Guest guest Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 Hare Rama Krsna , dear Michal, Gurus and members Found some more siddhamsa lectures by Sanjay Rathiji, don't know from where i picked them, but are not from atri it seems. they are saved from august on my computer. If u need them i can pass those too. The discussion on his chart is very interesting . And there are some more points than the Atri Audio:) I have put some doubts on ur comments and recent addition to my listening the new audios. Yes scorpio seems to be more positive also at the level of phd. and directly takes my attention, but delay and problems in 9th house has made me more skeptical. my notes in blue The same school can have many different meanings for all people. Someone that was badly bullied there will have different combinations to signify their schooling experience. First see the planets in the 9th house, then the Lord, and then the aspects. In this order we can see the higher education. Don´t you think its interesting that your school, represented by the 4th lord Saturn, transformed into a University, as it is placed in the 9th house? No its not my school that turned into college or university. my two schools were in jaipur, one being convent girls school , and other being a co-ed royal school. infact college is in different city all together. i moved from jaipur to ahmedabad , towards slight south west. the college that i was studyingis very focused to designwith no other faculties turned into deemed university in later years. Also its important to know that the bachelors i was going through is five yrs, where first 6 semesters are in college, the next semester of six months is job, the next thee semesters are in college. Then we have a thesis (which is almost like a phd thesis at times, and people)it is this thesis which i delayed in. sometimes i feel i am doing phd and gemini Also probably my convocation to this degree wil happen in gemini dasha. Sagitarius Some new views i heard in these new audios was , that the 4th lord placemnt shows the seed and final desire to education and 7th lord shows the end to formal education till phd level. In this case 4th lord with 7th lord in 12th house can be positive sign for abroad possibilities. Also he mentions that if 9th lord in 10th can create problem in finishing the bachelors. cant the moon aspect from lagna to sun indicate architecture, design, photography.i am just considering if we my time was any way right as 18:05, than what do i do remedy it. And give me post-grad. 4 yrs delay , and my in between working can attribute to its break. Hope this is not the case, but are there any positive ends to it? Also i know in soem way family has also been reason for certain delay. Scorpio Delay is Saturn. Always mean nodes. So my spiritual education , since it is lord of 3rd house is distracting my delay:) Look at it this way. Does the lord of any house going to another house have any significance? It must. What about the Arudhapada of the 2nd falling in the 12th house? Moon can indicate the public and social things, so it can be something like the design of a town, or buildings that have to do with the public like halls, meeting places etc. Hope i do this, and work around same direction:) i wil be so glad. any remedies that i can pursue for the coming dasha, and timing of when i wil go. Respectfully, Swati [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Swati, I never said that Saturn would give rajayoga to you. All I said was that if we were to take Saturn in Cancer as Lagna for one of your schools, then the school would have the charachteristics of some rajyoga ie. be prestigious, royal etc. If Sagitarius was the Lagna then how would you explain design? Lord of the ninth is Sun in Virgo and the 9th is aspected by the nodes. Let us first try to be straight - 9th house is for bachelor level education. Sagitarius Why would the 1st lord going to the 12th give overseas education for masters and not for primary education? Jupiter is also the 4th lord - so don't you think that your first schooling experience (4th house) would have been abroad? Scorpio Instead, look at it this way, 2nd lord of Masters education (Jupiter) is in the 12th from there - so your post-graduate studies will be overseas. Moon is in badhaksthana from Gemini and in the 7th house which also deals with travel - so you have two conspiring to take you abroad in this dasa. So is Sanjay's recent Siddhamsa lecture in English? Looking forward to more of your thoughts. Please have a good look at Scorpio Lagna for the reasons I have given and tell me what you think. Respectfully, Michal [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] ----- Original Message ---- healing spaces <healingspaces <http://gmail.com/> > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa> Saturday, January 6, 2007 9:06:12 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Hare Rama krsna Dear Michal ... Thanks for ur continous posts and interest.. I am learning a lot:) With scorpio 18:00 ..my badhakesh becomes 9th lord moon , while lord of 3rd and 4th saturn placed in 9th gets placed in 9th house badhakstha, so dont know if its rajyoga. For two yrs , saturn has been transitting cancer, and i faced most of my delays in last two yrs, altough i think now with saturn retro transit, will result in submission and finishing of my viva. how will the end be seen for 9th house? it should end is taursu-Aquarius( which antar) dasha itself i am not so good in narayana dasha yet... cant make out what gemini dasha wil bring and also aspect of moon ..moos is also badhakesh.. Also if i pursue post-masters its going to be abraod so i need combination for both:) also what would be the post masters in.. there are no aspects to 2nd house now, so moon is going to decide the specialization course in design? help me to see gemini narayan dasha also. i see more chances of abroad in sagitarius lagna 18:05 . as the 1st lord is in 12th and badhaksthana gemini may start operating now and badhakesh is also in is also in 12th house. however moon has to come into play as it aspects gemini... Also with rahu ketu in 2nd and many aspects it can show many influences on masters degree:) i think i am confused now for my D-24 enough:) For mother ..yes possible we need to go backward for her time too...altough at bachelors level she did sanskrit, and some other subjects also..Specializatio n comes when she does masters..and moon has aspect to 2nd house. venus in 6th debilated ..i dont know... also what about her further pursuits after Ph D, writing books papers...mars in 3rd house..karaka bhava nashao..her younger bro is not there...7th house is afflicted though... Guru Sanjayjis lectures are in English mostly...so u can listen to them... Also sanjayji told the houses 5th , 10th , 3rd, 8th and 1st are for spiritual pursuits and informal learning and finally self-realization. wishes swati Namah Shivaya On 1/5/07, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal <nearmichal > > wrote: [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Swati, Yes, Saturn is the significator for delay. I have asked you before - what do you think about Gemini dasa approaching? 9th Lord Moon is aspecting this sign from the 2nd house of post-graduate studies. If your Mother has studied psychology then perhaps Moon should be in the 9th house. That would put Shani in the 7th house of Phd, and as Shani is karaka for the 10th house it would make sense that her studies had the focus of 'vocation' and the psychology of that as Moon aspects. Shakti yoga is good if malefics are there, Mars in her case, as the this shows the power to overcome anger, hatred etc. Respectfully, Michal [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] healing spaces <healingspaces <http://gmail.com/> > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa> Friday, January 5, 2007 8:47:14 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Hare Rama krsna Dear Michal, Thanks...Does saturn show delay with rajyoga as well? with this D-24 when do u see a possibility of post-grad? My mother is a professor in psychology and has done phd in vocational psychology. No, i don't think she had any problems in bachelors. She started working in very early age by 22 after finishing her masters. She did PhD after her marriage i believe.She got married in May 1974. what would u say about her father from 9th house? he had parkinsons for many yrs and suffered a lot. She also has strong shakti yoga in 7th house involving Ak . So some dischords too. Swati Namah shivaya On 1/5/07, Michal Dziwulski < nearmichal <nearmichal > > wrote: [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Swati, Shani in Karka gives rajyoga in the 1st or 10th houses. So, if we take your 9th house in Siddhamsa and call that the Lagna for one of your schools then this combination is present. Can you give details about what your Mother studied? Jupiter, Rahu and Ketu in Scorpio could give some kind of scientific field like radiology or chemistry. Mercury and Rahu in the Navamsa Lagna indicates homeopathy. The lord of the 9th is exalted but retrograde - did she have to work very hard to complete her bachelor level studies? In the Rasi chart Lagna Lord is exalted in the 9th with the 5th lord - I can really believe she has a lot of students! Respectfully, > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Swati, > > There are many schools that have churches, I went to one myself for some time. Not every student at the school had Meena in the 4th house of D24 I'm sure. There must be other factors. > > You were born in India but this school that you attended was Catholic - is this right? If this is the case then the nodes were clearly dominating there giving you foreign influence in your education, Rahu as one lord of the 4th house. > > Then you say the 2nd school had royal association. Royalty does not just come from Aries, there are many other factors that can cause this such as Atmakaraka, association with Surya etc. What > about Shani in Karka? - this gives a very high rajayoga when placed in the 1st or 10th house. So maybe somehow it is giving some results here too. I'm not sure about this, but I'm just trying to look at it from as many angles as possible. > > If Pisces was your 4th house then the lord going to the 12th house could give primary education abroad. If we take Scorpio Lagna then 12th lord Venus and Lagnesha Mars are posted in the 7th house of travel, showing that there is the possibility of travel for the advanced education, since it aspects the 9th house. > > Also, dasa is there to time the event, the event has to be first seen in the chart. Just becasue dasa had changed from pisces to aries doesn't necessarily indicate a change. Did you got to a school on a farm just becasue the dasa changed to Taurus? And then go to a playground because dasa changed to Gemini? Do you see my point. > > I have not done any work on the D60 chart to be > honest. There is just so much to learn isn't there. > For your Mother's chart - remember that the nodes break the education unless there is the strong association of Jupiter. If there is, then education will continue. If you want you can share your mother's chart and we can look more. > > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > healing spaces healingspaces > > > > > > nearmichal > Wednesday, January 3, 2007 2:43:35 AM > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > Dear Michalji, > > > Hoping to see your valued comments on my last mail about D-24 and D-60 . > > Wishing u a great year ahead > > Swati > > Namah Shivaya > > On 12/31/06, healing spaces < > > > > > > healingspaces@ gmail.com> wrote: > Hare Rama krsna : : Om Vyom Vyasadevaya namah > > Dear Michal, My Guru and learned members... > > Thanks for your valued inputs..it helps me learn Please correct me whenever needed. > Yes Scorpio lagna with time 18:00 makes a lot more sense with many more reasons. But changing a lot in D-60 and getting my venus in MKS there ..and getting jupiter out of MKS.There is already a spouse curse and venus Ak is MKS in rashi, 12th in D-9 and now again MKS in D-60. So lot to handle. > > > But some few pointers with sagitarius. > > The first lord in 12th with mercury shows possibilities of study abraod or loosing out on studies.Will > pisces in 4th house being a dual sign can also give two schools. My first school convent Sophia .Pisces indicates a place more peaceful ,ocean like with church ...But ya this school at one end had a church inside the campus but had a graveyard at back which we could see. > > The second school was a newly founded school with royal associations and name. so Aries. > > Explaining the change in capricorn-pisces to capricorn -aries > > > For my bachelors degree i moved towards SW of Jaipur city.Okie now coming to 9th lord leo in case of sagi, which has no aspects other than graha dhristi of rahu ketu ..yes may not show much of the background of my studies and campus of architecture and design. Sun as lord would show some govt association. this chart also is positive for masters and abroad education yet no more than masters with rahu and ketu in 2nd house. But with rahu ketu , also problem in completion of masters. > > > With scorpio: > > It has many positives apart from getting venus out of MKS in 7th house while making Mars MKS. It gets mercury and jupiter in lagna also making me intelligent and interested in astrology. With cancer as lord of 9th house, it now gets lot many aspects of mars venus, jupiter mercury with rashi dhristi and rahu ketu with graha dhristi. > > By the way in our education we never had exams or written papers at all. All we had was juries and submissions, lot of model making, drafting , sketching and hard work keeping up late in nights..So what i succeded mostly was keeping getting my ideas to jury and teachers , while collecting lot of jealousy among the batchmates. > Does scorpio give masters and abraod studies? > > > Now a lot changes with D-60 ..the options are again : (Sagi in D-24 with taurus in D-60 sarpa amsa rising , Venus in 4th ) or (scorpio in D-24 with pisces in D-60, indu amsa rising, venus in 6th ). > > Some pointers...I have had some accidents with head injury and eye afflictions and teeth issues. little problems and differences in home enviornment. > > > Rest later after ur valued comments. i have been trying these techniques with some other charts ...and getting either very good results or not so good . Especially my mothers chart has rahu ketu jupiter in 9th in D-24 but she has done PHD and is a professor. Would i rectify her chart too? > > Swati > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Shreem mahalakshmai namah : : Namah Shivaya > > Wish u all a great yr ahead and ur family...and may light shine in all of us. Bless me with more aparvidya:) > > > On 12/31/06, Michal Dziwulski nearmichal > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Swati, > > > If we make Scorpio the Lagna for your D24 chart then Aquarius will be the 4th house. There are two lords, so you attended two schools. Rahu will indicate the school with more of a foreign influence - like a different religion, or different social values etc. > > > If Sagitarius is the Lagna then the Sun would be the 9th lord, and, I could be wrong, but I don't see how the Sun in Virgo would indicate Architecture and Design. Then also the Nodes would be aspecting the 9th house by Rasi drsti and putting an end to any further education. And how would we explain the top marks you get? > > > We always use mean nodes for natal horoscopes. > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo > Narayanaya ] > > > healing spaces <healingspaces@ > gmail.com> > To: sohamsa@ .com > ; nearmichal > Sunday, December 31, 2006 8:41:47 AM > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > Hare Rama Krsna, > Dear Michal , > > Sorry that was a mistype where i missed the word. i have not finished higher education. > i did my schooling from two schools in same town. Shifted from convent school to more a royal school in 1993. this was i think during narayana dasha shift of cap-pisces to cap-taurus. After my 12th standard, i joined this design and architecture 5 yr course away from my home town. > > > So do u see scorpio as my lagna, that would bring my time to 18:00. i have tried this rectification before. Wil saturn in 9th suffice for the delay that i have faced. > > > Sorry i am confused do we use true nodes option or mean nodes and explanation for same.i think i tinkered the default settings. > > Thanks > Swati > > > Om gurave namah > > > > > On 12/31/06, Michal Dziwulski > nearmichal > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Swati, > > > Having a further look I realised I had missed an important factor. In the D24 Narayana dasa of Gemini the 9th lord is strongly aspecting the dasa rasi. This is certainly a positive indication for the completion of your degree. Sorry for the confusion. > > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > Michal Dziwulski nearmichal > > To: > sohamsa@ .com > > Sunday, December 31, 2006 7:57:48 AM > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: > [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Swati, > > When you say you finished your higher education, what did you study before? Currently you are doing architecture and design, but did you study anything before this? > > > If we were to move the D24 Lagna to Scorpio then this is how I would see it - Jupiter and Mercury with Dig Bala in the first house giving an excellent student - remember Lagna in any divisional chart is you. 9th house has retrograde Shani showing delays in the completion of these studies. 9th Lord going to 2nd house showing that these studies will have to lead to post graduate pursuits. Architecture requires a lot of understanding of engineering and is very logical, whereas design is more artistic - and here we > would have the combination of Mars (Lagnesha) and Venus aspecting the 9th house. That duo in the Lagna also aspects the 9th house which would explain all those high marks. > > If we take Narayana Dasa of D24 chart you will see that Taurus dasa has been running from 1995 to the present and is nearly over. Taurus houses the combination of Mars and Venus that aspects your 9th house. What do you think about Gemini dasa coming up next? It is the 8th house, and its lord is conjoined the 5th lord in Lagna. The 5th house is concerned with spirituality, and the 4th from there (8th house) is the learning of the same. So maybe you might be taking a break from your studies to pursue something more spiritual. No doubt you will be thinking a lot about post-grad, since Jupiter is lord of the 2nd, but you can't go on to that until you complete 9th house first. > > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > healing spaces <healingspaces@ gmail.com> > sohamsa@ .com > Saturday, December 30, 2006 2:09:19 PM > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > Hare Rama krsna > Dear Michal, > > > Its always great to gather inputs from all on a great forum like this .... And i must congratulate YOU that u caught a great nerve that is troubling me in my life. I have finished my higher education. Further i joined a > five yr BACHELORS course in architecture and design. My first 9 semesters had me being topping in all subjects, which created lots of jealousy around me.. Moreover i was having a lot of family troubles at the background,which still continue. My tenth semster which includes writing a thesis , has gone for a long stretch after this and yes i have still not completed it. it still has to go through last stages of submission and viva, as i can never leave a > hope.I have not failed yet but it has delayed for more than 4 yrs. The delay has occured due to my perfectionist attitude, my lost ability to overcome situations, lost relationships and the overarching family issues. In mean time yes i have started freelancing and sustaining myself financially, yet i would not say i am settled in career. > > Sharing all this information, for study purposes. U could comment of birth rectification. I have gone over trying to rectify but never succeded. > > > Would love to know when will i finish and get my degree in hand? Are there any remedies particularly for > same.Still a HOPE to pursue post-grad. Any HOPE? or possibility of working abroad? > Thanks > > > > Swati > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > On 12/30/06, Michal Dziwulski < > > nearmichal > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Swati, > > Hope you don't mind my input. In your D24 chart Rahu and Ketu occupy the 2nd house which is seen for post graduate study ie. Masters, Honours. This can be overcome if a strong Jupiter associates, as he will want you to continue learning. Has your chart been rectified? Also 9th lord Sun going to the 10th house would indicate an end to bachelor level education and entering into work. Rahu and Ketu are the only other planets aspecting the 9th house. Did you complete your higher education? If you did then maybe the Lagna has to be shifted. Please share your experience for the purpose of learning. > > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > healing spaces healingspaces > To: > > sohamsa@ .com > > Friday, December 29, 2006 1:01:08 PM > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > Hare rama krsna > > Pranam Sweeji, > > > No > i am not married yet ...Altough i have had a past relationship. And am > not planning to get married yet .. Want to go abraod and pursue post-grad and > research in design and architecture. Don't know if this is possible. > > > u > mentioned badhakesh period till 2012 . i think later to that even i > will be running badhaksthan pisces chara dasha till 2020. When do u > forsee marriage ? > > 'Demented quite, I must have been if I did not suggest Pearl as an upaya. Tis not for you to adorn.' > Did u mean this is MUST for me.. ?What about emerald ? > > > Swati > > > Om gurave namah On 12/29/06, > Swee Chan sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Swati, > > Namaste > > > > Demented quite, I must have been if I did not suggest Pearl as an upaya. Tis not for you to adorn. Badhakesh period extends to 2012 > > Challenges in area of spousal affairs. Are you married yet? If so, wouldn't you wish upon a star that he'd be a cutting edge more spiritual? > > > > Love, > > > > Swee > > > > > > On 12/28/06 10:11 PM, "healing spaces" <healingspaces@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > Pranam Sweeji, and members > > > > Here are the birth details > > Date 15th april 1979 > > time 18: 05 > > place jaipur city , rajasthan 75 E 49 26 N 55 > > Definitely shall figure out on my own about which audio it was ...:)Shall look forward for the worthy discussions. on pointers like kevala mahyogada, vaiseshikamsa and other discourses. > > gemstones and physical holdings always carry a fancy ...and more positive feeling of holding. > > > > Wishes > > Swati > > Namah Shivya : Om Gurave Namah > On 12/28/06, Swee Chan sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com> wrote: > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Swati, > > Namaste > > > > Can you give your deets again? Sorry, can't seem to find the time (without disturbance) to listen to the mp3's including the ones I've bought :| > > > > Love, > > > > Swee > On 12/28/06 12:19 PM, "healing spaces" <healingspaces@ gmail.com > > > > > > <http://gmail. com> > wrote: > > > > > > > Hare Rama krsna > > Dear Sweeji, > > Are u talking about Narshimaji books that contains information on yogada and vaiseshika. I still have to pick up that book. Do u know which audio contains the details. > > In my chart mars and mercury form kevala mahayogada, would they turn beneficiary for me ..or still remain dhrita badhak and problem creators. > > In vaiseshikamsa i have sun with high strength and exalted in many divisional charts ...but is functional malefic for my chart and also in gandhta. > > u had prescribed me pearl seeing the rising ascendant hasta nakshatra and also acc to dwisaptati dasha. while for emerald u see sometimes the best remedies is to initiate the debilated planet... > > Now Anuj ji with suggests citrine with his conclusions. Vistiji recommends no stones.. > > It wil be good if i compile it all together for study purpose..... and we could reach some lasting conclusions. .Wishing my Guru is around..and would enrich this discussion.. > > Lastly i am seeign this as more a learning process.. as i really dont see myself making any investments in near future, until it costs me less.Just for curosity sake.. Bharat ji what do the yantras cost ? > > > > Swati > On 12/28/06, swami swami_rcs > wrote: > > > > > > II Om Gurave Namah II > > Hari om , Friend, > > Dear Sarvashree swee and Anuj, > > Thanks to both of you.In light of hint from Swee and analysis > > of Swati chart, based on concept by Anuj ,if combined: I understand > > we can check prescription of Gems in critical cases. 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Guest guest Posted January 10, 2007 Report Share Posted January 10, 2007 [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Swati, I think I have the lectures you are talking about. Sorry, there seems to have been some confusion. Your 4th house is Aquarius - so... has two lords. These two represent your two schools in Jaipur. You mentioned one had some royal affiliation - so I pointed out Saturn in Cancer, as it is a combination for royalty. Two major points that you still have not been able to answer regarding Sagitarius Lagna are: 1. Why did you not go overseas for your primary level education as Jupiter is 4th Lord in the 12th. 2. Why do Rahu and Ketu in the 2nd house not end the education. 9th lord in 10th can give problems, but what kind of problems? Usually related to work, ending the education and joining the workforce career - 10th house. Or if the 7th house is involved, getting married, or if the 12th house is involved going travelling etc. Sun is photography. But architecture is more Mars don't you think? Design is definately Venus. Moon is more caring, nuturing, healing. What about Moon in badhaksthana from Gemini dasa causing travel? Respectfully, Michal [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] designhologram <healingspaces > Wednesday, January 10, 2007 12:12:03 PM Siddhamsa [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Hare Rama Krsna , dear Michal, Gurus and members Found some more siddhamsa lectures by Sanjay Rathiji, don't know from where i picked them, but are not from atri it seems. they are saved from august on my computer. If u need them i can pass those too. The discussion on his chart is very interesting . And there are some more points than the Atri Audio:) I have put some doubts on ur comments and recent addition to my listening the new audios. Yes scorpio seems to be more positive also at the level of phd. and directly takes my attention, but delay and problems in 9th house has made me more skeptical. my notes in blue The same school can have many different meanings for all people. Someone that was badly bullied there will have different combinations to signify their schooling experience. First see the planets in the 9th house, then the Lord, and then the aspects.. In this order we can see the higher education. Don´t you think its interesting that your school, represented by the 4th lord Saturn, transformed into a University, as it is placed in the 9th house? No its not my school that turned into college or university. my two schools were in jaipur, one being convent girls school , and other being a co-ed royal school. infact college is in different city all together. i moved from jaipur to ahmedabad , towards slight south west. the college that i was studyingis very focused to designwith no other faculties turned into deemed university in later years. Also its important to know that the bachelors i was going through is five yrs, where first 6 semesters are in college, the next semester of six months is job, the next thee semesters are in college. Then we have a thesis (which is almost like a phd thesis at times, and people)it is this thesis which i delayed in. sometimes i feel i am doing phd and gemini Also probably my convocation to this degree wil happen in gemini dasha. Sagitarius Some new views i heard in these new audios was , that the 4th lord placemnt shows the seed and final desire to education and 7th lord shows the end to formal education till phd level. In this case 4th lord with 7th lord in 12th house can be positive sign for abroad possibilities. Also he mentions that if 9th lord in 10th can create problem in finishing the bachelors. cant the moon aspect from lagna to sun indicate architecture, design, photography. i am just considering if we my time was any way right as 18:05, than what do i do remedy it. And give me post-grad. 4 yrs delay , and my in between working can attribute to its break. Hope this is not the case, but are there any positive ends to it? Also i know in soem way family has also been reason for certain delay. Scorpio Delay is Saturn. Always mean nodes. So my spiritual education , since it is lord of 3rd house is distracting my delay:) Look at it this way. Does the lord of any house going to another house have any significance? It must. What about the Arudhapada of the 2nd falling in the 12th house? Moon can indicate the public and social things, so it can be something like the design of a town, or buildings that have to do with the public like halls, meeting places etc. Hope i do this, and work around same direction:) i wil be so glad. any remedies that i can pursue for the coming dasha, and timing of when i wil go. Respectfully, Swati [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Swati, I never said that Saturn would give rajayoga to you. All I said was that if we were to take Saturn in Cancer as Lagna for one of your schools, then the school would have the charachteristics of some rajyoga ie. be prestigious, royal etc. If Sagitarius was the Lagna then how would you explain design? Lord of the ninth is Sun in Virgo and the 9th is aspected by the nodes. Let us first try to be straight - 9th house is for bachelor level education. Sagitarius Why would the 1st lord going to the 12th give overseas education for masters and not for primary education? Jupiter is also the 4th lord - so don't you think that your first schooling experience (4th house) would have been abroad? Scorpio Instead, look at it this way, 2nd lord of Masters education (Jupiter) is in the 12th from there - so your post-graduate studies will be overseas. Moon is in badhaksthana from Gemini and in the 7th house which also deals with travel - so you have two conspiring to take you abroad in this dasa. So is Sanjay's recent Siddhamsa lecture in English? Looking forward to more of your thoughts. Please have a good look at Scorpio Lagna for the reasons I have given and tell me what you think. Respectfully, Michal [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] ----- Original Message ---- healing spaces <healingspaces > sohamsa@ .com Saturday, January 6, 2007 9:06:12 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Hare Rama krsna Dear Michal ... Thanks for ur continous posts and interest.. I am learning a lot:) With scorpio 18:00 ..my badhakesh becomes 9th lord moon , while lord of 3rd and 4th saturn placed in 9th gets placed in 9th house badhakstha, so dont know if its rajyoga. For two yrs , saturn has been transitting cancer, and i faced most of my delays in last two yrs, altough i think now with saturn retro transit, will result in submission and finishing of my viva. how will the end be seen for 9th house? it should end is taursu-Aquarius( which antar) dasha itself i am not so good in narayana dasha yet... cant make out what gemini dasha wil bring and also aspect of moon ..moos is also badhakesh.. Also if i pursue post-masters its going to be abraod so i need combination for both:) also what would be the post masters in.. there are no aspects to 2nd house now, so moon is going to decide the specialization course in design? help me to see gemini narayan dasha also. i see more chances of abroad in sagitarius lagna 18:05 . as the 1st lord is in 12th and badhaksthana gemini may start operating now and badhakesh is also in is also in 12th house. however moon has to come into play as it aspects gemini... Also with rahu ketu in 2nd and many aspects it can show many influences on masters degree:) i think i am confused now for my D-24 enough:) For mother ..yes possible we need to go backward for her time too...altough at bachelors level she did sanskrit, and some other subjects also..Specializatio n comes when she does masters..and moon has aspect to 2nd house. venus in 6th debilated ..i dont know... also what about her further pursuits after Ph D, writing books papers...mars in 3rd house..karaka bhava nashao..her younger bro is not there...7th house is afflicted though... Guru Sanjayjis lectures are in English mostly...so u can listen to them... Also sanjayji told the houses 5th , 10th , 3rd, 8th and 1st are for spiritual pursuits and informal learning and finally self-realization. wishes swati Namah Shivaya On 1/5/07, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote: [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Swati, Yes, Saturn is the significator for delay. I have asked you before - what do you think about Gemini dasa approaching? 