> > > Looking forward to your comments,

> > >

> > > Best wishes to all in 2007,

> > > ND

> > >

> > >

> > > *"A. Ravindran Nair" <rain13club >* wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Arvind,

> > >

> > > UL in Capricon means the 7th is Cancer and its Lord is Moon. So, the

> > > mother-law will become the villain.

> > >

> > > Hope Rafalji had this in mind.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Ravi Nair

> > >

> > >

> > > *Aravinda <aru_dulla >* wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rafal.......why is UL in capricorn bad? In what context? This

> > > is a rule or is it subjective?

> > >

> > > regards

> > > Aru

> > >

> > > <%40>,

> > > "Rafal Gendarz"

> > > <starsuponme wrote:

> > > >

> > > > vyam vyasadevaya namah

> > > > Dear Pratosh,

> > > >

> > > > Answers below.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > prathoshg

> > > > <%40>

> > > > Monday, January 01, 2007 6:49 PM

> > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me

> > > Hare Krishna

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > My Queries

> > > >

> > > > 1.It is said Planets in 7th and 12th from UL Will Oppose

> > > Marriage so

> > > > if There is a planet like rahu we say foreigner and what abt

> > > Ketu in

> > > > 7th from UL ??????????

> > > >

> > > > [rafal] rahu is foreigner but ketu can show other tradition

> > > within same country. ketu represents unpredictable, spontaneous and

> > > often antagonist of social rules. rahu in seventh from upapada

> > > indicate spiritual spouse especially after 45..in those cases kids

> > > and ganapati puja are important.

> > > >

> > > > Seventh bhava means opposition, but 12H bhava can mean that You

> > > dont have contact with that specific person from inlaw side. (taking

> > > al as lagna here)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 2.Suppose if there are no Planets in 7th from UL can we take the

> > > lord

> > > > of 7th from UL as Opposing ?????????????

> > > >

> > > > [rafal] You can. Sanjay therefore says that upapada in capricorn

> > > is bad. You should know why..

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 3.Guru ji Sanjay rath in one of lecture has said 7th house in

> > > navamsa

> > > > for spouse attitude Then if i have Guru and Mangala in 7th House

> > > in

> > > > Navamsa it becomes Guru Mangala Yoga is That Good bec Guru in

> > > 7th in

> > > > navamsa with mars Sanjay ji has said They will get Lucky

> > > Spouse ??????????\

> > > >

> > > > [rafal] This means that spouse should digest emotion of these

> > > grahas. Attitude is connected to choices (dhi sakti - jupiter - paka

> > > lagna) so Saptamesh would tell more..but its issue with definitions.

> > > Jupiter gives spouse with controlled senses (all classics says

> > > that). Mangal in seventh can give person without limbs or with scars

> > > (i believe bphs). First spouse of native should share traits of Guru

> > > and Mangal (attraction to spiritual literature and kantaka yuddha

> > > (JS) - fight abilities, this can also shows engineering). Mangal as

> > > agni tattwa with Jupiter often gives Jyotisha but Sanjay wrote in

> > > one article that Rahu signifies Jyotisha..anyway hope I answered

> > > Your question..being mithuna Lagna - so many cases are rising

> > > throughout answering..

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 4.For me AK IS SUN IS NEECHA IN RASI AND EXALTED IN NAVAMSA IN

> > > 6TH

> > > > UPACHAYA BHAVA WHETHER IT IS GOOD

> > > >

> > > > [rafal] jataka parijata says that first we see effect in rasi,

> > > then navamsa. malefics deb in dushtana are good as enemy is

> > > destroyed..sun in sixth is good...ak in sixth can show many vices or

> > > attraction for the same..being sun you cant admit it/recognize it.

> > > om vishnave namah - six letters..

> > > >

> > > > 5.can we believe That rahu as Atmakaraka Spouse will be Good and

> > > wont

> > > > cheat us Generally asking Since i have heard rahu as atma means

> > > They

> > > > will get cheated more and will be Good in heart and Spiritual is

> > > that

> > > > true?????

> > > >

> > > > [rafal] you cant judge person by one yoga.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Thanking u

> > > > prathosh

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > http://mail.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > http://mail.

> > >

> > >

> >

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hraum namah adityaya

Dear Swati,

 

replies under.

 

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

 

-

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Tuesday, January 02, 2007 4:24 PM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me Hare Krishna

 

 

Hare Rama krsna

Dear Rafalji ,

Thanks for ur comments..They were really helpful.

And yes i remember Sanjayji's discourse on 7th house from Al as dwara to rise.

1 Could u please elaborate on conditions of cancellation of MKS.?

 

 

[rafal] i was taught three methods. a) jagganath drekkana and second is :

b) see if karaka of bhava is in trikona (Lakshmi) to Surya or Lagna. (note : this can be also used in varga-chars with respect to karyabhava).

c) if graha is exalted then it can be only initially and native is rescued through Visnu blessings (exalted grahas are like Visnu)

 

2. secondly in a chart when two planets are MKS, consider merc or mars is MKS in 7th, the karak of that house is Venus . Venus is also MKS in 6th.. which houses will have more troubles? how will the cancellations work ?

 

 

[rafal] Its hard to say which bhava has more affliction by seeing only these two things You proposed. If Surya is in arthatrikona then lordship governed by seventh bhava occupants is partly rescued. Navamsa is also Visnu!

 

 

3. Upchaya houses are always beyond overcontrol. Is this why 11th house is considered natural badhaksthan? When dual lagna or fixed lagna is rising, how does 11th house work?

 

[rafal] I have eleventh lord in seventh bhava. It gives religiousity (ninth is distance) but also it gives too many control in my relations and they burn due to that. This control comes through karak medium - protection (ma). So its Over (11L) protection(ma) which gives troubles to reasoning (7h) and death to friend circle (11L). This also cause unpredictable (pisaca) problems (badhak) due to desires (kendra), but this makes one very good at occult and mantra (these graha are in kona to karakamsa - 3 grahas!). Mangal is not so bad as exalted in Trimsamsa-Shastyamsa.

 

October 25, 1982

Time: 19:37:42

Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 18 E 41' 00", 50 N 13' 00"

 

 

Swati

Namah Shivaya

 

 

 

On 1/2/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote:

 

hare rama krsna

Dear Swami,

Comments under Your notes.

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

 

-

healing spaces

Tuesday, January 02, 2007 2:31 PM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me Hare Krishna

 

 

Hare Rama krsna

Dear Rafalji

 

 

1. What about obstructions from one's own family members ? how do we see that?

 

[rafal] Ninth lord in seventh is one of that Yoga when father go against You in marriage. You can see also Devata of Grahas in 4/12 in Dwadasaamsa. See also Luminaries in seventh from AL. Mangal is Your brother and Venus is Your sister.

 

{Swati} Why should 9th lord in 7th obstruct marriage, would it not be more fortunate spouse for the native. Also would it not depend of nature of planet that father supports or obstructs...

 

[rafal] Well..this is what I was taught by Guruji and I saw it works... I remember this Yoga so I mentioned it..in Muhurta even Jupiter in 7 is bad for marriage so 9L can show too much bothering (from 9 to 7 is upachaya and upachaya lords shows something overcontrol).

 

 

 

in accordance with UL , the planets in 7th or 12th would show the opposition from spouses family ? and for opposition from our family we see 7th and 12th to AL .

 

 

[rafal] 7H from AL can cause many good things..therefore we always look at Hari-Hara-Brahma Yoga seeing Lagnesh, Visnu (2H) and Ganesh (7H) from lagnapada..find that chapter in BPHS where Maharishi mentioned Ve-Ju Yoga in 7H from AL - read that chapter. 12 from AL is what we reject (if AL lord is involved) or what cause expenses (see natural karaka's).

 

2. if the 7th lord and Ul lord is placed in 6th from venus , while venus is itslef in MKS what results?

 

[rafal] See if Sani is in kona to Lagna or Surya.

 

{swati} What would saturn deliver if its in trine?

 

[rafal] Isnt Sani karaka for sixth bhava ? There is cancelation of MKS...

 

 

In my virgo lagna lord chart the Ul sagi lord and 7th pisces lord jupiter is in 11th house exalted...Ak venus is in 6th house while saturn is in 12th. sun is in 8th house in trine to saturn rahu.

 

 

i think the first Ul would not fructify or come in existence. am i right?

 

[rafal] If Upapada lord is wellplaced then it must come to existence. If its in bad position from AL or dushtana in d9 you can reject this however.

 

 

 

Warm regards for new year

 

[rafal] Thank You and good Jyotish studies in 2007.

 

 

Swati

 

 

 

 

On 1/2/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote:

 

hraum namah adityaya

Dear Swati

comments below

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

 

 

 

 

 

Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Rafalji,

1. What about obstructions from one's own family members ? how do we see that?

 

[rafal] Ninth lord in seventh is one of that Yoga when father go against You in marriage. You can see also Devata of Grahas in 4/12 in Dwadasaamsa. See also Luminaries in seventh from AL. Mangal is Your brother and Venus is Your sister.

 

 

2. if the 7th lord and Ul lord is placed in 6th from venus , while venus is itslef in MKS what results?

 

[rafal] See if Sani is in kona to Lagna or Surya.

 

 

Swati

Namah Shivaya

 

 

On 1/2/07, ND <nadiadeol (AT) (DOT) ca> wrote:

Dear Ravi ji,

 

How about when the mother-in-law is dead already?

 

Rafal ji,

 

I am very curious to discover why UL in Capricon is bad as well, since I have my UL in Capricon, but I also have my AL in Capricon, and both Saturn and Ketu are placed in my UL and AL. But I have Venus and Rahu in yuti in 7th from my UL and AL, which is Cancer. And my moon is in Revati in 12 house in rashi.

 

Its interesting, when Vistiji looked at my chart, he said that Venus yuti with Rahu in 7th from UL meant that my husband will have jealous ex-girlfriends.

 

Looking forward to your comments,

 

Best wishes to all in 2007,

ND

 

 

 

"A. Ravindran Nair" <rain13club > wrote:

Dear Arvind,

 

UL in Capricon means the 7th is Cancer and its Lord is Moon. So, the mother-law will become the villain.

 

Hope Rafalji had this in mind.

 

Regards

 

Ravi Nair

 

 

Aravinda <aru_dulla > wrote:

Dear Rafal.......why is UL in capricorn bad? In what context? This

is a rule or is it subjective?

 

regards

Aru

 

, "Rafal Gendarz"

<starsuponme wrote:

>

> vyam vyasadevaya namah

> Dear Pratosh,

>

> Answers below.

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> -

> prathoshg

>

> Monday, January 01, 2007 6:49 PM

> [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me

Hare Krishna

>

>

> My Queries

>

> 1.It is said Planets in 7th and 12th from UL Will Oppose

Marriage so

> if There is a planet like rahu we say foreigner and what abt

Ketu in

> 7th from UL ??????????

>

> [rafal] rahu is foreigner but ketu can show other tradition

within same country. ketu represents unpredictable, spontaneous and

often antagonist of social rules. rahu in seventh from upapada

indicate spiritual spouse especially after 45..in those cases kids

and ganapati puja are important.

>

> Seventh bhava means opposition, but 12H bhava can mean that You

dont have contact with that specific person from inlaw side.. (taking

al as lagna here)

>

>

> 2.Suppose if there are no Planets in 7th from UL can we take the

lord

> of 7th from UL as Opposing ?????????????

>

> [rafal] You can. Sanjay therefore says that upapada in capricorn

is bad. You should know why..

