Guest guest Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Swati, so below... Respectfully, Michal [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] healing spaces <healingspaces > sohamsa; Tuesday, January 9, 2007 6:17:22 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Hare Rama Krsna Dear Michal Comments below [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Swati, I never said that Saturn would give rajayoga to you. All I said was that if we were to take Saturn in Cancer as Lagna for one of your schools, then the school would have the charachteristics of some rajyoga ie. be prestigious, royal etc. well the campus is just a architecture design school, is an autonomous institute and popular, was affiliated with govt, but when we were in final yr , it was turned into university. But again as u mentioned in ur previous mails , would all people in my campus will have rajyogas in 9th house in D-24. When do we see the 9th house aspects and aspcts to 9th lord. The same school can have many different meanings for all people. Someone that was badly bullied there will have different combinations to signify their schooling experience. First see the planets in the 9th house, then the Lord, and then the aspects.. In this order we can see the higher education. Don´t you think its interesting that your school, represented by the 4th lord Saturn, transformed into a University, as it is placed in the 9th house? If Sagitarius was the Lagna then how would you explain design? Lord of the ninth is Sun in Virgo and the 9th is aspected by the nodes. Let us first try to be straight - 9th house is for bachelor level education. Well could the problems and delays i suffered be seen in respect to nodes. Are u using true nodes option or mean nodes. Delay is Saturn. Always mean nodes. Sagitarius Why would the 1st lord going to the 12th give overseas education for masters and not for primary education? Jupiter is also the 4th lord - so don't you think that your first schooling experience (4th house) would have been abroad? Yes this is quite true...and probably also explains our inclination to scorpio.Altough in one mail long back Visti ji had mentioned about the possibility of abroad from sagittarius. Scorpio Instead, look at it this way, 2nd lord of Masters education (Jupiter) is in the 12th from there - so your post-graduate studies will be overseas. Moon is in badhaksthana from Gemini and in the 7th house which also deals with travel - so you have two conspiring to take you abroad in this dasa. Why would the 2nd lord being in 12th from it signify aborad? i am not sure with this logic. Also what aspects and influences to wnd house and 2nd lord.. What kind of specialization will i enter ? Look at it this way. Does the lord of any house going to another house have any significance? It must. What about the Arudhapada of the 2nd falling in the 12th house? Moon can indicate the public and social things, so it can be something like the design of a town, or buildings that have to do with the public like halls, meeting places etc. So is Sanjay's recent Siddhamsa lecture in English? Yes his lectures are in english. Looking forward to more of your thoughts. Please have a good look at Scorpio Lagna for the reasons I have given and tell me what you think. Yes i am also inclined to see it as scorpio. But than a lot changes in d-60 ,specifically i need a malefic in 2nd house to signify the small accidents i have had , and at times eye troubles i face. Respectfully, Michal [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Swati, I never said that Saturn would give rajayoga to you. All I said was that if we were to take Saturn in Cancer as Lagna for one of your schools, then the school would have the charachteristics of some rajyoga ie. be prestigious, royal etc. If Sagitarius was the Lagna then how would you explain design? Lord of the ninth is Sun in Virgo and the 9th is aspected by the nodes. Let us first try to be straight - 9th house is for bachelor level education. Sagitarius Why would the 1st lord going to the 12th give overseas education for masters and not for primary education? Jupiter is also the 4th lord - so don't you think that your first schooling experience (4th house) would have been abroad? Scorpio Instead, look at it this way, 2nd lord of Masters education (Jupiter) is in the 12th from there - so your post-graduate studies will be overseas. Moon is in badhaksthana from Gemini and in the 7th house which also deals with travel - so you have two conspiring to take you abroad in this dasa. So is Sanjay's recent Siddhamsa lecture in English? Looking forward to more of your thoughts. Please have a good look at Scorpio Lagna for the reasons I have given and tell me what you think. Respectfully, Michal [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] ----- Original Message ---- healing spaces <healingspaces > sohamsa@ .com Saturday, January 6, 2007 9:06:12 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Hare Rama krsna Dear Michal ... Thanks for ur continous posts and interest.. I am learning a lot:) With scorpio 18:00 ..my badhakesh becomes 9th lord moon , while lord of 3rd and 4th saturn placed in 9th gets placed in 9th house badhakstha, so dont know if its rajyoga. For two yrs , saturn has been