9th Lord Moon is aspecting this sign from the 2nd house of post-graduate studies. If your Mother has studied psychology then perhaps Moon should be in the 9th house. That would put Shani in the 7th house of Phd, and as Shani is karaka for the 10th house it would make sense that her studies had the focus of 'vocation' and the psychology of that as Moon aspects. Shakti yoga is good if malefics are there, Mars in her case, as the this shows the power to overcome anger, hatred etc. Respectfully, Michal [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] healing spaces <healingspaces > sohamsa@ .com Friday, January 5, 2007 8:47:14 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Hare Rama krsna Dear Michal, Thanks...Does saturn show delay with rajyoga as well? with this D-24 when do u see a possibility of post-grad? My mother is a professor in psychology and has done phd in vocational psychology. No, i don't think she had any problems in bachelors. She started working in very early age by 22 after finishing her masters. She did PhD after her marriage i believe.She got married in May 1974. what would u say about her father from 9th house? he had parkinsons for many yrs and suffered a lot. She also has strong shakti yoga in 7th house involving Ak . So some dischords too. Swati Namah shivaya On 1/5/07, Michal Dziwulski < nearmichal > wrote: [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Swati, Shani in Karka gives rajyoga in the 1st or 10th houses. So, if we take your 9th house in Siddhamsa and call that the Lagna for one of your schools then this combination is present. Can you give details about what your Mother studied? Jupiter, Rahu and Ketu in Scorpio could give some kind of scientific field like radiology or chemistry. Mercury and Rahu in the Navamsa Lagna indicates homeopathy. The lord of the 9th is exalted but retrograde - did she have to work very hard to complete her bachelor level studies? In the Rasi chart Lagna Lord is exalted in the 9th with the 5th lord - I can really believe she has a lot of students! Respectfully, > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Swati, > > There are many schools that have churches, I went to one myself for some time. Not every student at the school had Meena in the 4th house of D24 I'm sure. There must be other factors. > > You were born in India but this school that you attended was Catholic - is this right? If this is the case then the nodes were clearly dominating there giving you foreign influence in your education, Rahu as one lord of the 4th house. > > Then you say the 2nd school had royal association. Royalty does not just come from Aries, there are many other factors that can cause this such as Atmakaraka, association with Surya etc. What > about Shani in Karka? - this gives a very high rajayoga when placed in the 1st or 10th house. So maybe somehow it is giving some results here too. I'm not sure about this, but I'm just trying to look at it from as many angles as possible. > > If Pisces was your 4th house then the lord going to the 12th house could give primary education abroad. If we take Scorpio Lagna then 12th lord Venus and Lagnesha Mars are posted in the 7th house of travel, showing that there is the possibility of travel for the advanced education, since it aspects the 9th house. > > Also, dasa is there to time the event, the event has to be first seen in the chart. Just becasue dasa had changed from pisces to aries doesn't necessarily indicate a change. Did you got to a school on a farm just becasue the dasa changed to Taurus? And then go to a playground because dasa changed to Gemini? Do you see my point. > > I have not done any work on the D60 chart to be > honest. There is just so much to learn isn't there. > For your Mother's chart - remember that the nodes break the education unless there is the strong association of Jupiter. If there is, then education will continue. If you want you can share your mother's chart and we can look more. > > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > healing spaces healingspaces@ ... > > > > > > nearmichal > Wednesday, January 3, 2007 2:43:35 AM > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > Dear Michalji, > > > Hoping to see your valued comments on my last mail about D-24 and D-60 . > > Wishing u a great year ahead > > Swati > > Namah Shivaya > > On 12/31/06, healing spaces < > > > > > > healingspaces@ gmail.com> wrote: > Hare Rama krsna : : Om Vyom Vyasadevaya namah > > > > > > > > > Dear Michal, My Guru and learned members... > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your valued inputs..it helps me learn Please correct me whenever needed. > Yes Scorpio lagna with time 18:00 makes a lot more sense with many more reasons. But changing a lot in D-60 and getting my venus in MKS there ..and getting jupiter out of MKS.There is already a spouse curse and venus Ak is MKS in rashi, 12th in D-9 and now again MKS in D-60. So lot to handle. > > > But some few pointers with sagitarius. > > The first lord in 12th with mercury shows possibilities of study abraod or loosing out on studies.Will > pisces in 4th house being a dual sign can also give two schools. My first school convent Sophia .Pisces indicates a place more peaceful ,ocean like with church ...But ya this school at one end had a church inside the campus but had a graveyard at back which we could see. > > The second school was a newly founded school with royal associations and name. so Aries. > > > > > > > > > Explaining the change in capricorn-pisces to capricorn -aries > > > > > > > > > > For my bachelors degree i moved towards SW of Jaipur city.Okie now coming to 9th lord leo in case of sagi, which has no aspects other than graha dhristi of rahu ketu ..yes may not show much of the background of my studies and campus of architecture and design. Sun as lord would show some govt association. this chart also is positive for masters and abroad education yet no more than masters with rahu and ketu in 2nd house. But with rahu ketu , also problem in completion of masters. > > > With scorpio: > > > > > > > > > It has many positives apart from getting venus out of MKS in 7th house while making Mars MKS. It gets mercury and jupiter in lagna also making me intelligent and interested in astrology. With cancer as lord of 9th house, it now gets lot many aspects of mars venus, jupiter mercury with rashi dhristi and rahu ketu with graha dhristi. > > By the way in our education we never had exams or written papers at all. All we had was juries and submissions, lot of model making, drafting , sketching and hard work keeping up late in nights..So what i succeded mostly was keeping getting my ideas to jury and teachers , while collecting lot of jealousy among the batchmates. > Does scorpio give masters and abraod studies? > > > > > > > > > > Now a lot changes with D-60 ..the options are again : (Sagi in D-24 with taurus in D-60 sarpa amsa rising , Venus in 4th ) or (scorpio in D-24 with pisces in D-60, indu amsa rising, venus in 6th ). > > Some pointers...I have had some accidents with head injury and eye afflictions and teeth issues. little problems and differences in home enviornment.. > > > Rest later after ur valued comments. i have been trying these techniques with some other charts ...and getting either very good results or not so good . Especially my mothers chart has rahu ketu jupiter in 9th in D-24 but she has done PHD and is a professor. Would i rectify her chart too? > > Swati > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Shreem mahalakshmai namah : : Namah Shivaya > > > > > > > > > Wish u all a great yr ahead and ur family...and may light shine in all of us. Bless me with more aparvidya:) > > > > > > > > > > On 12/31/06, Michal Dziwulski nearmichal > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Swati, > > > If we make Scorpio the Lagna for your D24 chart then Aquarius will be the 4th house. There are two lords, so you attended two schools. Rahu will indicate the school with more of a foreign influence - like a different religion, or different social values etc. > > > If Sagitarius is the Lagna then the Sun would be the 9th lord, and, I could be wrong, but I don't see how the Sun in Virgo would indicate Architecture and Design. Then also the Nodes would be aspecting the 9th house by Rasi drsti and putting an end to any further education. And how would we explain the top marks you get? > > > We always use mean nodes for natal horoscopes. > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo > Narayanaya ] > > > healing spaces <healingspaces@ > gmail.com> > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > ; nearmichal > Sunday, December 31, 2006 8:41:47 AM > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > Hare Rama Krsna, > Dear Michal , > > Sorry that was a mistype where i missed the word. i have not finished higher education. > i did my schooling from two schools in same town. Shifted from convent school to more a royal school in 1993. this was i think during narayana dasha shift of cap-pisces to cap-taurus. After my 12th standard, i joined this design and architecture 5 yr course away from my home town. > > > So do u see scorpio as my lagna, that would bring my time to 18:00. i have tried this rectification before. Wil saturn in 9th suffice for the delay that i have faced. > > > Sorry i am confused do we use true nodes option or mean nodes and explanation for same.i think i tinkered the default settings. > > Thanks > Swati > > > > > > > > > > Om gurave namah > > > > > On 12/31/06, Michal Dziwulski > nearmichal > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Swati, > > > Having a further look I realised I had missed an important factor. In the D24 Narayana dasa of Gemini the 9th lord is strongly aspecting the dasa rasi. This is certainly a positive indication for the completion of your degree. Sorry for the confusion. > > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > Michal Dziwulski nearmichal > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > Sunday, December 31, 2006 7:57:48 AM > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: > [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Swati, > > When you say you finished your higher education, what did you study before? Currently you are doing architecture and design, but did you study anything before this? > > > If we were to move the D24 Lagna to Scorpio then this is how I would see it - Jupiter and Mercury with Dig Bala in the first house giving an excellent student - remember Lagna in any divisional chart is you. 9th house has retrograde Shani showing delays in the completion of these studies. 9th Lord going to 2nd house showing that these studies will have to lead to post graduate pursuits. Architecture requires a lot of understanding of engineering and is very logical, whereas design is more artistic - and here we > would have the combination of Mars (Lagnesha) and Venus aspecting the 9th house. That duo in the Lagna also aspects the 9th house which would explain all those high marks. > > If we take Narayana Dasa of D24 chart you will see that Taurus dasa has been running from 1995 to the present and is nearly over. Taurus houses the combination of Mars and Venus that aspects your 9th house. What do you think about Gemini dasa coming up next? It is the 8th house, and its lord is conjoined the 5th lord in Lagna. The 5th house is concerned with spirituality, and the 4th from there (8th house) is the learning of the same. So maybe you might be taking a break from your studies to pursue something more spiritual. No doubt you will be thinking a lot about post-grad, since Jupiter is lord of the 2nd, but you can't go on to that until you complete 9th house first. > > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > healing spaces <healingspaces@ gmail.com> > sohamsa@ .com > Saturday, December 30, 2006 2:09:19 PM > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama krsna > Dear Michal, > > > Its always great to gather inputs from all on a great forum like this ... And i must congratulate YOU that u caught a great nerve that is troubling me in my life. I have finished my higher education. Further i joined a > five yr BACHELORS course in architecture and design. My first 9 semesters had me being topping in all subjects, which created lots of jealousy around me.. Moreover i was having a lot of family troubles at the background,which still continue. My tenth semster which includes writing a thesis , has gone for a long stretch after this and yes i have still not completed it. it still has to go through last stages of submission and viva, as i can never leave a > hope.I have not failed yet but it has delayed for more than 4 yrs. The delay has occured due to my perfectionist attitude, my lost ability to overcome situations, lost relationships and the overarching family issues. In mean time yes i have started freelancing and sustaining myself financially, yet i would not say i am settled in career. > > Sharing all this information, for study purposes. U could comment of birth rectification. I have gone over trying to rectify but never succeded. > > > Would love to know when will i finish and get my degree in hand? Are there any remedies particularly for > same.Still a HOPE to pursue post-grad. Any HOPE? or possibility of working abroad? > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > Swati > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/30/06, Michal Dziwulski < > > > > > > > > > nearmichal > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Swati, > > Hope you don't mind my input. In your D24 chart Rahu and Ketu occupy the 2nd house which is seen for post graduate study ie. Masters, Honours. This can be overcome if a strong Jupiter associates, as he will want you to continue learning. Has your chart been rectified? Also 9th lord Sun going to the 10th house would indicate an end to bachelor level education and entering into work. Rahu and Ketu are the only other planets aspecting the 9th house. Did you complete your higher education? If you did then maybe the Lagna has to be shifted. Please share your experience for the purpose of learning. > > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > healing spaces healingspaces@ ... > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > Friday, December 29, 2006 1:01:08 PM > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krsna > > Pranam Sweeji, > > > No > i am not married yet ...Altough i have had a past relationship. And am > not planning to get married yet .. Want to go abraod and pursue post-grad and > research in design and architecture. Don't know if this is possible. > > > u > mentioned badhakesh period till 2012 . i think later to that even i > will be running badhaksthan pisces chara dasha till 2020. When do u > forsee marriage ? > > 'Demented quite, I must have been if I did not suggest Pearl as an upaya. Tis not for you to adorn.' > Did u mean this is MUST for me.. ?What about emerald ? > > > Swati > > > Om gurave namah > > > > > > > On 12/29/06, > Swee Chan sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Swati, > > Namaste > > > > Demented quite, I must have been if I did not suggest Pearl as an upaya. Tis not for you to adorn. Badhakesh period extends to 2012 > > Challenges in area of spousal affairs. Are you married yet? If so, wouldn't you wish upon a star that he'd be a cutting edge more spiritual? > > > > Love, > > > > Swee > > > > > > On 12/28/06 10:11 PM, "healing spaces" <healingspaces@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > Pranam Sweeji, and members > > > > Here are the birth details > > Date 15th april 1979 > > time 18: 05 > > place jaipur city , rajasthan 75 E 49 26 N 55 > > Definitely shall figure out on my own about which audio it was ..:)Shall look forward for the worthy discussions. on pointers like kevala mahyogada, vaiseshikamsa and other discourses. > > gemstones and physical holdings always carry a fancy ...and more positive feeling of holding. > > > > Wishes > > Swati > > Namah Shivya : Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > On 12/28/06, Swee Chan sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Swati, > > Namaste > > > > Can you give your deets again? Sorry, can't seem to find the time (without disturbance) to listen to the mp3's including the ones I've bought :| > > > > Love, > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > On 12/28/06 12:19 PM, "healing spaces" <healingspaces@ gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://gmail. com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama krsna > > Dear Sweeji, > > Are u talking about Narshimaji books that contains information on yogada and vaiseshika. I still have to pick up that book. Do u know which audio contains the details. > > In my chart mars and mercury form kevala mahayogada, would they turn beneficiary for me ..or still remain dhrita badhak and problem creators. > > In vaiseshikamsa i have sun with high strength and exalted in many divisional charts ...but is functional malefic for my chart and also in gandhta. > > u had prescribed me pearl seeing the rising ascendant hasta nakshatra and also acc to dwisaptati dasha. while for emerald u see sometimes the best remedies is to initiate the debilated planet... > > Now Anuj ji with suggests citrine with his conclusions. Vistiji recommends no stones.. > > It wil be good if i compile it all together for study purpose..... and we could reach some lasting conclusions. .Wishing my Guru is around..and would enrich this discussion.. > > Lastly i am seeign this as more a learning process.. as i really dont see myself making any investments in near future, until it costs me less.Just for curosity sake.. Bharat ji what do the yantras cost ? > > > > Swati > > > > > > > > On 12/28/06, swami swami_rcs > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > II Om Gurave Namah II > > Hari om , Friend, > > Dear Sarvashree swee and Anuj, > > Thanks to both of you.In light of hint from Swee and analysis > > of Swati chart, based on concept by Anuj ,if combined: I understand > > we can check prescription of Gems in critical cases. In fact Swati > > chart and her wearing of Gems case is interesting for , it breeds ground > > for correct application of this small segment of Vedic knowledge. > > By the way concept of Yogi and Avayogi may be a part of Achyut > > parampara, since during Panchang lecture Pt Sanjay has asked his > > students to work out Yoga point and other details , that he promised to > > discuss next time. > > Concept of Yoga avyoga is well adopted in west and Late sh.H.R Shanker > > has also written about it in Astrological Magazine .Jyotish tool , > > Digital jyotish,Astroloka etc are good software and DJ is excellent to give > > a fair trial to Teachings of Sh.H.R.S.Iyer' s work. > > I feel in spite of differences we should continue to share knowledge. > > Lastly i thank both of you and Visti and of course Swati who has permitted > > discussion on her chart on open forum. > > > > > > > > Sarve Bhavantu Sukhinah > > Sarve Santu Niramaya > > Sarve Bhadrani Pasyantu > > Ma Kashchid Dukh Bhaag Bhaveit > > HARI OM TATSAT > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- > > R.C.Srivastava > > For Consultation -Service > > E-mail : swami_rcs > > > > 199,MMIG "Guru Kripa" > > Shaheed Nagar. 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Guest guest Posted January 10, 2007 Report Share Posted January 10, 2007 Hare Rama Krsna : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah Dear Michal, Gurus and members Sanjayji's lectures on Siddhamsa are wonderful and i wil like to thank him for he wonderful resources provided by him for learning. i remember my first discussion with my guru was also in d-24. I am learning so much through this discussion Michal ji . Even trying to apply it on the charts of my known ones and friends from campus. Altough here are some basic Some doubts on D-24, Please help me through them. 1. What will the significant things that come in play when 1st house placements are rahu ketu. 2. How would one proceed when rahu ketu are in 4th house. does it mean problems or end at formal education. how would it differ from rahu ketu rashi dhristi aspect to the 4th house. How would it differ from graha drishti aspect. And in what conditions does it allow forward movement in education 3. 5th house or 10th house are marak houses to formal education and bachelors education. What will rahu ketu placements do in marak houses placements. 4 What kind of studies can be actually shown by rahu, ketu: Can they play any role? in todays age when we do most of our learning through internet, computers?Also rahu ketu are known as planets for radical or futuristic inventions. Consider some body studying interactive embedded technology, nanotechnology. What planets wil play role? 6. do we at any time consider graha aspects in these charts. 7. how would narayana dasha dictate and can change ur course of study. Imagine a person doing bachelors degree, and the person is running narayan dasha of the 7th house which denotes the ending to education in certain way .. 8. Shall post another mail for the questions u asked Michal on my D-24 Scorpio and Sagitarrius. Thanks in advance. Swati Om gurave namah On 1/10/07, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote: > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Swati, > > I think I have the lectures you are talking about. > > Sorry, there seems to have been some confusion. Your 4th house is > Aquarius - so... has two lords. These two represent your two schools in > Jaipur. You mentioned one had some royal affiliation - so I pointed out > Saturn in Cancer, as it is a combination for royalty. > > Two major points that you still have not been able to answer regarding > Sagitarius Lagna are: > 1. Why did you not go overseas for your primary level education as Jupiter > is 4th Lord in the 12th. > 2. Why do Rahu and Ketu in the 2nd house not end the education. > > 9th lord in 10th can give problems, but what kind of problems? Usually > related to work, ending the education and joining the workforce career - > 10th house. Or if the 7th house is involved, getting married, or if the > 12th house is involved going travelling etc. > > Sun is photography. But architecture is more Mars don't you think? > Design is definately Venus. Moon is more caring, nuturing, healing. > > What about Moon in badhaksthana from Gemini dasa causing travel? > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > designhologram <healingspaces > > > Wednesday, January 10, 2007 12:12:03 PM > Siddhamsa [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna > Guru] > > *Hare Rama Krsna , > dear Michal, Gurus and members > Found some more siddhamsa lectures by Sanjay Rathiji, don't know from > where i picked them, but are not from atri it seems. they are saved from > august on my computer. If u need them i can pass those too. The discussion > on his chart is very interesting . And there are some more points than the > Atri Audio:) > I have put some doubts on ur comments and recent addition to my listening > the new audios. > > Yes scorpio seems to be more positive also at the level of phd. and > directly takes my attention, but delay and problems in 9th house has made > me more skeptical. my notes in blue > > The same school can have many different meanings for all people. Someone > that was badly bullied there will have different combinations to signify > their schooling experience. > First see the planets in the 9th house, then the Lord, and then the > aspects. In this order we can see the higher education. > Don´t you think its interesting that your school, represented by the 4th > lord Saturn, transformed into a University, as it is placed in the 9th > house? > No its not my school that turned into college or university. my two > schools were in jaipur, one being convent girls school , and other being a > co-ed royal school. infact college is in different city all together. i > moved from jaipur to ahmedabad , towards slight south west. the college that > i was studyingis very focused to designwith no other faculties turned into > deemed university in later years. Also its important to know that the > bachelors i was going through is five yrs, where first 6 semesters are in > college, the next semester of six months is job, the next thee semesters are > in college. Then we have a thesis (which is almost like a phd thesis at > times, and people)it is this thesis which i delayed in. sometimes i feel i > am doing phd and gemini Also probably my convocation to this degree wil > happen in gemini dasha. > Sagitarius > Some new views i heard in these new audios was , that the 4th lord > placemnt shows the seed and final desire to education and 7th lord shows the > end to formal education till phd level. In this case 4th lord with 7th lord > in 12th house can be positive sign for abroad possibilities. Also he > mentions that if 9th lord in 10th can create problem in finishing the > bachelors. cant the moon aspect from lagna to sun indicate architecture, > design, photography. i am just considering if we my time was any way right > as 18:05, than what do i do remedy it. And give me post-grad. 4 yrs delay , > and my in between working can attribute to its break. Hope this is not the > case, but are there any positive ends to it? Also i know in soem way family > has also been reason for certain delay. > Scorpio > Delay is Saturn. Always mean nodes. > So my spiritual education , since it is lord of 3rd house is distracting > my delay:) > > Look at it this way. Does the lord of any house going to another house > have any significance? It must. What about the Arudhapada of the 2nd > falling in the 12th house? > Moon can indicate the public and social things, so it can be something > like the design of a town, or buildings that have to do with the public like > halls, meeting places etc. > Hope i do this, and work around same direction:) i wil be so glad. any > remedies that i can pursue for the coming dasha, and timing of when i wil > go. > Respectfully, > Swati > * > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > I never said that Saturn would give rajayoga to you. All I said was > > that if we were to take Saturn in Cancer as Lagna for one of your schools, > > then the school would have the charachteristics of some rajyoga ie. be > > prestigious, royal etc. > > > > If Sagitarius was the Lagna then how would you explain design? Lord of > > the ninth is Sun in Virgo and the 9th is aspected by the nodes. Let us > > first try to be straight - 9th house is for bachelor level education. > > > > Sagitarius > > Why would the 1st lord going to the 12th give overseas education for > > masters and not for primary education? Jupiter is also the 4th lord - so > > don't you think that your first schooling experience (4th house) would have > > been abroad? > > > > Scorpio > > Instead, look at it this way, 2nd lord of Masters education (Jupiter) is > > in the 12th from there - so your post-graduate studies will be overseas.. > > Moon is in badhaksthana from Gemini and in the 7th house which also > > deals with travel - so you have two conspiring to take you abroad in this > > dasa. > > > > So is Sanjay's recent Siddhamsa lecture in English? > > > > Looking forward to more of your thoughts. Please have a good look at > > Scorpio Lagna for the reasons I have given and tell me what you think. > > > > Respectfully, > > Michal > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > healing spaces <healingspaces > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa> > > Saturday, January 6, 2007 9:06:12 AM > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > Hare Rama krsna > > Dear Michal ... > > Thanks for ur continous posts and interest.. I am learning a lot:) > > With scorpio 18:00 ..my badhakesh becomes 9th lord moon , while lord of > > 3rd and 4th saturn placed in 9th gets placed in 9th house badhakstha, so > > dont know if its rajyoga. For two yrs , saturn has been transitting cancer, > > and i faced most of my delays in last two yrs, altough i think now with > > saturn retro transit, will result in submission and finishing of my viva. > > how will the end be seen for 9th house? it should end is taursu-Aquarius( > > which antar) dasha itself > > i am not so good in narayana dasha yet... cant make out what gemini > > dasha wil bring and also aspect of moon ..moos is also badhakesh.. Also if i > > pursue post-masters its going to be abraod so i need combination for both:) > > also what would be the post masters in.. there are no aspects to 2nd house > > now, so moon is going to decide the specialization course in design? > > help me to see gemini narayan dasha also. > > > > i see more chances of abroad in sagitarius lagna 18:05 . as the 1st > > lord is in 12th and badhaksthana gemini may start operating now and > > badhakesh is also in is also in 12th house. however moon has to come into > > play as it aspects gemini... Also with rahu ketu in 2nd and many aspects it > > can show many influences on masters degree:) > > > > i think i am confused now for my D-24 enough:) > > > > For mother ..yes possible we need to go backward for her time > > too...altough at bachelors level she did sanskrit, and some other subjects > > also..Specializatio n comes when she does masters..and moon has aspect to > > 2nd house. venus in 6th debilated ..i dont know... also what about her > > further pursuits after Ph D, writing books papers...mars in 3rd > > house..karaka bhava nashao..her younger bro is not there...7th house is > > afflicted though... > > > > Guru Sanjayjis lectures are in English mostly...so u can listen to > > them... > > Also sanjayji told the houses 5th , 10th , 3rd, 8th and 1st are for > > spiritual pursuits and informal learning and finally self-realization. > > > > > > wishes > > swati > > Namah Shivaya > > > > > > On 1/5/07, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal <nearmichal >> > > wrote: > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > Yes, Saturn is the significator for delay. I have asked you before - > > > what do you think about Gemini dasa approaching? 