>

>

> 3.Guru ji Sanjay rath in one of lecture has said 7th house in

navamsa

> for spouse attitude Then if i have Guru and Mangala in 7th House

in

> Navamsa it becomes Guru Mangala Yoga is That Good bec Guru in

7th in

> navamsa with mars Sanjay ji has said They will get Lucky

Spouse ??????????\

>

> [rafal] This means that spouse should digest emotion of these

grahas. Attitude is connected to choices (dhi sakti - jupiter - paka

lagna) so Saptamesh would tell more..but its issue with definitions.

Jupiter gives spouse with controlled senses (all classics says

that). Mangal in seventh can give person without limbs or with scars

(i believe bphs). First spouse of native should share traits of Guru

and Mangal (attraction to spiritual literature and kantaka yuddha

(JS) - fight abilities, this can also shows engineering). Mangal as

agni tattwa with Jupiter often gives Jyotisha but Sanjay wrote in

one article that Rahu signifies Jyotisha..anyway hope I answered

Your question..being mithuna Lagna - so many cases are rising

throughout answering..

>

>

>

> 4.For me AK IS SUN IS NEECHA IN RASI AND EXALTED IN NAVAMSA IN

6TH

> UPACHAYA BHAVA WHETHER IT IS GOOD

>

> [rafal] jataka parijata says that first we see effect in rasi,

then navamsa. malefics deb in dushtana are good as enemy is

destroyed..sun in sixth is good...ak in sixth can show many vices or

attraction for the same..being sun you cant admit it/recognize it.

om vishnave namah - six letters..

>

> 5.can we believe That rahu as Atmakaraka Spouse will be Good and

wont

> cheat us Generally asking Since i have heard rahu as atma means

They

> will get cheated more and will be Good in heart and Spiritual is

that

> true?????

>

> [rafal] you cant judge person by one yoga.

>

>

>

>

> Thanking u

> prathosh

>

 

 

 

 

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Hare rama krsna

Dear Rafalji,Thanks...

1.Sorry can u explain what the way in Jagnannath drekanna... to see

cancellation of MKS?

2. No my sun is in moksha trikona. my sun in in 8th making mars and mercury

MKS, which are themselves in 7th house.. Venus is in 6th house, while

Jupiter in 11th is in 6th to venus. i see ur mars and merc also in MKS:)

here are the details.

Date 15th April 1979,

Time 18:05 (rectification time may be 18:00)

Place Jaipur city 75 E 49 , 26 N 55

Time zone 5 : 30 (East of GMT )

3.. Thanks for your chart I shall go over it....i think ur 11th lord in 7th

will get u self-earning spouse and will aid u in getting income too. yes

probably u will have obstructions from friends. how do u see the role of

jupiter a badhakesh?

u also have three planets in MKS. Ur mercury is definitely well placed.

Do u have exalted mars in D-30 D-60..i am getting in aries and pisces

Thanks Swati

Namah Shivaya

 

 

On 1/2/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote:

>

> *hraum namah adityaya*

> *Dear Swati,*

> **

> *replies under.*

> **

> *Regards*

> *Rafal Gendarz*

>

>

> -

> ** healing spaces <healingspaces >

> *To:*

> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 02, 2007 4:24 PM

> *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me Hare

> Krishna

>

> Hare Rama krsna

> Dear Rafalji ,

> Thanks for ur comments..They were really helpful.

> And yes i remember Sanjayji's discourse on 7th house from Al as dwara to

> rise.

> 1 Could u please elaborate on conditions of cancellation of MKS.?

> [rafal] i was taught three methods. a) jagganath drekkana and second is :

> b) see if karaka of bhava is in trikona (Lakshmi) to Surya or Lagna. (note

> : this can be also used in varga-chars with respect to karyabhava).

> c) if graha is exalted then it can be only initially and native is rescued

> through Visnu blessings (exalted grahas are like Visnu)

>

>

> 2. secondly in a chart when two planets are MKS, consider merc or mars is

> MKS in 7th, the karak of that house is Venus . Venus is also MKS in 6th.

> which houses will have more troubles? how will the cancellations work ?

>

> [rafal] Its hard to say which bhava has more affliction by seeing only

> these two things You proposed. If Surya is in arthatrikona then lordship

> governed by seventh bhava occupants is partly rescued. Navamsa is also

> Visnu!

>

>

> 3. Upchaya houses are always beyond overcontrol. Is this why 11th house is

> considered natural badhaksthan? When dual lagna or fixed lagna is rising,

> how does 11th house work?

>

> *[rafal] I have eleventh lord in seventh bhava. It gives religiousity

> (ninth is distance) but also it gives too many control in my relations and

> they burn due to that. This control comes through karak medium - protection

> (ma). So its Over (11L) protection(ma) which gives troubles to reasoning

> (7h) and death to friend circle (11L). This also cause unpredictable

> (pisaca) problems (badhak) due to desires (kendra), but this makes one very

> good at occult and mantra (these graha are in kona to karakamsa - 3

> grahas!). Mangal is not so bad as exalted in Trimsamsa-Shastyamsa.*

>

> * October 25, 1982

> Time: 19:37:42

> Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)

> Place: 18 E 41' 00", 50 N 13' 00"*

>

>

> Swati

> Namah Shivaya

>

>

> On 1/2/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote:

> >

> > *hare rama krsna*

> > *Dear Swami,*

> > *Comments under Your notes.*

> > *Regards*

> > *Rafal Gendarz*

> >

> >

> > -

> > ** healing spaces <healingspaces >

> > *To:*

> > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 02, 2007 2:31 PM

> > *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me Hare

> > Krishna

> >

> > Hare Rama krsna

> > Dear Rafalji

> >

> > 1. What about obstructions from one's own family members ? how do we see

> > that?

> >

> > [rafal] Ninth lord in seventh is one of that Yoga when father go against

> > You in marriage. You can see also Devata of Grahas in 4/12 in

> > Dwadasaamsa. See also Luminaries in seventh from AL. Mangal is Your brother

> > and Venus is Your sister.

> >

> > {Swati} Why should 9th lord in 7th obstruct marriage, would it not be

> > more fortunate spouse for the native. Also would it not depend of nature of

> > planet that father supports or obstructs...

> >

> > *[rafal] Well..this is what I was taught by Guruji and I saw it works..

> > I remember this Yoga so I mentioned it..in Muhurta even Jupiter in 7 is bad

> > for marriage so 9L can show too much bothering (from 9 to 7 is upachaya and

> > upachaya lords shows something overcontrol).*

> >

> >

> > in accordance with UL , the planets in 7th or 12th would show the

> > opposition from spouses family ? and for opposition from our family we see

> > 7th and 12th to AL .

> >

> > *[rafal] 7H from AL can cause many good things..therefore we always look

> > at Hari-Hara-Brahma Yoga seeing Lagnesh, Visnu (2H) and Ganesh (7H) from

> > lagnapada..find that chapter in BPHS where Maharishi mentioned Ve-Ju Yoga in

> > 7H from AL - read that chapter. 12 from AL is what we reject (if AL lord is

> > involved) or what cause expenses (see natural karaka's).*

> >

> > 2. if the 7th lord and Ul lord is placed in 6th from venus , while

> > venus is itslef in MKS what results?

> >

> > [rafal] See if Sani is in kona to Lagna or Surya.

> >

> > {swati} What would saturn deliver if its in trine?

> >

> > *[rafal] Isnt Sani karaka for sixth bhava ? There is cancelation of

> > MKS...*

> >

> >

> > In my virgo lagna lord chart the Ul sagi lord and 7th pisces lord

> > jupiter is in 11th house exalted...Ak venus is in 6th house while saturn is

> > in 12th. sun is in 8th house in trine to saturn rahu.

> >

> > i think the first Ul would not fructify or come in existence. am i

> > right?

> >

> > *[rafal] If Upapada lord is wellplaced then it must come to existence.

> > If its in bad position from AL or dushtana in d9 you can reject this

> > however.*

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Warm regards for new year

> >

> > *[rafal] Thank You and good Jyotish studies in 2007.*

> >

> > Swati

> >

> > On 1/2/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote:

> > >

> > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > *Dear Swati*

> > > *comments below*

> > > *Regards*

> > > *Rafal Gendarz*

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hare Rama Krsna

> > > Dear Rafalji,

> > > 1. What about obstructions from one's own family members ? how do we

> > > see that?

> > >

> > > [rafal] Ninth lord in seventh is one of that Yoga when father go

> > > against You in marriage. You can see also Devata of Grahas in 4/12 in

> > > Dwadasaamsa. See also Luminaries in seventh from AL. Mangal is Your brother

> > > and Venus is Your sister.

> > >

> > >

> > > 2. if the 7th lord and Ul lord is placed in 6th from venus , while

> > > venus is itslef in MKS what results?

> > >

> > > [rafal] See if Sani is in kona to Lagna or Surya.

> > >

> > >

> > > Swati

> > > Namah Shivaya

> > > On 1/2/07, ND <nadiadeol (AT) (DOT) ca> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ravi ji,

> > > >

> > > > How about when the mother-in-law is dead already?

> > > >

> > > > Rafal ji,

> > > >

> > > > I am very curious to discover why UL in Capricon is bad as well,

> > > > since I have my UL in Capricon, but I also have my AL in Capricon, and both

> > > > Saturn and Ketu are placed in my UL and AL. But I have Venus and Rahu in

> > > > yuti in 7th from my UL and AL, which is Cancer. And my moon is in Revati in

> > > > 12 house in rashi.

> > > >

> > > > Its interesting, when Vistiji looked at my chart, he said that Venus

> > > > yuti with Rahu in 7th from UL meant that my husband will have jealous

> > > > ex-girlfriends.

> > > >

> > > > Looking forward to your comments,

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes to all in 2007,

> > > > ND

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > *"A. Ravindran Nair" <rain13club >* wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Arvind,

> > > >

> > > > UL in Capricon means the 7th is Cancer and its Lord is Moon. So,

> > > > the mother-law will become the villain.

> > > >

> > > > Hope Rafalji had this in mind.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > Ravi Nair

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > *Aravinda <aru_dulla >* wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rafal.......why is UL in capricorn bad? In what context? This

> > > > is a rule or is it subjective?

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > > Aru

> > > >

> > > > <%40>,

> > > > "Rafal Gendarz"

> > > > <starsuponme wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > vyam vyasadevaya namah

> > > > > Dear Pratosh,

> > > > >

> > > > > Answers below.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > prathoshg

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > > Monday, January 01, 2007 6:49 PM

> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me

> > > > Hare Krishna

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > My Queries

> > > > >

> > > > > 1.It is said Planets in 7th and 12th from UL Will Oppose

> > > > Marriage so

> > > > > if There is a planet like rahu we say foreigner and what abt

> > > > Ketu in

> > > > > 7th from UL ??????????

> > > > >

> > > > > [rafal] rahu is foreigner but ketu can show other tradition

> > > > within same country. ketu represents unpredictable, spontaneous and

> > > > often antagonist of social rules. rahu in seventh from upapada

> > > > indicate spiritual spouse especially after 45..in those cases kids

> > > > and ganapati puja are important.

> > > > >

> > > > > Seventh bhava means opposition, but 12H bhava can mean that You

> > > > dont have contact with that specific person from inlaw side. (taking

> > > >

> > > > al as lagna here)

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > 2.Suppose if there are no Planets in 7th from UL can we take the

> > > > lord

> > > > > of 7th from UL as Opposing ?????????????

> > > > >

> > > > > [rafal] You can. Sanjay therefore says that upapada in capricorn

> > > > is bad. You should know why..

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > 3.Guru ji Sanjay rath in one of lecture has said 7th house in

> > > > navamsa

> > > > > for spouse attitude Then if i have Guru and Mangala in 7th House

> > > > in

> > > > > Navamsa it becomes Guru Mangala Yoga is That Good bec Guru in

> > > > 7th in

> > > > > navamsa with mars Sanjay ji has said They will get Lucky

> > > > Spouse ??????????\

> > > > >

> > > > > [rafal] This means that spouse should digest emotion of these

> > > > grahas. Attitude is connected to choices (dhi sakti - jupiter - paka

> > > >

> > > > lagna) so Saptamesh would tell more..but its issue with definitions.

