Guest guest Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 Namaste everyone, >From a psychological point of view, some people don't even know what the truth is. They have hidden it in their psychological defenses. To truly speak the truth, one would have to truly understand him/herself. Getting behind the defenses where the ego hides is paramount to healing. In this way truth is also healing. Jai Ma, Shankari Kali kandaaran (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote: inspectionconnection108 Sat, 6 Jan 2007 12:50 AM [www.ShreeMaa.org] How to Speak Only Truth, to Tanmaya and everyone Namaste Tanmaya, Speaking truth is a difficult sadhana, but a great one. Every month when I renew my vow, I am very inspired to "watch" every statement I make to be certain it is truth. It is amazing how many levels of truth there are. Even on the gross level of speech, there are 1/2 truths, omissions, "white lies", etc. Every statement has the potential to be an "untruth". It requires much discipline to speak only the truth. I am a "work in progress" and continually have to watch myself. I hope others will read this and post the techniques they have discovered for speaking truth. Jai Maa Jai Swami love vishweshwar Namaste vish One way that is useful for me is to speak less. When speaking is it kind, is it helpful, is it true (I need to work more on the first two). The practice of watching the mind think helps me release ( without using ) some reactionary patterns. I like your monthly vow. Om Namah Sivaya Love Kanda , "ty_maa" <dsjames wrote: > > > Namaste Vishweshwar, > > Your inspired question about Truth as a sadhana seems to have slipped by > unnoticed; probably because it appeared in the last paragraph, and > because there is so much other activity just now. > > Sri Ramakrishna never tired of repeating that "Truth is the discipline > of the Kali Yuga". If the very-near-at-hand Satya Yuga is characterized > as the "Age of Truth", then it would only be expedient for those wishing > to make a smooth transition into that age to become as much aligned with > Truth as possible. > > The Kali Yuga in which we now live is characterized by brevity, > violence, impurity, and the (often conscious and intentional) obscurring > of truth. As we move deeper into the immense Light of the Satya Yuga > those who cannot release the qualities of the Age of Untruth may well go > down with the ship,--and there is a strange fascination with the sinking > of the unsinkable Titanic in the collective mind which is quite > interesting. > > Sri Ramakrishna taught that if one can be unswervingly truthful in > thought, word and deed for twelve years, that practice alone will > release one from Maya and bestow freedom. It is a fact that > many-perhaps all-of the great world movers for good were men and women > with a strong devotion to truth. Washington, Lincoln, Ghandhi, and many > others had consciously molded their character to be in alignment with > truth. > > Sri Ramakrishna often gave the example of the simple scales used in the > Bengal villiages by goldsmiths. > One stationary needle above, and a needle which moved with two pans > below; when the contents of the two pans were in perfect balance, the > lower needle would be in exactly alignment with the upper needle. The > lesson was not to stray from both truthfulness in thought, word and > deed, as well as to remain unswervingly alignmed with Truth, the > spiritual Reality, call it God, Guru, Paramatman, Avatara-or simply > Truth. > > Ever listening to that music, and remaining perfectly in step with it, > one becomes an "expert dancer". And, as Sri Ramakrishna said, "An expert > dancer becomes unable to take a false step" > > Respectfully, > > Tanmaya > > > > > > > > , "inspectionconnection108" > <inspectionconnection108@> wrote: > > > > Namaste > > > > Tuesday night we celebrated the full moon with the monthly recitation > > of the "Satya Nayayana Vrat". this is included in the book, available > > from the Devi Mandir, called: "Visnu Puja, The Thousand Names of Visnu > > and The Satya Narayana Vrat". > > > > This short text is chanted at the fire, by Maa, Swami, and all the > > present, in order to make a group sankalpa to speak the truth. > > The text is very interesting because it includes stories to teach us > > why telling the truth is important. > > Maa and Swami, Ramakrishna, and other illuminated beings have taught > > that telling the truth in Kali Yuga is a very powerful sadhana. > > > > Over the next days, I would like to discuss with everyone why speaking > > the truth is important. > > Ask questions about the concept of speaking the truth, or provide > > examples from your own experience which demonstrate that speaking the > > truth has helped you grow. > > > Please visit us online at http://www.ShreeMaa.