9th Lord Moon is aspecting > > > this sign from the 2nd house of post-graduate studies. > > > If your Mother has studied psychology then perhaps Moon should be in > > > the 9th house. That would put Shani in the 7th house of Phd, and as Shani > > > is karaka for the 10th house it would make sense that her studies had the > > > focus of 'vocation' and the psychology of that as Moon aspects. Shakti yoga > > > is good if malefics are there, Mars in her case, as the this shows the power > > > to overcome anger, hatred etc. > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > Michal > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > healing spaces <healingspaces > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa> > > > Friday, January 5, 2007 8:47:14 AM > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna > > > Guru] > > > > > > Hare Rama krsna > > > Dear Michal, > > > Thanks...Does saturn show delay with rajyoga as well? with this D-24 > > > when do u see a possibility of post-grad? > > > My mother is a professor in psychology and has done phd in vocational > > > psychology. No, i don't think she had any problems in bachelors. She started > > > working in very early age by 22 after finishing her masters. She did PhD > > > after her marriage i believe.She got married in May 1974. > > > what would u say about her father from 9th house? he had parkinsons > > > for many yrs and suffered a lot. She also has strong shakti yoga in > > > 7th house involving Ak . So some dischords too. > > > Swati > > > Namah shivaya > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/5/07, Michal Dziwulski < nearmichal <nearmichal >> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > > > Shani in Karka gives rajyoga in the 1st or 10th houses. So, if we > > > > take your 9th house in Siddhamsa and call that the Lagna for one of your > > > > schools then this combination is present. > > > > Can you give details about what your Mother studied? Jupiter, Rahu > > > > and Ketu in Scorpio could give some kind of scientific field like radiology > > > > or chemistry. Mercury and Rahu in the Navamsa Lagna indicates homeopathy. > > > > The lord of the 9th is exalted but retrograde - did she have to work very > > > > hard to complete her bachelor level studies? In the Rasi chart Lagna Lord > > > > is exalted in the 9th with the 5th lord - I can really believe she has a lot > > > > of students! > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > There are many schools that have churches, I went to one myself for some > time. Not every student at the school had Meena in the 4th house of D24 I'm > sure. There must be other factors. > > > > You were born in India but this school that you attended was Catholic - > is this right? If this is the case then the nodes were clearly dominating > there giving you foreign influence in your education, Rahu as one lord of > the 4th house. > > > > Then you say the 2nd school had royal association. Royalty does not just > come from Aries, there are many other factors that can cause this such as > Atmakaraka, association with Surya etc. What > > about Shani in Karka? - this gives a very high rajayoga when placed in > the 1st or 10th house. So maybe somehow it is giving some results here too. > I'm not sure about this, but I'm just trying to look at it from as many > angles as possible. > > > > If Pisces was your 4th house then the lord going to the 12th house could > give primary education abroad. If we take Scorpio Lagna then 12th lord Venus > and Lagnesha Mars are posted in the 7th house of travel, showing that there > is the possibility of travel for the advanced education, since it aspects > the 9th house. > > > > Also, dasa is there to time the event, the event has to be first seen in > the chart. Just becasue dasa had changed from pisces to aries doesn't > necessarily indicate a change. Did you got to a school on a farm just > becasue the dasa changed to Taurus? And then go to a playground because dasa > changed to Gemini? Do you see my point. > > > > I have not done any work on the D60 chart to be > > honest. There is just so much to learn isn't there. > > For your Mother's chart - remember that the nodes break the education > unless there is the strong association of Jupiter. If there is, then > education will continue. If you want you can share your mother's chart and > we can look more. > > > > > > Respectfully, > > Michal > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > healing spaces healingspaces@ ... > > > > > > > > > > > > nearmichal > > Wednesday, January 3, 2007 2:43:35 AM > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Michalji, > > > > > > Hoping to see your valued comments on my last mail about D-24 and D-60 > . > > > > Wishing u a great year ahead > > > > Swati > > > > Namah Shivaya > > > > On 12/31/06, healing spaces < > > > > > > > > > > > > healingspaces@ gmail.com> wrote: > > Hare Rama krsna : : Om Vyom Vyasadevaya namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Michal, My Guru and learned members... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your valued inputs..it helps me learn Please correct me > whenever needed. > > > Yes Scorpio lagna with time 18:00 makes a lot more sense with many more > reasons. But changing a lot in D-60 and getting my venus in MKS there ..and > getting jupiter out of MKS.There is already a spouse curse and venus Ak is > MKS in rashi, 12th in D-9 and now again MKS in D-60. So lot to handle. > > > > > > But some few pointers with sagitarius. > > > > The first lord in 12th with mercury shows possibilities of study abraod > or loosing out on studies.Will > > > pisces in 4th house being a dual sign can also give two schools. My > first school convent Sophia .Pisces indicates a place more peaceful ,ocean > like with church ...But ya this school at one end had a church inside the > campus but had a graveyard at back which we could see. > > > > The second school was a newly founded school with royal associations and > name. so Aries. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Explaining the change in capricorn-pisces to capricorn -aries > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For my bachelors degree i moved towards SW of Jaipur city.Okie now > coming to 9th lord leo in case of sagi, which has no aspects other than > graha dhristi of rahu ketu ..yes may not show much of the background of my > studies and campus of architecture and design. Sun as lord would show some > govt association. this chart also is positive for masters and abroad > education yet no more than masters with rahu and ketu in 2nd house. But with > rahu ketu , also problem in completion of masters. > > > > > > With scorpio: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It has many positives apart from getting venus out of MKS in 7th house > while making Mars MKS. It gets mercury and jupiter in lagna also making me > intelligent and interested in astrology. With cancer as lord of 9th house, > it now gets lot many aspects of mars venus, jupiter mercury with rashi > dhristi and rahu ketu with graha dhristi. > > > > By the way in our education we never had exams or written papers at all.. > All we had was juries and submissions, lot of model making, drafting , > sketching and hard work keeping up late in nights..So what i succeded mostly > was keeping getting my ideas to jury and teachers , while collecting lot of > jealousy among the batchmates. > > Does scorpio give masters and abraod studies? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now a lot changes with D-60 ..the options are again : (Sagi in D-24 > with taurus in D-60 sarpa amsa rising , Venus in 4th ) or (scorpio in D-24 > with pisces in D-60, indu amsa rising, venus in 6th ). > > > > Some pointers...I have had some accidents with head injury and eye > afflictions and teeth issues. little problems and differences in home > enviornment. > > > > > > Rest later after ur valued comments. i have been trying these techniques > with some other charts ...and getting either very good results or not so > good . Especially my mothers chart has rahu ketu jupiter in 9th in D-24 but > she has done PHD and is a professor. Would i rectify her chart too? > > > > Swati > > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Shreem mahalakshmai namah : : Namah Shivaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wish u all a great yr ahead and ur family...and may light shine in all > of us. Bless me with more aparvidya:) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/31/06, Michal Dziwulski nearmichal > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > If we make Scorpio the Lagna for your D24 chart then Aquarius will be > the 4th house. There are two lords, so you attended two schools. Rahu will > indicate the school with more of a foreign influence - like a different > religion, or different social values etc. > > > > > > If Sagitarius is the Lagna then the Sun would be the 9th lord, and, I > could be wrong, but I don't see how the Sun in Virgo would indicate > Architecture and Design. Then also the Nodes would be aspecting the 9th > house by Rasi drsti and putting an end to any further education. And how > would we explain the top marks you get? > > > > > > We always use mean nodes for natal horoscopes. > > > > Respectfully, > > Michal > > > > [ Om Namo > > Narayanaya ] > > > > > > healing spaces <healingspaces@ > > gmail.com> > > To: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > ; nearmichal > > Sunday, December 31, 2006 8:41:47 AM > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna, > > Dear Michal , > > > > Sorry that was a mistype where i missed the word. i have not finished > higher education. > > i did my schooling from two schools in same town. Shifted from convent > school to more a royal school in 1993. this was i think during narayana > dasha shift of cap-pisces to cap-taurus. After my 12th standard, i joined > this design and architecture 5 yr course away from my home town. > > > > > > So do u see scorpio as my lagna, that would bring my time to 18:00. i > have tried this rectification before. Wil saturn in 9th suffice for the > delay that i have faced. > > > > > > Sorry i am confused do we use true nodes option or mean nodes and > explanation for same.i think i tinkered the default settings. > > > > Thanks > > Swati > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om gurave namah > > > > > > > > > > On 12/31/06, Michal Dziwulski > > nearmichal > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > Having a further look I realised I had missed an important factor. In > the D24 Narayana dasa of Gemini the 9th lord is strongly aspecting the dasa > rasi. This is certainly a positive indication for the completion of your > degree. Sorry for the confusion. > > > > > > Respectfully, > > Michal > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > Michal Dziwulski nearmichal > > > To: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > Sunday, December 31, 2006 7:57:48 AM > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: > > [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > When you say you finished your higher education, what did you study > before? Currently you are doing architecture and design, but did you study > anything before this? > > > > > > If we were to move the D24 Lagna to Scorpio then this is how I would see > it - Jupiter and Mercury with Dig Bala in the first house giving an > excellent student - remember Lagna in any divisional chart is you. 9th house > has retrograde Shani showing delays in the completion of these studies. 9th > Lord going to 2nd house showing that these studies will have to lead to post > graduate pursuits. Architecture requires a lot of understanding of > engineering and is very logical, whereas design is more artistic - and here > we > > would have the combination of Mars (Lagnesha) and Venus aspecting the > 9th house. That duo in the Lagna also aspects the 9th house which would > explain all those high marks. > > > > If we take Narayana Dasa of D24 chart you will see that Taurus dasa has > been running from 1995 to the present and is nearly over. Taurus houses the > combination of Mars and Venus that aspects your 9th house. What do you think > about Gemini dasa coming up next? It is the 8th house, and its lord is > conjoined the 5th lord in Lagna. The 5th house is concerned with > spirituality, and the 4th from there (8th house) is the learning of the > same. So maybe you might be taking a break from your studies to pursue > something more spiritual. No doubt you will be thinking a lot about > post-grad, since Jupiter is lord of the 2nd, but you can't go on to that > until you complete 9th house first. > > > > > > Respectfully, > > Michal > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > healing spaces <healingspaces@ gmail.com> > > sohamsa@ .com > > Saturday, December 30, 2006 2:09:19 PM > > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama krsna > > Dear Michal, > > > > > > Its always great to gather inputs from all on a great forum like this > ... And i must congratulate YOU that u caught a great nerve that is > troubling me in my life. I have finished my higher education. Further i > joined a > > five yr BACHELORS course in architecture and design. My first 9 > semesters had me being topping in all subjects, which created lots of > jealousy around me.. Moreover i was having a lot of family troubles at the > background,which still continue. My tenth semster which includes writing a > thesis , has gone for a long stretch after this and yes i have still not > completed it. it still has to go through last stages of submission and viva, > as i can never leave a > > hope.I have not failed yet but it has delayed for more than 4 yrs. The > delay has occured due to my perfectionist attitude, my lost ability to > overcome situations, lost relationships and the overarching family issues.. > In mean time yes i have started freelancing and sustaining myself > financially, yet i would not say i am settled in career. > > > > Sharing all this information, for study purposes. U could comment of > birth rectification. I have gone over trying to rectify but never succeded. > > > > > > Would love to know when will i finish and get my degree in hand? Are > there any remedies particularly for > > same.Still a HOPE to pursue post-grad. Any HOPE? or possibility of > working abroad? > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swati > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/30/06, Michal Dziwulski < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nearmichal > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > Hope you don't mind my input. In your D24 chart Rahu and Ketu occupy the > 2nd house which is seen for post graduate study ie. Masters, Honours. This > can be overcome if a strong Jupiter associates, as he will want you to > continue learning. Has your chart been rectified? Also 9th lord Sun going to > the 10th house would indicate an end to bachelor level education and > entering into work. Rahu and Ketu are the only other planets aspecting the > 9th house. Did you complete your higher education? If you did then maybe the > Lagna has to be shifted. Please share your experience for the purpose of > learning. > > > > > > Respectfully, > > Michal > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > healing spaces healingspaces@ ... > > To: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > Friday, December 29, 2006 1:01:08 PM > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krsna > > > > Pranam Sweeji, > > > > > > No > > i am not married yet ...Altough i have had a past relationship. And am > > not planning to get married yet .. Want to go abraod and pursue > post-grad and > > research in design and architecture. Don't know if this is possible. > > > > > > u > > mentioned badhakesh period till 2012 . i think later to that even i > > will be running badhaksthan pisces chara dasha till 2020. When do u > > forsee marriage ? > > > > 'Demented quite, I must have been if I did not suggest Pearl as an > upaya. Tis not for you to adorn.' > > Did u mean this is MUST for me.. ?What about emerald ? > > > > > > Swati > > > > > > Om gurave namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/29/06, > > Swee Chan sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > Demented quite, I must have been if I did not suggest Pearl as an upaya.. > Tis not for you to adorn. Badhakesh period extends to 2012 > > > > Challenges in area of spousal affairs. Are you married yet? If so, > wouldn't you wish upon a star that he'd be a cutting edge more spiritual? > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/28/06 10:11 PM, "healing spaces" <healingspaces@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > Pranam Sweeji, and members > > > > > > > > Here are the birth details > > > > Date 15th april 1979 > > > > time 18: 05 > > > > place jaipur city , rajasthan 75 E 49 26 N 55 > > > > Definitely shall figure out on my own about which audio it was ..:)Shall > look forward for the worthy discussions. on pointers like kevala mahyogada, > vaiseshikamsa and other discourses. > > > > gemstones and physical holdings always carry a fancy ...and more > positive feeling of holding. > > > > > > > > Wishes > > > > Swati > > > > Namah Shivya : Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/28/06, Swee Chan sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > Can you give your deets again? Sorry, can't seem to find the time > (without disturbance) to listen to the mp3's including the ones I've bought > :| > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/28/06 12:19 PM, "healing spaces" <healingspaces@ gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://gmail. com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama krsna > > > > Dear Sweeji, > > > > Are u talking about Narshimaji books that contains information on yogada > and vaiseshika. I still have to pick up that book. Do u know which audio > contains the details. > > > > In my chart mars and mercury form kevala mahayogada, would they turn > beneficiary for me ..or still remain dhrita badhak and problem creators. > > > > In vaiseshikamsa i have sun with high strength and exalted in many > divisional charts ...but is functional malefic for my chart and also in > gandhta. > > > > u had prescribed me pearl seeing the rising ascendant hasta nakshatra > and also acc to dwisaptati dasha. while for emerald u see sometimes the best > remedies is to initiate the debilated planet... > > > > Now Anuj ji with suggests citrine with his conclusions. Vistiji > recommends no stones.. > > > > It wil be good if i compile it all together for study purpose..... and > we could reach some lasting conclusions. .Wishing my Guru is around..and > would enrich this discussion.. > > > > Lastly i am seeign this as more a learning process.. as i really dont > see myself making any investments in near future, until it costs me > less.Just for curosity sake.. Bharat ji what do the yantras cost ? > > > > > > > > Swati > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/28/06, swami swami_rcs > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > II Om Gurave Namah II > > > > Hari om , Friend, > > > > Dear Sarvashree swee and Anuj, > > > > Thanks to both of you.In light of hint from Swee and analysis > > > > of Swati chart, based on concept by Anuj ,if combined: I understand > > > > we can check prescription of Gems in critical cases. In fact Swati > > > > chart and her wearing of Gems case is interesting for , it breeds ground > > > > > for correct application of this small segment of Vedic knowledge. > > > > By the way concept of Yogi and Avayogi may be a part of Achyut > > > > parampara, since during Panchang lecture Pt Sanjay has asked his > > > > students to work out Yoga point and other details , that he promised to > > > > discuss next time. > > > > Concept of Yoga avyoga is well adopted in west and Late sh.H.R Shanker > > > > has also written about it in Astrological Magazine .Jyotish tool , > > > > Digital jyotish,Astroloka etc are good software and DJ is excellent to > give > > > > a fair trial to Teachings of Sh.H.R.S.Iyer' s work. > > > > I feel in spite of differences we should continue to share knowledge. > > > > Lastly i thank both of you and Visti and of course Swati who has > permitted > > > > discussion on her chart on open forum. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarve Bhavantu Sukhinah > > > > Sarve Santu Niramaya > > > > Sarve Bhadrani Pasyantu > > > > Ma Kashchid Dukh Bhaag Bhaveit > > > > HARI OM TATSAT > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- > > > > R.C.Srivastava > > > > For Consultation -Service > > > > E-mail : swami_rcs > > > > > > > > 199,MMIG "Guru Kripa" > > > > Shaheed Nagar. 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Guest guest Posted January 10, 2007 Report Share Posted January 10, 2007 hraum namah adityaya Dear Swati, Namaskar! Please find my comments below. Hopefully red is agni..forget me wednesday! Regards Rafal Gendarz - healing spaces ; sohamsa ; nearmichal ; paramaguru Wednesday, January 10, 2007 7:06 AM Re: Siddhamsa [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Hare Rama Krsna : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah Dear Michal, Gurus and members Sanjayji's lectures on Siddhamsa are wonderful and i wil like to thank him for he wonderful resources provided by him for learning. i remember my first discussion with my guru was also in d-24. I am learning so much through this discussion Michal ji . Even trying to apply it on the charts of my known ones and friends from campus. Altough here are some basic Some doubts on D-24, Please help me through them. 1. What will the significant things that come in play when 1st house placements are rahu ketu. [rafal] As Nodes afflicts Akasha Tattwa it usually gives bad education or lack of inspiration to learn. It should be confirmed with Jupiter position.. Jupiter in D9 shows how one learns through God help, D24 how one learns in area or for para-/apara siddhi. Nodes shows also ending point of education and this should be studied with 4L - goal which one would like to reach in educational spheres of life. Lagna is Brahma-sthana where one is awaken to create new possibilites therefore kendra to Lagna in Padakrama Dasa (southern name) shows new beginings to You while Kendra to Surya shows new begining to outside resources..Lagna in every Varga shows fame and attitude related to that area therefore Sani in D20-Ascendent give sadness in spiritual matters. Rahu will give too much thinking while Ketu overconfidence. 2. How would one proceed when rahu ketu are in 4th house. does it mean problems or end at formal education. how would it differ from rahu ketu rashi dhristi aspect to the 4th house. How would it differ from graha drishti aspect. And in what conditions does it allow forward movement in education [rafal] Forth bhava is Ganesha sthana where education begins. Therefore kids in Gurukula's pray to Ganapati. It has to do with Prhtvi Tattwa and Muladhara chakra. Forth bhava is karyabhava here and malefics there are very bad. Person can have good attitude (Lagna0 but events / situation can make Him sad and discouraged (argala). If malefics are in forth, lordship of that sthana will show cause (Surya (karaka of dispositor) - creator) and independently forth lord shows objective while Lagnesh shows what motivate You to start.. Do You catch the difference? 3. 5th house or 10th house are marak houses to formal education and bachelors education. What will rahu ketu placements do in marak houses placements. [rafal] Fifth is root of paravidya science and it fruits(11) are seen by hearing properly guru upadesa and initating good and peaceful (not himsa - benefic in third and without obstacles - aspects 9H) methods to get things done. Fifth in D24 also shows hobbies and for example I have nodes there which shows dabbling with Jyotish. Mangal and Ketu (papargal on enemy of karaka of 4h) in 5H shows mind filled with too much extravertism which put the person out of home and study and get into gangs and that kind of things. Tenth house shows how You teach (see Devata) planets there shows what sustains/breaks college-step so give proper Upadesa to Your clients based on that. 4 What kind of studies can be actually shown by rahu, ketu: Can they play any role? in todays age when we do most of our learning through internet, computers? Also rahu ketu are known as planets for radical or futuristic inventions. Consider some body studying interactive embedded technology, nanotechnology. What planets wil play role? [rafal] Lot depends on signs. Prthvi are more connected to money while watery to intelectual jobs (they can also give passions in rasi). Rahu can indicate politics or philosophy also. In my chart I have 9H scorpio with two lords - one is Mangal with Sani (engineering with construtction that was my first study which I broke) and Ketu is with Rahu in Cancer in fifth bhava - my 2nd college is philosophy. Rahu shows independent (3H) eagerness and stance to get things without help of Guru so beware of students which has Ra/Sa in 1/5 from Lagna in D1 without AK in kona(s). 6. do we at any time consider graha aspects in these charts. [rafal] Yes, every tool should be used if its a) relevant and b) properly applied. 7. how would narayana dasha dictate and can change ur course of study. Imagine a person doing bachelors degree, and the person is running narayan dasha of the 7th house which denotes the ending to education in certain way . [rafal] Start D24 Narayana dasa from 4L(D1) for apara vidya siddhi's 8. Shall post another mail for the questions u asked Michal on my D-24 Scorpio and Sagitarrius. Thanks in advance. Swati Om gurave namah On 1/10/07, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote: [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Swati, I think I have the lectures you are talking about. Sorry, there seems to have been some confusion. Your 4th house is Aquarius - so... has two lords. These two represent your two schools in Jaipur.. You mentioned one had some royal affiliation - so I pointed out Saturn in Cancer, as it is a combination for royalty. Two major points that you still have not been able to answer regarding Sagitarius Lagna are: 1. Why did you not go overseas for your primary level education as Jupiter is 4th Lord in the 12th. 2. Why do Rahu and Ketu in the 2nd house not end the education. 9th lord in 10th can give problems, but what kind of problems? Usually related to work, ending the education and joining the workforce career - 10th house. Or if the 7th house is involved, getting married, or if the 12th house is involved going travelling etc. Sun is photography. But architecture is more Mars don't you think? Design is definately Venus. Moon is more caring, nuturing, healing. What about Moon in badhaksthana from Gemini dasa causing travel? Respectfully, Michal [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] designhologram <healingspaces > Wednesday, January 10, 2007 12:12:03 PM Siddhamsa [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Hare Rama Krsna , dear Michal, Gurus and members Found some more siddhamsa lectures by Sanjay Rathiji, don't know from where i picked them, but are not from atri it seems. they are saved from august on my computer. If u need them i can pass those too. The discussion on his chart is very interesting . And there are some more points than the Atri Audio:) I have put some doubts on ur comments and recent addition to my listening the new audios. Yes scorpio seems to be more positive also at the level of phd. and directly takes my attention, but delay and problems in 9th house has made me more skeptical. my notes in blue The same school can have many different meanings for all people. Someone that was badly bullied there will have different combinations to signify their schooling experience. First see the planets in the 9th house, then the Lord, and then the aspects. In this order we can see the higher education. Don´t you think its interesting that your school, represented by the 4th lord Saturn, transformed into a University, as it is placed in the 9th house? No its not my school that turned into college or university. my two schools were in jaipur, one being convent girls school , and other being a co-ed royal school. infact college is in different city all together. i moved from jaipur to ahmedabad , towards slight south west. the college that i was studyingis very focused to designwith no other faculties turned into deemed university in later years. Also its important to know that the bachelors i was going through is five yrs, where first 6 semesters are in college, the next semester of six months is job, the next thee semesters are in college. Then we have a thesis (which is almost like a phd thesis at times, and people)it is this thesis which i delayed in. sometimes i feel i am doing phd and gemini Also probably my convocation to this degree wil happen in gemini dasha. Sagitarius Some new views i heard in these new audios was , that the 4th lord placemnt shows the seed and final desire to education and 7th lord shows the end to formal education till phd level. In this case 4th lord with 7th lord in 12th house can be positive sign for abroad possibilities. Also he mentions that if 9th lord in 10th can create problem in finishing the bachelors.. cant the moon aspect from lagna to sun indicate architecture, design, photography. i am just considering if we my time was any way right as 18:05, than what do i do remedy it. And give me post-grad. 4 yrs delay , and my in between working can attribute to its break. Hope this is not the case, but are there any positive ends to it? Also i know in soem way family has also been reason for certain delay. Scorpio Delay is Saturn. Always mean nodes. So my spiritual education , since it is lord of 3rd house is distracting my delay:) Look at it this way. Does the lord of any house going to another house have any significance? It must. What about the Arudhapada of the 2nd falling in the 12th house? Moon can indicate the public and social things, so it can be something like the design of a town, or buildings that have to do with the public like halls, meeting places etc. Hope i do this, and work around same direction:) i wil be so glad. any remedies that i can pursue for the coming dasha, and timing of when i wil go. Respectfully, Swati [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Swati, I never said that Saturn would give rajayoga to you. All I said was that if we were to take Saturn in Cancer as Lagna for one of your schools, then the school would have the charachteristics of some rajyoga ie. be prestigious, royal etc. If Sagitarius was the Lagna then how would you explain design? Lord of the ninth is Sun in Virgo and the 9th is aspected by the nodes. Let us first try to be straight - 9th house is for bachelor level education. Sagitarius Why would the 1st lord going to the 12th give overseas education for masters and not for primary education? Jupiter is also the 4th lord - so don't you think that your first schooling experience (4th house) would have been abroad? Scorpio Instead, look at it this way, 2nd lord of Masters education (Jupiter) is in the 12th from there - so your post-graduate studies will be overseas.. Moon is in badhaksthana from Gemini and in the 7th house which also deals with travel - so you have two conspiring to take you abroad in this dasa. So is Sanjay's recent Siddhamsa lecture in English? Looking forward to more of your thoughts. Please have a good look at Scorpio Lagna for the reasons I have given and tell me what you think. Respectfully, Michal [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] healing spaces <healingspaces > sohamsa@ .com Saturday, January 6, 2007 9:06:12 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Hare Rama krsna Dear Michal ... Thanks for ur continous posts and interest.. I am learning a lot:) With scorpio 18:00 ..my badhakesh becomes 9th lord moon , while lord of 3rd and 4th saturn placed in 9th gets placed in 9th house badhakstha, so dont know if its rajyoga. For two yrs , saturn has been transitting cancer, and i faced most of my delays in last two yrs, altough i think now with saturn retro transit, will result in submission and finishing of my viva. how will the end be seen for 9th house? it should end is taursu-Aquarius( which antar) dasha itself i am not so good in narayana dasha yet... cant make out what gemini dasha wil bring and also aspect of moon ..moos is also badhakesh.. Also if i pursue post-masters its going to be abraod so i need combination for both:) also what would be the post masters in.. there are no aspects to 2nd house now, so moon is going to decide the specialization course in design? help me to see gemini narayan dasha also. i see more chances of abroad in sagitarius lagna 18:05 . as the 1st lord is in 12th and badhaksthana gemini may start operating now and badhakesh is also in is also in 12th house. however moon has to come into play as it aspects gemini... Also with rahu ketu in 2nd and many aspects it can show many influences on masters degree:) i think i am confused now for my D-24 enough:) For mother ..yes possible we need to go backward for her time too...altough at bachelors level she did sanskrit, and some other subjects also..Specializatio n comes when she does masters..and moon has aspect to 2nd house. venus in 6th debilated ..i dont know... also what about her further pursuits after Ph D, writing books papers...mars in 3rd house..karaka bhava nashao..her younger bro is not there...7th house is afflicted though... Guru Sanjayjis lectures are in English mostly...so u can listen to them... Also sanjayji told the houses 5th , 10th , 3rd, 8th and 1st are for spiritual pursuits and informal learning and finally self-realization. wishes swati Namah Shivaya On 1/5/07, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote: [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Swati, Yes, Saturn is the significator for delay. I have asked you before - what do you think about Gemini dasa approaching? 