> > > >

> > > > Jupiter gives spouse with controlled senses (all classics says

> > > > that). Mangal in seventh can give person without limbs or with scars

> > > >

> > > > (i believe bphs). First spouse of native should share traits of Guru

> > > >

> > > > and Mangal (attraction to spiritual literature and kantaka yuddha

> > > > (JS) - fight abilities, this can also shows engineering). Mangal as

> > > > agni tattwa with Jupiter often gives Jyotisha but Sanjay wrote in

> > > > one article that Rahu signifies Jyotisha..anyway hope I answered

> > > > Your question..being mithuna Lagna - so many cases are rising

> > > > throughout answering..

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > 4.For me AK IS SUN IS NEECHA IN RASI AND EXALTED IN NAVAMSA IN

> > > > 6TH

> > > > > UPACHAYA BHAVA WHETHER IT IS GOOD

> > > > >

> > > > > [rafal] jataka parijata says that first we see effect in rasi,

> > > > then navamsa. malefics deb in dushtana are good as enemy is

> > > > destroyed..sun in sixth is good...ak in sixth can show many vices or

> > > >

> > > > attraction for the same..being sun you cant admit it/recognize it.

> > > > om vishnave namah - six letters..

> > > > >

> > > > > 5.can we believe That rahu as Atmakaraka Spouse will be Good and

> > > > wont

> > > > > cheat us Generally asking Since i have heard rahu as atma means

> > > > They

> > > > > will get cheated more and will be Good in heart and Spiritual is

> > > > that

> > > > > true?????

> > > > >

> > > > > [rafal] you cant judge person by one yoga.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanking u

> > > > > prathosh

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > http://mail.

> > > >

> > > >

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hraum namah adityaya

Dear Swati, Namaskar

comments below.

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

 

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Tuesday, January 02, 2007 8:50 PM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me Hare Krishna

 

 

Hare rama krsna

Dear Rafalji, Thanks...

1.Sorry can u explain what the way in Jagnannath drekanna... to see cancellation of MKS?

 

[rafal] maybe later..

 

3.. Thanks for your chart I shall go over it....i think ur 11th lord in 7th will get u self-earning spouse and will aid u in getting income too. yes probably u will have obstructions from friends. how do u see the role of jupiter a badhakesh?

u also have three planets in MKS. Ur mercury is definitely well placed.

Do u have exalted mars in D-30 D-60..i am getting in aries and pisces

 

[rafal] a) there is theory that when grahas are in badhakplace then we dont look at badhakesh. indeed badhakesh in curse its bad thing..hopefully its in kona and chara-navaamsa.

b) its trimsamsa like shastyamsa. click on your d30 in jhora then there is option to choose "trimsamsa like shastyamsa" where benediction from Devata's is seen..

 

 

Thanks Swati

Namah Shivaya

 

 

 

 

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hraum namah adityaya

Dear Swati,

 

replies under.

 

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

 

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Tuesday, January 02, 2007 4:24 PM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me Hare Krishna

 

 

Hare Rama krsna

Dear Rafalji ,

Thanks for ur comments..They were really helpful.

And yes i remember Sanjayji's discourse on 7th house from Al as dwara to rise.

1 Could u please elaborate on conditions of cancellation of MKS.?

 

 

[rafal] i was taught three methods. a) jagganath drekkana and second is :

b) see if karaka of bhava is in trikona (Lakshmi) to Surya or Lagna. (note : this can be also used in varga-chars with respect to karyabhava).

c) if graha is exalted then it can be only initially and native is rescued through Visnu blessings (exalted grahas are like Visnu)

 

2. secondly in a chart when two planets are MKS, consider merc or mars is MKS in 7th, the karak of that house is Venus . Venus is also MKS in 6th. which houses will have more troubles? how will the cancellations work ?

 

 

[rafal] Its hard to say which bhava has more affliction by seeing only these two things You proposed. If Surya is in arthatrikona then lordship governed by seventh bhava occupants is partly rescued. Navamsa is also Visnu!

 

 

3. Upchaya houses are always beyond overcontrol. Is this why 11th house is considered natural badhaksthan? When dual lagna or fixed lagna is rising, how does 11th house work?

 

[rafal] I have eleventh lord in seventh bhava. It gives religiousity (ninth is distance) but also it gives too many control in my relations and they burn due to that. This control comes through karak medium - protection (ma). So its Over (11L) protection(ma) which gives troubles to reasoning (7h) and death to friend circle (11L). This also cause unpredictable (pisaca) problems (badhak) due to desires (kendra), but this makes one very good at occult and mantra (these graha are in kona to karakamsa - 3 grahas!). Mangal is not so bad as exalted in Trimsamsa-Shastyamsa.

 

October 25, 1982

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Place: 18 E 41' 00", 50 N 13' 00"

 

 

Swati

Namah Shivaya

 

 

 

 

 

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hare rama krsna

Dear Swami,

Comments under Your notes.

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

 

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Tuesday, January 02, 2007 2:31 PM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me Hare Krishna

 

 

Hare Rama krsna

Dear Rafalji

 

 

1. What about obstructions from one's own family members ? how do we see that?

 

[rafal] Ninth lord in seventh is one of that Yoga when father go against You in marriage. You can see also Devata of Grahas in 4/12 in Dwadasaamsa. See also Luminaries in seventh from AL. Mangal is Your brother and Venus is Your sister.

 

{Swati} Why should 9th lord in 7th obstruct marriage, would it not be more fortunate spouse for the native. Also would it not depend of nature of planet that father supports or obstructs...

 

[rafal] Well..this is what I was taught by Guruji and I saw it works.. I remember this Yoga so I mentioned it..in Muhurta even Jupiter in 7 is bad for marriage so 9L can show too much bothering (from 9 to 7 is upachaya and upachaya lords shows something overcontrol).

 

 

 

in accordance with UL , the planets in 7th or 12th would show the opposition from spouses family ? and for opposition from our family we see 7th and 12th to AL .

 

 

 

[rafal] 7H from AL can cause many good things..therefore we always look at Hari-Hara-Brahma Yoga seeing Lagnesh, Visnu (2H) and Ganesh (7H) from lagnapada..find that chapter in BPHS where Maharishi mentioned Ve-Ju Yoga in 7H from AL - read that chapter. 12 from AL is what we reject (if AL lord is involved) or what cause expenses (see natural karaka's).

 

 

2. if the 7th lord and Ul lord is placed in 6th from venus , while venus is itslef in MKS what results?

 

[rafal] See if Sani is in kona to Lagna or Surya.

 

{swati} What would saturn deliver if its in trine?

 

[rafal] Isnt Sani karaka for sixth bhava ? There is cancelation of MKS...

 

 

In my virgo lagna lord chart the Ul sagi lord and 7th pisces lord jupiter is in 11th house exalted...Ak venus is in 6th house while saturn is in 12th. sun is in 8th house in trine to saturn rahu.

 

 

i think the first Ul would not fructify or come in existence. am i right?

 

[rafal] If Upapada lord is wellplaced then it must come to existence. If its in bad position from AL or dushtana in d9 you can reject this however.

 

 

 

Warm regards for new year

 

[rafal] Thank You and good Jyotish studies in 2007.

 

 

Swati

 

 

 

 

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hraum namah adityaya

Dear Swati

comments below

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

 

 

 

 

 

Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Rafalji,

1. What about obstructions from one's own family members ? how do we see that?

 

[rafal] Ninth lord in seventh is one of that Yoga when father go against You in marriage. You can see also Devata of Grahas in 4/12 in Dwadasaamsa. See also Luminaries in seventh from AL. Mangal is Your brother and Venus is Your sister.

 

 

2. if the 7th lord and Ul lord is placed in 6th from venus , while venus is itslef in MKS what results?

 

[rafal] See if Sani is in kona to Lagna or Surya.

 

 

Swati

Namah Shivaya

 

 

On 1/2/07, ND <nadiadeol (AT) (DOT) ca > wrote:

Dear Ravi ji,

 

How about when the mother-in-law is dead already?

 

Rafal ji,

 

I am very curious to discover why UL in Capricon is bad as well, since I have my UL in Capricon, but I also have my AL in Capricon, and both Saturn and Ketu are placed in my UL and AL. But I have Venus and Rahu in yuti in 7th from my UL and AL, which is Cancer. And my moon is in Revati in 12 house in rashi.

 

Its interesting, when Vistiji looked at my chart, he said that Venus yuti with Rahu in 7th from UL meant that my husband will have jealous ex-girlfriends.

 

Looking forward to your comments,

 

Best wishes to all in 2007,

ND

 

 

 

"A. Ravindran Nair" <rain13club > wrote:

Dear Arvind,

 

UL in Capricon means the 7th is Cancer and its Lord is Moon.. So, the mother-law will become the villain.

 

Hope Rafalji had this in mind.

 

Regards

 

Ravi Nair

 

 

Aravinda <aru_dulla > wrote:

Dear Rafal.......why is UL in capricorn bad? In what context? This

is a rule or is it subjective?

 

regards

Aru

 

, "Rafal Gendarz"

<starsuponme wrote:

>

> vyam vyasadevaya namah

> Dear Pratosh,

>

> Answers below.

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> -

> prathoshg

>

> Monday, January 01, 2007 6:49 PM

> [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me

Hare Krishna

>

>

> My Queries

>

> 1.It is said Planets in 7th and 12th from UL Will Oppose

Marriage so

> if There is a planet like rahu we say foreigner and what abt

Ketu in

> 7th from UL ??????????

>

> [rafal] rahu is foreigner but ketu can show other tradition

within same country. ketu represents unpredictable, spontaneous and

often antagonist of social rules. rahu in seventh from upapada

indicate spiritual spouse especially after 45..in those cases kids

and ganapati puja are important.

>

> Seventh bhava means opposition, but 12H bhava can mean that You

dont have contact with that specific person from inlaw side. (taking

al as lagna here)

>

>

> 2.Suppose if there are no Planets in 7th from UL can we take the

lord

> of 7th from UL as Opposing ?????????????

>

> [rafal] You can. Sanjay therefore says that upapada in capricorn

is bad. You should know why..

>

>

> 3.Guru ji Sanjay rath in one of lecture has said 7th house in

navamsa

> for spouse attitude Then if i have Guru and Mangala in 7th House

in

> Navamsa it becomes Guru Mangala Yoga is That Good bec Guru in

7th in

> navamsa with mars Sanjay ji has said They will get Lucky

Spouse ??????????\

>

> [rafal] This means that spouse should digest emotion of these

grahas. Attitude is connected to choices (dhi sakti - jupiter - paka

lagna) so Saptamesh would tell more..but its issue with definitions.

Jupiter gives spouse with controlled senses (all classics says

that). Mangal in seventh can give person without limbs or with scars

(i believe bphs). First spouse of native should share traits of Guru

and Mangal (attraction to spiritual literature and kantaka yuddha

(JS) - fight abilities, this can also shows engineering). Mangal as

agni tattwa with Jupiter often gives Jyotisha but Sanjay wrote in

one article that Rahu signifies Jyotisha..anyway hope I answered

Your question..being mithuna Lagna - so many cases are rising

throughout answering..

>

>

>

> 4.For me AK IS SUN IS NEECHA IN RASI AND EXALTED IN NAVAMSA IN

6TH

> UPACHAYA BHAVA WHETHER IT IS GOOD

>

> [rafal] jataka parijata says that first we see effect in rasi,

then navamsa. malefics deb in dushtana are good as enemy is

destroyed..sun in sixth is good...ak in sixth can show many vices or

attraction for the same..being sun you cant admit it/recognize it.

om vishnave namah - six letters..