transitting cancer, and i faced most of my delays in last two yrs, altough i think now with saturn retro transit, will result in submission and finishing of my viva. how will the end be seen for 9th house? it should end is taursu-Aquarius( which antar) dasha itself i am not so good in narayana dasha yet... cant make out what gemini dasha wil bring and also aspect of moon ..moos is also badhakesh.. Also if i pursue post-masters its going to be abraod so i need combination for both:) also what would be the post masters in.. there are no aspects to 2nd house now, so moon is going to decide the specialization course in design? help me to see gemini narayan dasha also. i see more chances of abroad in sagitarius lagna 18:05 . as the 1st lord is in 12th and badhaksthana gemini may start operating now and badhakesh is also in is also in 12th house. however moon has to come into play as it aspects gemini... Also with rahu ketu in 2nd and many aspects it can show many influences on masters degree:) i think i am confused now for my D-24 enough:) For mother ..yes possible we need to go backward for her time too...altough at bachelors level she did sanskrit, and some other subjects also..Specializatio n comes when she does masters..and moon has aspect to 2nd house. venus in 6th debilated ..i dont know... also what about her further pursuits after Ph D, writing books papers...mars in 3rd house..karaka bhava nashao...her younger bro is not there...7th house is afflicted though... Guru Sanjayjis lectures are in English mostly...so u can listen to them... Also sanjayji told the houses 5th , 10th , 3rd, 8th and 1st are for spiritual pursuits and informal learning and finally self-realization. wishes swati Namah Shivaya On 1/5/07, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote: [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Swati, Yes, Saturn is the significator for delay. I have asked you before - what do you think about Gemini dasa approaching? 9th Lord Moon is aspecting this sign from the 2nd house of post-graduate studies. If your Mother has studied psychology then perhaps Moon should be in the 9th house. That would put Shani in the 7th house of Phd, and as Shani is karaka for the 10th house it would make sense that her studies had the focus of 'vocation' and the psychology of that as Moon aspects. Shakti yoga is good if malefics are there, Mars in her case, as the this shows the power to overcome anger, hatred etc. Respectfully, Michal [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] healing spaces <healingspaces > sohamsa@ .com Friday, January 5, 2007 8:47:14 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Hare Rama krsna Dear Michal, Thanks...Does saturn show delay with rajyoga as well? with this D-24 when do u see a possibility of post-grad? My mother is a professor in psychology and has done phd in vocational psychology. No, i don't think she had any problems in bachelors. She started working in very early age by 22 after finishing her masters. She did PhD after her marriage i believe.She got married in May 1974. what would u say about her father from 9th house? he had parkinsons for many yrs and suffered a lot. She also has strong shakti yoga in 7th house involving Ak . So some dischords too. Swati Namah shivaya On 1/5/07, Michal Dziwulski < nearmichal > wrote: [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Swati, Shani in Karka gives rajyoga in the 1st or 10th houses. So, if we take your 9th house in Siddhamsa and call that the Lagna for one of your schools then this combination is present. Can you give details about what your Mother studied? Jupiter, Rahu and Ketu in Scorpio could give some kind of scientific field like radiology or chemistry. Mercury and Rahu in the Navamsa Lagna indicates homeopathy. The lord of the 9th is exalted but retrograde - did she have to work very hard to complete her bachelor level studies? In the Rasi chart Lagna Lord is exalted in the 9th with the 5th lord - I can really believe she has a lot of students! Respectfully, Michal [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] healing spaces <healingspaces > sohamsa@ .com Friday, January 5, 2007 12:07:55 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Dear Michalji... Also how should saturn in karaka rashi give rajyoga in 9th house.can u explain more on that. Swati On 1/4/07, healing spaces < healingspaces@ gmail.com> wrote:Hare Rama Krsna, Thanks Michal ji yes scorpio looks a definitely a better option...and that would bring my time to 18:00. this requires a little more time to fix... yes my mother has jupiter placed with rahu ketu in 9th in d-24. she is a professor and has many students under her belt too for Phd. here are the details of her chart date 19th april 1952 time 15:48 place 74 E 2 , 26 N 39 5: 30 east of GMT Swati namah Shivaya On 1/3/07, Michal Dziwulski < nearmichal > wrote: [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Swati, There are many schools that have churches, I went to one myself for some time. Not every student at the school had Meena in the 4th house of D24 I'm sure. There must be other factors. You were born in India but this school that you attended was Catholic - is this right? If this is the case then the nodes were clearly dominating there giving