9th Lord Moon is aspecting this sign from the 2nd house of post-graduate studies. If your Mother has studied psychology then perhaps Moon should be in the 9th house. That would put Shani in the 7th house of Phd, and as Shani is karaka for the 10th house it would make sense that her studies had the focus of 'vocation' and the psychology of that as Moon aspects. Shakti yoga is good if malefics are there, Mars in her case, as the this shows the power to overcome anger, hatred etc. Respectfully, Michal [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] healing spaces <healingspaces > sohamsa@ .com Friday, January 5, 2007 8:47:14 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Hare Rama krsna Dear Michal, Thanks...Does saturn show delay with rajyoga as well? with this D-24 when do u see a possibility of post-grad? My mother is a professor in psychology and has done phd in vocational psychology. No, i don't think she had any problems in bachelors. She started working in very early age by 22 after finishing her masters. She did PhD after her marriage i believe.She got married in May 1974. what would u say about her father from 9th house? he had parkinsons for many yrs and suffered a lot. She also has strong shakti yoga in 7th house involving Ak . So some dischords too. Swati Namah shivaya On 1/5/07, Michal Dziwulski < nearmichal > wrote: [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Swati, Shani in Karka gives rajyoga in the 1st or 10th houses. So, if we take your 9th house in Siddhamsa and call that the Lagna for one of your schools then this combination is present. Can you give details about what your Mother studied? Jupiter, Rahu and Ketu in Scorpio could give some kind of scientific field like radiology or chemistry. Mercury and Rahu in the Navamsa Lagna indicates homeopathy. The lord of the 9th is exalted but retrograde - did she have to work very hard to complete her bachelor level studies? In the Rasi chart Lagna Lord is exalted in the 9th with the 5th lord - I can really believe she has a lot of students! Respectfully, > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Swati, > > There are many schools that have churches, I went to one myself for some time. Not every student at the school had Meena in the 4th house of D24 I'm sure. There must be other factors. > > You were born in India but this school that you attended was Catholic - is this right? If this is the case then the nodes were clearly dominating there giving you foreign influence in your education, Rahu as one lord of the 4th house. > > Then you say the 2nd school had royal association. Royalty does not just come from Aries, there are many other factors that can cause this such as Atmakaraka, association with Surya etc. What > about Shani in Karka? - this gives a very high rajayoga when placed in the 1st or 10th house. So maybe somehow it is giving some results here too. I'm not sure about this, but I'm just trying to look at it from as many angles as possible. > > If Pisces was your 4th house then the lord going to the 12th house could give primary education abroad. If we take Scorpio Lagna then 12th lord Venus and Lagnesha Mars are posted in the 7th house of travel, showing that there is the possibility of travel for the advanced education, since it aspects the 9th house. > > Also, dasa is there to time the event, the event has to be first seen in the chart. Just becasue dasa had changed from pisces to aries doesn't necessarily indicate a change. Did you got to a school on a farm just becasue the dasa changed to Taurus? And then go to a playground because dasa changed to Gemini? Do you see my point. > > I have not done any work on the D60 chart to be > honest. There is just so much to learn isn't there. > For your Mother's chart - remember that the nodes break the education unless there is the strong association of Jupiter. If there is, then education will continue. If you want you can share your mother's chart and we can look more. > > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > healing spaces healingspaces@ ... > > > > > > nearmichal > Wednesday, January 3, 2007 2:43:35 AM > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > Dear Michalji, > > > Hoping to see your valued comments on my last mail about D-24 and D-60 . > > Wishing u a great year ahead > > Swati > > Namah Shivaya > > On 12/31/06, healing spaces < > > > > > > healingspaces@ gmail.com> wrote: > Hare Rama krsna : : Om Vyom Vyasadevaya namah > > > > > > > > > Dear Michal, My Guru and learned members... > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your valued inputs..it helps me learn Please correct me whenever needed. > Yes Scorpio lagna with time 18:00 makes a lot more sense with many more reasons. But changing a lot in D-60 and getting my venus in MKS there ..and getting jupiter out of MKS.There is already a spouse curse and venus Ak is MKS in rashi, 12th in D-9 and now again MKS in D-60. So lot to handle. > > > But some few pointers with sagitarius. > > The first lord in 12th with mercury shows possibilities of study abraod or loosing out on studies.Will > pisces in 4th house being a dual sign can also give two schools. My first school convent Sophia .Pisces indicates a place more peaceful ,ocean like with church ...But ya this school at one end had a church inside the campus but had a graveyard at back which we could see. > > The second school was a newly founded school with royal associations and name. so Aries. > > > > > > > > > Explaining the change in capricorn-pisces to capricorn -aries > > > > > > > > > > For my bachelors degree i moved towards SW of Jaipur city.Okie now coming to 9th lord leo in case of sagi, which has no aspects other than graha dhristi of rahu ketu ..yes may not show much of the background of my studies and campus of architecture and design. Sun as lord would show some govt association. this chart also is positive for masters and abroad education yet no more than masters with rahu and ketu in 2nd house. But with rahu ketu , also problem in completion of masters. > > > With scorpio: > > > > > > > > > It has many positives apart from getting venus out of MKS in 7th house while making Mars MKS. It gets mercury and jupiter in lagna also making me intelligent and interested in astrology. With cancer as lord of 9th house, it now gets lot many aspects of mars venus, jupiter mercury with rashi dhristi and rahu ketu with graha dhristi. > > By the way in our education we never had exams or written papers at all. All we had was juries and submissions, lot of model making, drafting , sketching and hard work keeping up late in nights..So what i succeded mostly was keeping getting my ideas to jury and teachers , while collecting lot of jealousy among the batchmates. > Does scorpio give masters and abraod studies? > > > > > > > > > > Now a lot changes with D-60 ..the options are again : (Sagi in D-24 with taurus in D-60 sarpa amsa rising , Venus in 4th ) or (scorpio in D-24 with pisces in D-60, indu amsa rising, venus in 6th ). > > Some pointers...I have had some accidents with head injury and eye afflictions and teeth issues. little problems and differences in home enviornment. > > > Rest later after ur valued comments. i have been trying these techniques with some other charts ...and getting either very good results or not so good . Especially my mothers chart has rahu ketu jupiter in 9th in D-24 but she has done PHD and is a professor. Would i rectify her chart too? > > Swati > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Shreem mahalakshmai namah : : Namah Shivaya > > > > > > > > > Wish u all a great yr ahead and ur family...and may light shine in all of us. Bless me with more aparvidya:) > > > > > > > > > > On 12/31/06, Michal Dziwulski nearmichal > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Swati, > > > If we make Scorpio the Lagna for your D24 chart then Aquarius will be the 4th house. There are two lords, so you attended two schools. Rahu will indicate the school with more of a foreign influence - like a different religion, or different social values etc. > > > If Sagitarius is the Lagna then the Sun would be the 9th lord, and, I could be wrong, but I don't see how the Sun in Virgo would indicate Architecture and Design. Then also the Nodes would be aspecting the 9th house by Rasi drsti and putting an end to any further education. And how would we explain the top marks you get? > > > We always use mean nodes for natal horoscopes. > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo > Narayanaya ] > > > healing spaces <healingspaces@ > gmail.com> > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > ; nearmichal > Sunday, December 31, 2006 8:41:47 AM > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > Hare Rama Krsna, > Dear Michal , > > Sorry that was a mistype where i missed the word. i have not finished higher education. > i did my schooling from two schools in same town. Shifted from convent school to more a royal school in 1993. this was i think during narayana dasha shift of cap-pisces to cap-taurus. After my 12th standard, i joined this design and architecture 5 yr course away from my home town. > > > So do u see scorpio as my lagna, that would bring my time to 18:00. i have tried this rectification before. Wil saturn in 9th suffice for the delay that i have faced. > > > Sorry i am confused do we use true nodes option or mean nodes and explanation for same.i think i tinkered the default settings. > > Thanks > Swati > > > > > > > > > > Om gurave namah > > > > > On 12/31/06, Michal Dziwulski > nearmichal > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Swati, > > > Having a further look I realised I had missed an important factor. In the D24 Narayana dasa of Gemini the 9th lord is strongly aspecting the dasa rasi. This is certainly a positive indication for the completion of your degree. Sorry for the confusion. > > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > Michal Dziwulski nearmichal > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > Sunday, December 31, 2006 7:57:48 AM > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: > [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Swati, > > When you say you finished your higher education, what did you study before? Currently you are doing architecture and design, but did you study anything before this? > > > If we were to move the D24 Lagna to Scorpio then this is how I would see it - Jupiter and Mercury with Dig Bala in the first house giving an excellent student - remember Lagna in any divisional chart is you. 9th house has retrograde Shani showing delays in the completion of these studies. 9th Lord going to 2nd house showing that these studies will have to lead to post graduate pursuits. Architecture requires a lot of understanding of engineering and is very logical, whereas design is more artistic - and here we > would have the combination of Mars (Lagnesha) and Venus aspecting the 9th house. That duo in the Lagna also aspects the 9th house which would explain all those high marks. > > If we take Narayana Dasa of D24 chart you will see that Taurus dasa has been running from 1995 to the present and is nearly over. Taurus houses the combination of Mars and Venus that aspects your 9th house. What do you think about Gemini dasa coming up next? It is the 8th house, and its lord is conjoined the 5th lord in Lagna. The 5th house is concerned with spirituality, and the 4th from there (8th house) is the learning of the same. So maybe you might be taking a break from your studies to pursue something more spiritual. No doubt you will be thinking a lot about post-grad, since Jupiter is lord of the 2nd, but you can't go on to that until you complete 9th house first. > > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > healing spaces <healingspaces@ gmail.com> > sohamsa@ .com > Saturday, December 30, 2006 2:09:19 PM > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama krsna > Dear Michal, > > > Its always great to gather inputs from all on a great forum like this ... And i must congratulate YOU that u caught a great nerve that is troubling me in my life. I have finished my higher education. Further i joined a > five yr BACHELORS course in architecture and design. My first 9 semesters had me being topping in all subjects, which created lots of jealousy around me.. Moreover i was having a lot of family troubles at the background,which still continue. My tenth semster which includes writing a thesis , has gone for a long stretch after this and yes i have still not completed it.. it still has to go through last stages of submission and viva, as i can never leave a > hope.I have not failed yet but it has delayed for more than 4 yrs. The delay has occured due to my perfectionist attitude, my lost ability to overcome situations, lost relationships and the overarching family issues. In mean time yes i have started freelancing and sustaining myself financially, yet i would not say i am settled in career. > > Sharing all this information, for study purposes. U could comment of birth rectification. I have gone over trying to rectify but never succeded. > > > Would love to know when will i finish and get my degree in hand? Are there any remedies particularly for > same.Still a HOPE to pursue post-grad. Any HOPE? or possibility of working abroad? > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > Swati > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/30/06, Michal Dziwulski < > > > > > > > > > nearmichal > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Swati, > > Hope you don't mind my input. In your D24 chart Rahu and Ketu occupy the 2nd house which is seen for post graduate study ie. Masters, Honours. This can be overcome if a strong Jupiter associates, as he will want you to continue learning. Has your chart been rectified? Also 9th lord Sun going to the 10th house would indicate an end to bachelor level education and entering into work. Rahu and Ketu are the only other planets aspecting the 9th house. Did you complete your higher education? If you did then maybe the Lagna has to be shifted. Please share your experience for the purpose of learning. > > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > healing spaces healingspaces@ ... > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > Friday, December 29, 2006 1:01:08 PM > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krsna > > Pranam Sweeji, > > > No > i am not married yet ...Altough i have had a past relationship. And am > not planning to get married yet .. Want to go abraod and pursue post-grad and > research in design and architecture. Don't know if this is possible. > > > u > mentioned badhakesh period till 2012 . i think later to that even i > will be running badhaksthan pisces chara dasha till 2020. When do u > forsee marriage ? > > 'Demented quite, I must have been if I did not suggest Pearl as an upaya. Tis not for you to adorn.' > Did u mean this is MUST for me.. ?What about emerald ? > > > Swati > > > Om gurave namah > > > > > > > On 12/29/06, > Swee Chan sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Swati, > > Namaste > > > > Demented quite, I must have been if I did not suggest Pearl as an upaya. Tis not for you to adorn. Badhakesh period extends to 2012 > > Challenges in area of spousal affairs. Are you married yet? If so, wouldn't you wish upon a star that he'd be a cutting edge more spiritual? > > > > Love, > > > > Swee > > > > > > On 12/28/06 10:11 PM, "healing spaces" <healingspaces@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > Pranam Sweeji, and members > > > > Here are the birth details > > Date 15th april 1979 > > time 18: 05 > > place jaipur city , rajasthan 75 E 49 26 N 55 > > Definitely shall figure out on my own about which audio it was ..:)Shall look forward for the worthy discussions. on pointers like kevala mahyogada, vaiseshikamsa and other discourses. > > gemstones and physical holdings always carry a fancy ...and more positive feeling of holding. > > > > Wishes > > Swati > > Namah Shivya : Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > On 12/28/06, Swee Chan sweechan@mac . com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Swati, > > Namaste > > > > Can you give your deets again? Sorry, can't seem to find the time (without disturbance) to listen to the mp3's including the ones I've bought :| > > > > Love, > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > On 12/28/06 12:19 PM, "healing spaces" <healingspaces@ gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://gmail. com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama krsna > > Dear Sweeji, > > Are u talking about Narshimaji books that contains information on yogada and vaiseshika. I still have to pick up that book. Do u know which audio contains the details. > > In my chart mars and mercury form kevala mahayogada, would they turn beneficiary for me ..or still remain dhrita badhak and problem creators. > > In vaiseshikamsa i have sun with high strength and exalted in many divisional charts ...but is functional malefic for my chart and also in gandhta. > > u had prescribed me pearl seeing the rising ascendant hasta nakshatra and also acc to dwisaptati dasha. while for emerald u see sometimes the best remedies is to initiate the debilated planet... > > Now Anuj ji with suggests citrine with his conclusions. Vistiji recommends no stones.. > > It wil be good if i compile it all together for study purpose..... and we could reach some lasting conclusions. .Wishing my Guru is around..and would enrich this discussion.. > > Lastly i am seeign this as more a learning process.. as i really dont see myself making any investments in near future, until it costs me less.Just for curosity sake.. Bharat ji what do the yantras cost ? > > > > Swati > > > > > > > > On 12/28/06, swami swami_rcs > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > II Om Gurave Namah II > > Hari om , Friend, > > Dear Sarvashree swee and Anuj, > > Thanks to both of you.In light of hint from Swee and analysis > > of Swati chart, based on concept by Anuj ,if combined: I understand > > we can check prescription of Gems in critical cases. 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Guest guest Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 Dear Michalji, Rafalji, and other learned memebers thanks Rafalji for delving with my questions...And michalji for getting into minute details to see the d-24. here are the answers to what u asked. Please correct me where i went wrong and also i have written some questions . Here are some more doubts..and a brief analysis of my D-24 chart 15th april 1979 , place jaipur city ( 75 E 49 , 26 N 55) Option 1. Sagitarius as lagna in D-24 (Recorded time 18:05) Moon in 1st house, with lot of attention to education. Also my mothers attention in my education as she herself is in education field. 1st lord and 4th lord Jupiter in 12th with 7th and 10th lord. A desire, motivation objective, to go till Ph D level in a abroad place altough with . fourth lord in 12th necessarliy may not mean formal school education studies abraod, but the objective as being the karyesh lord. Also 4th lord , dont know if i can see mother from this, but Jupiter as lord shows her excelence as professor. jupiter mercury have planetary aspects by venus and mars, rings a bell of influence of Ak and design, art architecture, adding to my intellectual base. i was running taurus dasha when i started my design course. Also rashi aspect of rahu ketu, saturn to the 1st and 4th lord, showing delays and struggles throughout. Now coming to formal education. 4th lord is dual sign so can indicate a change altough its placed in fixed rashi , so doesnt bring a shift in place. the first school was convent, foreign influence and all girls school joined in virgo narayan dasha. the second school was a school with little royal association s and a co-ed. the change happened when i was in capricorn -pisces dasha .Pisces is my 4th house here so a time to alter. this happened in 1993 Taurus Dasha, starts in 1995. have placement of venus and mars, took science as subjects, but was very sure that i want to do architecture and design , so unlike other students in my class, was not very interested in IIT. taurus -scorpio dasha i joined my 5yrs course in interior architecture in ahmedabad. Change of place to south west. Here come the question ? Can the 9th lord sun in 10th house with rashi aspect of moon, be sufficeint to give me education in design architecture, interiors, furniture. Well to an extant sun and moon are the two sides of coin, of the abstract and the concrete, and i always work with these layers, when i design . The running taurus dasha with venus and mars there could be a strong infulence to add the visual beauty to it. Rahu ketu aspect the 9th house with rashi dhriti so somm foriegn influences strongly, knowing that we .saturn aspects the 10th house which is the sustainer and the marak house to my bachelors degree. saturn is also transiting cancer since two yrs, and has given me delay. 9th lord in 10th Sun could also mean i got involved in doing jobs, or there were felt obstructions from family as sun and moon are strongly influencing the 10th house. So there are invariably enough indications of problems at the bachelors level. How does one see this when will this end? What is the role of saturn® and sun here in delay and sustainence? in my rashi chart the saturn is in leo, while here it is in cancer? Now if i finish and get a degree are there chances of post grad? Will education end at bachelors due to rahu ketu aspect to 9th? 2 house has rahu, ketu, so strong influence of foreign .2nd lord capricorn is aspected by saturn graha dhristi. in terms of rashi dhristi there are aspects of jupiter, merc, mars, venus. So the house is strong. i wil be going into gemini dasha soon, which is aspected by sun and moon placed in kendra. Gemini is also badhaksthana. Option 2. Scorpio as lagna in D24 (18:00) Jupiter and mercury in 1st house , good intelligence with digbal. Mars as lagna lord with venus in 7th house, motivation again coloured by art design , architecture, with planetary aspects of jupiter , mercury . 4th house rashi is aquarius, co-lorded by rahu in 2nd in capricorn and saturn in 9th in cancer rashi . Could show two schools. The first school , with different religion as i was in convent school, and second with traditional orthodox name setup. Saturn in cancer in 1st and 10th , as told by my Guru, doesnt confer rajyoga ,saturn is nothing like royal, infact could mean questionable birth. Well Sawai Man Singh to jaipur is royal, i would like to believe and this school was founded by Gayatri Devi. Moreover 4th lord in 9th house, can show relation between my initial study continues at the bachelors level. 9th lord in 2nd can show continuation of bachelors into masters. 2nd lord in 1st house with aspect of 7th lord venus , can even show masters if dasha allows. 9th house being badhaksthana and deposited with saturn , can be the reason of delay. Also considerably a bachelors course is three yrs, while our campus has it for 5 and half yrs. Now 10th lord is sun, and the tenth is house is marak and sustainer, there is again a rahu ketu rashi aspect to the sustaining house, with none other. How is this different from rahu ketu aspect to 9th house of bachelors education as seen in scorpio lagna vs the 10th house aspect? Also saturn is 8th to moon , and saturn was kantaka sani for the varga chart as it was transiting cancer since last two yrs, So could have been the cause of delay . the delay and probelms to 9th house education should be seen from 9th house itself or specifically the tenth ? In sagitarius lagna saturn aspects the 10th house where 9th lord sun is sitting. In scorpio lagna saturn is sitting in cancer 9th house itself badhaksthana . What are the possibilites of post-grad education in this scorpio lagna , when the sustainence house has rahu ketu sitting there. also does this indicate post grad abraod? 9th lord moon is sitting in 2nd house , and 2nd lord jupiter is sitting in lagna . Rahu ketu in the sustanence house. with the coming gemini dasha being 8th house , would it give post grad? Please look at these two different options. I have yet not got my bachelors degree in hand. Until i do that masters is impossible. Which chart looks right and what are the chances in each case to continue in post-grad. swati namah shivaya On 1/10/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: > > *hraum namah adityaya* > *Dear Swati, Namaskar!* > *Please find my comments below.* > *Hopefully red is agni..forget me wednesday!* > *Regards* > *Rafal Gendarz* > > > - > ** healing spaces <healingspaces > > *To:* ; sohamsa ; > nearmichal ; paramaguru > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 10, 2007 7:06 AM > *Subject:* Re: Siddhamsa [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om > Krishna Guru] > > Hare Rama Krsna : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah > Dear Michal, Gurus and members > Sanjayji's lectures on Siddhamsa are wonderful and i wil like to thank him > for he wonderful resources provided by him for learning. i remember my first > discussion with my guru was also in d-24. I am learning so much through > this discussion Michal ji . Even trying to apply it on the charts of my > known ones and friends from campus. > Altough here are some basic Some doubts on D-24, Please help me through > them. > 1. What will the significant things that come in play when 1st house > placements are rahu ketu. > > [rafal] As Nodes afflicts Akasha Tattwa it usually gives bad education or > lack of inspiration to learn. It should be confirmed with Jupiter position. > Jupiter in D9 shows how one learns through God help, D24 how one learns in > area or for para-/apara siddhi. Nodes shows also ending point of education > and this should be studied with 4L - goal which one would like to reach in > educational spheres of life. Lagna is Brahma-sthana where one is awaken to > create new possibilites therefore kendra to Lagna in Padakrama Dasa > (southern name) shows new beginings to You while Kendra to Surya shows new > begining to outside resources..Lagna in every Varga shows fame and attitude > related to that area therefore Sani in D20-Ascendent give sadness in > spiritual matters. Rahu will give too much thinking while Ketu > overconfidence. > > > 2. How would one proceed when rahu ketu are in 4th house. does it mean > problems or end at formal education. how would it differ from rahu ketu > rashi dhristi aspect to the 4th house. How would it differ from graha > drishti aspect. And in what conditions does it allow forward movement in > education > > *[rafal] Forth bhava is Ganesha sthana where education begins. Therefore > kids in Gurukula's pray to Ganapati. It has to do with Prhtvi Tattwa and > Muladhara chakra. Forth bhava is karyabhava here and malefics there are very > bad. Person can have good attitude (Lagna0 but events / situation can make > Him sad and discouraged (argala). If malefics are in forth, lordship of that > sthana will show cause (Surya (karaka of dispositor) - creator) and > independently forth lord shows objective while Lagnesh shows what > motivate You to start.. Do You catch the difference?* > > > 3. 5th house or 10th house are marak houses to formal education and > bachelors education. What will rahu ketu placements do in marak houses > placements. > > *[rafal] Fifth is root of paravidya science and it fruits(11) are seen by > hearing properly guru upadesa and initating good and peaceful (not himsa - > benefic in third and without obstacles - aspects 9H) methods to get things > done. Fifth in D24 also shows hobbies and for example I have nodes there > which shows dabbling with Jyotish. Mangal and Ketu (papargal on enemy of > karaka of 4h) in 5H shows mind filled with too much extravertism which put > the person out of home and study and get into gangs and that kind of things. > Tenth house shows how You teach (see Devata) planets there shows what > sustains/breaks college-step so give proper Upadesa to Your clients based on > that.