>

> 5.can we believe That rahu as Atmakaraka Spouse will be Good and

wont

> cheat us Generally asking Since i have heard rahu as atma means

They

> will get cheated more and will be Good in heart and Spiritual is

that

> true?????

>

> [rafal] you cant judge person by one yoga.

>

>

>

>

> Thanking u

> prathosh

>

 

 

 

 

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Dear Rafal........thank you for your replies. I have one more

question. What if the the lord of AL itself is placed in the seventh

from it. For example, I have my AL in kumbha and sani and rahu are

in leo. Both sani and rahu are co-lords of Kumbha. What happens

then. Should we imply that the benefic does good when it is placed

in the 7th from AL even if it is malefic/badhakesh w.r.t AL?

 

regards

Aru

 

 

 

 

 

 

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>

> Dear Aravinda,

> Seventh bhava is dwara. It can be dwara to other life (like 7H

from Lagna - if Mars You are born on Island), or it can be dwara to

Your prestige (Arudha). Where the person is standing on the dwara -

he can help You (benefic with good diptadiavashta in 7 from AL) or

he can block You (malefic there - see Rama chart). So if empty see

the position and Yoga's of this Moon.

>

> In early times of discovering these all rules every newborn

Jyotisha was applying every possible thing He could imagine like

seeing 12L from AL from A7 in D10..with time and experience we see

WHAT IS RELEVANT. That cause also with Guru-krpa and His

Sakti..brhaspati.

>

> See 7 and 12 from Karakamsa to see your chances to rebirth or

moksa. We shouldnt apply these rules without proper understanding

and it comes through third eye - therefore three Deities in Jyotish

are important Surya, Visnu and Siva - every Rsi pay attention to one

of them.

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

> -

> Aravinda

>

> Tuesday, January 02, 2007 2:17 PM

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me

Hare Krishna

>

>

> Dear Ravi.......in that case all persons who have UL in the

> capricorn have villainous mother in laws?! I think there's more

to

> this than just lordship. Lordship of the house doesn't determine

> everything. I would say an afflicted moon badly placed w.r.t UL

will

> determine that. Rafalji please explain this in detail.

>

> regards

> Aravinda

>

> , "A. Ravindran Nair"

> <rain13club@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Arvind,

> >

> > UL in Capricon means the 7th is Cancer and its Lord is Moon.

> So, the mother-law will become the villain.

> >

> > Hope Rafalji had this in mind.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Ravi Nair

> >

> >

> > Aravinda <aru_dulla@> wrote:

> > Dear Rafal.......why is UL in capricorn bad? In what

> context? This

> > is a rule or is it subjective?

> >

> > regards

> > Aru

> >

> > , "Rafal Gendarz"

> > <starsuponme@> wrote:

> > >

> > > vyam vyasadevaya namah

> > > Dear Pratosh,

> > >

> > > Answers below.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > >

> > > -

> > > prathoshg

> > >

> > > Monday, January 01, 2007 6:49 PM

> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me

> > Hare Krishna

> > >

> > >

> > > My Queries

> > >

> > > 1.It is said Planets in 7th and 12th from UL Will Oppose

> > Marriage so

> > > if There is a planet like rahu we say foreigner and what abt

> > Ketu in

> > > 7th from UL ??????????

> > >

> > > [rafal] rahu is foreigner but ketu can show other tradition

> > within same country. ketu represents unpredictable,

spontaneous

> and

> > often antagonist of social rules. rahu in seventh from upapada

> > indicate spiritual spouse especially after 45..in those cases

kids

> > and ganapati puja are important.

> > >

> > > Seventh bhava means opposition, but 12H bhava can mean that

You

> > dont have contact with that specific person from inlaw side.

> (taking

> > al as lagna here)

> > >

> > >

> > > 2.Suppose if there are no Planets in 7th from UL can we take

the

> > lord

> > > of 7th from UL as Opposing ?????????????

> > >

> > > [rafal] You can. Sanjay therefore says that upapada in

capricorn

> > is bad. You should know why..

> > >

> > >

> > > 3.Guru ji Sanjay rath in one of lecture has said 7th house

in

> > navamsa

> > > for spouse attitude Then if i have Guru and Mangala in 7th

House

> > in

> > > Navamsa it becomes Guru Mangala Yoga is That Good bec Guru

in

> > 7th in

> > > navamsa with mars Sanjay ji has said They will get Lucky

> > Spouse ??????????\

> > >

> > > [rafal] This means that spouse should digest emotion of

these

> > grahas. Attitude is connected to choices (dhi sakti - jupiter -

 

> paka

> > lagna) so Saptamesh would tell more..but its issue with

> definitions.

> > Jupiter gives spouse with controlled senses (all classics says

> > that). Mangal in seventh can give person without limbs or with

> scars

> > (i believe bphs). First spouse of native should share traits

of

> Guru

> > and Mangal (attraction to spiritual literature and kantaka

yuddha

> > (JS) - fight abilities, this can also shows engineering).

Mangal

> as

> > agni tattwa with Jupiter often gives Jyotisha but Sanjay wrote

in

> > one article that Rahu signifies Jyotisha..anyway hope I

answered

> > Your question..being mithuna Lagna - so many cases are rising

> > throughout answering..

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > 4.For me AK IS SUN IS NEECHA IN RASI AND EXALTED IN NAVAMSA

IN

> > 6TH

> > > UPACHAYA BHAVA WHETHER IT IS GOOD

> > >

> > > [rafal] jataka parijata says that first we see effect in

rasi,

> > then navamsa. malefics deb in dushtana are good as enemy is

> > destroyed..sun in sixth is good...ak in sixth can show many

vices

> or

> > attraction for the same..being sun you cant admit it/recognize

it.

> > om vishnave namah - six letters..

> > >

> > > 5.can we believe That rahu as Atmakaraka Spouse will be Good

and

> > wont

> > > cheat us Generally asking Since i have heard rahu as atma

means

> > They

> > > will get cheated more and will be Good in heart and

Spiritual is

> > that

> > > true?????

> > >

> > > [rafal] you cant judge person by one yoga.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Thanking u

> > > prathosh

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Dear Arvind,

When we have planets in 7th from UL, then we need to consider that. If there are no planets in 7th from UL, then only the lord of 7th is taken as opposition to UL.

Since Venus and Rahu are in 7th from UL, then it can be as Vishtiji stated or another possibility is that it can be the husband's sisters.

Regards

Ravi Nair

 

ND <nadiadeol (AT) (DOT) ca> wrote:

Dear Ravi ji,

 

How about when the mother-in-law is dead already?

 

Rafal ji,

 

I am very curious to discover why UL in Capricon is bad as well, since I have my UL in Capricon, but I also have my AL in Capricon, and both Saturn and Ketu are placed in my UL and AL. But I have Venus and Rahu in yuti in 7th from my UL and AL, which is Cancer. And my moon is in Revati in 12 house in rashi.

 

Its interesting, when Vistiji looked at my chart, he said that Venus yuti with Rahu in 7th from UL meant that my husband will have jealous ex-girlfriends.

 

Looking forward to your comments,

 

Best wishes to all in 2007,

ND

 

"A. Ravindran Nair" <rain13club > wrote:

Dear Arvind,

UL in Capricon means the 7th is Cancer and its Lord is Moon. So, the mother-law will become the villain.

Hope Rafalji had this in mind.

Regards

Ravi Nair

 

Aravinda <aru_dulla > wrote:

Dear Rafal.......why is UL in capricorn bad? In what context? This

is a rule or is it subjective?

 

regards

Aru

 

, "Rafal Gendarz"

<starsuponme wrote:

>

> vyam vyasadevaya namah

> Dear Pratosh,

>

> Answers below.

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> -

> prathoshg

>

> Monday, January 01, 2007 6:49 PM

> [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me

Hare Krishna

>

>

> My Queries

>

> 1.It is said Planets in 7th and 12th from UL Will Oppose

Marriage so

> if There is a planet like rahu we say foreigner and what abt

Ketu in

> 7th from UL ??????????

>

> [rafal] rahu is foreigner but ketu can show other tradition

within same country. ketu represents unpredictable, spontaneous and

often antagonist of social rules. rahu in seventh from upapada

indicate spiritual spouse especially after 45..in those cases kids

and ganapati puja are important.

>

> Seventh bhava means opposition, but 12H bhava can mean that You

dont have contact with that specific person from inlaw side. (taking

al as lagna here)

>

>

> 2.Suppose if there are no Planets in 7th from UL can we take the

lord

> of 7th from UL as Opposing ?????????????

>

> [rafal] You can. Sanjay therefore says that upapada in capricorn

is bad. You should know why..

>

>

> 3.Guru ji Sanjay rath in one of lecture has said 7th house in

navamsa

> for spouse attitude Then if i have Guru and Mangala in 7th House

in

> Navamsa it becomes Guru Mangala Yoga is That Good bec Guru in

7th in

> navamsa with mars Sanjay ji has said They will get Lucky

Spouse ??????????\

>

> [rafal] This means that spouse should digest emotion of these

grahas. Attitude is connected to choices (dhi sakti - jupiter - paka

lagna) so Saptamesh would tell more..but its issue with definitions.

Jupiter gives spouse with controlled senses (all classics says

that). Mangal in seventh can give person without limbs or with scars

(i believe bphs). First spouse of native should share traits of Guru

and Mangal (attraction to spiritual literature and kantaka yuddha

(JS) - fight abilities, this can also shows engineering). Mangal as

agni tattwa with Jupiter often gives Jyotisha but Sanjay wrote in

one article that Rahu signifies Jyotisha..anyway hope I answered

Your question..being mithuna Lagna - so many cases are rising

throughout answering..

>

>

>

> 4.For me AK IS SUN IS NEECHA IN RASI AND EXALTED IN NAVAMSA IN

6TH

> UPACHAYA BHAVA WHETHER IT IS GOOD

>

> [rafal] jataka parijata says that first we see effect in rasi,

then navamsa. malefics deb in dushtana are good as enemy is

destroyed..sun in sixth is good...ak in sixth can show many vices or

attraction for the same..being sun you cant admit it/recognize it.

om vishnave namah - six letters..

>

> 5.can we believe That rahu as Atmakaraka Spouse will be Good and

wont

> cheat us Generally asking Since i have heard rahu as atma means

They

> will get cheated more and will be Good in heart and Spiritual is

that

> true?????

>

> [rafal] you cant judge person by one yoga.

>

>

>

>

> Thanking u

> prathosh

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Rafaliji,

Thanks...a lot

Shall wait for ur discourse of cancellation of MKS in jagannath drekanna..

Also don't know how to see the *"trimsamsa like shastyamsa". So shall wait

for me to learn the basics on this. where can i read on these both?

U mentioned when there are planets in badhaksthan, then badhakesh no more

plays a role in obstructions. So in ur chart Jupiter as badhakesh is not

much a problem. infact its ur Atmakaraka , in 5th house with sun, and saturn

, also aspect of rahu , so probably a brahmin sharpa. Since its lord of two

kendras, it needs much more strength, than it has. am i right? since its in

kona to sun and lagna , it shall do u good and protects ur dharma trikona.

What about char-navamsa? how does that help?

In my chart i have jupiter as badhakesh, but since there are planets in

badhakthan, jupiter may not be obstruction maker. But it is not in kona to

lagna and sun, nor in char -navamsa, its in kona to debilated moon though.

U think Jupiter is pure benefic for me. it is also exalted in my chart

altough in saturn nakshatra.

