Guest guest Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 Why is it that many people consider shiva to be supreme when everywhere in the vedas it is krsna is the supreme. Is it because Lord Shiva is Asutosh(easily pleased). Also I have heard that in the Shiva purana it is stated that Lord Shiva is supreme.Ofcourse in the Ganesh Purana has stated that Ganesh is supreme. Now ofcourse there are 18 puranas which are divided into 6 catagoris according to the gunas. Six in Tama guna, six in Raja guna and six in satva guna. The Srimad Bhagavatam and Bhagavat Gita are in Satva guna. Maybe people should try reading them. Each of the Puranas claim that their perticular diety is supreme so people in those gunas can observe what they can while being in that guna and not go to higher dieties because it might be disruptive. The position of Lord Siva ia that he is always accompanied by ghosts and hobgoblins - because his incarnation is to elevate those in the mode of tamas and trick them into worshiping a Vaisnava (himself) - Lord Siva carried Mother Ganga on his head, and Mother Ganga washes the feet of Lord Vishnu (Krishna). All are expansions of the same God, but the quality of worship is different as people are on different levels of realisation! Ila Justin <rivolena .sg> wrote: Here we go with the sectarianism again. In non of the Shiva purana or linga purana's does Shiva call himself a vaishnava. Another question if Shiva is a vaishnava, then why doesn't he spot the same vaishnava emblem on his forehead ? That which exists is One, sages call it by various Names- That is what the Rig Veda proclaims. Each of us will be attracted by a concept of divinity and choose a mode of worship pertaining to our past impressions and gunas. Isn't that obvious ? Are we living in a well here ? Just look around the world and you can see numerous paths. Sectarianism can only make one narrow minded and one doens't need scriptural quotes to say that. acyutanandadasa <acyutanandadasa > vedic astrology Wednesday, 3 January 2007 8:31:49 AM [vedic astrology] Re: The special quality of 14 mukhi Rudraksha (An opinion) Instead of trying to please Lord Shivji by wearing Rudraksa, why not worship that object of his devotion. After all it is Shivji who is instructing Narada in the Narada Pancaratra where he says quite clearly that worship of Krsna in the form and body of a gopi is the topmost. By pleasing the object oh his aradhya you will not only receive the blessings of Shiv but the one who himself blesses shiv. And indeed Shivji is the topmost vaisnava - 'vaisnavanam yatha sambho' (Bhagavat). -Acyutananda dasabhasa vedic astrology, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote: > > ESOTERIC: The special quality of 14 mukhi is as Maha Shani or GREAT > SATURN. Lord Shiva wears a 14 mukhi mala. And Saturn (Shanidev) is a > big devotee of Lord Shiva (although not friendly with his own father, > Surya � The Sun). So anyone wearing 14 mukhi gets the �eye of Shiva� on > them, PLUS gets reduction in all bad aspects of Saturn. That is why > even people in Sade Sati, or even Saturn periods, which are so > humiliating, get a giant boost in self confidence and patience in > knowledge that Shani, no matter how badly placed in your horoscope, > will show you respect because Shani sees everyone, but in particular he > respects and feels kindness toward those who have, somehow by great > good fortune, gotten the blessings of Mahadev (the GREATEST Vaishnava) > in a most rare form of His (Himalayan) Chaturdasha mukhi Rudraksha > Mani. > > ---This is an opinion. > > Richard Shaw-Brown, GIA, PGDesigner, Gemologist & Authorhttp:/ /www.richardshaw brown.comhttp: //www.agt- gems.comhttp: //www..astralgems tonetalismans. comhttp:/ /www.themisunder stood.comhttp: //www.hrisikesh. comhttp:/ /www.hrisikesh. nethttp:/ /www.p-g- a.orghttp: //www.satyavrat- shastri.nethttp: //www.generalpre m.comhttp: //www.navaratna- museum.infohttp: //www.sacred- objects.infohttp ://www.richardsh awbrown.com/ mysticarticles/ index.htmlhttp: //groups. / group/sacred- objects/http: //groups. / group/planetary- gemology/ http://groups. / group/astral- talismans/ http://groups. / group/vedic- sacred-objects/ > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger . > Send instant messages to your online friends http://asia.