* > > > 4 What kind of studies can be actually shown by rahu, ketu: Can they play > any role? in todays age when we do most of our learning through internet, > computers? Also rahu ketu are known as planets for radical or futuristic > inventions. Consider some body studying interactive embedded technology, > nanotechnology. What planets wil play role? > > [rafal] Lot depends on signs. Prthvi are more connected to money while > watery to intelectual jobs (they can also give passions in rasi). Rahu can > indicate politics or philosophy also. In my chart I have 9H scorpio with two > lords - one is Mangal with Sani (engineering with construtction that was my > first study which I broke) and Ketu is with Rahu in Cancer in fifth bhava - > my 2nd college is philosophy. Rahu shows independent (3H) eagerness and > stance to get things without help of Guru so beware of students which has > Ra/Sa in 1/5 from Lagna in D1 without AK in kona(s). > > > > 6. do we at any time consider graha aspects in these charts. > > [rafal] Yes, every tool should be used if its a) relevant and b) properly > applied. > > > 7. how would narayana dasha dictate and can change ur course of study. > Imagine a person doing bachelors degree, and the person is running narayan > dasha of the 7th house which denotes the ending to education in certain way > . > > [rafal] Start D24 Narayana dasa from 4L(D1) for apara vidya siddhi's > > 8. Shall post another mail for the questions u asked Michal on my D-24 > Scorpio and Sagitarrius. > Thanks in advance. > Swati > Om gurave namah > > > > > > On 1/10/07, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote: > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > I think I have the lectures you are talking about. > > > > Sorry, there seems to have been some confusion. Your 4th house is > > Aquarius - so... has two lords. These two represent your two schools in > > Jaipur. You mentioned one had some royal affiliation - so I pointed out > > Saturn in Cancer, as it is a combination for royalty. > > > > Two major points that you still have not been able to answer regarding > > Sagitarius Lagna are: > > 1. Why did you not go overseas for your primary level education as > > Jupiter is 4th Lord in the 12th. > > 2. Why do Rahu and Ketu in the 2nd house not end the education. > > > > 9th lord in 10th can give problems, but what kind of problems? Usually > > related to work, ending the education and joining the workforce career - > > 10th house. Or if the 7th house is involved, getting married, or if the > > 12th house is involved going travelling etc. > > > > Sun is photography. But architecture is more Mars don't you think? > > Design is definately Venus. Moon is more caring, nuturing, healing. > > > > What about Moon in badhaksthana from Gemini dasa causing travel? > > > > Respectfully, > > Michal > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > designhologram <healingspaces > > > > > Wednesday, January 10, 2007 12:12:03 PM > > Siddhamsa [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna > > Guru] > > > > *Hare Rama Krsna , > > dear Michal, Gurus and members > > Found some more siddhamsa lectures by Sanjay Rathiji, don't know from > > where i picked them, but are not from atri it seems. they are saved from > > august on my computer. If u need them i can pass those too. The discussion > > on his chart is very interesting . And there are some more points than the > > Atri Audio:) > > I have put some doubts on ur comments and recent addition to my > > listening the new audios. > > > > Yes scorpio seems to be more positive also at the level of phd. and > > directly takes my attention, but delay and problems in 9th house has made > > me more skeptical. my notes in blue > > > > The same school can have many different meanings for all people. > > Someone that was badly bullied there will have different combinations to > > signify their schooling experience. > > First see the planets in the 9th house, then the Lord, and then the > > aspects. In this order we can see the higher education. > > Don�t you think its interesting that your school, represented by the 4th > > lord Saturn, transformed into a University, as it is placed in the 9th > > house? > > No its not my school that turned into college or university. my two > > schools were in jaipur, one being convent girls school , and other being a > > co-ed royal school. infact college is in different city all together. i > > moved from jaipur to ahmedabad , towards slight south west. the college that > > i was studyingis very focused to designwith no other faculties turned into > > deemed university in later years. Also its important to know that the > > bachelors i was going through is five yrs, where first 6 semesters are in > > college, the next semester of six months is job, the next thee semesters are > > in college. Then we have a thesis (which is almost like a phd thesis at > > times, and people)it is this thesis which i delayed in. sometimes i feel i > > am doing phd and gemini Also probably my convocation to this degree wil > > happen in gemini dasha. > > Sagitarius > > Some new views i heard in these new audios was , that the 4th lord > > placemnt shows the seed and final desire to education and 7th lord shows the > > end to formal education till phd level. In this case 4th lord with 7th lord > > in 12th house can be positive sign for abroad possibilities. Also he > > mentions that if 9th lord in 10th can create problem in finishing the > > bachelors. cant the moon aspect from lagna to sun indicate architecture, > > design, photography. i am just considering if we my time was any way right > > as 18:05, than what do i do remedy it. And give me post-grad. 4 yrs delay , > > and my in between working can attribute to its break. Hope this is not the > > case, but are there any positive ends to it? Also i know in soem way family > > has also been reason for certain delay. > > Scorpio > > Delay is Saturn. Always mean nodes. > > So my spiritual education , since it is lord of 3rd house is distracting > > my delay:) > > > > Look at it this way. Does the lord of any house going to another house > > have any significance? It must. What about the Arudhapada of the 2nd > > falling in the 12th house? > > Moon can indicate the public and social things, so it can be something > > like the design of a town, or buildings that have to do with the public like > > halls, meeting places etc. > > Hope i do this, and work around same direction:) i wil be so glad. any > > remedies that i can pursue for the coming dasha, and timing of when i wil > > go. > > Respectfully, > > Swati > > * > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > I never said that Saturn would give rajayoga to you. All I said was > > > that if we were to take Saturn in Cancer as Lagna for one of your schools, > > > then the school would have the charachteristics of some rajyoga ie. be > > > prestigious, royal etc. > > > > > > If Sagitarius was the Lagna then how would you explain design? Lord > > > of the ninth is Sun in Virgo and the 9th is aspected by the nodes. Let us > > > first try to be straight - 9th house is for bachelor level education. > > > > > > Sagitarius > > > Why would the 1st lord going to the 12th give overseas education for > > > masters and not for primary education? Jupiter is also the 4th lord - so > > > don't you think that your first schooling experience (4th house) would have > > > been abroad? > > > > > > Scorpio > > > Instead, look at it this way, 2nd lord of Masters education (Jupiter) > > > is in the 12th from there - so your post-graduate studies will be overseas. > > > Moon is in badhaksthana from Gemini and in the 7th house which also > > > deals with travel - so you have two conspiring to take you abroad in this > > > dasa. > > > > > > So is Sanjay's recent Siddhamsa lecture in English? > > > > > > Looking forward to more of your thoughts. Please have a good look at > > > Scorpio Lagna for the reasons I have given and tell me what you think. > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > Michal > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > healing spaces <healingspaces > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa> > > > Saturday, January 6, 2007 9:06:12 AM > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna > > > Guru] > > > > > > Hare Rama krsna > > > Dear Michal ... > > > Thanks for ur continous posts and interest.. I am learning a lot:) > > > With scorpio 18:00 ..my badhakesh becomes 9th lord moon , while lord > > > of 3rd and 4th saturn placed in 9th gets placed in 9th house badhakstha, so > > > dont know if its rajyoga. For two yrs , saturn has been transitting cancer, > > > and i faced most of my delays in last two yrs, altough i think now with > > > saturn retro transit, will result in submission and finishing of my viva. > > > how will the end be seen for 9th house? it should end is taursu-Aquarius( > > > which antar) dasha itself > > > i am not so good in narayana dasha yet... cant make out what gemini > > > dasha wil bring and also aspect of moon ..moos is also badhakesh.. Also if i > > > pursue post-masters its going to be abraod so i need combination for both:) > > > also what would be the post masters in.. there are no aspects to 2nd house > > > now, so moon is going to decide the specialization course in design? > > > help me to see gemini narayan dasha also. > > > > > > i see more chances of abroad in sagitarius lagna 18:05 . as the 1st > > > lord is in 12th and badhaksthana gemini may start operating now and > > > badhakesh is also in is also in 12th house. however moon has to come into > > > play as it aspects gemini... Also with rahu ketu in 2nd and many aspects it > > > can show many influences on masters degree:) > > > > > > i think i am confused now for my D-24 enough:) > > > > > > For mother ..yes possible we need to go backward for her time > > > too...altough at bachelors level she did sanskrit, and some other subjects > > > also..Specializatio n comes when she does masters..and moon has aspect to > > > 2nd house. venus in 6th debilated ..i dont know... also what about her > > > further pursuits after Ph D, writing books papers...mars in 3rd > > > house..karaka bhava nashao..her younger bro is not there...7th house is > > > afflicted though... > > > > > > Guru Sanjayjis lectures are in English mostly...so u can listen to > > > them... > > > Also sanjayji told the houses 5th , 10th , 3rd, 8th and 1st are for > > > spiritual pursuits and informal learning and finally self-realization. > > > > > > > > > wishes > > > swati > > > Namah Shivaya > > > > > > > > > On 1/5/07, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal <nearmichal >> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > > > Yes, Saturn is the significator for delay. I have asked you before > > > > - what do you think about Gemini dasa approaching? 9th Lord Moon is > > > > aspecting this sign from the 2nd house of post-graduate studies. > > > > If your Mother has studied psychology then perhaps Moon should be in > > > > the 9th house. That would put Shani in the 7th house of Phd, and as Shani > > > > is karaka for the 10th house it would make sense that her studies had the > > > > focus of 'vocation' and the psychology of that as Moon aspects. Shakti yoga > > > > is good if malefics are there, Mars in her case, as the this shows the power > > > > to overcome anger, hatred etc. > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > healing spaces <healingspaces > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa> > > > > Friday, January 5, 2007 8:47:14 AM > > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna > > > > Guru] > > > > > > > > Hare Rama krsna > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > Thanks...Does saturn show delay with rajyoga as well? with this D-24 > > > > when do u see a possibility of post-grad? > > > > My mother is a professor in psychology and has done phd in > > > > vocational psychology. No, i don't think she had any problems in bachelors. > > > > She started working in very early age by 22 after finishing her masters. She > > > > did PhD after her marriage i believe.She got married in May 1974. > > > > what would u say about her father from 9th house? he had parkinsons > > > > for many yrs and suffered a lot. She also has strong shakti yoga in > > > > 7th house involving Ak . So some dischords too. > > > > Swati > > > > Namah shivaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/5/07, Michal Dziwulski < nearmichal <nearmichal >> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > > > > > Shani in Karka gives rajyoga in the 1st or 10th houses. So, if we > > > > > take your 9th house in Siddhamsa and call that the Lagna for one of your > > > > > schools then this combination is present. > > > > > Can you give details about what your Mother studied? Jupiter, > > > > > Rahu and Ketu in Scorpio could give some kind of scientific field like > > > > > radiology or chemistry. Mercury and Rahu in the Navamsa Lagna indicates > > > > > homeopathy. The lord of the 9th is exalted but retrograde - did she have to > > > > > work very hard to complete her bachelor level studies? In the Rasi chart > > > > > Lagna Lord is exalted in the 9th with the 5th lord - I can really believe > > > > > she has a lot of students! > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > There are many schools that have churches, I went to one myself for > > some time. Not every student at the school had Meena in the 4th house of D24 > > I'm sure. There must be other factors. > > > > > > You were born in India but this school that you attended was Catholic > > - is this right? If this is the case then the nodes were clearly dominating > > there giving you foreign influence in your education, Rahu as one lord of > > the 4th house. > > > > > > Then you say the 2nd school had royal association. Royalty does not > > just come from Aries, there are many other factors that can cause this such > > as Atmakaraka, association with Surya etc. What > > > about Shani in Karka? - this gives a very high rajayoga when placed in > > the 1st or 10th house. So maybe somehow it is giving some results here too. > > I'm not sure about this, but I'm just trying to look at it from as many > > angles as possible. > > > > > > If Pisces was your 4th house then the lord going to the 12th house > > could give primary education abroad. If we take Scorpio Lagna then 12th lord > > Venus and Lagnesha Mars are posted in the 7th house of travel, showing that > > there is the possibility of travel for the advanced education, since it > > aspects the 9th house. > > > > > > Also, dasa is there to time the event, the event has to be first seen > > in the chart. Just becasue dasa had changed from pisces to aries doesn't > > necessarily indicate a change. Did you got to a school on a farm just > > becasue the dasa changed to Taurus? And then go to a playground because dasa > > changed to Gemini? Do you see my point. > > > > > > I have not done any work on the D60 chart to be > > > honest. There is just so much to learn isn't there. > > > For your Mother's chart - remember that the nodes break the education > > unless there is the strong association of Jupiter. If there is, then > > education will continue. If you want you can share your mother's chart and > > we can look more. > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > Michal > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > healing spaces healingspaces@ ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nearmichal > > > Wednesday, January 3, 2007 2:43:35 AM > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna > > Guru] > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > Dear Michalji, > > > > > > > > > Hoping to see your valued comments on my last mail about D-24 and D-60 > > . > > > > > > Wishing u a great year ahead > > > > > > Swati > > > > > > Namah Shivaya > > > > > > On 12/31/06, healing spaces < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > healingspaces@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hare Rama krsna : : Om Vyom Vyasadevaya namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Michal, My Guru and learned members... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your valued inputs..it helps me learn Please correct me > > whenever needed. > > > > > Yes Scorpio lagna with time 18:00 makes a lot more sense with many > > more reasons. But changing a lot in D-60 and getting my venus in MKS there > > ..and getting jupiter out of MKS.There is already a spouse curse and > > venus Ak is MKS in rashi, 12th in D-9 and now again MKS in D-60. So lot to > > handle. > > > > > > > > > But some few pointers with sagitarius. > > > > > > The first lord in 12th with mercury shows possibilities of study > > abraod or loosing out on studies.Will > > > > > pisces in 4th house being a dual sign can also give two schools. My > > first school convent Sophia .Pisces indicates a place more peaceful ,ocean > > like with church ...But ya this school at one end had a church inside the > > campus but had a graveyard at back which we could see. > > > > > > The second school was a newly founded school with royal associations > > and name. so Aries. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Explaining the change in capricorn-pisces to capricorn -aries > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For my bachelors degree i moved towards SW of Jaipur city.Okie now > > coming to 9th lord leo in case of sagi, which has no aspects other than > > graha dhristi of rahu ketu ..yes may not show much of the background of my > > studies and campus of architecture and design. Sun as lord would show some > > govt association. this chart also is positive for masters and abroad > > education yet no more than masters with rahu and ketu in 2nd house. But with > > rahu ketu , also problem in completion of masters. > > > > > > > > > With scorpio: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It has many positives apart from getting venus out of MKS in 7th house > > while making Mars MKS. It gets mercury and jupiter in lagna also making me > > intelligent and interested in astrology. With cancer as lord of 9th house, > > it now gets lot many aspects of mars venus, jupiter mercury with rashi > > dhristi and rahu ketu with graha dhristi. > > > > > > By the way in our education we never had exams or written papers at > > all. All we had was juries and submissions, lot of model making, drafting , > > sketching and hard work keeping up late in nights..So what i succeded mostly > > was keeping getting my ideas to jury and teachers , while collecting lot of > > jealousy among the batchmates. > > > Does scorpio give masters and abraod studies? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now a lot changes with D-60 ..the options are again : (Sagi in D-24 > > with taurus in D-60 sarpa amsa rising , Venus in 4th ) or (scorpio in D-24 > > with pisces in D-60, indu amsa rising, venus in 6th ). > > > > > > Some pointers...I have had some accidents with head injury and eye > > afflictions and teeth issues. little problems and differences in home > > enviornment. > > > > > > > > > Rest later after ur valued comments. i have been trying these > > techniques with some other charts ...and getting either very good results or > > not so good . Especially my mothers chart has rahu ketu jupiter in 9th in > > D-24 but she has done PHD and is a professor. Would i rectify her chart too? > > > > > > > > Swati > > > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Shreem mahalakshmai namah : : Namah Shivaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wish u all a great yr ahead and ur family...and may light shine in all > > of us. Bless me with more aparvidya:) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/31/06, Michal Dziwulski nearmichal > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > > > > If we make Scorpio the Lagna for your D24 chart then Aquarius will be > > the 4th house. There are two lords, so you attended two schools. Rahu will > > indicate the school with more of a foreign influence - like a different > > religion, or different social values etc. > > > > > > > > > If Sagitarius is the Lagna then the Sun would be the 9th lord, and, I > > could be wrong, but I don't see how the Sun in Virgo would indicate > > Architecture and Design. Then also the Nodes would be aspecting the 9th > > house by Rasi drsti and putting an end to any further education. And how > > would we explain the top marks you get? > > > > > > > > > We always use mean nodes for natal horoscopes. > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > Michal > > > > > > [ Om Namo > > > Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > healing spaces <healingspaces@ > > > gmail.com> > > > To: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > ; nearmichal > > > Sunday, December 31, 2006 8:41:47 AM > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna > > Guru] > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna, > > > Dear Michal , > > > > > > Sorry that was a mistype where i missed the word. i have not finished > > higher education. > > > i did my schooling from two schools in same town. Shifted from convent > > school to more a royal school in 1993. this was i think during narayana > > dasha shift of cap-pisces to cap-taurus. After my 12th standard, i joined > > this design and architecture 5 yr course away from my home town. > > > > > > > > > So do u see scorpio as my lagna, that would bring my time to 18:00. i > > have tried this rectification before. Wil saturn in 9th suffice for the > > delay that i have faced. > > > > > > > > > Sorry i am confused do we use true nodes option or mean nodes and > > explanation for same.i think i tinkered the default settings. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Swati > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om gurave namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/31/06, Michal Dziwulski > > > nearmichal > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > > > > Having a further look I realised I had missed an important factor. In > > the D24 Narayana dasa of Gemini the 9th lord is strongly aspecting the dasa > > rasi. This is certainly a positive indication for the completion of your > > degree. Sorry for the confusion. > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > Michal > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > Michal Dziwulski nearmichal > > > > To: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > Sunday, December 31, 2006 7:57:48 AM > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: > > > [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > When you say you finished your higher education, what did you study > > before? Currently you are doing architecture and design, but did you study > > anything before this? > > > > > > > > > If we were to move the D24 Lagna to Scorpio then this is how I would > > see it - Jupiter and Mercury with Dig Bala in the first house giving an > > excellent student - remember Lagna in any divisional chart is you. 9th house > > has retrograde Shani showing delays in the completion of these studies. 9th > > Lord going to 2nd house showing that these studies will have to lead to post > > graduate pursuits. Architecture requires a lot of understanding of > > engineering and is very logical, whereas design is more artistic - and here > > we > > > would have the combination of Mars (Lagnesha) and Venus aspecting the > > 9th house. That duo in the Lagna also aspects the 9th house which would > > explain all those high marks. > > > > > > If we take Narayana Dasa of D24 chart you will see that Taurus dasa > > has been running from 1995 to the present and is nearly over. Taurus houses > > the combination of Mars and Venus that aspects your 9th house. What do you > > think about Gemini dasa coming up next? It is the 8th house, and its lord is > > conjoined the 5th lord in Lagna. The 5th house is concerned with > > spirituality, and the 4th from there (8th house) is the learning of the > > same. So maybe you might be taking a break from your studies to pursue > > something more spiritual. No doubt you will be thinking a lot about > > post-grad, since Jupiter is lord of the 2nd, but you can't go on to that > > until you complete 9th house first. > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > Michal > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > healing spaces <healingspaces@ gmail.com> > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > Saturday, December 30, 2006 2:09:19 PM > > > > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna > > Guru] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama krsna > > > Dear Michal, > > > > > > > > > Its always great to gather inputs from all on a great forum like this > > ... And i must congratulate YOU that u caught a great nerve that is > > troubling me in my life. I have finished my higher education. Further i > > joined a > > > five yr BACHELORS course in architecture and design. My first 9 > > semesters had me being topping in all subjects, which created lots of > > jealousy around me.. Moreover i was having a lot of family troubles at the > > background,which still continue. My tenth semster which includes writing a > > thesis , has gone for a long stretch after this and yes i have still not > > completed it. it still has to go through last stages of submission and viva, > > as i can never leave a > > > hope.I have not failed yet but it has delayed for more than 4 yrs. The > > delay has occured due to my perfectionist attitude, my lost ability to > > overcome situations, lost relationships and the overarching family issues. > > In mean time yes i have started freelancing and sustaining myself > > financially, yet i would not say i am settled in career. > > > > > > Sharing all this information, for study purposes. U could comment of > > birth rectification. I have gone over trying to rectify but never succeded. > > > > > > > > > Would love to know when will i finish and get my degree in hand? Are > > there any remedies particularly for > > > same.Still a HOPE to pursue post-grad. Any HOPE? or possibility of > > working abroad? > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swati > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/30/06, Michal Dziwulski < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nearmichal > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > Hope you don't mind my input. In your D24 chart Rahu and Ketu occupy > > the 2nd house which is seen for post graduate study ie. Masters, Honours. > > This can be overcome if a strong Jupiter associates, as he will want you to > > continue learning. Has your chart been rectified? Also 9th lord Sun going to > > the 10th house would indicate an end to bachelor level education and > > entering into work. Rahu and Ketu are the only other planets aspecting the > > 9th house. Did you complete your higher education? If you did then maybe the > > Lagna has to be shifted. Please share your experience for the purpose of > > learning. > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > Michal > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > healing spaces healingspaces@ ... > > > To: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > Friday, December 29, 2006 1:01:08 PM > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna > > Guru] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krsna > > > > > > Pranam Sweeji, > > > > > > > > > No > > > i am not married yet ...Altough i have had a past relationship. And am > > > > > not planning to get married yet .. Want to go abraod and pursue > > post-grad and > > > research in design and architecture. Don't know if this is possible. > > > > > > > > > u > > > mentioned badhakesh period till 2012 . i think later to that even i > > > will be running badhaksthan pisces chara dasha till 2020. When do u > > > forsee marriage ? > > > > > > 'Demented quite, I must have been if I did not suggest Pearl as an > > upaya. Tis not for you to adorn.' > > > Did u mean this is MUST for me.. ?What about emerald ? > > > > > > > > > Swati > > > > > > > > > Om gurave namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/29/06, > > > Swee Chan sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > > > > > Demented quite, I must have been if I did not suggest Pearl as an > > upaya. Tis not for you to adorn. Badhakesh period extends to 2012 > > > > > > Challenges in area of spousal affairs. Are you married yet? If so, > > wouldn't you wish upon a star that he'd be a cutting edge more spiritual? > > > > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > > > > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/28/06 10:11 PM, "healing spaces" <healingspaces@ gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > > > Pranam Sweeji, and members > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the birth details > > > > > > Date 15th april 1979 > > > > > > time 18: 05 > > > > > > place jaipur city , rajasthan 75 E 49 26 N 55 > > > > > > Definitely shall figure out on my own about which audio it was > > ..:)Shall look forward for the worthy discussions. on pointers like kevala > > mahyogada, vaiseshikamsa and other discourses. > > > > > > gemstones and physical holdings always carry a fancy ...and more > > positive feeling of holding. > > > > > > > > > > > > Wishes > > > > > > Swati > > > > > > Namah Shivya : Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/28/06, Swee Chan sweechan@mac . com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you give your deets again? Sorry, can't seem to find the time > > (without disturbance) to listen to the mp3's including the ones I've bought > > :| > > > > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > > > > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/28/06 12:19 PM, "healing spaces" <healingspaces@ gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://gmail. com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama krsna > > > > > > Dear Sweeji, > > > > > > Are u talking about Narshimaji books that contains information on > > yogada and vaiseshika. I still have to pick up that book. Do u know which > > audio contains the details. > > > > > > In my chart mars and mercury form kevala mahayogada, would they turn > > beneficiary for me ..or still remain dhrita badhak and problem creators. > > > > > > In vaiseshikamsa i have sun with high strength and exalted in many > > divisional charts ...but is functional malefic for my chart and also in > > gandhta. > > > > > > u had prescribed me pearl seeing the rising ascendant hasta nakshatra > > and also acc to dwisaptati dasha. while for emerald u see sometimes the best > > remedies is to initiate the debilated planet... > > > > > > Now Anuj ji with suggests citrine with his conclusions. Vistiji > > recommends no stones.. > > > > > > It wil be good if i compile it all together for study purpose..... and > > we could reach some lasting conclusions. .Wishing my Guru is around..and > > would enrich this discussion.. > > > > > > Lastly i am seeign this as more a learning process.. as i really dont > > see myself making any investments in near future, until it costs me > > less.Just for curosity sake.. Bharat ji what do the yantras cost ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Swati > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/28/06, swami swami_rcs > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > II Om Gurave Namah II > > > > > > Hari om , Friend, > > > > > > Dear Sarvashree swee and Anuj, > > > > > > Thanks to both of you.In light of hint from Swee and analysis > > > > > > of Swati chart, based on concept by Anuj ,if combined: I understand > > > > > > we can check prescription of Gems in critical cases. In fact Swati > > > > > > chart and her wearing of Gems case is interesting for , it breeds > > ground > > > > > > for correct application of this small segment of Vedic knowledge. > > > > > > By the way concept of Yogi and Avayogi may be a part of Achyut > > > > > > parampara, since during Panchang lecture Pt Sanjay has asked his > > > > > > students to work out Yoga point and other details , that he promised > > to > > > > > > discuss next time. > > > > > > Concept of Yoga avyoga is well adopted in west and Late sh.H.R Shanker > > > > > > > > has also written about it in Astrological Magazine .Jyotish tool , > > > > > > Digital jyotish,Astroloka etc are good software and DJ is excellent to > > give > > > > > > a fair trial to Teachings of Sh.H.R.S.Iyer' s work. > > > > > > I feel in spite of differences we should continue to share knowledge. > > > > > > Lastly i thank both of you and Visti and of course Swati who has > > permitted > > > > > > discussion on her chart on open forum. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarve Bhavantu Sukhinah > > > > > > Sarve Santu Niramaya > > > > > > Sarve Bhadrani Pasyantu > > > > > > Ma Kashchid Dukh Bhaag Bhaveit > > > > > > HARI OM TATSAT > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- > > > > > > R.C.Srivastava > > > > > > For Consultation -Service > > > > > > E-mail : swami_rcs > > > > > > > > > > > > 199,MMIG "Guru Kripa" > > > > > > Shaheed Nagar. 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Guest guest Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 Hare rama krsna: Vyom Vyasadevaya Namah Dear Michalji, Rafalji,Guruji and other learned memebers thanks Rafalji for delving with my questions...And michalji for getting into minute details to see the d-24. here are the answers to what u asked. Please correct me where i went wrong and also i have written some questions . Also michal ji, i dont think saturn in cancer is anything like royal and confers any rajyoga. Here are some more doubts..and a brief analysis of my D-24 chart 15th april 1979 , place jaipur city ( 75 E 49 , 26 N 55) Option 1. Sagitarius as lagna in D-24 (Recorded time 18:05) Moon in 1st house, with lot of attention to education. Also my mothers attention in my education as she herself is in education field. 1st lord and 4th lord Jupiter in 12th with 7th and 10th lord. A desire, motivation objective, to go till Ph D level in a abroad place altough with . fourth lord in 12th necessarliy may not mean formal school education studies abraod, but the objective as being the karyesh lord. Also 4th lord , dont know if i can see mother from this, but Jupiter as lord shows her excelence as professor. jupiter mercury have planetary aspects by venus and mars, rings a bell of influence of Ak and design, art architecture, adding to my intellectual base. i was running taurus dasha when i started my design course. Also rashi aspect of rahu ketu, saturn to the 1st and 4th lord, showing delays and struggles throughout. Now coming to formal education. 4th lord is dual sign so can indicate a change altough its placed in fixed rashi , so doesnt bring a shift in place. the first school was convent, foreign influence and all girls school joined in virgo narayan dasha. the second school was a school with little royal association s and a co-ed. the change happened when i was in capricorn -pisces dasha .Pisces is my 4th house here so a time to alter. this happened in 1993 Taurus Dasha, starts in 1995. have placement of venus and mars, took science as subjects, but was very sure that i want to do architecture and design , so unlike other students in my class, was not very interested in IIT. taurus -scorpio dasha i joined my 5yrs course in interior architecture in ahmedabad. Change of place to south west. Here come the question ? Can the 9th lord sun in 10th house with rashi aspect of moon, be sufficeint to give me education in design architecture, interiors, furniture. Well to an extant sun and moon are the two sides of coin, of the abstract and the concrete, and i always work with these layers, when i design . The running taurus dasha with venus and mars there could be a strong infulence to add the visual beauty to it. Rahu ketu aspect the 9th house with rashi dhriti so somm foriegn influences strongly, knowing that we .saturn aspects the 10th house which is the sustainer and the marak house to my bachelors degree. saturn is also transiting cancer since two yrs, and has given me delay. 