Wishes swati

Namah Shivaya

 

*

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>

> *hraum namah adityaya*

> *Dear Swati, Namaskar*

> *comments below.*

> *Regards*

> *Rafal Gendarz*

>

>

> -

> ** healing spaces <healingspaces >

> *To:*

> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 02, 2007 8:50 PM

> *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me Hare

> Krishna

>

> Hare rama krsna

> Dear Rafalji, Thanks...

> 1.Sorry can u explain what the way in Jagnannath drekanna... to see

> cancellation of MKS?

>

> *[rafal] maybe later..*

>

> 3.. Thanks for your chart I shall go over it....i think ur 11th lord in

> 7th will get u self-earning spouse and will aid u in getting income too. yes

> probably u will have obstructions from friends. how do u see the role of

> jupiter a badhakesh?

> u also have three planets in MKS. Ur mercury is definitely well placed.

> Do u have exalted mars in D-30 D-60..i am getting in aries and pisces

> *[rafal] a) there is theory that when grahas are in badhakplace then we

> dont look at badhakesh. indeed badhakesh in curse its bad thing..hopefully

> its in kona and chara-navaamsa.*

> *b) its trimsamsa like shastyamsa. click on your d30 in jhora then there

> is option to choose "trimsamsa like shastyamsa" where benediction from

> Devata's is seen..*

>

>

>

> Thanks Swati

> Namah Shivaya

>

>

> On 1/2/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote:

> >

> > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > *Dear Swati,*

> > **

> > *replies under.*

> > **

> > *Regards*

> > *Rafal Gendarz*

> >

> >

> > -

> > ** healing spaces <healingspaces >

> > *To:*

> > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 02, 2007 4:24 PM

> > *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me Hare

> > Krishna

> >

> > Hare Rama krsna

> > Dear Rafalji ,

> > Thanks for ur comments..They were really helpful.

> > And yes i remember Sanjayji's discourse on 7th house from Al as dwara

> > to rise.

> > 1 Could u please elaborate on conditions of cancellation of MKS.?

> > [rafal] i was taught three methods. a) jagganath drekkana and second is

> > :

> > b) see if karaka of bhava is in trikona (Lakshmi) to Surya or Lagna.

> > (note : this can be also used in varga-chars with respect to karyabhava).

> > c) if graha is exalted then it can be only initially and native is

> > rescued through Visnu blessings (exalted grahas are like Visnu)

> >

> >

> > 2. secondly in a chart when two planets are MKS, consider merc or mars

> > is MKS in 7th, the karak of that house is Venus . Venus is also MKS in

> > 6th. which houses will have more troubles? how will the cancellations work

> > ?

> >

> > [rafal] Its hard to say which bhava has more affliction by seeing only

> > these two things You proposed. If Surya is in arthatrikona then lordship

> > governed by seventh bhava occupants is partly rescued. Navamsa is also

> > Visnu!

> >

> >

> > 3. Upchaya houses are always beyond overcontrol. Is this why 11th house

> > is considered natural badhaksthan? When dual lagna or fixed lagna is

> > rising, how does 11th house work?

> >

> > *[rafal] I have eleventh lord in seventh bhava. It gives religiousity

> > (ninth is distance) but also it gives too many control in my relations and

> > they burn due to that. This control comes through karak medium - protection

> > (ma). So its Over (11L) protection(ma) which gives troubles to reasoning

> > (7h) and death to friend circle (11L). This also cause unpredictable

> > (pisaca) problems (badhak) due to desires (kendra), but this makes one very

> > good at occult and mantra (these graha are in kona to karakamsa - 3

> > grahas!). Mangal is not so bad as exalted in Trimsamsa-Shastyamsa.*

> >

> > * October 25, 1982

> > Time: 19:37:42

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> > Place: 18 E 41' 00", 50 N 13' 00"*

> >

> >

> > Swati

> > Namah Shivaya

> >

> >

> > On 1/2/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote:

> > >

> > > *hare rama krsna*

> > > *Dear Swami,*

> > > *Comments under Your notes.*

> > > *Regards*

> > > *Rafal Gendarz*

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > ** healing spaces <healingspaces >

> > > *To:*

> > > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 02, 2007 2:31 PM

> > > *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me

> > > Hare Krishna

> > >

> > > Hare Rama krsna

> > > Dear Rafalji

> > >

> > > 1. What about obstructions from one's own family members ? how do we

> > > see that?

> > >

> > > [rafal] Ninth lord in seventh is one of that Yoga when father go

> > > against You in marriage. You can see also Devata of Grahas in 4/12 in

> > > Dwadasaamsa. See also Luminaries in seventh from AL. Mangal is Your brother

> > > and Venus is Your sister.

> > >

> > > {Swati} Why should 9th lord in 7th obstruct marriage, would it not be

> > > more fortunate spouse for the native. Also would it not depend of nature of

> > > planet that father supports or obstructs...

> > >

> > > *[rafal] Well..this is what I was taught by Guruji and I saw it

> > > works.. I remember this Yoga so I mentioned it..in Muhurta even Jupiter in 7

> > > is bad for marriage so 9L can show too much bothering (from 9 to 7 is

> > > upachaya and upachaya lords shows something overcontrol).*

> > >

> > >

> > > in accordance with UL , the planets in 7th or 12th would show the

> > > opposition from spouses family ? and for opposition from our family we see

> > > 7th and 12th to AL .

> > >

> > > *[rafal] 7H from AL can cause many good things..therefore we always

> > > look at Hari-Hara-Brahma Yoga seeing Lagnesh, Visnu (2H) and Ganesh (7H)

> > > from lagnapada..find that chapter in BPHS where Maharishi mentioned Ve-Ju

> > > Yoga in 7H from AL - read that chapter. 12 from AL is what we reject (if AL

> > > lord is involved) or what cause expenses (see natural karaka's).*

> > >

> > > 2. if the 7th lord and Ul lord is placed in 6th from venus , while

> > > venus is itslef in MKS what results?

> > >

> > > [rafal] See if Sani is in kona to Lagna or Surya.

> > >

> > > {swati} What would saturn deliver if its in trine?

> > >

> > > *[rafal] Isnt Sani karaka for sixth bhava ? There is cancelation of

> > > MKS...*

> > >

> > >

> > > In my virgo lagna lord chart the Ul sagi lord and 7th pisces lord

> > > jupiter is in 11th house exalted...Ak venus is in 6th house while saturn is

> > > in 12th. sun is in 8th house in trine to saturn rahu.

> > >

> > > i think the first Ul would not fructify or come in existence. am i

> > > right?

> > >

> > > *[rafal] If Upapada lord is wellplaced then it must come to existence.

> > > If its in bad position from AL or dushtana in d9 you can reject this

> > > however.*

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Warm regards for new year

> > >

> > > *[rafal] Thank You and good Jyotish studies in 2007.*

> > >

> > > Swati

> > >

> > > On 1/2/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > *Dear Swati*

> > > > *comments below*

> > > > *Regards*

> > > > *Rafal Gendarz*

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hare Rama Krsna

> > > > Dear Rafalji,

> > > > 1. What about obstructions from one's own family members ? how do we

> > > > see that?

> > > >

> > > > [rafal] Ninth lord in seventh is one of that Yoga when father go

> > > > against You in marriage. You can see also Devata of Grahas in 4/12 in

> > > > Dwadasaamsa. See also Luminaries in seventh from AL. Mangal is Your brother

> > > > and Venus is Your sister.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 2. if the 7th lord and Ul lord is placed in 6th from venus , while

> > > > venus is itslef in MKS what results?

> > > >

> > > > [rafal] See if Sani is in kona to Lagna or Surya.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Swati

> > > > Namah Shivaya

> > > > On 1/2/07, ND <nadiadeol (AT) (DOT) ca > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ravi ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > How about when the mother-in-law is dead already?

> > > > >

> > > > > Rafal ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I am very curious to discover why UL in Capricon is bad as well,

> > > > > since I have my UL in Capricon, but I also have my AL in Capricon, and both

> > > > > Saturn and Ketu are placed in my UL and AL. But I have Venus and Rahu in

> > > > > yuti in 7th from my UL and AL, which is Cancer. And my moon is in Revati in

> > > > > 12 house in rashi.

> > > > >

> > > > > Its interesting, when Vistiji looked at my chart, he said that

> > > > > Venus yuti with Rahu in 7th from UL meant that my husband will have jealous

> > > > > ex-girlfriends.

> > > > >

> > > > > Looking forward to your comments,

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes to all in 2007,

> > > > > ND

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > *"A. Ravindran Nair" <rain13club >* wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Arvind,

> > > > >

> > > > > UL in Capricon means the 7th is Cancer and its Lord is Moon. So,

> > > > > the mother-law will become the villain.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hope Rafalji had this in mind.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > >

> > > > > Ravi Nair

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > *Aravinda <aru_dulla >* wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rafal.......why is UL in capricorn bad? In what context?

> > > > > This

> > > > > is a rule or is it subjective?

> > > > >

> > > > > regards

> > > > > Aru

> > > > >

> > > > > <%40>,

> > > > > "Rafal Gendarz"

> > > > > <starsuponme wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vyam vyasadevaya namah

> > > > > > Dear Pratosh,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Answers below.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > prathoshg

> > > > > >

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > > > Monday, January 01, 2007 6:49 PM

> > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me

> > > > > Hare Krishna

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My Queries

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1.It is said Planets in 7th and 12th from UL Will Oppose

> > > > > Marriage so

> > > > > > if There is a planet like rahu we say foreigner and what abt

> > > > > Ketu in

> > > > > > 7th from UL ??????????

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [rafal] rahu is foreigner but ketu can show other tradition

> > > > > within same country. ketu represents unpredictable, spontaneous

> > > > > and

> > > > > often antagonist of social rules. rahu in seventh from upapada

> > > > > indicate spiritual spouse especially after 45..in those cases kids

> > > > >

> > > > > and ganapati puja are important.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Seventh bhava means opposition, but 12H bhava can mean that You

> > > > > dont have contact with that specific person from inlaw side.

> > > > > (taking

> > > > > al as lagna here)

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2.Suppose if there are no Planets in 7th from UL can we take the

> > > > >

> > > > > lord

> > > > > > of 7th from UL as Opposing ?????????????

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [rafal] You can. Sanjay therefore says that upapada in capricorn

> > > > >

> > > > > is bad. You should know why..

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3.Guru ji Sanjay rath in one of lecture has said 7th house in

> > > > > navamsa

> > > > > > for spouse attitude Then if i have Guru and Mangala in 7th House

> > > > >

> > > > > in

> > > > > > Navamsa it becomes Guru Mangala Yoga is That Good bec Guru in

> > > > > 7th in

> > > > > > navamsa with mars Sanjay ji has said They will get Lucky

> > > > > Spouse ??????????\

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [rafal] This means that spouse should digest emotion of these

> > > > > grahas. Attitude is connected to choices (dhi sakti - jupiter -

> > > > > paka

> > > > > lagna) so Saptamesh would tell more..but its issue with

> > > > > definitions.

> > > > > Jupiter gives spouse with controlled senses (all classics says

> > > > > that). Mangal in seventh can give person without limbs or with

> > > > > scars

> > > > > (i believe bphs). First spouse of native should share traits of

> > > > > Guru

> > > > > and Mangal (attraction to spiritual literature and kantaka yuddha

> > > > > (JS) - fight abilities, this can also shows engineering). Mangal

> > > > > as

> > > > > agni tattwa with Jupiter often gives Jyotisha but Sanjay wrote in

> > > > > one article that Rahu signifies Jyotisha..anyway hope I answered

> > > > > Your question..being mithuna Lagna - so many cases are rising

> > > > > throughout answering..