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 Shankari Kali you are so right. It is very difficult to be completely honest with yourself. The mind and ego are so tricky, and there are so many levels of understanding and motivation that it is sometimes next to impossible to ferret out the truth. Actually, I think it may really be impossible at the deepest levels so long as we remain under the bondage of the ego. We are, all of us, continually kidding ourselves (lying) about who we are (and aren't) and why we do (and don't do)the things that we do. The more selfish the motivation, the more "kidding" there is. Jai Maa! Chris , Shankari Kali <shankari_kali wrote: > > Namaste everyone, > > From a psychological point of view, some people don't even know what the truth is. They have hidden it in their psychological defenses. To truly speak the truth, one would have to truly understand him/herself. Getting behind the defenses where the ego hides is paramount to healing. In this way truth is also healing. > > Jai Ma, > Shankari Kali > > > > kandaaran wrote: > > > inspectionconnection108 > > Sat, 6 Jan 2007 12:50 AM > [www.ShreeMaa.org] How to Speak Only Truth, to Tanmaya and everyone > > > Namaste Tanmaya, > > Speaking truth is a difficult sadhana, but a great one. Every month > when I renew my vow, I am very inspired to "watch" every statement I > make to be certain it is truth. It is amazing how many levels of > truth there are. > Even on the gross level of speech, there are 1/2 truths, omissions, > "white lies", etc. Every statement has the potential to be an > "untruth". > It requires much discipline to speak only the truth. > I am a "work in progress" and continually have to watch myself. > I hope others will read this and post the techniques they have > discovered for speaking truth. > > Jai Maa Jai Swami > love > vishweshwar > > Namaste vish > > One way that is useful for me is to speak less. When speaking is it kind, is it helpful, > > is it true (I need to work more on the first two). The practice of watching the mind think > > helps me release ( without using ) some reactionary patterns. I like your monthly vow. > > Om Namah Sivaya > > Love > > Kanda > > , "ty_maa" <dsjames@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Vishweshwar, > > > > Your inspired question about Truth as a sadhana seems to have slipped by > > unnoticed; probably because it appeared in the last paragraph, and > > because there is so much other activity just now. > > > > Sri Ramakrishna never tired of repeating that "Truth is the discipline > > of the Kali Yuga". If the very-near-at-hand Satya Yuga is characterized > > as the "Age of Truth", then it would only be expedient for those wishing > > to make a smooth transition into that age to become as much aligned with > > Truth as possible. > > > > The Kali Yuga in which we now live is characterized by brevity, > > violence, impurity, and the (often conscious and intentional) obscurring > > of truth. As we move deeper into the immense Light of the Satya Yuga > > those who cannot release the qualities of the Age of Untruth may well go > > down with the ship,--and there is a strange fascination with the sinking > > of the unsinkable Titanic in the collective mind which is quite > > interesting. > > > > Sri Ramakrishna taught that if one can be unswervingly truthful in > > thought, word and deed for twelve years, that practice alone will > > release one from Maya and bestow freedom. It is a fact that > > many-perhaps all-of the great world movers for good were men and women > > with a strong devotion to truth. Washington, Lincoln, Ghandhi, and many > > others had consciously molded their character to be in alignment with > > truth. > > > > Sri Ramakrishna often gave the example of the simple scales used in the > > Bengal villiages by goldsmiths. > > One stationary needle above, and a needle which moved with two pans > > below; when the contents of the two pans were in perfect balance, the > > lower needle would be in exactly alignment with the upper needle. The > > lesson was not to stray from both truthfulness in thought, word and > > deed, as well as to remain unswervingly alignmed with Truth, the > > spiritual Reality, call it God, Guru, Paramatman, Avatara-or simply > > Truth. > > > > Ever listening to that music, and remaining perfectly in step with it, > > one becomes an "expert dancer". And, as Sri Ramakrishna said, "An expert > > dancer becomes unable to take a false step" > > > > Respectfully, > > > > Tanmaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "inspectionconnection108" > > <inspectionconnection108@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > Tuesday night we celebrated the full moon with the monthly recitation > > > of the "Satya Nayayana Vrat". this is included in the book, available > > > from the Devi Mandir, called: "Visnu Puja, The Thousand Names of Visnu > > > and The Satya Narayana Vrat". > > > > > > This short text is chanted at the fire, by Maa, Swami, and all the > > > present, in order to make a group sankalpa to speak the truth. > > > The text is very interesting because it includes stories to teach us > > > why telling the truth is important. > > > Maa and Swami, Ramakrishna, and other illuminated beings have taught > > > that telling the truth in Kali Yuga is a very powerful sadhana. > > > > > > Over the next days, I would like to discuss with everyone why speaking > > > the truth is important. > > > Ask questions about the concept of speaking the truth, or provide > > > examples from your own experience which demonstrate that speaking the > > > truth has helped you grow. > > > > > > > > > > Please visit us online at http://www.ShreeMaa.org > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 Chris- I guess living under Maya or delusion is a sort of lie all the time. The more we seek out the truth, the more we pull the cobwebs away from our eyes. Thanks Chris. You explain that so well. Jai Ma! Shankari Kali Chris Kirner <chriskirner1956 > wrote: Shankari Kali you are so right. It is very difficult to be completely honest with yourself. The mind and ego are so tricky, and there are so many levels of understanding and motivation that it is sometimes next to impossible to