9th lord in 10th Sun could also mean i got involved in doing jobs, or there were felt obstructions from family as sun and moon are strongly influencing the 10th house. So there are invariably enough indications of problems at the bachelors level. Also 9th lord in 10th in dual sign , so can show the changes in status and administartion of my college. since now it has turned into deemed university. How does one see this when will this end? What is the role of saturn® and sun here in delay and sustainence? in my rashi chart the saturn is in leo, while here it is in cancer? Now if i finish and get a degree are there chances of post grad? Will education end at bachelors due to rahu ketu aspect to 9th? 2 house has rahu, ketu, so strong influence of foreign .2nd lord capricorn is aspected by saturn graha dhristi. in terms of rashi dhristi there are aspects of jupiter, merc, mars, venus. So the house is strong. i wil be going into gemini dasha soon, which is aspected by sun and moon placed in kendra. Gemini is also badhaksthana. Option 2. Scorpio as lagna in D24 (18:00) Jupiter and mercury in 1st house , good intelligence with digbal. Mars as lagna lord with venus in 7th house, motivation again coloured by art design , architecture, with planetary aspects of jupiter , mercury . 4th house rashi is aquarius, co-lorded by rahu in 2nd in capricorn and saturn in 9th in cancer rashi . Could show two schools. The first school , with different religion as i was in convent school, and second with traditional orthodox name setup. Saturn in cancer in 1st and 10th , as told by my Guru, doesnt confer rajyoga ,saturn is nothing like royal, infact could mean questionable birth. Well Sawai Man Singh to jaipur is royal, i would like to believe and this school was founded by Gayatri Devi. Moreover 4th lord in 9th house, can show relation between my initial study continues at the bachelors level. 9th lord in 2nd can show continuation of bachelors into masters. 2nd lord in 1st house with aspect of 7th lord venus , can even show masters if dasha allows. 9th house being badhaksthana and deposited with saturn , can be the reason of delay. Also considerably a bachelors course is three yrs, while our campus has it for 5 and half yrs. Now 10th lord is sun, and the tenth is house is marak and sustainer, there is again a rahu ketu rashi aspect to the sustaining house, with none other. How is this different from rahu ketu aspect to 9th house of bachelors education as seen in scorpio lagna vs the 10th house aspect? Also saturn is 8th to moon , and saturn was kantaka sani for the varga chart as it was transiting cancer since last two yrs, So could have been the cause of delay . the delay and probelms to 9th house education should be seen from 9th house itself or specifically the tenth ? In sagitarius lagna saturn aspects the 10th house where 9th lord sun is sitting. In scorpio lagna saturn is sitting in cancer 9th house itself badhaksthana . What are the possibilites of post-grad education in this scorpio lagna , when the sustainence house has rahu ketu sitting there. also does this indicate post grad abraod? 9th lord moon is sitting in 2nd house , and 2nd lord jupiter is sitting in lagna . Rahu ketu in the sustanence house. with the coming gemini dasha being 8th house , would it give post grad? Please look at these two different options. I have yet not got my bachelors degree in hand. Until i do that masters is impossible. Which chart looks right and what are the chances in each case to continue in post-grad. swati namah shivaya On 1/10/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: > > *hraum namah adityaya* > *Dear Swati, Namaskar!* > *Please find my comments below.* > *Hopefully red is agni..forget me wednesday!* > *Regards* > *Rafal Gendarz* > > > - > ** healing spaces <healingspaces > > *To:* ; sohamsa ; > nearmichal ; paramaguru > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 10, 2007 7:06 AM > *Subject:* Re: Siddhamsa [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om > Krishna Guru] > > Hare Rama Krsna : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah > Dear Michal, Gurus and members > Sanjayji's lectures on Siddhamsa are wonderful and i wil like to thank him > for he wonderful resources provided by him for learning. i remember my first > discussion with my guru was also in d-24. I am learning so much through > this discussion Michal ji . Even trying to apply it on the charts of my > known ones and friends from campus. > Altough here are some basic Some doubts on D-24, Please help me through > them. > 1. What will the significant things that come in play when 1st house > placements are rahu ketu. > > [rafal] As Nodes afflicts Akasha Tattwa it usually gives bad education or > lack of inspiration to learn. It should be confirmed with Jupiter position. > Jupiter in D9 shows how one learns through God help, D24 how one learns in > area or for para-/apara siddhi. Nodes shows also ending point of education > and this should be studied with 4L - goal which one would like to reach in > educational spheres of life. Lagna is Brahma-sthana where one is awaken to > create new possibilites therefore kendra to Lagna in Padakrama Dasa > (southern name) shows new beginings to You while Kendra to Surya shows new > begining to outside resources..Lagna in every Varga shows fame and attitude > related to that area therefore Sani in D20-Ascendent give sadness in > spiritual matters. Rahu will give too much thinking while Ketu > overconfidence. > > > 2. How would one proceed when rahu ketu are in 4th house. does it mean > problems or end at formal education. how would it differ from rahu ketu > rashi dhristi aspect to the 4th house. How would it differ from graha > drishti aspect. And in what conditions does it allow forward movement in > education > > *[rafal] Forth bhava is Ganesha sthana where education begins. Therefore > kids in Gurukula's pray to Ganapati. It has to do with Prhtvi Tattwa and > Muladhara chakra. Forth bhava is karyabhava here and malefics there are very > bad. Person can have good attitude (Lagna0 but events / situation can make > Him sad and discouraged (argala). If malefics are in forth, lordship of that > sthana will show cause (Surya (karaka of dispositor) - creator) and > independently forth lord shows objective while Lagnesh shows what > motivate You to start.. Do You catch the difference?* > > > 3. 5th house or 10th house are marak houses to formal education and > bachelors education. What will rahu ketu placements do in marak houses > placements. > > *[rafal] Fifth is root of paravidya science and it fruits(11) are seen by > hearing properly guru upadesa and initating good and peaceful (not himsa - > benefic in third and without obstacles - aspects 9H) methods to get things > done. Fifth in D24 also shows hobbies and for example I have nodes there > which shows dabbling with Jyotish. Mangal and Ketu (papargal on enemy of > karaka of 4h) in 5H shows mind filled with too much extravertism which put > the person out of home and study and get into gangs and that kind of things. > Tenth house shows how You teach (see Devata) planets there shows what > sustains/breaks college-step so give proper Upadesa to Your clients based on > that.* > > > 4 What kind of studies can be actually shown by rahu, ketu: Can they play > any role? in todays age when we do most of our learning through internet, > computers? Also rahu ketu are known as planets for radical or futuristic > inventions. Consider some body studying interactive embedded technology, > nanotechnology. What planets wil play role? > > [rafal] Lot depends on signs. Prthvi are more connected to money while > watery to intelectual jobs (they can also give passions in rasi). Rahu can > indicate politics or philosophy also. In my chart I have 9H scorpio with two > lords - one is Mangal with Sani (engineering with construtction that was my > first study which I broke) and Ketu is with Rahu in Cancer in fifth bhava - > my 2nd college is philosophy. Rahu shows independent (3H) eagerness and > stance to get things without help of Guru so beware of students which has > Ra/Sa in 1/5 from Lagna in D1 without AK in kona(s). > > > > 6. do we at any time consider graha aspects in these charts. > > [rafal] Yes, every tool should be used if its a) relevant and b) properly > applied. > > > 7. how would narayana dasha dictate and can change ur course of study. > Imagine a person doing bachelors degree, and the person is running narayan > dasha of the 7th house which denotes the ending to education in certain way > . > > [rafal] Start D24 Narayana dasa from 4L(D1) for apara vidya siddhi's > > 8. Shall post another mail for the questions u asked Michal on my D-24 > Scorpio and Sagitarrius. > Thanks in advance. > Swati > Om gurave namah > > > > > > On 1/10/07, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote: > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > I think I have the lectures you are talking about. > > > > Sorry, there seems to have been some confusion. Your 4th house is > > Aquarius - so... has two lords. These two represent your two schools in > > Jaipur. You mentioned one had some royal affiliation - so I pointed out > > Saturn in Cancer, as it is a combination for royalty. > > > > Two major points that you still have not been able to answer regarding > > Sagitarius Lagna are: > > 1. Why did you not go overseas for your primary level education as > > Jupiter is 4th Lord in the 12th. > > 2. Why do Rahu and Ketu in the 2nd house not end the education. > > > > 9th lord in 10th can give problems, but what kind of problems? Usually > > related to work, ending the education and joining the workforce career - > > 10th house. Or if the 7th house is involved, getting married, or if the > > 12th house is involved going travelling etc. > > > > Sun is photography. But architecture is more Mars don't you think? > > Design is definately Venus. Moon is more caring, nuturing, healing. > > > > What about Moon in badhaksthana from Gemini dasa causing travel? > > > > Respectfully, > > Michal > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > designhologram <healingspaces > > > > > Wednesday, January 10, 2007 12:12:03 PM > > Siddhamsa [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna > > Guru] > > > > *Hare Rama Krsna , > > dear Michal, Gurus and members > > Found some more siddhamsa lectures by Sanjay Rathiji, don't know from > > where i picked them, but are not from atri it seems. they are saved from > > august on my computer. If u need them i can pass those too. The discussion > > on his chart is very interesting . And there are some more points than the > > Atri Audio:) > > I have put some doubts on ur comments and recent addition to my > > listening the new audios. > > > > Yes scorpio seems to be more positive also at the level of phd. and > > directly takes my attention, but delay and problems in 9th house has made > > me more skeptical. my notes in blue > > > > The same school can have many different meanings for all people. > > Someone that was badly bullied there will have different combinations to > > signify their schooling experience. > > First see the planets in the 9th house, then the Lord, and then the > > aspects. In this order we can see the higher education. > > Don�t you think its interesting that your school, represented by the 4th > > lord Saturn, transformed into a University, as it is placed in the 9th > > house? > > No its not my school that turned into college or university. my two > > schools were in jaipur, one being convent girls school , and other being a > > co-ed royal school. infact college is in different city all together. i > > moved from jaipur to ahmedabad , towards slight south west. the college that > > i was studyingis very focused to designwith no other faculties turned into > > deemed university in later years. Also its important to know that the > > bachelors i was going through is five yrs, where first 6 semesters are in > > college, the next semester of six months is job, the next thee semesters are > > in college. Then we have a thesis (which is almost like a phd thesis at > > times, and people)it is this thesis which i delayed in. sometimes i feel i > > am doing phd and gemini Also probably my convocation to this degree wil > > happen in gemini dasha. > > Sagitarius > > Some new views i heard in these new audios was , that the 4th lord > > placemnt shows the seed and final desire to education and 7th lord shows the > > end to formal education till phd level. In this case 4th lord with 7th lord > > in 12th house can be positive sign for abroad possibilities. Also he > > mentions that if 9th lord in 10th can create problem in finishing the > > bachelors. cant the moon aspect from lagna to sun indicate architecture, > > design, photography. i am just considering if we my time was any way right > > as 18:05, than what do i do remedy it. And give me post-grad. 4 yrs delay , > > and my in between working can attribute to its break. Hope this is not the > > case, but are there any positive ends to it? Also i know in soem way family > > has also been reason for certain delay. > > Scorpio > > Delay is Saturn. Always mean nodes. > > So my spiritual education , since it is lord of 3rd house is distracting > > my delay:) > > > > Look at it this way. Does the lord of any house going to another house > > have any significance? It must. What about the Arudhapada of the 2nd > > falling in the 12th house? > > Moon can indicate the public and social things, so it can be something > > like the design of a town, or buildings that have to do with the public like > > halls, meeting places etc. > > Hope i do this, and work around same direction:) i wil be so glad. any > > remedies that i can pursue for the coming dasha, and timing of when i wil > > go. > > Respectfully, > > Swati > > * > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > I never said that Saturn would give rajayoga to you. All I said was > > > that if we were to take Saturn in Cancer as Lagna for one of your schools, > > > then the school would have the charachteristics of some rajyoga ie. be > > > prestigious, royal etc. > > > > > > If Sagitarius was the Lagna then how would you explain design? Lord > > > of the ninth is Sun in Virgo and the 9th is aspected by the nodes. Let us > > > first try to be straight - 9th house is for bachelor level education. > > > > > > Sagitarius > > > Why would the 1st lord going to the 12th give overseas education for > > > masters and not for primary education? Jupiter is also the 4th lord - so > > > don't you think that your first schooling experience (4th house) would have > > > been abroad? > > > > > > Scorpio > > > Instead, look at it this way, 2nd lord of Masters education (Jupiter) > > > is in the 12th from there - so your post-graduate studies will be overseas. > > > Moon is in badhaksthana from Gemini and in the 7th house which also > > > deals with travel - so you have two conspiring to take you abroad in this > > > dasa. > > > > > > So is Sanjay's recent Siddhamsa lecture in English? > > > > > > Looking forward to more of your thoughts. Please have a good look at > > > Scorpio Lagna for the reasons I have given and tell me what you think. > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > Michal > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > healing spaces <healingspaces > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa> > > > Saturday, January 6, 2007 9:06:12 AM > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna > > > Guru] > > > > > > Hare Rama krsna > > > Dear Michal ... > > > Thanks for ur continous posts and interest.. I am learning a lot:) > > > With scorpio 18:00 ..my badhakesh becomes 9th lord moon , while lord > > > of 3rd and 4th saturn placed in 9th gets placed in 9th house badhakstha, so > > > dont know if its rajyoga. For two yrs , saturn has been transitting cancer, > > > and i faced most of my delays in last two yrs, altough i think now with > > > saturn retro transit, will result in submission and finishing of my viva. > > > how will the end be seen for 9th house? it should end is taursu-Aquarius( > > > which antar) dasha itself > > > i am not so good in narayana dasha yet... cant make out what gemini > > > dasha wil bring and also aspect of moon ..moos is also badhakesh.. Also if i > > > pursue post-masters its going to be abraod so i need combination for both:) > > > also what would be the post masters in.. there are no aspects to 2nd house > > > now, so moon is going to decide the specialization course in design? > > > help me to see gemini narayan dasha also. > > > > > > i see more chances of abroad in sagitarius lagna 18:05 . as the 1st > > > lord is in 12th and badhaksthana gemini may start operating now and > > > badhakesh is also in is also in 12th house. however moon has to come into > > > play as it aspects gemini... Also with rahu ketu in 2nd and many aspects it > > > can show many influences on masters degree:) > > > > > > i think i am confused now for my D-24 enough:) > > > > > > For mother ..yes possible we need to go backward for her time > > > too...altough at bachelors level she did sanskrit, and some other subjects > > > also..Specializatio n comes when she does masters..and moon has aspect to > > > 2nd house. venus in 6th debilated ..i dont know... also what about her > > > further pursuits after Ph D, writing books papers...mars in 3rd > > > house..karaka bhava nashao..her younger bro is not there...7th house is > > > afflicted though... > > > > > > Guru Sanjayjis lectures are in English mostly...so u can listen to > > > them... > > > Also sanjayji told the houses 5th , 10th , 3rd, 8th and 1st are for > > > spiritual pursuits and informal learning and finally self-realization. > > > > > > > > > wishes > > > swati > > > Namah Shivaya > > > > > > > > > On 1/5/07, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal <nearmichal >> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > > > Yes, Saturn is the significator for delay. I have asked you before > > > > - what do you think about Gemini dasa approaching? 9th Lord Moon is > > > > aspecting this sign from the 2nd house of post-graduate studies. > > > > If your Mother has studied psychology then perhaps Moon should be in > > > > the 9th house. That would put Shani in the 7th house of Phd, and as Shani > > > > is karaka for the 10th house it would make sense that her studies had the > > > > focus of 'vocation' and the psychology of that as Moon aspects. Shakti yoga > > > > is good if malefics are there, Mars in her case, as the this shows the power > > > > to overcome anger, hatred etc. > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > healing spaces <healingspaces > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa> > > > > Friday, January 5, 2007 8:47:14 AM > > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna > > > > Guru] > > > > > > > > Hare Rama krsna > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > Thanks...Does saturn show delay with rajyoga as well? with this D-24 > > > > when do u see a possibility of post-grad? > > > > My mother is a professor in psychology and has done phd in > > > > vocational psychology. No, i don't think she had any problems in bachelors. > > > > She started working in very early age by 22 after finishing her masters. She > > > > did PhD after her marriage i believe.She got married in May 1974. > > > > what would u say about her father from 9th house? he had parkinsons > > > > for many yrs and suffered a lot. She also has strong shakti yoga in > > > > 7th house involving Ak . So some dischords too. > > > > Swati > > > > Namah shivaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/5/07, Michal Dziwulski < nearmichal <nearmichal >> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > > > > > Shani in Karka gives rajyoga in the 1st or 10th houses. So, if we > > > > > take your 9th house in Siddhamsa and call that the Lagna for one of your > > > > > schools then this combination is present. > > > > > Can you give details about what your Mother studied? Jupiter, > > > > > Rahu and Ketu in Scorpio could give some kind of scientific field like > > > > > radiology or chemistry. Mercury and Rahu in the Navamsa Lagna indicates > > > > > homeopathy. The lord of the 9th is exalted but retrograde - did she have to > > > > > work very hard to complete her bachelor level studies? In the Rasi chart > > > > > Lagna Lord is exalted in the 9th with the 5th lord - I can really believe > > > > > she has a lot of students! > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > There are many schools that have churches, I went to one myself for > > some time. Not every student at the school had Meena in the 4th house of D24 > > I'm sure. There must be other factors. > > > > > > You were born in India but this school that you attended was Catholic > > - is this right? If this is the case then the nodes were clearly dominating > > there giving you foreign influence in your education, Rahu as one lord of > > the 4th house. > > > > > > Then you say the 2nd school had royal association. Royalty does not > > just come from Aries, there are many other factors that can cause this such > > as Atmakaraka, association with Surya etc. What > > > about Shani in Karka? - this gives a very high rajayoga when placed in > > the 1st or 10th house. So maybe somehow it is giving some results here too. > > I'm not sure about this, but I'm just trying to look at it from as many > > angles as possible. > > > > > > If Pisces was your 4th house then the lord going to the 12th house > > could give primary education abroad. If we take Scorpio Lagna then 12th lord > > Venus and Lagnesha Mars are posted in the 7th house of travel, showing that > > there is the possibility of travel for the advanced education, since it > > aspects the 9th house. > > > > > > Also, dasa is there to time the event, the event has to be first seen > > in the chart. Just becasue dasa had changed from pisces to aries doesn't > > necessarily indicate a change. Did you got to a school on a farm just > > becasue the dasa changed to Taurus? And then go to a playground because dasa > > changed to Gemini? Do you see my point. > > > > > > I have not done any work on the D60 chart to be > > > honest. There is just so much to learn isn't there. > > > For your Mother's chart - remember that the nodes break the education > > unless there is the strong association of Jupiter. If there is, then > > education will continue. If you want you can share your mother's chart and > > we can look more. > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > Michal > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > healing spaces healingspaces@ ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nearmichal > > > Wednesday, January 3, 2007 2:43:35 AM > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna > > Guru] > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > Dear Michalji, > > > > > > > > > Hoping to see your valued comments on my last mail about D-24 and D-60 > > . > > > > > > Wishing u a great year ahead > > > > > > Swati > > > > > > Namah Shivaya > > > > > > On 12/31/06, healing spaces < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > healingspaces@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hare Rama krsna : : Om Vyom Vyasadevaya namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Michal, My Guru and learned members... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your valued inputs..it helps me learn Please correct me > > whenever needed. > > > > > Yes Scorpio lagna with time 18:00 makes a lot more sense with many > > more reasons. But changing a lot in D-60 and getting my venus in MKS there > > ..and getting jupiter out of MKS.There is already a spouse curse and > > venus Ak is MKS in rashi, 12th in D-9 and now again MKS in D-60. So lot to > > handle. > > > > > > > > > But some few pointers with sagitarius. > > > > > > The first lord in 12th with mercury shows possibilities of study > > abraod or loosing out on studies.Will > > > > > pisces in 4th house being a dual sign can also give two schools. My > > first school convent Sophia .Pisces indicates a place more peaceful ,ocean > > like with church ...But ya this school at one end had a church inside the > > campus but had a graveyard at back which we could see. > > > > > > The second school was a newly founded school with royal associations > > and name. so Aries. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Explaining the change in capricorn-pisces to capricorn -aries > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For my bachelors degree i moved towards SW of Jaipur city.Okie now > > coming to 9th lord leo in case of sagi, which has no aspects other than > > graha dhristi of rahu ketu ..yes may not show much of the background of my > > studies and campus of architecture and design. Sun as lord would show some > > govt association. this chart also is positive for masters and abroad > > education yet no more than masters with rahu and ketu in 2nd house. But with > > rahu ketu , also problem in completion of masters. > > > > > > > > > With scorpio: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It has many positives apart from getting venus out of MKS in 7th house > > while making Mars MKS. It gets mercury and jupiter in lagna also making me > > intelligent and interested in astrology. With cancer as lord of 9th house, > > it now gets lot many aspects of mars venus, jupiter mercury with rashi > > dhristi and rahu ketu with graha dhristi. > > > > > > By the way in our education we never had exams or written papers at > > all. All we had was juries and submissions, lot of model making, drafting , > > sketching and hard work keeping up late in nights..So what i succeded mostly > > was keeping getting my ideas to jury and teachers , while collecting lot of > > jealousy among the batchmates. > > > Does scorpio give masters and abraod studies? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now a lot changes with D-60 ..the options are again : (Sagi in D-24 > > with taurus in D-60 sarpa amsa rising , Venus in 4th ) or (scorpio in D-24 > > with pisces in D-60, indu amsa rising, venus in 6th ). > > > > > > Some pointers...I have had some accidents with head injury and eye > > afflictions and teeth issues. little problems and differences in home > > enviornment. > > > > > > > > > Rest later after ur valued comments. i have been trying these > > techniques with some other charts ...and getting either very good results or > > not so good . Especially my mothers chart has rahu ketu jupiter in 9th in > > D-24 but she has done PHD and is a professor. Would i rectify her chart too? > > > > > > > > Swati > > > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Shreem mahalakshmai namah : : Namah Shivaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wish u all a great yr ahead and ur family...and may light shine in all > > of us. Bless me with more aparvidya:) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/31/06, Michal Dziwulski nearmichal > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > > > > If we make Scorpio the Lagna for your D24 chart then Aquarius will be > > the 4th house. There are two lords, so you attended two schools. Rahu will > > indicate the school with more of a foreign influence - like a different > > religion, or different social values etc. > > > > > > > > > If Sagitarius is the Lagna then the Sun would be the 9th lord, and, I > > could be wrong, but I don't see how the Sun in Virgo would indicate > > Architecture and Design. Then also the Nodes would be aspecting the 9th > > house by Rasi drsti and putting an end to any further education. And how > > would we explain the top marks you get? > > > > > > > > > We always use mean nodes for natal horoscopes. > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > Michal > > > > > > [ Om Namo > > > Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > healing spaces <healingspaces@ > > > gmail.com> > > > To: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > ; nearmichal > > > Sunday, December 31, 2006 8:41:47 AM > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna > > Guru] > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna, > > > Dear Michal , > > > > > > Sorry that was a mistype where i missed the word. i have not finished > > higher education. > > > i did my schooling from two schools in same town. Shifted from convent > > school to more a royal school in 1993. this was i think during narayana > > dasha shift of cap-pisces to cap-taurus. After my 12th standard, i joined > > this design and architecture 5 yr course away from my home town. > > > > > > > > > So do u see scorpio as my lagna, that would bring my time to 18:00. i > > have tried this rectification before. Wil saturn in 9th suffice for the > > delay that i have faced. > > > > > > > > > Sorry i am confused do we use true nodes option or mean nodes and > > explanation for same.i think i tinkered the default settings. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Swati > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om gurave namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/31/06, Michal Dziwulski > > > nearmichal > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > > > > Having a further look I realised I had missed an important factor. In > > the D24 Narayana dasa of Gemini the 9th lord is strongly aspecting the dasa > > rasi. This is certainly a positive indication for the completion of your > > degree. Sorry for the confusion. > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > Michal > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > Michal Dziwulski nearmichal > > > > To: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > Sunday, December 31, 2006 7:57:48 AM > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: > > > [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > When you say you finished your higher education, what did you study > > before? Currently you are doing architecture and design, but did you study > > anything before this? > > > > > > > > > If we were to move the D24 Lagna to Scorpio then this is how I would > > see it - Jupiter and Mercury with Dig Bala in the first house giving an > > excellent student - remember Lagna in any divisional chart is you. 9th house > > has retrograde Shani showing delays in the completion of these studies. 