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4.For me AK IS SUN IS NEECHA IN RASI AND EXALTED IN NAVAMSA IN

> > > > > 6TH

> > > > > > UPACHAYA BHAVA WHETHER IT IS GOOD

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [rafal] jataka parijata says that first we see effect in rasi,

> > > > > then navamsa. malefics deb in dushtana are good as enemy is

> > > > > destroyed..sun in sixth is good...ak in sixth can show many vices

> > > > > or

> > > > > attraction for the same..being sun you cant admit it/recognize it.

> > > > >

> > > > > om vishnave namah - six letters..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 5.can we believe That rahu as Atmakaraka Spouse will be Good and

> > > > >

> > > > > wont

> > > > > > cheat us Generally asking Since i have heard rahu as atma means

> > > > > They

> > > > > > will get cheated more and will be Good in heart and Spiritual is

> > > > >

> > > > > that

> > > > > > true?????

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [rafal] you cant judge person by one yoga.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanking u

> > > > > > prathosh

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Dear Aru, Namaskar

 

(1)In this regard I was taught like that : native is his own blockage/release.

(2)Any afflicted graha in 7 from AL makes social life blocked. You cant rise. Jyotish is complex so try to link badhakesh, charakarakas, arudha's but do it in subtle manner with a lot of examples to confirm Your research.

Example: AK as badhakesh makes one his own obstacle - this is from Sanjay Rath - and He connects here Badhak and Chara-karaka level.

 

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

 

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Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me Hare Krishna

 

 

Dear Rafal........thank you for your replies. I have one more

question. What if the the lord of AL itself is placed in the seventh

from it. For example, I have my AL in kumbha and sani and rahu are

in leo. Both sani and rahu are co-lords of Kumbha. What happens

then. Should we imply that the benefic does good when it is placed

in the 7th from AL even if it is malefic/badhakesh w.r.t AL?

 

regards

Aru

 

, "Rafal Gendarz"

<starsuponme wrote:

>

> Dear Aravinda,

> Seventh bhava is dwara. It can be dwara to other life (like 7H

from Lagna - if Mars You are born on Island), or it can be dwara to

Your prestige (Arudha). Where the person is standing on the dwara -

he can help You (benefic with good diptadiavashta in 7 from AL) or

he can block You (malefic there - see Rama chart). So if empty see

the position and Yoga's of this Moon.

>

> In early times of discovering these all rules every newborn

Jyotisha was applying every possible thing He could imagine like

seeing 12L from AL from A7 in D10..with time and experience we see

WHAT IS RELEVANT. That cause also with Guru-krpa and His

Sakti..brhaspati.

>

> See 7 and 12 from Karakamsa to see your chances to rebirth or

moksa. We shouldnt apply these rules without proper understanding

and it comes through third eye - therefore three Deities in Jyotish

are important Surya, Visnu and Siva - every Rsi pay attention to one

of them.

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

> -

> Aravinda

>

> Tuesday, January 02, 2007 2:17 PM

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me

Hare Krishna

>

>

> Dear Ravi.......in that case all persons who have UL in the

> capricorn have villainous mother in laws?! I think there's more

to

> this than just lordship. Lordship of the house doesn't determine

> everything. I would say an afflicted moon badly placed w.r.t UL

will

> determine that. Rafalji please explain this in detail.

>

> regards

> Aravinda

>

> , "A. Ravindran Nair"

> <rain13club@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Arvind,

> >

> > UL in Capricon means the 7th is Cancer and its Lord is Moon.

> So, the mother-law will become the villain.

> >

> > Hope Rafalji had this in mind.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Ravi Nair

> >

> >

> > Aravinda <aru_dulla@> wrote:

> > Dear Rafal.......why is UL in capricorn bad? In what

> context? This

> > is a rule or is it subjective?

> >

> > regards

> > Aru

> >

> > , "Rafal Gendarz"

> > <starsuponme@> wrote:

> > >

> > > vyam vyasadevaya namah

> > > Dear Pratosh,

> > >

> > > Answers below.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > >

> > > -

> > > prathoshg

> > >

> > > Monday, January 01, 2007 6:49 PM

> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me

> > Hare Krishna

> > >

> > >

> > > My Queries

> > >

> > > 1.It is said Planets in 7th and 12th from UL Will Oppose

> > Marriage so

> > > if There is a planet like rahu we say foreigner and what abt

> > Ketu in

> > > 7th from UL ??????????

> > >

> > > [rafal] rahu is foreigner but ketu can show other tradition

> > within same country. ketu represents unpredictable,

spontaneous

> and

> > often antagonist of social rules. rahu in seventh from upapada

> > indicate spiritual spouse especially after 45..in those cases

kids

> > and ganapati puja are important.

> > >

> > > Seventh bhava means opposition, but 12H bhava can mean that

You

> > dont have contact with that specific person from inlaw side.

> (taking

> > al as lagna here)

> > >

> > >

> > > 2.Suppose if there are no Planets in 7th from UL can we take

the

> > lord

> > > of 7th from UL as Opposing ?????????????

> > >

> > > [rafal] You can. Sanjay therefore says that upapada in

capricorn

> > is bad. You should know why..

> > >

> > >

> > > 3.Guru ji Sanjay rath in one of lecture has said 7th house

in

> > navamsa

> > > for spouse attitude Then if i have Guru and Mangala in 7th

House

> > in

> > > Navamsa it becomes Guru Mangala Yoga is That Good bec Guru

in

> > 7th in

> > > navamsa with mars Sanjay ji has said They will get Lucky

> > Spouse ??????????\

> > >

> > > [rafal] This means that spouse should digest emotion of

these

> > grahas. Attitude is connected to choices (dhi sakti - jupiter -

 

> paka

> > lagna) so Saptamesh would tell more..but its issue with

> definitions.

> > Jupiter gives spouse with controlled senses (all classics says

> > that). Mangal in seventh can give person without limbs or with

> scars

> > (i believe bphs). First spouse of native should share traits

of

> Guru

> > and Mangal (attraction to spiritual literature and kantaka

yuddha

> > (JS) - fight abilities, this can also shows engineering).

Mangal

> as

> > agni tattwa with Jupiter often gives Jyotisha but Sanjay wrote

in

> > one article that Rahu signifies Jyotisha..anyway hope I

answered

> > Your question..being mithuna Lagna - so many cases are rising

> > throughout answering..

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > 4.For me AK IS SUN IS NEECHA IN RASI AND EXALTED IN NAVAMSA

IN

> > 6TH

> > > UPACHAYA BHAVA WHETHER IT IS GOOD

> > >

> > > [rafal] jataka parijata says that first we see effect in

rasi,

> > then navamsa. malefics deb in dushtana are good as enemy is

> > destroyed..sun in sixth is good...ak in sixth can show many

vices

> or

> > attraction for the same..being sun you cant admit it/recognize

it.

> > om vishnave namah - six letters..

> > >

> > > 5.can we believe That rahu as Atmakaraka Spouse will be Good

and

> > wont

> > > cheat us Generally asking Since i have heard rahu as atma

means

> > They

> > > will get cheated more and will be Good in heart and

Spiritual is

> > that

> > > true?????

> > >

> > > [rafal] you cant judge person by one yoga.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Thanking u

> > > prathosh

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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vyam vyasadevaya namah

Dear Swati,

replies under.

regards

Rafal Gendarz

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Wednesday, January 03, 2007 8:44 AM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me Hare Krishna

 

 

Dear Rafaliji,

Thanks...a lot

Shall wait for ur discourse of cancellation of MKS in jagannath drekanna... Also don't know how to see the "trimsamsa like shastyamsa".

 

[rafal] if You are using Jhora software then its quite easy..choose d30 varga and then click once more and then you can three option "parasari", "parivrtti" and "shastyamsa like trimsamsa".

 

U mentioned when there are planets in badhaksthan, then badhakesh no more plays a role in obstructions. So in ur chart Jupiter as badhakesh is not much a problem.

 

[rafal] Lets say that pisaca is real badhak in my case, while Guru is also badhak-Isa involved in curse.

 

infact its ur Atmakaraka , in 5th house with sun, and saturn , also aspect of rahu , so probably a brahmin sharpa.

 

[rafal] Yes. Brahmana-saapa thats main problem. Luckily Jupiter has no high diptadi avastha and chaara-d1&d9.

 

since its in kona to sun and lagna , it shall do u good and protects ur dharma trikona.

 

[rafal] Sun and Lagna kona see with regard to karaka of bhavas which have mks-graha. Jupiter in fifth bhava gives ayana of kama and karma and get Lakshmi (fortune) help of 5H and 9H (Sani) - therefore its full Raja Yoga in 2 from AL.

 

What about char-navamsa? how does that help?

 

[rafal] It means problem can be easily removed. Fixed/vargottam/vakri are worst in that case. Also avastha of cursed graha is of utmost importance.

 

In my chart i have jupiter as badhakesh, but since there are planets in badhakthan, jupiter may not be obstruction maker. But it is not in kona to lagna and sun, nor in char -navamsa, its in kona to debilated moon though. U think Jupiter is pure benefic for me. it is also exalted in my chart altough in saturn nakshatra.

 

[rafal] Nakshatras shows Your mind reaction.

 

 

Wishes swati

Namah Shivaya

 

 

 

 

On 1/3/07, Rafal Gendarz < starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote:

 

hraum namah adityaya

Dear Swati, Namaskar

comments below.

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

 

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Tuesday, January 02, 2007 8:50 PM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me Hare Krishna

 

 

Hare rama krsna

Dear Rafalji, Thanks...

1.Sorry can u explain what the way in Jagnannath drekanna... to see cancellation of MKS?

 

[rafal] maybe later..

 

3.. Thanks for your chart I shall go over it....i think ur 11th lord in 7th will get u self-earning spouse and will aid u in getting income too. yes probably u will have obstructions from friends. how do u see the role of jupiter a badhakesh?

u also have three planets in MKS. Ur mercury is definitely well placed.

Do u have exalted mars in D-30 D-60..i am getting in aries and pisces

 

[rafal] a) there is theory that when grahas are in badhakplace then we dont look at badhakesh. indeed badhakesh in curse its bad thing..hopefully its in kona and chara-navaamsa.

b) its trimsamsa like shastyamsa. click on your d30 in jhora then there is option to choose "trimsamsa like shastyamsa" where benediction from Devata's is seen..

 

 

Thanks Swati

Namah Shivaya

 

 

 

 

On 1/2/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote:

 

hraum namah adityaya

Dear Swati,

 

replies under.

 

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

 

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Tuesday, January 02, 2007 4:24 PM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me Hare Krishna

 

 

Hare Rama krsna

Dear Rafalji ,

Thanks for ur comments..They were really helpful.

And yes i remember Sanjayji's discourse on 7th house from Al as dwara to rise.

1 Could u please elaborate on conditions of cancellation of MKS.?

 

 

[rafal] i was taught three methods. a) jagganath drekkana and second is :

b) see if karaka of bhava is in trikona (Lakshmi) to Surya or Lagna. (note : this can be also used in varga-chars with respect to karyabhava).

c) if graha is exalted then it can be only initially and native is rescued through Visnu blessings (exalted grahas are like Visnu)

 

2. secondly in a chart when two planets are MKS, consider merc or mars is MKS in 7th, the karak of that house is Venus . Venus is also MKS in 6th. which houses will have more troubles? how will the cancellations work ?

 

 

[rafal] Its hard to say which bhava has more affliction by seeing only these two things You proposed. If Surya is in arthatrikona then lordship governed by seventh bhava occupants is partly rescued. Navamsa is also Visnu!

 

 

3. Upchaya houses are always beyond overcontrol. Is this why 11th house is considered natural badhaksthan? When dual lagna or fixed lagna is rising, how does 11th house work?