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 Dear Ila devi Dasi MVS , Can you please give a reference from the Vedas where Krishna is mentioned please ? This makes this post nonastrological . Regards , Anand A. K. Ghurye Mobile : 9820 489 416 Phone : 2685 5496 email : hmm_aha ------- § Training § Development § Relationships § Synectics email : hmm_aha Home page : growthanddevelopment http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/Ghurye1.html http://anandghurye.blogspot.com/ -------- - Ila devi dasi MVS vedic astrology Friday, January 05, 2007 10:09 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: The special quality of 14 mukhi Rudraksha - Lord Siva Why is it that many people consider shiva to be supreme when everywhere in the vedas it is krsna is the supreme. Is it because Lord Shiva is Asutosh(easily pleased). Also I have heard that in the Shiva purana it is stated that Lord Shiva is supreme.Ofcourse in the Ganesh Purana has stated that Ganesh is supreme. Now ofcourse there are 18 puranas which are divided into 6 catagoris according to the gunas. Six in Tama guna, six in Raja guna and six in satva guna. The Srimad Bhagavatam and Bhagavat Gita are in Satva guna. Maybe people should try reading them. Each of the Puranas claim that their perticular diety is supreme so people in those gunas can observe what they can while being in that guna and not go to higher dieties because it might be disruptive. The position of Lord Siva ia that he is always accompanied by ghosts and hobgoblins - because his incarnation is to elevate those in the mode of tamas and trick them into worshiping a Vaisnava (himself) - Lord Siva carried Mother Ganga on his head, and Mother Ganga washes the feet of Lord Vishnu (Krishna). All are expansions of the same God, but the quality of worship is different as people are on different levels of realisation! Ila Justin <rivolena .sg> wrote: Here we go with the sectarianism again. In non of the Shiva purana or linga purana's does Shiva call himself a vaishnava. Another question if Shiva is a vaishnava, then why doesn't he spot the same vaishnava emblem on his forehead ? That which exists is One, sages call it by various Names- That is what the Rig Veda proclaims. Each of us will be attracted by a concept of divinity and choose a mode of worship pertaining to our past impressions and gunas. Isn't that obvious ? Are we living in a well here ? Just look around the world and you can see numerous paths. Sectarianism can only make one narrow minded and one doens't need scriptural quotes to say that. acyutanandadasa <acyutanandadasa > vedic astrology Wednesday, 3 January 2007 8:31:49 AM [vedic astrology] Re: The special quality of 14 mukhi Rudraksha (An opinion) Instead of trying to please Lord Shivji by wearing Rudraksa, why not worship that object of his devotion. After all it is Shivji who is instructing Narada in the Narada Pancaratra where he says quite clearly that worship of Krsna in the form and body of a gopi is the topmost. By pleasing the object oh his aradhya you will not only receive the blessings of Shiv but the one who himself blesses shiv. And indeed Shivji is the topmost vaisnava - 'vaisnavanam yatha sambho' (Bhagavat). -Acyutananda dasabhasa vedic astrology, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote: > > ESOTERIC: The special quality of 14 mukhi is as Maha Shani or GREAT > SATURN. Lord Shiva wears a 14 mukhi mala. And Saturn (Shanidev) is a > big devotee of Lord Shiva (although not friendly with his own father, > Surya � The Sun). So anyone wearing 14 mukhi gets the �eye of Shiva� on > them, PLUS gets reduction in all bad aspects of Saturn. That is why > even people in Sade Sati, or even Saturn periods, which are so > humiliating, get a giant boost in self confidence and patience in > knowledge that Shani, no matter how badly placed in your horoscope, > will show you respect because Shani sees everyone, but in particular he > respects and feels kindness toward those who have, somehow by great > good fortune, gotten the blessings of Mahadev (the GREATEST Vaishnava) > in a most rare form of His (Himalayan) Chaturdasha mukhi Rudraksha > Mani. > > ---This is an opinion. > > Richard Shaw-Brown, GIA, PGDesigner, Gemologist & Authorhttp:/ /www.richardshaw brown.comhttp: //www.agt- gems.comhttp: //www.astralgems tonetalismans. comhttp:/ /www.themisunder stood.comhttp: //www.hrisikesh. comhttp:/ /www.hrisikesh. nethttp:/ /www.p-g- a.orghttp: //www..satyavrat- shastri.nethttp: //www.generalpre m.comhttp: //www.navaratna- museum.infohttp: //www.sacred- objects.infohttp ://www.richardsh awbrown.com/ mysticarticles/ index.htmlhttp: //groups. / group/sacred- objects/http: //groups. / group/planetary- gemology/ http://groups. / group/astral- talismans/ http://groups. / group/vedic- sacred-objects/ > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger . > Send instant messages to your online friends http://asia.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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