option 2- letter to JPS

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Dear Ramakanta Prabhu,

PAMHO. AGTSP!

You ask:

 

<What is absurd if disciples are transferred back to the spiritual sky at the

moment they are initiated?>

 

When you use phrases such as ‘moment they are initiated’ and ‘the time of

initiation’ what ‘moment’ or ‘time’ are you referring to and where are they

mentioned by Srila Prabhupada? You already said you were not talking about the

ceremony (which is what I had assumed when making my argument). Why will you

never tell us?

 

You say:

..

<I chose 2). But you will have to do it without any input from me.>

 

The letter to JPS does not contain the following injunction:

 

“Srila Prabhupada cannot initiate the delivery of disciples on this planet

without being present (incarnated) on this planet.”

 

I shall wait until you either agree with me or prove it does contain your

injunction before moving to the next piece of evidence. If you do neither then

I shall assume you are ‘dropping out’ of the debate.

Best wishes

Ys

Yadu

 

 

 

 

Ramakanta (das) HKS (PAMHO.NET SysOp) (Zurich - CH)

<Ramakanta.HKS (AT) pamho (DOT) net>

Initiations in ISKCON <Initiations.in.ISKCON (AT) pamho (DOT) net>

Thursday, January 11, 2007 7:30:00 AM

I offer three options

 

 

Dear Yaduraja Prabhu, PAMHO. AGTSP!

 

 

> It was clear I was about to point out what I perceived to be the absurd

> repercussions of a position that APPEARED to assert that disciples were

> transferred back to the spiritual sky at the moment they are initiated;

> not put forward a theory I personally believed.

 

What is absurd if disciples are transferred back to the spiritual sky at the

moment they are initiated? If you cannot tell us, then your reductio ad

absurdum failed.

 

 

> but I still have no idea what you mean by phrases such as ‘the time of

> initiation’, ‘the initiation’ or ‘initiate the delivery’.

 

Then there is no use to discuss it.

 

 

> Of course you are free at any time to give up and drop out of the debate,

> but my three options are still on the table if you want to try and prove

> your claim or withdraw it:

 

I chose 2). But you will have to do it without any input from me.

 

 

> In which case I shall happily, and with great relish dismember your latest

> challenge.

 

You will not.

 

 

ys Ramakanta dasa

 

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