 

[rafal] I have eleventh lord in seventh bhava. It gives religiousity (ninth is distance) but also it gives too many control in my relations and they burn due to that. This control comes through karak medium - protection (ma). So its Over (11L) protection(ma) which gives troubles to reasoning (7h) and death to friend circle (11L). This also cause unpredictable (pisaca) problems (badhak) due to desires (kendra), but this makes one very good at occult and mantra (these graha are in kona to karakamsa - 3 grahas!).. Mangal is not so bad as exalted in Trimsamsa-Shastyamsa.

 

October 25, 1982

Time: 19:37:42

Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 18 E 41' 00", 50 N 13' 00"

 

 

Swati

Namah Shivaya

 

 

 

 

 

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hare rama krsna

Dear Swami,

Comments under Your notes.

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

 

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Tuesday, January 02, 2007 2:31 PM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me Hare Krishna

 

 

Hare Rama krsna

Dear Rafalji

 

 

1. What about obstructions from one's own family members ? how do we see that?

 

[rafal] Ninth lord in seventh is one of that Yoga when father go against You in marriage. You can see also Devata of Grahas in 4/12 in Dwadasaamsa. See also Luminaries in seventh from AL. Mangal is Your brother and Venus is Your sister.

 

{Swati} Why should 9th lord in 7th obstruct marriage, would it not be more fortunate spouse for the native. Also would it not depend of nature of planet that father supports or obstructs...

 

[rafal] Well..this is what I was taught by Guruji and I saw it works.. I remember this Yoga so I mentioned it..in Muhurta even Jupiter in 7 is bad for marriage so 9L can show too much bothering (from 9 to 7 is upachaya and upachaya lords shows something overcontrol).

 

 

 

in accordance with UL , the planets in 7th or 12th would show the opposition from spouses family ? and for opposition from our family we see 7th and 12th to AL .

 

 

 

 

[rafal] 7H from AL can cause many good things..therefore we always look at Hari-Hara-Brahma Yoga seeing Lagnesh, Visnu (2H) and Ganesh (7H) from lagnapada..find that chapter in BPHS where Maharishi mentioned Ve-Ju Yoga in 7H from AL - read that chapter. 12 from AL is what we reject (if AL lord is involved) or what cause expenses (see natural karaka's).

 

 

 

2. if the 7th lord and Ul lord is placed in 6th from venus , while venus is itslef in MKS what results?

 

[rafal] See if Sani is in kona to Lagna or Surya.

 

{swati} What would saturn deliver if its in trine?

 

[rafal] Isnt Sani karaka for sixth bhava ? There is cancelation of MKS...

 

 

In my virgo lagna lord chart the Ul sagi lord and 7th pisces lord jupiter is in 11th house exalted...Ak venus is in 6th house while saturn is in 12th. sun is in 8th house in trine to saturn rahu.

 

 

i think the first Ul would not fructify or come in existence. am i right?

 

[rafal] If Upapada lord is wellplaced then it must come to existence. If its in bad position from AL or dushtana in d9 you can reject this however.

 

 

 

Warm regards for new year

 

[rafal] Thank You and good Jyotish studies in 2007.

 

 

Swati

 

 

 

 

On 1/2/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote:

 

hraum namah adityaya

Dear Swati

comments below

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

 

 

 

 

 

Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Rafalji,

1. What about obstructions from one's own family members ? how do we see that?

 

[rafal] Ninth lord in seventh is one of that Yoga when father go against You in marriage. You can see also Devata of Grahas in 4/12 in Dwadasaamsa. See also Luminaries in seventh from AL. Mangal is Your brother and Venus is Your sister.

 

 

2. if the 7th lord and Ul lord is placed in 6th from venus , while venus is itslef in MKS what results?

 

[rafal] See if Sani is in kona to Lagna or Surya.

 

 

Swati

Namah Shivaya

 

 

On 1/2/07, ND <nadiadeol (AT) (DOT) ca > wrote:

Dear Ravi ji,

 

How about when the mother-in-law is dead already?

 

Rafal ji,

 

I am very curious to discover why UL in Capricon is bad as well, since I have my UL in Capricon, but I also have my AL in Capricon, and both Saturn and Ketu are placed in my UL and AL. But I have Venus and Rahu in yuti in 7th from my UL and AL, which is Cancer. And my moon is in Revati in 12 house in rashi.

 

Its interesting, when Vistiji looked at my chart, he said that Venus yuti with Rahu in 7th from UL meant that my husband will have jealous ex-girlfriends.

 

Looking forward to your comments,

 

Best wishes to all in 2007,

ND

 

 

 

"A. Ravindran Nair" <rain13club > wrote:

Dear Arvind,

 

UL in Capricon means the 7th is Cancer and its Lord is Moon. So, the mother-law will become the villain.

 

Hope Rafalji had this in mind.

 

Regards

 

Ravi Nair

 

 

Aravinda <aru_dulla > wrote:

Dear Rafal.......why is UL in capricorn bad? In what context? This

is a rule or is it subjective?

 

regards

Aru

 

, "Rafal Gendarz"

<starsuponme wrote:

>

> vyam vyasadevaya namah

> Dear Pratosh,

>

> Answers below.

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> -

> prathoshg

>

> Monday, January 01, 2007 6:49 PM

> [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me

Hare Krishna

>

>

> My Queries

>

> 1.It is said Planets in 7th and 12th from UL Will Oppose

Marriage so

> if There is a planet like rahu we say foreigner and what abt

Ketu in

> 7th from UL ??????????

>

> [rafal] rahu is foreigner but ketu can show other tradition

within same country. ketu represents unpredictable, spontaneous and

often antagonist of social rules. rahu in seventh from upapada

indicate spiritual spouse especially after 45..in those cases kids

and ganapati puja are important.

>

> Seventh bhava means opposition, but 12H bhava can mean that You

dont have contact with that specific person from inlaw side. (taking

al as lagna here)

>

>

> 2.Suppose if there are no Planets in 7th from UL can we take the

lord

> of 7th from UL as Opposing ?????????????

>

> [rafal] You can. Sanjay therefore says that upapada in capricorn

is bad. You should know why..

>

>

> 3.Guru ji Sanjay rath in one of lecture has said 7th house in

navamsa

> for spouse attitude Then if i have Guru and Mangala in 7th House

in

> Navamsa it becomes Guru Mangala Yoga is That Good bec Guru in

7th in

> navamsa with mars Sanjay ji has said They will get Lucky

Spouse ??????????\

>

> [rafal] This means that spouse should digest emotion of these

grahas. Attitude is connected to choices (dhi sakti - jupiter - paka

lagna) so Saptamesh would tell more..but its issue with definitions.

Jupiter gives spouse with controlled senses (all classics says

that). Mangal in seventh can give person without limbs or with scars

(i believe bphs). First spouse of native should share traits of Guru

and Mangal (attraction to spiritual literature and kantaka yuddha

(JS) - fight abilities, this can also shows engineering). Mangal as

agni tattwa with Jupiter often gives Jyotisha but Sanjay wrote in

one article that Rahu signifies Jyotisha..anyway hope I answered

Your question..being mithuna Lagna - so many cases are rising

throughout answering..

>

>

>

> 4.For me AK IS SUN IS NEECHA IN RASI AND EXALTED IN NAVAMSA IN

6TH

> UPACHAYA BHAVA WHETHER IT IS GOOD

>

> [rafal] jataka parijata says that first we see effect in rasi,

then navamsa. malefics deb in dushtana are good as enemy is

destroyed..sun in sixth is good...ak in sixth can show many vices or

attraction for the same..being sun you cant admit it/recognize it.

om vishnave namah - six letters..

>

> 5.can we believe That rahu as Atmakaraka Spouse will be Good and

wont

> cheat us Generally asking Since i have heard rahu as atma means

They

> will get cheated more and will be Good in heart and Spiritual is

that

> true?????

>

> [rafal] you cant judge person by one yoga.

>

>

>

>

> Thanking u

> prathosh

>

 

 

 

 

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Vyom Vyasadevya namah

dear rafalji

Thanks..

If the cursed graha is also ones Ak one faces a lot of hardships .. Does it

help by its weak strength in *diptadi avastha or any other avastha.* Also

does it help it being MKS. what if the same graha is ones yogkaraka. Should

one strengthen such a graha.

in my chart Venus is Ak , MKs , cursed planet. and yogkaraka. Also its a

the avyogi planet as explained by Bharatji.

15th april 1979

18:05

jaipur city rajasthan 75 E 49 26 N 55

swati

Namah shivaya

 

 

 

On 1/3/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote:

>

> vyam vyasadevaya namah

> Dear Swati,

> replies under.

> regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> -

> ** healing spaces <healingspaces >

> *To:*

> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 03, 2007 8:44 AM

> *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me Hare

> Krishna

>

> Dear Rafaliji,

> Thanks...a lot

> Shall wait for ur discourse of cancellation of MKS in jagannath drekanna..

> Also don't know how to see the *"trimsamsa like shastyamsa".*

>

> *[rafal] if You are using Jhora software then its quite easy..choose d30

> varga and then click once more and then you can three option "parasari",

> "parivrtti" and "shastyamsa like trimsamsa".*

>

> *

> U mentioned when there are planets in badhaksthan, then badhakesh no more

> plays a role in obstructions. So in ur chart Jupiter as badhakesh is not

> much a problem.*

>

> *[rafal] Lets say that pisaca is real badhak in my case, while Guru is

> also badhak-Isa involved in curse.*

>

> * infact its ur Atmakaraka , in 5th house with sun, and saturn , also

> aspect of rahu , so probably a brahmin sharpa.*

>

> *[rafal] Yes. Brahmana-saapa thats main problem. Luckily Jupiter has no

> high diptadi avastha and chaara-d1&d9.*

>

> *since its in kona to sun and lagna , it shall do u good and protects ur

> dharma trikona.*

>

> *[rafal] Sun and Lagna kona see with regard to karaka of bhavas which have

> mks-graha. Jupiter in fifth bhava gives ayana of kama and karma and get

> Lakshmi (fortune) help of 5H and 9H (Sani) - therefore its full Raja Yoga in

> 2 from AL.*

>

> * What about char-navamsa? how does that help? *

> **

> [rafal] It means problem can be easily removed. Fixed/vargottam/vakri are

> worst in that case. Also avastha of cursed graha is of utmost importance.

>

>

> In my chart i have jupiter as badhakesh, but since there are planets in

> badhakthan, jupiter may not be obstruction maker. But it is not in kona to

> lagna and sun, nor in char -navamsa, its in kona to debilated moon though.

> U think Jupiter is pure benefic for me. it is also exalted in my chart

> altough in saturn nakshatra.

>

> [rafal] Nakshatras shows Your mind reaction.

>

>

> Wishes

> swati

> Namah Shivaya

>

>

> On 1/3/07, Rafal Gendarz < starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote:

> >

> > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > *Dear Swati, Namaskar*

> > *comments below.*

> > *Regards*

> > *Rafal Gendarz*

> >

> >

> > -

> > ** healing spaces <healingspaces >

> > *To:*

> > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 02, 2007 8:50 PM

> > *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me Hare

> > Krishna

> >

> > Hare rama krsna

> > Dear Rafalji, Thanks...

> > 1.Sorry can u explain what the way in Jagnannath drekanna... to see

> > cancellation of MKS?

> >

> > *[rafal] maybe later..*

> >

> > 3.. Thanks for your chart I shall go over it....i think ur 11th lord in

> > 7th will get u self-earning spouse and will aid u in getting income too. yes

> > probably u will have obstructions from friends. how do u see the role of

> > jupiter a badhakesh?

> > u also have three planets in MKS. Ur mercury is definitely well placed.