9th > > Lord going to 2nd house showing that these studies will have to lead to post > > graduate pursuits. Architecture requires a lot of understanding of > > engineering and is very logical, whereas design is more artistic - and here > > we > > > would have the combination of Mars (Lagnesha) and Venus aspecting the > > 9th house. That duo in the Lagna also aspects the 9th house which would > > explain all those high marks. > > > > > > If we take Narayana Dasa of D24 chart you will see that Taurus dasa > > has been running from 1995 to the present and is nearly over. Taurus houses > > the combination of Mars and Venus that aspects your 9th house. What do you > > think about Gemini dasa coming up next? It is the 8th house, and its lord is > > conjoined the 5th lord in Lagna. The 5th house is concerned with > > spirituality, and the 4th from there (8th house) is the learning of the > > same. So maybe you might be taking a break from your studies to pursue > > something more spiritual. No doubt you will be thinking a lot about > > post-grad, since Jupiter is lord of the 2nd, but you can't go on to that > > until you complete 9th house first. > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > Michal > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > healing spaces <healingspaces@ gmail.com> > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > Saturday, December 30, 2006 2:09:19 PM > > > > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna > > Guru] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama krsna > > > Dear Michal, > > > > > > > > > Its always great to gather inputs from all on a great forum like this > > ... And i must congratulate YOU that u caught a great nerve that is > > troubling me in my life. I have finished my higher education. Further i > > joined a > > > five yr BACHELORS course in architecture and design. My first 9 > > semesters had me being topping in all subjects, which created lots of > > jealousy around me.. Moreover i was having a lot of family troubles at the > > background,which still continue. My tenth semster which includes writing a > > thesis , has gone for a long stretch after this and yes i have still not > > completed it. it still has to go through last stages of submission and viva, > > as i can never leave a > > > hope.I have not failed yet but it has delayed for more than 4 yrs. The > > delay has occured due to my perfectionist attitude, my lost ability to > > overcome situations, lost relationships and the overarching family issues. > > In mean time yes i have started freelancing and sustaining myself > > financially, yet i would not say i am settled in career. > > > > > > Sharing all this information, for study purposes. U could comment of > > birth rectification. I have gone over trying to rectify but never succeded. > > > > > > > > > Would love to know when will i finish and get my degree in hand? Are > > there any remedies particularly for > > > same.Still a HOPE to pursue post-grad. Any HOPE? or possibility of > > working abroad? > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swati > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/30/06, Michal Dziwulski < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nearmichal > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > Hope you don't mind my input. In your D24 chart Rahu and Ketu occupy > > the 2nd house which is seen for post graduate study ie. Masters, Honours. > > This can be overcome if a strong Jupiter associates, as he will want you to > > continue learning. Has your chart been rectified? Also 9th lord Sun going to > > the 10th house would indicate an end to bachelor level education and > > entering into work. Rahu and Ketu are the only other planets aspecting the > > 9th house. Did you complete your higher education? If you did then maybe the > > Lagna has to be shifted. Please share your experience for the purpose of > > learning. > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > Michal > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > healing spaces healingspaces@ ... > > > To: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > Friday, December 29, 2006 1:01:08 PM > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna > > Guru] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krsna > > > > > > Pranam Sweeji, > > > > > > > > > No > > > i am not married yet ...Altough i have had a past relationship. And am > > > > > not planning to get married yet .. Want to go abraod and pursue > > post-grad and > > > research in design and architecture. Don't know if this is possible. > > > > > > > > > u > > > mentioned badhakesh period till 2012 . i think later to that even i > > > will be running badhaksthan pisces chara dasha till 2020. When do u > > > forsee marriage ? > > > > > > 'Demented quite, I must have been if I did not suggest Pearl as an > > upaya. Tis not for you to adorn.' > > > Did u mean this is MUST for me.. ?What about emerald ? > > > > > > > > > Swati > > > > > > > > > Om gurave namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/29/06, > > > Swee Chan sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > > > > > Demented quite, I must have been if I did not suggest Pearl as an > > upaya. Tis not for you to adorn. Badhakesh period extends to 2012 > > > > > > Challenges in area of spousal affairs. Are you married yet? If so, > > wouldn't you wish upon a star that he'd be a cutting edge more spiritual? > > > > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > > > > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/28/06 10:11 PM, "healing spaces" <healingspaces@ gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > > > Pranam Sweeji, and members > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the birth details > > > > > > Date 15th april 1979 > > > > > > time 18: 05 > > > > > > place jaipur city , rajasthan 75 E 49 26 N 55 > > > > > > Definitely shall figure out on my own about which audio it was > > ..:)Shall look forward for the worthy discussions. on pointers like kevala > > mahyogada, vaiseshikamsa and other discourses. > > > > > > gemstones and physical holdings always carry a fancy ...and more > > positive feeling of holding. > > > > > > > > > > > > Wishes > > > > > > Swati > > > > > > Namah Shivya : Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/28/06, Swee Chan sweechan@mac . com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you give your deets again? Sorry, can't seem to find the time > > (without disturbance) to listen to the mp3's including the ones I've bought > > :| > > > > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > > > > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/28/06 12:19 PM, "healing spaces" <healingspaces@ gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://gmail. com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama krsna > > > > > > Dear Sweeji, > > > > > > Are u talking about Narshimaji books that contains information on > > yogada and vaiseshika. I still have to pick up that book. Do u know which > > audio contains the details. > > > > > > In my chart mars and mercury form kevala mahayogada, would they turn > > beneficiary for me ..or still remain dhrita badhak and problem creators. > > > > > > In vaiseshikamsa i have sun with high strength and exalted in many > > divisional charts ...but is functional malefic for my chart and also in > > gandhta. > > > > > > u had prescribed me pearl seeing the rising ascendant hasta nakshatra > > and also acc to dwisaptati dasha. while for emerald u see sometimes the best > > remedies is to initiate the debilated planet... > > > > > > Now Anuj ji with suggests citrine with his conclusions. Vistiji > > recommends no stones.. > > > > > > It wil be good if i compile it all together for study purpose..... and > > we could reach some lasting conclusions. .Wishing my Guru is around..and > > would enrich this discussion.. > > > > > > Lastly i am seeign this as more a learning process.. as i really dont > > see myself making any investments in near future, until it costs me > > less.Just for curosity sake.. Bharat ji what do the yantras cost ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Swati > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/28/06, swami swami_rcs > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > II Om Gurave Namah II > > > > > > Hari om , Friend, > > > > > > Dear Sarvashree swee and Anuj, > > > > > > Thanks to both of you.In light of hint from Swee and analysis > > > > > > of Swati chart, based on concept by Anuj ,if combined: I understand > > > > > > we can check prescription of Gems in critical cases. In fact Swati > > > > > > chart and her wearing of Gems case is interesting for , it breeds > > ground > > > > > > for correct application of this small segment of Vedic knowledge. > > > > > > By the way concept of Yogi and Avayogi may be a part of Achyut > > > > > > parampara, since during Panchang lecture Pt Sanjay has asked his > > > > > > students to work out Yoga point and other details , that he promised > > to > > > > > > discuss next time. > > > > > > Concept of Yoga avyoga is well adopted in west and Late sh.H.R Shanker > > > > > > > > has also written about it in Astrological Magazine .Jyotish tool , > > > > > > Digital jyotish,Astroloka etc are good software and DJ is excellent to > > give > > > > > > a fair trial to Teachings of Sh.H.R.S.Iyer' s work. > > > > > > I feel in spite of differences we should continue to share knowledge. > > > > > > Lastly i thank both of you and Visti and of course Swati who has > > permitted > > > > > > discussion on her chart on open forum. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarve Bhavantu Sukhinah > > > > > > Sarve Santu Niramaya > > > > > > Sarve Bhadrani Pasyantu > > > > > > Ma Kashchid Dukh Bhaag Bhaveit > > > > > > HARI OM TATSAT > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- > > > > > > R.C.Srivastava > > > > > > For Consultation -Service > > > > > > E-mail : swami_rcs > > > > > > > > > > > > 199,MMIG "Guru Kripa" > > > > > > Shaheed Nagar. 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Guest guest Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Swati, Saturn in Cancer in 1st or 10th houses doesn't give Rajyoga? What about the charts of Indira Ghandi and George Bush? Also, have you thought about starting Narayana Dasa of D24 chart from the 4th house of formal education. This will be different to the one you are using which starts from the 12th house. Respectfully, Michal [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] healing spaces <healingspaces > Friday, January 12, 2007 6:58:40 PM Re: Siddhamsa [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Dear Michalji, Rafalji, and other learned memebers thanks Rafalji for delving with my questions... And michalji for getting into minute details to see the d-24. here are the answers to what u asked. Please correct me where i went wrong and also i have written some questions . Here are some more doubts..and a brief analysis of my D-24 chart 15th april 1979 , place jaipur city ( 75 E 49 , 26 N 55) Option 1. Sagitarius as lagna in D-24 (Recorded time 18:05) Moon in 1st house, with lot of attention to education. Also my mothers attention in my education as she herself is in education field. 1st lord and 4th lord Jupiter in 12th with 7th and 10th lord. A desire, motivation objective, to go till Ph D level in a abroad place altough with . fourth lord in 12th necessarliy may not mean formal school education studies abraod, but the objective as being the karyesh lord. Also 4th lord , dont know if i can see mother from this, but Jupiter as lord shows her excelence as professor. jupiter mercury have planetary aspects by venus and mars, rings a bell of influence of Ak and design, art architecture, adding to my intellectual base. i was running taurus dasha when i started my design course. Also rashi aspect of rahu ketu, saturn to the 1st and 4th lord, showing delays and struggles throughout. Now coming to formal education. 4th lord is dual sign so can indicate a change altough its placed in fixed rashi , so doesnt bring a shift in place. the first school was convent, foreign influence and all girls school joined in virgo narayan dasha. the second school was a school with little royal association s and a co-ed. the change happened when i was in capricorn -pisces dasha .Pisces is my 4th house here so a time to alter. this happened in 1993 Taurus Dasha, starts in 1995. have placement of venus and mars, took science as subjects, but was very sure that i want to do architecture and design , so unlike other students in my class, was not very interested in IIT. taurus -scorpio dasha i joined my 5yrs course in interior architecture in ahmedabad. Change of place to south west. Here come the question ? Can the 9th lord sun in 10th house with rashi aspect of moon, be sufficeint to give me education in design architecture, interiors, furniture. Well to an extant sun and moon are the two sides of coin, of the abstract and the concrete, and i always work with these layers, when i design . The running taurus dasha with venus and mars there could be a strong infulence to add the visual beauty to it. Rahu ketu aspect the 9th house with rashi dhriti so somm foriegn influences strongly, knowing that we .saturn aspects the 10th house which is the sustainer and the marak house to my bachelors degree. saturn is also transiting cancer since two yrs, and has given me delay. 9th lord in 10th Sun could also mean i got involved in doing jobs, or there were felt obstructions from family as sun and moon are strongly influencing the 10th house. So there are invariably enough indications of problems at the bachelors level. How does one see this when will this end? What is the role of saturn® and sun here in delay and sustainence? in my rashi chart the saturn is in leo, while here it is in cancer? Now if i finish and get a degree are there chances of post grad? Will education end at bachelors due to rahu ketu aspect to 9th? 2 house has rahu, ketu, so strong influence of foreign .2nd lord capricorn is aspected by saturn graha dhristi. in terms of rashi dhristi there are aspects of jupiter, merc, mars, venus. So the house is strong. i wil be going into gemini dasha soon, which is aspected by sun and moon placed in kendra.. Gemini is also badhaksthana. Option 2. Scorpio as lagna in D24 (18:00) Jupiter and mercury in 1st house , good intelligence with digbal. Mars as lagna lord with venus in 7th house, motivation again coloured by art design , architecture, with planetary aspects of jupiter , mercury . 4th house rashi is aquarius, co-lorded by rahu in 2nd in capricorn and saturn in 9th in cancer rashi . Could show two schools. The first school , with different religion as i was in convent school, and second with traditional orthodox name setup. Saturn in cancer in 1st and 10th , as told by my Guru, doesnt confer rajyoga ,saturn is nothing like royal, infact could mean questionable birth. Well Sawai Man Singh to jaipur is royal, i would like to believe and this school was founded by Gayatri Devi. Moreover 4th lord in 9th house, can show relation between my initial study continues at the bachelors level. 9th lord in 2nd can show continuation of bachelors into masters. 2nd lord in 1st house with aspect of 7th lord venus , can even show masters if dasha allows. 9th house being badhaksthana and deposited with saturn , can be the reason of delay. Also considerably a bachelors course is three yrs, while our campus has it for 5 and half yrs. Now 10th lord is sun, and the tenth is house is marak and sustainer, there is again a rahu ketu rashi aspect to the sustaining house, with none other. How is this different from rahu ketu aspect to 9th house of bachelors education as seen in scorpio lagna vs the 10th house aspect? Also saturn is 8th to moon , and saturn was kantaka sani for the varga chart as it was transiting cancer since last two yrs, So could have been the cause of delay . the delay and probelms to 9th house education should be seen from 9th house itself or specifically the tenth ? In sagitarius lagna saturn aspects the 10th house where 9th lord sun is sitting. In scorpio lagna saturn is sitting in cancer 9th house itself badhaksthana . What are the possibilites of post-grad education in this scorpio lagna , when the sustainence house has rahu ketu sitting there. also does this indicate post grad abraod? 9th lord moon is sitting in 2nd house , and 2nd lord jupiter is sitting in lagna . Rahu ketu in the sustanence house. with the coming gemini dasha being 8th house , would it give post grad? Please look at these two different options. I have yet not got my bachelors degree in hand. Until i do that masters is impossible. Which chart looks right and what are the chances in each case to continue in post-grad. swati namah shivaya On 1/10/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: hraum namah adityaya Dear Swati, Namaskar! Please find my comments below. Hopefully red is agni..forget me wednesday! Regards Rafal Gendarz - healing spaces ; sohamsa@ .com ; nearmichal ; paramaguru@gro ups.com Wednesday, January 10, 2007 7:06 AM Re: Siddhamsa [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Hare Rama Krsna : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah Dear Michal, Gurus and members Sanjayji's lectures on Siddhamsa are wonderful and i wil like to thank him for he wonderful resources provided by him for learning. i remember my first discussion with my guru was also in d-24. I am learning so much through this discussion Michal ji . Even trying to apply it on the charts of my known ones and friends from campus. Altough here are some basic Some doubts on D-24, Please help me through them. 1. What will the significant things that come in play when 1st house placements are rahu ketu. [rafal] As Nodes afflicts Akasha Tattwa it usually gives bad education or lack of inspiration to learn. It should be confirmed with Jupiter position. Jupiter in D9 shows how one learns through God help, D24 how one learns in area or for para-/apara siddhi. Nodes shows also ending point of education and this should be studied with 4L - goal which one would like to reach in educational spheres of life. Lagna is Brahma-sthana where one is awaken to create new possibilites therefore kendra to Lagna in Padakrama Dasa (southern name) shows new beginings to You while Kendra to Surya shows new begining to outside resources..Lagna in every Varga shows fame and attitude related to that area therefore Sani in D20-Ascendent give sadness in spiritual matters. Rahu will give too much thinking while Ketu overconfidence. 2. How would one proceed when rahu ketu are in 4th house. does it mean problems or end at formal education. how would it differ from rahu ketu rashi dhristi aspect to the 4th house. How would it differ from graha drishti aspect. And in what conditions does it allow forward movement in education [rafal] Forth bhava is Ganesha sthana where education begins. Therefore kids in Gurukula's pray to Ganapati. It has to do with Prhtvi Tattwa and Muladhara chakra. Forth bhava is karyabhava here and malefics there are very bad. Person can have good attitude (Lagna0 but events / situation can make Him sad and discouraged (argala). If malefics are in forth, lordship of that sthana will show cause (Surya (karaka of dispositor) - creator) and independently forth lord shows objective while Lagnesh shows what motivate You to start.. Do You catch the difference? 3. 5th house or 10th house are marak houses to formal education and bachelors education. What will rahu ketu placements do in marak houses placements. [rafal] Fifth is root of paravidya science and it fruits(11) are seen by hearing properly guru upadesa and initating good and peaceful (not himsa - benefic in third and without obstacles - aspects 9H) methods to get things done. Fifth in D24 also shows hobbies and for example I have nodes there which shows dabbling with Jyotish. Mangal and Ketu (papargal on enemy of karaka of 4h) in 5H shows mind filled with too much extravertism which put the person out of home and study and get into gangs and that kind of things. Tenth house shows how You teach (see Devata) planets there shows what sustains/breaks college-step so give proper Upadesa to Your clients based on that. 4 What kind of studies can be actually shown by rahu, ketu: Can they play any role? in todays age when we do most of our learning through internet, computers? Also rahu ketu are known as planets for radical or futuristic inventions. Consider some body studying interactive embedded technology, nanotechnology. What planets wil play role? [rafal] Lot depends on signs. Prthvi are more connected to money while watery to intelectual jobs (they can also give passions in rasi). Rahu can indicate politics or philosophy also. In my chart I have 9H scorpio with two lords - one is Mangal with Sani (engineering with construtction that was my first study which I broke) and Ketu is with Rahu in Cancer in fifth bhava - my 2nd college is philosophy. Rahu shows independent (3H) eagerness and stance to get things without help of Guru so beware of students which has Ra/Sa in 1/5 from Lagna in D1 without AK in kona(s). 6. do we at any time consider graha aspects in these charts. [rafal] Yes, every tool should be used if its a) relevant and b) properly applied. 7. how would narayana dasha dictate and can change ur course of study. Imagine a person doing bachelors degree, and the person is running narayan dasha of the 7th house which denotes the ending to education in certain way . [rafal] Start D24 Narayana dasa from 4L(D1) for apara vidya siddhi's 8. Shall post another mail for the questions u asked Michal on my D-24 Scorpio and Sagitarrius. Thanks in advance. Swati Om gurave namah On 1/10/07, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote: [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Swati, I think I have the lectures you are talking about. Sorry, there seems to have been some confusion. Your 4th house is Aquarius - so... has two lords. These two represent your two schools in Jaipur. You mentioned one had some royal affiliation - so I pointed out Saturn in Cancer, as it is a combination for royalty. Two major points that you still have not been able to answer regarding Sagitarius Lagna are: 1. Why did you not go overseas for your primary level education as Jupiter is 4th Lord in the 12th. 2. Why do Rahu and Ketu in the 2nd house not end the education. 9th lord in 10th can give problems, but what kind of problems? Usually related to work, ending the education and joining the workforce career - 10th house. Or if the 7th house is involved, getting married, or if the 12th house is involved going travelling etc. Sun is photography. But architecture is more Mars don't you think? Design is definately Venus. Moon is more caring, nuturing, healing. What about Moon in badhaksthana from Gemini dasa causing travel? Respectfully, Michal [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] ----- Original Message ---- designhologram <healingspaces > Wednesday, January 10, 2007 12:12:03 PM Siddhamsa [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Hare Rama Krsna , dear Michal, Gurus and members Found some more siddhamsa lectures by Sanjay Rathiji, don't know from where i picked them, but are not from atri it seems. they are saved from august on my computer. If u need them i can pass those too. The discussion on his chart is very interesting . And there are some more points than the Atri Audio:) I have put some doubts on ur comments and recent addition to my listening the new audios. Yes scorpio seems to be more positive also at the level of phd. and directly takes my attention, but delay and problems in 9th house has made me more skeptical. my notes in blue The same school can have many different meanings for all people. Someone that was badly bullied there will have different combinations to signify their schooling experience. First see the planets in the 9th house, then the Lord, and then the aspects. In this order we can see the higher education. Don�t you think its interesting that your school, represented by the 4th lord Saturn, transformed into a University, as it is placed in the 9th house? No its not my school that turned into college or university. my two schools were in jaipur, one being convent girls school , and other being a co-ed royal school. infact college is in different city all together. i moved from jaipur to ahmedabad , towards slight south west. the college that i was studyingis very focused to designwith no other faculties turned into deemed university in later years. Also its important to know that the bachelors i was going through is five yrs, where first 6 semesters are in college, the next semester of six months is job, the next thee semesters are in college. Then we have a thesis (which is almost like a phd thesis at times, and people)it is this thesis which i delayed in. sometimes i feel i am doing phd and gemini Also probably my convocation to this degree wil happen in gemini dasha. Sagitarius Some new views i heard in these new audios was , that the 4th lord placemnt shows the seed and final desire to education and 7th lord shows the end to formal education till phd level. In this case 4th lord with 7th lord in 12th house can be positive sign for abroad possibilities. Also he mentions that if 9th lord in 10th can create problem in finishing the bachelors. cant the moon aspect from lagna to sun indicate architecture, design, photography. i am just considering if we my time was any way right as 18:05, than what do i do remedy it. And give me post-grad. 4 yrs delay , and my in between working can attribute to its break. Hope this is not the case, but are there any positive ends to it? Also i know in soem way family has also been reason for certain delay. Scorpio Delay is Saturn. Always mean nodes. So my spiritual education , since it is lord of 3rd house is distracting my delay:) Look at it this way. Does the lord of any house going to another house have any significance? It must. What about the Arudhapada of the 2nd falling in the 12th house? Moon can indicate the public and social things, so it can be something like the design of a town, or buildings that have to do with the public like halls, meeting places etc. Hope i do this, and work around same direction:) i wil be so glad. any remedies that i can pursue for the coming dasha, and timing of when i wil go. Respectfully, Swati [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Swati, I never said that Saturn would give rajayoga to you. All I said was that if we were to take Saturn in Cancer as Lagna for one of your schools, then the school would have the charachteristics of some rajyoga ie. be prestigious, royal etc. If Sagitarius was the Lagna then how would you explain design? Lord of the ninth is Sun in Virgo and the 9th is aspected by the nodes. Let us first try to be straight - 9th house is for bachelor level education. Sagitarius Why would the 1st lord going to the 12th give overseas education for masters and not for primary education? Jupiter is also the 4th lord - so don't you think that your first schooling experience (4th house) would have been abroad? Scorpio Instead, look at it this way, 2nd lord of Masters education (Jupiter) is in the 12th from there - so your post-graduate studies will be overseas. Moon is in badhaksthana from Gemini and in the 7th house which also deals with travel - so you have two conspiring to take you abroad in this dasa. So is Sanjay's recent Siddhamsa lecture in English? Looking forward to more of your thoughts. Please have a good look at Scorpio Lagna for the reasons I have given and tell me what you think. Respectfully, Michal [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] ----- Original Message ---- healing spaces <healingspaces > sohamsa@ .com Saturday, January 6, 2007 9:06:12 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Hare Rama krsna Dear Michal ... Thanks for ur continous posts and interest.. I am learning a lot:) With scorpio 18:00 ..my badhakesh becomes 9th lord moon , while lord of 3rd and 4th saturn placed in 9th gets placed in 9th house badhakstha, so dont know if its rajyoga. For two yrs , saturn has been transitting cancer, and i faced most of my delays in last two yrs, altough i think now with saturn retro transit, will result in submission and finishing of my viva. how will the end be seen for 9th house? it should end is taursu-Aquarius( which antar) dasha itself i am not so good in narayana dasha yet... cant make out what gemini dasha wil bring and also aspect of moon ..moos is also badhakesh.. Also if i pursue post-masters its going to be abraod so i need combination for both:) also what would be the post masters in.. there are no aspects to 2nd house now, so moon is going to decide the specialization course in design? help me to see gemini narayan dasha also. i see more chances of abroad in sagitarius lagna 18:05 . as the 1st lord is in 12th and badhaksthana gemini may start operating now and badhakesh is also in is also in 12th house. however moon has to come into play as it aspects gemini... Also with rahu ketu in 2nd and many aspects it can show many influences on masters degree:) i think i am confused now for my D-24 enough:) For mother ..yes possible we need to go backward for her time too...altough at bachelors level she did sanskrit, and some other subjects also..Specializatio n comes when she does masters..and moon has aspect to 2nd house. venus in 6th debilated ..i dont know... also what about her further pursuits after Ph D, writing books papers...mars in 3rd house..karaka bhava nashao..her younger bro is not there...7th house is afflicted though... Guru Sanjayjis lectures are in English mostly...so u can listen to them... Also sanjayji told the houses 5th , 10th , 3rd, 8th and 1st are for spiritual pursuits and informal learning and finally self-realization. wishes swati Namah Shivaya On 1/5/07, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote: [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Swati, Yes, Saturn is the significator for delay. I have asked you before - what do you think about Gemini dasa approaching? 