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Namaste Russell and Ryan:

 

I have read both of your posts about humility and accepting what

happens and not being overshadowed by some's comments.

 

I offer my experiences with Maa and Swami to help illustrate a

teacher's and student's responbilities.

Shree Maa and Swami are examples of pure teachers. If a student asks

them a question, they respond on the level of the student, and give

knowledge on the level of the student. They are always kind to anyone

who asks a sincere question, in the spirit of respect and love.

When I ask a question, I feel nervous sometimes, my ego feels I will

make a mistake and look stupid. But I ask because I need to know so I

can grow. I ask humbly and with respect, and in my heart I am

prepared to accept what they say, listening with full attention. I

try to suspend the natural impulse to formulate the next question

while listening to their answer.

Their answers some on many levels: from the gross level of words, to

the most subtle level of pure love. My mind feels satisfied with the

intellectual content, and my heart is filled with love. All levels of

one's being are nourished by the Guru's teachings.

That is the transmission from a pure teacher to a willing disciple.

If both the teacher and student come together with respect, the

exchange helps each to grow. If one or the other is ego bound, it can

be unpleasant.

One has to use one's discrimination. If the student and the teacher do

not get along, if there is not mutual respect, the student has the

right to move onto another teacher, and vice versa.

Now, if the student has a cronic emotional issue, i.e., nervousness or

shyness, etc., there are mantras in the Kashyapa Sutras which one can

repeat to help eliminate a negative behavior. Kashyapa also provides

positive mantras of emotions to replace the negative one.

These mantra are in the book: "The Guru and the Goddess", Kasyapa

Sutras, available thru the Devi Mandir website at: wwwshreemaa.org

 

I hope this helps. Please let me know.

 

Jai Maa Jai Swami

Vishweshwar

 

 

-- In , "grajft" <ryangra wrote:

>

> I have a question that has been bothering me. I once attended a

> Bhagavat Gita class in my area. It was more of a guided group

> discussion. During that class we were discussing a certain passage

> (the passage escapes me at the moment) and I offered my interpretation

> of it. Now mind you I was very nervous about speaking in front of a

> group and my words didn't exactly match what I was thinking about.

> After I finished there was a moment of silence then the person leading

> the group abruptly told me I was wrong and moved on to someone else. I

> was embarrassed and offended by his actions. Which leads me to my

> question: Is it my role as a student to humble myself and not to take

> such actions to heart, or should I look elsewhere for a more sensitive

> teacher? Any insight on this would be greatly appreciated.

> Jai Maa,

> Ryan

>

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Vishweshwar,

Thank you for your response. It is clearer now what my role as a

student is. Also I was completely unaware of these mantras for psycic

healing. How would one use such mantras? I will look into that book.

Namaste,

Ryan

 

, "inspectionconnection108"

<inspectionconnection108 wrote:

>

> Namaste Russell and Ryan:

>

> I have read both of your posts about humility and accepting what

> happens and not being overshadowed by some's comments.

>

> I offer my experiences with Maa and Swami to help illustrate a

> teacher's and student's responbilities.

> Shree Maa and Swami are examples of pure teachers. If a student asks

> them a question, they respond on the level of the student, and give

> knowledge on the level of the student. They are always kind to anyone

> who asks a sincere question, in the spirit of respect and love.

> When I ask a question, I feel nervous sometimes, my ego feels I will

> make a mistake and look stupid. But I ask because I need to know so I

> can grow. I ask humbly and with respect, and in my heart I am

> prepared to accept what they say, listening with full attention. I

> try to suspend the natural impulse to formulate the next question

> while listening to their answer.

> Their answers some on many levels: from the gross level of words, to

> the most subtle level of pure love. My mind feels satisfied with the

> intellectual content, and my heart is filled with love. All levels of

> one's being are nourished by the Guru's teachings.

> That is the transmission from a pure teacher to a willing disciple.

> If both the teacher and student come together with respect, the

> exchange helps each to grow. If one or the other is ego bound, it can

> be unpleasant.

> One has to use one's discrimination. If the student and the teacher do

> not get along, if there is not mutual respect, the student has the

> right to move onto another teacher, and vice versa.

> Now, if the student has a cronic emotional issue, i.e., nervousness or

> shyness, etc., there are mantras in the Kashyapa Sutras which one can

> repeat to help eliminate a negative behavior. Kashyapa also provides

> positive mantras of emotions to replace the negative one.

> These mantra are in the book: "The Guru and the Goddess", Kasyapa

> Sutras, available thru the Devi Mandir website at: wwwshreemaa.org

>

> I hope this helps. Please let me know.

>

> Jai Maa Jai Swami

> Vishweshwar

>

>

> -- In , "grajft" <ryangra@> wrote:

> >

> > I have a question that has been bothering me. I once attended a

> > Bhagavat Gita class in my area. It was more of a guided group

> > discussion. During that class we were discussing a certain passage

> > (the passage escapes me at the moment) and I offered my interpretation

> > of it. Now mind you I was very nervous about speaking in front of a

> > group and my words didn't exactly match what I was thinking about.

> > After I finished there was a moment of silence then the person leading

> > the group abruptly told me I was wrong and moved on to someone else. I

> > was embarrassed and offended by his actions. Which leads me to my

> > question: Is it my role as a student to humble myself and not to take

> > such actions to heart, or should I look elsewhere for a more sensitive

> > teacher? Any insight on this would be greatly appreciated.

> > Jai Maa,

> > Ryan

> >

>

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