you foreign influence in your education, Rahu as one lord of the 4th house. Then you say the 2nd school had royal association. Royalty does not just come from Aries, there are many other factors that can cause this such as Atmakaraka, association with Surya etc. What about Shani in Karka? - this gives a very high rajayoga when placed in the 1st or 10th house. So maybe somehow it is giving some results here too. I'm not sure about this, but I'm just trying to look at it from as many angles as possible. If Pisces was your 4th house then the lord going to the 12th house could give primary education abroad. If we take Scorpio Lagna then 12th lord Venus and Lagnesha Mars are posted in the 7th house of travel, showing that there is the possibility of travel for the advanced education, since it aspects the 9th house. Also, dasa is there to time the event, the event has to be first seen in the chart. Just becasue dasa had changed from pisces to aries doesn't necessarily indicate a change. Did you got to a school on a farm just becasue the dasa changed to Taurus? And then go to a playground because dasa changed to Gemini? Do you see my point. I have not done any work on the D60 chart to be honest. There is just so much to learn isn't there. For your Mother's chart - remember that the nodes break the education unless there is the strong association of Jupiter. If there is, then education will continue. If you want you can share your mother's chart and we can look more. Respectfully, Michal [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] healing spaces <healingspaces > nearmichal Wednesday, January 3, 2007 2:43:35 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Jaya Jagannatha Dear Michalji, Hoping to see your valued comments on my last mail about D-24 and D-60 . Wishing u a great year ahead Swati Namah Shivaya On 12/31/06, healing spaces < healingspaces@ gmail.com> wrote: Hare Rama krsna : : Om Vyom Vyasadevaya namah Dear Michal, My Guru and learned members... Thanks for your valued inputs..it helps me learn Please correct me whenever needed. Yes Scorpio lagna with time 18:00 makes a lot more sense with many more reasons. But changing a lot in D-60 and getting my venus in MKS there ..and getting jupiter out of MKS.There is already a spouse curse and venus Ak is MKS in rashi, 12th in D-9 and now again MKS in D-60. So lot to handle. But some few pointers with sagitarius. The first lord in 12th with mercury shows possibilities of study abraod or loosing out on studies.Will pisces in 4th house being a dual sign can also give two schools. My first school convent Sophia .Pisces indicates a place more peaceful ,ocean like with church ...But ya this school at one end had a church inside the campus but had a graveyard at back which we could see. The second school was a newly founded school with royal associations and name. so Aries. Explaining the change in capricorn-pisces to capricorn -aries For my bachelors degree i moved towards SW of Jaipur city.Okie now coming to 9th lord leo in case of sagi, which has no aspects other than graha dhristi of rahu ketu ..yes may not show much of the background of my studies and campus of architecture and design. Sun as lord would show some govt association. this chart also is positive for masters and abroad education yet no more than masters with rahu and ketu in 2nd house. But with rahu ketu , also problem in completion of masters. With scorpio: It has many positives apart from getting venus out of MKS in 7th house while making Mars MKS. It gets mercury and jupiter in lagna also making me intelligent and interested in astrology. With cancer as lord of 9th house, it now gets lot many aspects of mars venus, jupiter mercury with rashi dhristi and rahu ketu with graha dhristi. By the way in our education we never had exams or written papers at all. All we had was juries and submissions, lot of model making, drafting , sketching and hard work keeping up late in nights..So what i succeded mostly was keeping getting my ideas to jury and teachers , while collecting lot of jealousy among the batchmates. Does scorpio give masters and abraod studies? Now a lot changes with D-60 ..the options are again : (Sagi in D-24 with taurus in D-60 sarpa amsa rising , Venus in 4th ) or (scorpio in D-24 with pisces in D-60, indu amsa rising, venus in 6th ). Some pointers...I have had some accidents with head injury and eye afflictions and teeth issues. little problems and differences in home enviornment. Rest later after ur valued comments. i have been trying these techniques with some other charts ...and getting either very good results or not so good . Especially my mothers chart has rahu ketu jupiter in 9th in D-24 but she has done PHD and is a professor. Would i rectify her chart too? Swati Om Gurave Namah : : Om Shreem mahalakshmai namah : : Namah Shivaya Wish u all a great yr ahead and ur family...and may light shine in all of us. Bless me with more aparvidya:) On 12/31/06, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote: [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Swati, If we make Scorpio the Lagna for your D24 chart then Aquarius will be the 4th house. There are two lords, so you attended two schools. Rahu will indicate the school with more of a foreign influence - like a different religion, or different social values etc. If Sagitarius is the Lagna then the Sun would be the 9th lord, and, I could be wrong, but I don't see how the Sun in Virgo would indicate Architecture and Design. Then also the Nodes would be aspecting the 9th house by Rasi drsti and putting an end to any further education. And how would we explain the top marks you get? We always use mean nodes for natal horoscopes. Respectfully, Michal [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] healing spaces <healingspaces@ gmail.com> sohamsa@ .com ; nearmichal Sunday, December 31, 2006 8:41:47 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Hare Rama Krsna, Dear Michal , Sorry that was a mistype where i missed the word. i have not finished higher education. i did my schooling from two schools in same town. Shifted from convent school to more a royal school in 1993. this was i think during narayana dasha shift of cap-pisces to cap-taurus. After my 12th standard, i joined this design and architecture 5 yr course away from my home town. So do u see scorpio as my lagna, that would bring my time to 18:00. i have tried this rectification before. Wil saturn in 9th suffice for the delay that i have faced. Sorry i am confused do we use true nodes option or mean nodes and explanation for same.i think i tinkered the default settings. Thanks Swati Om gurave namah On 12/31/06, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote: [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Swati, Having a further look I realised I had missed an important factor. In the D24 Narayana dasa of Gemini the 9th lord is strongly aspecting the dasa rasi. This is certainly a positive indication for the completion of your degree. Sorry for the confusion. Respectfully, Michal [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > sohamsa@ .com Sunday, December 31, 2006 7:57:48 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Swati, When you say you finished your higher education, what did you study before? Currently you are doing architecture and design, but did you study anything before this? If we were to move the D24 Lagna to Scorpio then this is how I would see it - Jupiter and Mercury with Dig Bala in the first house giving an excellent student - remember Lagna in any divisional chart is you. 9th house has retrograde Shani showing delays in the completion of these studies. 9th Lord going to 2nd house showing that these studies will have to lead to post graduate pursuits. Architecture requires a lot of understanding of engineering and is very logical, whereas design is more artistic - and here we would have the combination of Mars (Lagnesha) and Venus aspecting the 9th house. That duo in the Lagna also aspects the 9th house which would explain all those high marks. If we take Narayana Dasa of D24 chart you will see that Taurus dasa has been running from 1995 to the present and is nearly over. Taurus houses the combination of Mars and Venus that aspects your 9th house. What do you think about Gemini dasa coming up next? It is the 8th house, and its lord is conjoined the 5th lord in Lagna. The 5th house is concerned with spirituality, and the 4th from there (8th house) is the learning of the same. So maybe you might be taking a break from your studies to pursue something more spiritual. No doubt you will be thinking a lot about post-grad, since Jupiter is lord of the 2nd, but you can't go on to that until you complete 9th house first. Respectfully, Michal [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] healing spaces <healingspaces@ gmail.com> sohamsa@ .com Saturday, December 30, 2006 2:09:19 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Hare Rama krsna Dear Michal, Its always great to gather inputs from all on a great forum like this ... And i must congratulate YOU that u caught a great nerve that is troubling me in my life. I have finished my higher education. Further i joined a five yr BACHELORS course in architecture and design. My first 9 semesters had me being topping in all subjects, which created lots of jealousy around me.. Moreover i was having a lot of family troubles at the background,which still continue. My tenth semster which includes writing a thesis , has gone for a long stretch after this and yes i have still not completed it. it still has to go through last stages of submission and viva, as i can never leave a hope.I have not failed yet but it has delayed for more than 4 yrs. The delay has occured due to my perfectionist attitude, my lost ability to overcome situations, lost relationships and the overarching family issues. In mean time yes i have started freelancing and sustaining myself financially, yet i would not say i am settled in career. Sharing all this information, for study purposes. U could comment of birth rectification. I have gone over trying to rectify but never succeded. Would love to know when will i finish and get my degree in hand? Are there any remedies particularly for same.Still a HOPE to pursue post-grad. Any HOPE? or possibility of working abroad? Thanks Swati Om Gurave Namah On 12/30/06, Michal Dziwulski < nearmichal > wrote: [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Swati, Hope you don't mind my input. In your D24 chart Rahu and Ketu occupy