ferret out the truth. Actually, I think it may really be impossible at the deepest levels so long as we remain under the bondage of the ego. We are, all of us, continually kidding ourselves (lying) about who we are (and aren't) and why we do (and don't do)the things that we do. The more selfish the motivation, the more "kidding" there is. Jai Maa! Chris , Shankari Kali <shankari_kali wrote: > > Namaste everyone, > > From a psychological point of view, some people don't even know what the truth is. They have hidden it in their psychological defenses. To truly speak the truth, one would have to truly understand him/herself. Getting behind the defenses where the ego hides is paramount to healing. In this way truth is also healing. > > Jai Ma, > Shankari Kali > > > > kandaaran wrote: > > > inspectionconnection108 > > Sat, 6 Jan 2007 12:50 AM > [www.ShreeMaa.org] How to Speak Only Truth, to Tanmaya and everyone > > > Namaste Tanmaya, > > Speaking truth is a difficult sadhana, but a great one. Every month > when I renew my vow, I am very inspired to "watch" every statement I > make to be certain it is truth. It is amazing how many levels of > truth there are. > Even on the gross level of speech, there are 1/2 truths, omissions, > "white lies", etc. Every statement has the potential to be an > "untruth". > It requires much discipline to speak only the truth. > I am a "work in progress" and continually have to watch myself. > I hope others will read this and post the techniques they have > discovered for speaking truth. > > Jai Maa Jai Swami > love > vishweshwar > > Namaste vish > > One way that is useful for me is to speak less. When speaking is it kind, is it helpful, > > is it true (I need to work more on the first two). The practice of watching the mind think > > helps me release ( without using ) some reactionary patterns. I like your monthly vow. > > Om Namah Sivaya > > Love > > Kanda > > , "ty_maa" <dsjames@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Vishweshwar, > > > > Your inspired question about Truth as a sadhana seems to have slipped by > > unnoticed; probably because it appeared in the last paragraph, and > > because there is so much other activity just now. > > > > Sri Ramakrishna never tired of repeating that "Truth is the discipline > > of the Kali Yuga". If the very-near-at-hand Satya Yuga is characterized > > as the "Age of Truth", then it would only be expedient for those wishing > > to make a smooth transition into that age to become as much aligned with > > Truth as possible. > > > > The Kali Yuga in which we now live is characterized by brevity, > > violence, impurity, and the (often conscious and intentional) obscurring > > of truth. As we move deeper into the immense Light of the Satya Yuga > > those who cannot release the qualities of the Age of Untruth may well go > > down with the ship,--and there is a strange fascination with the sinking > > of the unsinkable Titanic in the collective mind which is quite > > interesting. > > > > Sri Ramakrishna taught that if one can be unswervingly truthful in > > thought, word and deed for twelve years, that practice alone will > > release one from Maya and bestow freedom. It is a fact that > > many-perhaps all-of the great world movers for good were men and women > > with a strong devotion to truth. Washington, Lincoln, Ghandhi, and many > > others had consciously molded their character to be in alignment with > > truth. > > > > Sri Ramakrishna often gave the example of the simple scales used in the > > Bengal villiages by goldsmiths. > > One stationary needle above, and a needle which moved with two pans > > below; when the contents of the two pans were in perfect balance, the > > lower needle would be in exactly alignment with the upper needle. The > > lesson was not to stray from both truthfulness in thought, word and > > deed, as well as to remain unswervingly alignmed with Truth, the > > spiritual Reality, call it God, Guru, Paramatman, Avatara-or simply > > Truth. > > > > Ever listening to that music, and remaining perfectly in step with it, > > one becomes an "expert dancer". And, as Sri Ramakrishna said, "An expert > > dancer becomes unable to take a false step" > > > > Respectfully, > > > > Tanmaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "inspectionconnection108" > > <inspectionconnection108@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > Tuesday night we celebrated the full moon with the monthly recitation > > > of the "Satya Nayayana Vrat". this is included in the book, available > > > from the Devi Mandir, called: "Visnu Puja, The Thousand Names of Visnu > > > and The Satya Narayana Vrat". > > > > > > This short text is chanted at the fire, by Maa, Swami, and all the > > > present, in order to make a group sankalpa to speak the truth. > > > The text is very interesting because it includes stories to teach us > > > why telling the truth is important. > > > Maa and Swami, Ramakrishna, and other illuminated beings have taught > > > that telling the truth in Kali Yuga is a very powerful sadhana. > > > > > > Over the next days, I would like to discuss with everyone why speaking > > > the truth is important. > > > Ask questions about the concept of speaking the truth, or provide > > > examples from your own experience which demonstrate that speaking the > > > truth has helped you grow. > > > > > > > > > > Please visit us online at http://www.ShreeMaa.org > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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