> > Do u have exalted mars in D-30 D-60..i am getting in aries and pisces

> > *[rafal] a) there is theory that when grahas are in badhakplace then we

> > dont look at badhakesh. indeed badhakesh in curse its bad thing..hopefully

> > its in kona and chara-navaamsa.*

> > *b) its trimsamsa like shastyamsa. click on your d30 in jhora then there

> > is option to choose "trimsamsa like shastyamsa" where benediction from

> > Devata's is seen..*

> >

> >

> >

> > Thanks Swati

> > Namah Shivaya

> >

> >

> > On 1/2/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote:

> > >

> > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > *Dear Swati,*

> > > **

> > > *replies under.*

> > > **

> > > *Regards*

> > > *Rafal Gendarz*

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > ** healing spaces <healingspaces >

> > > *To:*

> > > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 02, 2007 4:24 PM

> > > *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me

> > > Hare Krishna

> > >

> > > Hare Rama krsna

> > > Dear Rafalji ,

> > > Thanks for ur comments..They were really helpful.

> > > And yes i remember Sanjayji's discourse on 7th house from Al as dwara

> > > to rise.

> > > 1 Could u please elaborate on conditions of cancellation of MKS.?

> > > [rafal] i was taught three methods. a) jagganath drekkana and second

> > > is :

> > > b) see if karaka of bhava is in trikona (Lakshmi) to Surya or Lagna.

> > > (note : this can be also used in varga-chars with respect to karyabhava).

> > > c) if graha is exalted then it can be only initially and native is

> > > rescued through Visnu blessings (exalted grahas are like Visnu)

> > >

> > >

> > > 2. secondly in a chart when two planets are MKS, consider merc or

> > > mars is MKS in 7th, the karak of that house is Venus . Venus is also MKS

> > > in 6th. which houses will have more troubles? how will the cancellations

> > > work ?

> > >

> > > [rafal] Its hard to say which bhava has more affliction by seeing only

> > > these two things You proposed. If Surya is in arthatrikona then lordship

> > > governed by seventh bhava occupants is partly rescued. Navamsa is also

> > > Visnu!

> > >

> > >

> > > 3. Upchaya houses are always beyond overcontrol. Is this why 11th

> > > house is considered natural badhaksthan? When dual lagna or fixed lagna is

> > > rising, how does 11th house work?

> > >

> > > *[rafal] I have eleventh lord in seventh bhava. It gives religiousity

> > > (ninth is distance) but also it gives too many control in my relations and

> > > they burn due to that. This control comes through karak medium - protection

> > > (ma). So its Over (11L) protection(ma) which gives troubles to reasoning

> > > (7h) and death to friend circle (11L). This also cause unpredictable

> > > (pisaca) problems (badhak) due to desires (kendra), but this makes one very

> > > good at occult and mantra (these graha are in kona to karakamsa - 3

> > > grahas!). Mangal is not so bad as exalted in Trimsamsa-Shastyamsa.*

> > >

> > > * October 25, 1982

> > > Time: 19:37:42

> > > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)

> > > Place: 18 E 41' 00", 50 N 13' 00"*

> > >

> > >

> > > Swati

> > > Namah Shivaya

> > >

> > >

> > > On 1/2/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > *hare rama krsna*

> > > > *Dear Swami,*

> > > > *Comments under Your notes.*

> > > > *Regards*

> > > > *Rafal Gendarz*

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > ** healing spaces <healingspaces >

> > > > *To:*

> > > > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 02, 2007 2:31 PM

> > > > *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me

> > > > Hare Krishna

> > > >

> > > > Hare Rama krsna

> > > > Dear Rafalji

> > > >

> > > > 1. What about obstructions from one's own family members ? how do we

> > > > see that?

> > > >

> > > > [rafal] Ninth lord in seventh is one of that Yoga when father go

> > > > against You in marriage. You can see also Devata of Grahas in 4/12 in

> > > > Dwadasaamsa. See also Luminaries in seventh from AL. Mangal is Your brother

> > > > and Venus is Your sister.

> > > >

> > > > {Swati} Why should 9th lord in 7th obstruct marriage, would it not

> > > > be more fortunate spouse for the native. Also would it not depend of nature

> > > > of planet that father supports or obstructs...

> > > >

> > > > *[rafal] Well..this is what I was taught by Guruji and I saw it

> > > > works.. I remember this Yoga so I mentioned it..in Muhurta even Jupiter in 7

> > > > is bad for marriage so 9L can show too much bothering (from 9 to 7 is

> > > > upachaya and upachaya lords shows something overcontrol).*

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > in accordance with UL , the planets in 7th or 12th would show the

> > > > opposition from spouses family ? and for opposition from our family we see

> > > > 7th and 12th to AL .

> > > >

> > > > *[rafal] 7H from AL can cause many good things..therefore we always

> > > > look at Hari-Hara-Brahma Yoga seeing Lagnesh, Visnu (2H) and Ganesh (7H)

> > > > from lagnapada..find that chapter in BPHS where Maharishi mentioned Ve-Ju

> > > > Yoga in 7H from AL - read that chapter. 12 from AL is what we reject (if AL

> > > > lord is involved) or what cause expenses (see natural karaka's).*

> > > >

> > > > 2. if the 7th lord and Ul lord is placed in 6th from venus , while

> > > > venus is itslef in MKS what results?

> > > >

> > > > [rafal] See if Sani is in kona to Lagna or Surya.

> > > >

> > > > {swati} What would saturn deliver if its in trine?

> > > >

> > > > *[rafal] Isnt Sani karaka for sixth bhava ? There is cancelation of

> > > > MKS...*

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > In my virgo lagna lord chart the Ul sagi lord and 7th pisces lord

> > > > jupiter is in 11th house exalted...Ak venus is in 6th house while saturn is

> > > > in 12th. sun is in 8th house in trine to saturn rahu.

> > > >

> > > > i think the first Ul would not fructify or come in existence. am i

> > > > right?

> > > >

> > > > *[rafal] If Upapada lord is wellplaced then it must come to

> > > > existence. If its in bad position from AL or dushtana in d9 you can reject

> > > > this however.*

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Warm regards for new year

> > > >

> > > > *[rafal] Thank You and good Jyotish studies in 2007.*

> > > >

> > > > Swati

> > > >

> > > > On 1/2/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > *Dear Swati*

> > > > > *comments below*

> > > > > *Regards*

> > > > > *Rafal Gendarz*

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hare Rama Krsna

> > > > > Dear Rafalji,

> > > > > 1. What about obstructions from one's own family members ? how do

> > > > > we see that?

> > > > >

> > > > > [rafal] Ninth lord in seventh is one of that Yoga when father go

> > > > > against You in marriage. You can see also Devata of Grahas in 4/12 in

> > > > > Dwadasaamsa. See also Luminaries in seventh from AL. Mangal is Your brother

> > > > > and Venus is Your sister.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. if the 7th lord and Ul lord is placed in 6th from venus , while

> > > > > venus is itslef in MKS what results?

> > > > >

> > > > > [rafal] See if Sani is in kona to Lagna or Surya.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Swati

> > > > > Namah Shivaya

> > > > > On 1/2/07, ND <nadiadeol (AT) (DOT) ca > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ravi ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > How about when the mother-in-law is dead already?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rafal ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am very curious to discover why UL in Capricon is bad as well,

> > > > > > since I have my UL in Capricon, but I also have my AL in Capricon, and both

> > > > > > Saturn and Ketu are placed in my UL and AL. But I have Venus and Rahu in

> > > > > > yuti in 7th from my UL and AL, which is Cancer. And my moon is in Revati in

> > > > > > 12 house in rashi.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Its interesting, when Vistiji looked at my chart, he said that

> > > > > > Venus yuti with Rahu in 7th from UL meant that my husband will have jealous

> > > > > > ex-girlfriends.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Looking forward to your comments,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best wishes to all in 2007,

> > > > > > ND

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > *"A. Ravindran Nair" <rain13club >* wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Arvind,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > UL in Capricon means the 7th is Cancer and its Lord is Moon.

> > > > > > So, the mother-law will become the villain.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hope Rafalji had this in mind.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ravi Nair

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > *Aravinda <aru_dulla >* wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Rafal.......why is UL in capricorn bad? In what context?

> > > > > > This

> > > > > > is a rule or is it subjective?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards

> > > > > > Aru

> > > > > >

> > > > > > <%40>,

> > > > > > "Rafal Gendarz"

> > > > > > <starsuponme wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > vyam vyasadevaya namah

> > > > > > > Dear Pratosh,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Answers below.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > prathoshg

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > <%40>

> > > > > > > Monday, January 01, 2007 6:49 PM

> > > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Small Queries to Rafal ji Help me

> > > > > > Hare Krishna

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My Queries

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1.It is said Planets in 7th and 12th from UL Will Oppose

> > > > > > Marriage so

> > > > > > > if There is a planet like rahu we say foreigner and what abt

> > > > > > Ketu in

> > > > > > > 7th from UL ??????????

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [rafal] rahu is foreigner but ketu can show other tradition

> > > > > > within same country. ketu represents unpredictable, spontaneous

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > often antagonist of social rules. rahu in seventh from upapada

> > > > > > indicate spiritual spouse especially after 45..in those cases

> > > > > > kids

> > > > > > and ganapati puja are important.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Seventh bhava means opposition, but 12H bhava can mean that

> > > > > > You

> > > > > > dont have contact with that specific person from inlaw side.

> > > > > > (taking

> > > > > > al as lagna here)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2.Suppose if there are no Planets in 7th from UL can we take

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > lord

> > > > > > > of 7th from UL as Opposing ?????????????

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [rafal] You can. Sanjay therefore says that upapada in

> > > > > > capricorn

> > > > > > is bad. You should know why..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 3.Guru ji Sanjay rath in one of lecture has said 7th house in

> > > > > > navamsa

> > > > > > > for spouse attitude Then if i have Guru and Mangala in 7th

> > > > > > House

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > Navamsa it becomes Guru Mangala Yoga is That Good bec Guru in

> > > > > > 7th in

> > > > > > > navamsa with mars Sanjay ji has said They will get Lucky

> > > > > > Spouse ??????????\

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [rafal] This means that spouse should digest emotion of these

> > > > > > grahas. Attitude is connected to choices (dhi sakti - jupiter -

> > > > > > paka

> > > > > > lagna) so Saptamesh would tell more..but its issue with

> > > > > > definitions.

> > > > > > Jupiter gives spouse with controlled senses (all classics says

> > > > > > that). Mangal in seventh can give person without limbs or with

> > > > > > scars

> > > > > > (i believe bphs). First spouse of native should share traits of

> > > > > > Guru

> > > > > > and Mangal (attraction to spiritual literature and kantaka

> > > > > > yuddha

> > > > > > (JS) - fight abilities, this can also shows engineering). Mangal

> > > > > > as

> > > > > > agni tattwa with Jupiter often gives Jyotisha but Sanjay wrote

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > one article that Rahu signifies Jyotisha..anyway hope I answered

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Your question..being mithuna Lagna - so many cases are rising

> > > > > > throughout answering..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 4.For me AK IS SUN IS NEECHA IN RASI AND EXALTED IN NAVAMSA IN

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 6TH

> > > > > > > UPACHAYA BHAVA WHETHER IT IS GOOD

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [rafal] jataka parijata says that first we see effect in rasi,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > then navamsa. malefics deb in dushtana are good as enemy is

> > > > > > destroyed..sun in sixth is good...ak in sixth can show many

> > > > > > vices or

> > > > > > attraction for the same..being sun you cant admit it/recognize

> > > > > > it.

> > > > > > om vishnave namah - six letters..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 5.can we believe That rahu as Atmakaraka Spouse will be Good

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > wont

> > > > > > > cheat us Generally asking Since i have heard rahu as atma

> > > > > > means

> > > > > > They

> > > > > > > will get cheated more and will be Good in heart and Spiritual

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > true?????

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [rafal] you cant judge person by one yoga.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanking u

> > > > > > > prathosh

> > > > > > >

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