the 2nd house which is seen for post graduate study ie. Masters, Honours. This can be overcome if a strong Jupiter associates, as he will want you to continue learning. Has your chart been rectified? Also 9th lord Sun going to the 10th house would indicate an end to bachelor level education and entering into work. Rahu and Ketu are the only other planets aspecting the 9th house. Did you complete your higher education? If you did then maybe the Lagna has to be shifted. Please share your experience for the purpose of learning. Respectfully, Michal [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] healing spaces <healingspaces > sohamsa@ .com Friday, December 29, 2006 1:01:08 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Hare rama krsna Pranam Sweeji, No i am not married yet ...Altough i have had a past relationship. And am not planning to get married yet .. Want to go abraod and pursue post-grad and research in design and architecture. Don't know if this is possible. u mentioned badhakesh period till 2012 . i think later to that even i will be running badhaksthan pisces chara dasha till 2020. When do u forsee marriage ? 'Demented quite, I must have been if I did not suggest Pearl as an upaya. Tis not for you to adorn.' Did u mean this is MUST for me.. ?What about emerald ? Swati Om gurave namah On 12/29/06, Swee Chan <sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com> wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Swati, Namaste Demented quite, I must have been if I did not suggest Pearl as an upaya. Tis not for you to adorn. Badhakesh period extends to 2012 Challenges in area of spousal affairs. Are you married yet? If so, wouldn't you wish upon a star that he'd be a cutting edge more spiritual? Love, Swee On 12/28/06 10:11 PM, "healing spaces" <healingspaces@ gmail.com> wrote: Hare Rama Krsna Pranam Sweeji, and members Here are the birth details Date 15th april 1979 time 18: 05 place jaipur city , rajasthan 75 E 49 26 N 55 Definitely shall figure out on my own about which audio it was ..:)Shall look forward for the worthy discussions. on pointers like kevala mahyogada, vaiseshikamsa and other discourses. gemstones and physical holdings always carry a fancy ...and more positive feeling of holding. Wishes Swati Namah Shivya : Om Gurave Namah On 12/28/06, Swee Chan <sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com> wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Swati, Namaste Can you give your deets again? Sorry, can't seem to find the time (without disturbance) to listen to the mp3's including the ones I've bought :| Love, Swee On 12/28/06 12:19 PM, "healing spaces" <healingspaces@ gmail.com <http://gmail. com> > wrote: Hare Rama krsna Dear Sweeji, Are u talking about Narshimaji books that contains information on yogada and vaiseshika. I still have to pick up that book. Do u know which audio contains the details. In my chart mars and mercury form kevala mahayogada, would they turn beneficiary for me ..or still remain dhrita badhak and problem creators. In vaiseshikamsa i have sun with high strength and exalted in many divisional charts ...but is functional malefic for my chart and also in gandhta. u had prescribed me pearl seeing the rising ascendant hasta nakshatra and also acc to dwisaptati dasha. while for emerald u see sometimes the best remedies is to initiate the debilated planet... Now Anuj ji with suggests citrine with his conclusions. Vistiji recommends no stones.. It wil be good if i compile it all together for study purpose..... and we could reach some lasting conclusions. .Wishing my Guru is around..and would enrich this discussion.. Lastly i am seeign this as more a learning process.. as i really dont see myself making any investments in near future, until it costs me less.Just for curosity sake.. Bharat ji what do the yantras cost ? Swati On 12/28/06, swami <swami_rcs > wrote: II Om Gurave Namah II Hari om , Friend, Dear Sarvashree swee and Anuj, Thanks to both of you.In light of hint from Swee and analysis of Swati chart, based on concept by Anuj ,if combined: I understand we can check prescription of Gems in critical cases. In fact Swati chart and her wearing of Gems case is interesting for , it breeds ground for correct application of this small segment of Vedic knowledge. By the way concept of Yogi and Avayogi may be a part of Achyut parampara, since during Panchang lecture Pt Sanjay has asked his students to work out Yoga point and other details , that he promised to discuss next time. Concept of Yoga avyoga is well adopted in west and Late sh.H.R Shanker has also written about it in Astrological Magazine .Jyotish tool , Digital jyotish,Astroloka etc are good software and DJ is excellent to give a fair trial to Teachings of Sh.H.R.S.Iyer' s work. I feel in spite of differences we should continue to share knowledge. Lastly i thank both of you and Visti and of course Swati who has permitted discussion on her chart on open forum. Sarve Bhavantu Sukhinah Sarve Santu Niramaya Sarve Bhadrani Pasyantu Ma Kashchid Dukh Bhaag Bhaveit HARI OM TATSAT ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- R.C.Srivastava For Consultation -Service E-mail : swami_rcs 199,MMIG "Guru Kripa" Shaheed Nagar. 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