9th Lord Moon is aspecting this sign from the 2nd house of post-graduate studies. If your Mother has studied psychology then perhaps Moon should be in the 9th house. That would put Shani in the 7th house of Phd, and as Shani is karaka for the 10th house it would make sense that her studies had the focus of 'vocation' and the psychology of that as Moon aspects. Shakti yoga is good if malefics are there, Mars in her case, as the this shows the power to overcome anger, hatred etc. Respectfully, Michal [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] ----- Original Message ---- healing spaces <healingspaces > sohamsa@ .com Friday, January 5, 2007 8:47:14 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Hare Rama krsna Dear Michal, Thanks...Does saturn show delay with rajyoga as well? with this D-24 when do u see a possibility of post-grad? My mother is a professor in psychology and has done phd in vocational psychology. No, i don't think she had any problems in bachelors. She started working in very early age by 22 after finishing her masters. She did PhD after her marriage i believe.She got married in May 1974. what would u say about her father from 9th house? he had parkinsons for many yrs and suffered a lot. She also has strong shakti yoga in 7th house involving Ak . So some dischords too. Swati Namah shivaya On 1/5/07, Michal Dziwulski < nearmichal > wrote: [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Swati, Shani in Karka gives rajyoga in the 1st or 10th houses. So, if we take your 9th house in Siddhamsa and call that the Lagna for one of your schools then this combination is present. Can you give details about what your Mother studied? Jupiter, Rahu and Ketu in Scorpio could give some kind of scientific field like radiology or chemistry. Mercury and Rahu in the Navamsa Lagna indicates homeopathy. The lord of the 9th is exalted but retrograde - did she have to work very hard to complete her bachelor level studies? In the Rasi chart Lagna Lord is exalted in the 9th with the 5th lord - I can really believe she has a lot of students! Respectfully, > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Swati, > > There are many schools that have churches, I went to one myself for some time. Not every student at the school had Meena in the 4th house of D24 I'm sure. There must be other factors. > > You were born in India but this school that you attended was Catholic - is this right? If this is the case then the nodes were clearly dominating there giving you foreign influence in your education, Rahu as one lord of the 4th house. > > Then you say the 2nd school had royal association. Royalty does not just come from Aries, there are many other factors that can cause this such as Atmakaraka, association with Surya etc. What > about Shani in Karka? - this gives a very high rajayoga when placed in the 1st or 10th house. So maybe somehow it is giving some results here too. I'm not sure about this, but I'm just trying to look at it from as many angles as possible. > > If Pisces was your 4th house then the lord going to the 12th house could give primary education abroad. If we take Scorpio Lagna then 12th lord Venus and Lagnesha Mars are posted in the 7th house of travel, showing that there is the possibility of travel for the advanced education, since it aspects the 9th house. > > Also, dasa is there to time the event, the event has to be first seen in the chart. Just becasue dasa had changed from pisces to aries doesn't necessarily indicate a change. Did you got to a school on a farm just becasue the dasa changed to Taurus? And then go to a playground because dasa changed to Gemini? Do you see my point. > > I have not done any work on the D60 chart to be > honest. There is just so much to learn isn't there. > For your Mother's chart - remember that the nodes break the education unless there is the strong association of Jupiter. If there is, then education will continue. If you want you can share your mother's chart and we can look more. > > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > healing spaces healingspaces@ ... > > > > > > nearmichal > Wednesday, January 3, 2007 2:43:35 AM > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > Dear Michalji, > > > Hoping to see your valued comments on my last mail about D-24 and D-60 . > > Wishing u a great year ahead > > Swati > > Namah Shivaya > > On 12/31/06, healing spaces < > > > > > > healingspaces@ gmail.com> wrote: > Hare Rama krsna : : Om Vyom Vyasadevaya namah > > > > > > > > > Dear Michal, My Guru and learned members... > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your valued inputs..it helps me learn Please correct me whenever needed. > Yes Scorpio lagna with time 18:00 makes a lot more sense with many more reasons. But changing a lot in D-60 and getting my venus in MKS there ..and getting jupiter out of MKS.There is already a spouse curse and venus Ak is MKS in rashi, 12th in D-9 and now again MKS in D-60. So lot to handle. > > > But some few pointers with sagitarius. > > The first lord in 12th with mercury shows possibilities of study abraod or loosing out on studies.Will > pisces in 4th house being a dual sign can also give two schools. My first school convent Sophia .Pisces indicates a place more peaceful ,ocean like with church ...But ya this school at one end had a church inside the campus but had a graveyard at back which we could see.. > > The second school was a newly founded school with royal associations and name. so Aries. > > > > > > > > > Explaining the change in capricorn-pisces to capricorn -aries > > > > > > > > > > For my bachelors degree i moved towards SW of Jaipur city.Okie now coming to 9th lord leo in case of sagi, which has no aspects other than graha dhristi of rahu ketu ..yes may not show much of the background of my studies and campus of architecture and design. Sun as lord would show some govt association. this chart also is positive for masters and abroad education yet no more than masters with rahu and ketu in 2nd house. But with rahu ketu , also problem in completion of masters. > > > With scorpio: > > > > > > > > > It has many positives apart from getting venus out of MKS in 7th house while making Mars MKS. It gets mercury and jupiter in lagna also making me intelligent and interested in astrology. With cancer as lord of 9th house, it now gets lot many aspects of mars venus, jupiter mercury with rashi dhristi and rahu ketu with graha dhristi. > > By the way in our education we never had exams or written papers at all. All we had was juries and submissions, lot of model making, drafting , sketching and hard work keeping up late in nights..So what i succeded mostly was keeping getting my ideas to jury and teachers , while collecting lot of jealousy among the batchmates. > Does scorpio give masters and abraod studies? > > > > > > > > > > Now a lot changes with D-60 ..the options are again : (Sagi in D-24 with taurus in D-60 sarpa amsa rising , Venus in 4th ) or (scorpio in D-24 with pisces in D-60, indu amsa rising, venus in 6th ). > > Some pointers...I have had some accidents with head injury and eye afflictions and teeth issues. little problems and differences in home enviornment. > > > Rest later after ur valued comments. i have been trying these techniques with some other charts ....and getting either very good results or not so good . Especially my mothers chart has rahu ketu jupiter in 9th in D-24 but she has done PHD and is a professor. Would i rectify her chart too? > > Swati > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Shreem mahalakshmai namah : : Namah Shivaya > > > > > > > > > Wish u all a great yr ahead and ur family...and may light shine in all of us.. Bless me with more aparvidya:) > > > > > > > > > > On 12/31/06, Michal Dziwulski nearmichal > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Swati, > > > If we make Scorpio the Lagna for your D24 chart then Aquarius will be the 4th house. There are two lords, so you attended two schools. Rahu will indicate the school with more of a foreign influence - like a different religion, or different social values etc. > > > If Sagitarius is the Lagna then the Sun would be the 9th lord, and, I could be wrong, but I don't see how the Sun in Virgo would indicate Architecture and Design. Then also the Nodes would be aspecting the 9th house by Rasi drsti and putting an end to any further education. And how would we explain the top marks you get? > > > We always use mean nodes for natal horoscopes. > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo > Narayanaya ] > > ----- Original Message ---- > healing spaces <healingspaces@ > gmail.com> > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > ; nearmichal > Sunday, December 31, 2006 8:41:47 AM > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > Hare Rama Krsna, > Dear Michal , > > Sorry that was a mistype where i missed the word. i have not finished higher education. > i did my schooling from two schools in same town. Shifted from convent school to more a royal school in 1993. this was i think during narayana dasha shift of cap-pisces to cap-taurus. After my 12th standard, i joined this design and architecture 5 yr course away from my home town. > > > So do u see scorpio as my lagna, that would bring my time to 18:00. i have tried this rectification before. Wil saturn in 9th suffice for the delay that i have faced. > > > Sorry i am confused do we use true nodes option or mean nodes and explanation for same.i think i tinkered the default settings. > > Thanks > Swati > > > > > > > > > > Om gurave namah > > > > > On 12/31/06, Michal Dziwulski > nearmichal > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Swati, > > > Having a further look I realised I had missed an important factor. In the D24 Narayana dasa of Gemini the 9th lord is strongly aspecting the dasa rasi. This is certainly a positive indication for the completion of your degree. Sorry for the confusion. > > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > Michal Dziwulski nearmichal > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > Sunday, December 31, 2006 7:57:48 AM > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: > [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Swati, > > When you say you finished your higher education, what did you study before? Currently you are doing architecture and design, but did you study anything before this? > > > If we were to move the D24 Lagna to Scorpio then this is how I would see it - Jupiter and Mercury with Dig Bala in the first house giving an excellent student - remember Lagna in any divisional chart is you. 9th house has retrograde Shani showing delays in the completion of these studies. 9th Lord going to 2nd house showing that these studies will have to lead to post graduate pursuits. Architecture requires a lot of understanding of engineering and is very logical, whereas design is more artistic - and here we > would have the combination of Mars (Lagnesha) and Venus aspecting the 9th house. That duo in the Lagna also aspects the 9th house which would explain all those high marks. > > If we take Narayana Dasa of D24 chart you will see that Taurus dasa has been running from 1995 to the present and is nearly over. Taurus houses the combination of Mars and Venus that aspects your 9th house. What do you think about Gemini dasa coming up next? It is the 8th house, and its lord is conjoined the 5th lord in Lagna. The 5th house is concerned with spirituality, and the 4th from there (8th house) is the learning of the same. So maybe you might be taking a break from your studies to pursue something more spiritual. No doubt you will be thinking a lot about post-grad, since Jupiter is lord of the 2nd, but you can't go on to that until you complete 9th house first.. > > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > healing spaces <healingspaces@ gmail.com> > sohamsa@ .com > Saturday, December 30, 2006 2:09:19 PM > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama krsna > Dear Michal, > > > Its always great to gather inputs from all on a great forum like this ... And i must congratulate YOU that u caught a great nerve that is troubling me in my life. I have finished my higher education. Further i joined a > five yr BACHELORS course in architecture and design. My first 9 semesters had me being topping in all subjects, which created lots of jealousy around me... Moreover i was having a lot of family troubles at the background,which still continue. My tenth semster which includes writing a thesis , has gone for a long stretch after this and yes i have still not completed it. it still has to go through last stages of submission and viva, as i can never leave a > hope.I have not failed yet but it has delayed for more than 4 yrs. The delay has occured due to my perfectionist attitude, my lost ability to overcome situations, lost relationships and the overarching family issues. In mean time yes i have started freelancing and sustaining myself financially, yet i would not say i am settled in career. > > Sharing all this information, for study purposes. U could comment of birth rectification. I have gone over trying to rectify but never succeded. > > > Would love to know when will i finish and get my degree in hand? Are there any remedies particularly for > same.Still a HOPE to pursue post-grad. Any HOPE? or possibility of working abroad? > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > Swati > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/30/06, Michal Dziwulski < > > > > > > > > > nearmichal > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Swati, > > Hope you don't mind my input. In your D24 chart Rahu and Ketu occupy the 2nd house which is seen for post graduate study ie. Masters, Honours. This can be overcome if a strong Jupiter associates, as he will want you to continue learning. Has your chart been rectified? Also 9th lord Sun going to the 10th house would indicate an end to bachelor level education and entering into work. Rahu and Ketu are the only other planets aspecting the 9th house. Did you complete your higher education? If you did then maybe the Lagna has to be shifted. Please share your experience for the purpose of learning. > > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > ----- Original Message ---- > > healing spaces healingspaces@ ... > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > Friday, December 29, 2006 1:01:08 PM > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krsna > > Pranam Sweeji, > > > No > i am not married yet ...Altough i have had a past relationship. And am > not planning to get married yet .. Want to go abraod and pursue post-grad and > research in design and architecture. Don't know if this is possible. > > > u > mentioned badhakesh period till 2012 . i think later to that even i > will be running badhaksthan pisces chara dasha till 2020. When do u > forsee marriage ? > > 'Demented quite, I must have been if I did not suggest Pearl as an upaya. Tis not for you to adorn.' > Did u mean this is MUST for me.. ?What about emerald ? > > > Swati > > > Om gurave namah > > > > > > > On 12/29/06, > Swee Chan sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Swati, > > Namaste > > > > Demented quite, I must have been if I did not suggest Pearl as an upaya. Tis not for you to adorn. Badhakesh period extends to 2012 > > Challenges in area of spousal affairs. Are you married yet? If so, wouldn't you wish upon a star that he'd be a cutting edge more spiritual? > > > > Love, > > > > Swee > > > > > > On 12/28/06 10:11 PM, "healing spaces" <healingspaces@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > Pranam Sweeji, and members > > > > Here are the birth details > > Date 15th april 1979 > > time 18: 05 > > place jaipur city , rajasthan 75 E 49 26 N 55 > > Definitely shall figure out on my own about which audio it was ..:)Shall look forward for the worthy discussions. on pointers like kevala mahyogada, vaiseshikamsa and other discourses. > > gemstones and physical holdings always carry a fancy ...and more positive feeling of holding. > > > > Wishes > > Swati > > Namah Shivya : Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > On 12/28/06, Swee Chan sweechan@mac . com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Swati, > > Namaste > > > > Can you give your deets again? Sorry, can't seem to find the time (without disturbance) to listen to the mp3's including the ones I've bought :| > > > > Love, > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > On 12/28/06 12:19 PM, "healing spaces" <healingspaces@ gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://gmail. com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama krsna > > Dear Sweeji, > > Are u talking about Narshimaji books that contains information on yogada and vaiseshika. I still have to pick up that book. Do u know which audio contains the details. > > In my chart mars and mercury form kevala mahayogada, would they turn beneficiary for me ..or still remain dhrita badhak and problem creators. > > In vaiseshikamsa i have sun with high strength and exalted in many divisional charts ...but is functional malefic for my chart and also in gandhta. > > u had prescribed me pearl seeing the rising ascendant hasta nakshatra and also acc to dwisaptati dasha. while for emerald u see sometimes the best remedies is to initiate the debilated planet... > > Now Anuj ji with suggests citrine with his conclusions. Vistiji recommends no stones.. > > It wil be good if i compile it all together for study purpose..... and we could reach some lasting conclusions. .Wishing my Guru is around..and would enrich this discussion.. > > Lastly i am seeign this as more a learning process.. as i really dont see myself making any investments in near future, until it costs me less.Just for curosity sake.. Bharat ji what do the yantras cost ? > > > > Swati > > > > > > > > On 12/28/06, swami swami_rcs > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > II Om Gurave Namah II > > Hari om , Friend, > > Dear Sarvashree swee and Anuj, > > Thanks to both of you.In light of hint from Swee and analysis > > of Swati chart, based on concept by Anuj ,if combined: I understand > > we can check prescription of Gems in critical cases. In fact Swati > > chart and her wearing of Gems case is interesting for , it breeds ground > > for correct application of this small segment of Vedic knowledge. > > By the way concept of Yogi and Avayogi may be a part of Achyut > > parampara, since during Panchang lecture Pt Sanjay has asked his > > students to work out Yoga point and other details , that he promised to > > discuss next time. > > Concept of Yoga avyoga is well adopted in west and Late sh.H.R Shanker > > has also written about it in Astrological Magazine .Jyotish tool , > > Digital jyotish,Astroloka etc are good software and DJ is excellent to give > > a fair trial to Teachings of Sh.H.R.S.Iyer' s work. > > I feel in spite of differences we should continue to share knowledge. > > Lastly i thank both of you and Visti and of course Swati who has permitted > > discussion on her chart on open forum. > > > > > > > > Sarve Bhavantu Sukhinah > > Sarve Santu Niramaya > > Sarve Bhadrani Pasyantu > > Ma Kashchid Dukh Bhaag Bhaveit > > HARI OM TATSAT > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- > > R.C.Srivastava > > For Consultation -Service > > E-mail : swami_rcs > > > > 199,MMIG "Guru Kripa" > > Shaheed Nagar. 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Guest guest Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 Hare Rama Krsna Dear Michal, gurus and members, Sorry it was my mistake . yes Saturn confers rajyogas, but not associations with royalty.keeping scorpio as lagna with saturn and rahu as 4th house lords. i was looking for one lord to have royal connections. How do we start the narayana Dasha from 4th house .Any options in JHS? Okie i digged some more points for sagitarius: sun as 9th lord. Sun is my 10th house lord from moon in rashi, sun is placed in ketu star. Ketu is karak of buildings. But at other point scorpio: moon as 9th lord aspected by sun, saturn in 9th house. saturn is in leo sign in rashi and venus star, 10th to my moon . Okie one thing , does rahu ketu create problems in the house of apara vidya or aspecting it , vs the sitting or aspecting the sustainence/marak to these houses. And saturn can create more delay sitting in houses of aparavidya or again aspecting the sustainense marak . i hope i am clear with my query ? Swati Namah Shivaya On 1/12/07, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote: > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Swati, > > Saturn in Cancer in 1st or 10th houses doesn't give Rajyoga? What about > the charts of Indira Ghandi and George Bush? > > Also, have you thought about starting Narayana Dasa of D24 chart from the > 4th house of formal education. This will be different to the one you are > using which starts from the 12th house. > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > healing spaces <healingspaces > > > Friday, January 12, 2007 6:58:40 PM > Re: Siddhamsa [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om > Krishna Guru] > > Dear Michalji, Rafalji, and other learned memebers > thanks Rafalji for delving with my questions... And michalji for getting > into minute details to see the d-24. > here are the answers to what u asked. Please correct me where i went wrong > and also i have written some questions . > Here are some more doubts..and a brief analysis of my D-24 chart > 15th april 1979 , place jaipur city ( 75 E 49 , 26 N 55) > Option 1. Sagitarius as lagna in D-24 (Recorded time 18:05) > Moon in 1st house, with lot of attention to education. Also my mothers > attention in my education as she herself is in education field. 1st lord > and 4th lord Jupiter in 12th with 7th and 10th lord. A desire, motivation > objective, to go till Ph D level in a abroad place altough with . fourth > lord in 12th necessarliy may not mean formal school education studies > abraod, but the objective as being the karyesh lord. > > Also 4th lord , dont know if i can see mother from this, but Jupiter as > lord shows her excelence as professor. jupiter mercury have planetary > aspects by venus and mars, rings a bell of influence of Ak and design, art > architecture, adding to my intellectual base. i was running taurus dasha > when i started my design course. Also rashi aspect of rahu ketu, saturn to > the 1st and 4th lord, showing delays and struggles throughout. > > Now coming to formal education. 4th lord is dual sign so can indicate a > change altough its placed in fixed rashi , so doesnt bring a shift in place. > the first school was convent, foreign influence and all girls school > joined in virgo narayan dasha. the second school was a school with little > royal association s and a co-ed. the change happened when i was in capricorn > -pisces dasha .Pisces is my 4th house here so a time to alter. this happened > in 1993 > > Taurus Dasha, starts in 1995. have placement of venus and mars, took > science as subjects, but was very sure that i want to do architecture and > design , so unlike other students in my class, was not very interested in > IIT. > taurus -scorpio dasha i joined my 5yrs course in interior architecture in > ahmedabad. Change of place to south west. Here come the question ? > > Can the 9th lord sun in 10th house with rashi aspect of moon, be > sufficeint to give me education in design architecture, interiors, > furniture. Well to an extant sun and moon are the two sides of coin, of the > abstract and the concrete, and i always work with these layers, when i > design . The running taurus dasha with venus and mars there could be a > strong infulence to add the visual beauty to it. > Rahu ketu aspect the 9th house with rashi dhriti so somm foriegn > influences strongly, knowing that we .saturn aspects the 10th house which is > the sustainer and the marak house to my bachelors degree. saturn is also > transiting cancer since two yrs, and has given me delay. 9th lord in 10th > Sun could also mean i got involved in doing jobs, or there were felt > obstructions from family as sun and moon are strongly influencing the 10th > house. So there are invariably enough indications of problems at the > bachelors level. > > How does one see this when will this end? What is the role of saturn® > and sun here in delay and sustainence? in my rashi chart the saturn is in > leo, while here it is in cancer? > > Now if i finish and get a degree are there chances of post grad? > Will education end at bachelors due to rahu ketu aspect to 9th? > > 2 house has rahu, ketu, so strong influence of foreign .2nd lord capricorn > is aspected by saturn graha dhristi. in terms of rashi dhristi there are > aspects of jupiter, merc, mars, venus. So the house is strong. i wil be > going into gemini dasha soon, which is aspected by sun and moon placed in > kendra. Gemini is also badhaksthana. > > Option 2. Scorpio as lagna in D24 (18:00) > Jupiter and mercury in 1st house , good intelligence with digbal. Mars as > lagna lord with venus in 7th house, motivation again coloured by art design > , architecture, with planetary aspects of jupiter , mercury . > 4th house rashi is aquarius, co-lorded by rahu in 2nd in capricorn and > saturn in 9th in cancer rashi . Could show two schools. The first school , > with different religion as i was in convent school, and second with > traditional orthodox name setup. Saturn in cancer in 1st and 10th , as told > by my Guru, doesnt confer rajyoga ,saturn is nothing like royal, infact > could mean questionable birth. Well Sawai Man Singh to jaipur is royal, i > would like to believe and this school was founded by Gayatri Devi. > > Moreover 4th lord in 9th house, can show relation between my initial study > continues at the bachelors level. 9th lord in 2nd can show continuation of > bachelors into masters. 2nd lord in 1st house with aspect of 7th lord venus > , can even show masters if dasha allows. 9th house being badhaksthana and > deposited with saturn , can be the reason of delay. Also considerably a > bachelors course is three yrs, while our campus has it for 5 and half yrs. > > Now 10th lord is sun, and the tenth is house is marak and sustainer, there > is again a rahu ketu rashi aspect to the sustaining house, with none other. > How is this different from rahu ketu aspect to 9th house of bachelors > education as seen in scorpio lagna vs the 10th house aspect? > > Also saturn is 8th to moon , and saturn was kantaka sani for the varga > chart as it was transiting cancer since last two yrs, So could have been the > cause of delay . the delay and probelms to 9th house education should be > seen from 9th house itself or specifically the tenth ? > In sagitarius lagna saturn aspects the 10th house where 9th lord sun is > sitting. > In scorpio lagna saturn is sitting in cancer 9th house itself > badhaksthana . > > What are the possibilites of post-grad education in this scorpio lagna , > when the sustainence house has rahu ketu sitting there. also does this > indicate post grad abraod? 9th lord moon is sitting in 2nd house , and 2nd > lord jupiter is sitting in lagna . Rahu ketu in the sustanence house. with > the coming gemini dasha being 8th house , would it give post grad? > > Please look at these two different options. > I have yet not got my bachelors degree in hand. Until i do that masters is > impossible. Which chart looks right and what are the chances in each case to > continue in post-grad. > > swati > namah shivaya > > > On 1/10/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl>> wrote: > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > *Dear Swati, Namaskar!* > > *Please find my comments below.* > > *Hopefully red is agni..forget me wednesday!* > > *Regards* > > *Rafal Gendarz* > > > > > > - > > ** healing spaces <healingspaces > > > *To:* <> ; sohamsa@ > > .com <sohamsa> ; nearmichal <nearmichal >; paramaguru@gro > > ups.com <paramaguru> > > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 10, 2007 7:06 AM > > *Subject:* Re: Siddhamsa [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om > > Krishna Guru] > > > > Hare Rama Krsna : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah > > Dear Michal, Gurus and members > > Sanjayji's lectures on Siddhamsa are wonderful and i wil like to thank > > him for he wonderful resources provided by him for learning. i remember my > > first discussion with my guru was also in d-24. I am learning so much > > through this discussion Michal ji . Even trying to apply it on the charts of > > my known ones and friends from campus. > > Altough here are some basic Some doubts on D-24, Please help me through > > them. > > 1. What will the significant things that come in play when 1st house > > placements are rahu ketu. > > > > [rafal] As Nodes afflicts Akasha Tattwa it usually gives bad education > > or lack of inspiration to learn. It should be confirmed with Jupiter > > position. Jupiter in D9 shows how one learns through God help, D24 how one > > learns in area or for para-/apara siddhi. Nodes shows also ending point of > > education and this should be studied with 4L - goal which one would like to > > reach in educational spheres of life. Lagna is Brahma-sthana where one is > > awaken to create new possibilites therefore kendra to Lagna in Padakrama > > Dasa (southern name) shows new beginings to You while Kendra to Surya shows > > new begining to outside resources..Lagna in every Varga shows fame and > > attitude related to that area therefore Sani in D20-Ascendent give sadness > > in spiritual matters. Rahu will give too much thinking while Ketu > > overconfidence. > > > > > > 2. How would one proceed when rahu ketu are in 4th house. does it mean > > problems or end at formal education. how would it differ from rahu ketu > > rashi dhristi aspect to the 4th house. How would it differ from graha > > drishti aspect. And in what conditions does it allow forward movement in > > education > > > > *[rafal] Forth bhava is Ganesha sthana where education begins. Therefore > > kids in Gurukula's pray to Ganapati. It has to do with Prhtvi Tattwa and > > Muladhara chakra. Forth bhava is karyabhava here and malefics there are very > > bad. Person can have good attitude (Lagna0 but events / situation can make > > Him sad and discouraged (argala). If malefics are in forth, lordship of that > > sthana will show cause (Surya (karaka of dispositor) - creator) and > > independently forth lord shows objective while Lagnesh shows what > > motivate You to start.. Do You catch the difference?* > > > > > > 3. 5th house or 10th house are marak houses to formal education and > > bachelors education. What will rahu ketu placements do in marak houses > > placements. > > > > *[rafal] Fifth is root of paravidya science and it fruits(11) are seen > > by hearing properly guru upadesa and initating good and peaceful (not himsa > > - benefic in third and without obstacles - aspects 9H) methods to get things > > done. Fifth in D24 also shows hobbies and for example I have nodes there > > which shows dabbling with Jyotish. Mangal and Ketu (papargal on enemy of > > karaka of 4h) in 5H shows mind filled with too much extravertism which put > > the person out of home and study and get into gangs and that kind of things. > > Tenth house shows how You teach (see Devata) planets there shows what > > sustains/breaks college-step so give proper Upadesa to Your clients based on > > that.* > > > > > > 4 What kind of studies can be actually shown by rahu, ketu: Can they > > play any role? in todays age when we do most of our learning through > > internet, computers? Also rahu ketu are known as planets for radical or > > futuristic inventions. Consider some body studying interactive embedded > > technology, nanotechnology. What planets wil play role? > > > > [rafal] Lot depends on signs. Prthvi are more connected to money while > > watery to intelectual jobs (they can also give passions in rasi). Rahu can > > indicate politics or philosophy also. In my chart I have 9H scorpio with two > > lords - one is Mangal with Sani (engineering with construtction that was my > > first study which I broke) and Ketu is with Rahu in Cancer in fifth bhava - > > my 2nd college is philosophy. Rahu shows independent (3H) eagerness and > > stance to get things without help of Guru so beware of students which has > > Ra/Sa in 1/5 from Lagna in D1 without AK in kona(s). > > > > > > > > 6. do we at any time consider graha aspects in these charts. > > > > [rafal] Yes, every tool should be used if its a) relevant and b) > > properly applied. > > > > > > 7. how would narayana dasha dictate and can change ur course of study. > > Imagine a person doing bachelors degree, and the person is running narayan > > dasha of the 7th house which denotes the ending to education in certain way > > . > > > > [rafal] Start D24 Narayana dasa from 4L(D1) for apara vidya siddhi's > > > > 8. Shall post another mail for the questions u asked Michal on my D-24 > > Scorpio and Sagitarrius. > > Thanks in advance. > > Swati > > Om gurave namah > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/10/07, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal <nearmichal >> > > wrote: > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > I think I have the lectures you are talking about. > > > > > > Sorry, there seems to have been some confusion. Your 4th house is > > > Aquarius - so... has two lords. These two represent your two schools in > > > Jaipur. You mentioned one had some royal affiliation - so I pointed out > > > Saturn in Cancer, as it is a combination for royalty. > > > > > > Two major points that you still have not been able to answer regarding > > > Sagitarius Lagna are: > > > 1. Why did you not go overseas for your primary level education as > > > Jupiter is 4th Lord in the 12th. > > > 2. Why do Rahu and Ketu in the 2nd house not end the education. > > > > > > 9th lord in 10th can give problems, but what kind of problems? > > > Usually related to work, ending the education and joining the workforce > > > career - 10th house. Or if the 7th house is involved, getting married, or > > > if the 12th house is involved going travelling etc. > > > > > > Sun is photography. But architecture is more Mars don't you think? > > > Design is definately Venus. Moon is more caring, nuturing, healing. > > > > > > What about Moon in badhaksthana from Gemini dasa causing travel? > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > Michal > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > designhologram <healingspaces > > > > <> > > > Wednesday, January 10, 2007 12:12:03 PM > > > Siddhamsa [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om > > > Krishna Guru] > > > > > > *Hare Rama Krsna , > > > dear Michal, Gurus and members > > > Found some more siddhamsa lectures by Sanjay Rathiji, don't know from > > > where i picked them, but are not from atri it seems. they are saved from > > > august on my computer. If u need them i can pass those too. The discussion > > > on his chart is very interesting . And there are some more points than the > > > Atri Audio:) > > > I have put some doubts on ur comments and recent addition to my > > > listening the new audios. > > > > > > Yes scorpio seems to be more positive also at the level of phd. and > > > directly takes my attention, but delay and problems in 9th house has made > > > me more skeptical. my notes in blue > > > > > > The same school can have many different meanings for all people. > > > Someone that was badly bullied there will have different combinations to > > > signify their schooling experience. > > > First see the planets in the 9th house, then the Lord, and then the > > > aspects. In this order we can see the higher education. > > > Don�t you think its interesting that your school, represented by the > > > 4th lord Saturn, transformed into a University, as it is placed in the 9th > > > house? > > > No its not my school that turned into college or university. my two > > > schools were in jaipur, one being convent girls school , and other being a > > > co-ed royal school. infact college is in different city all together. i > > > moved from jaipur to ahmedabad , towards slight south west. the college that > > > i was studyingis very focused to designwith no other faculties turned into > > > deemed university in later years. Also its important to know that the > > > bachelors i was going through is five yrs, where first 6 semesters are in > > > college, the next semester of six months is job, the next thee semesters are > > > in college. Then we have a thesis (which is almost like a phd thesis at > > > times, and people)it is this thesis which i delayed in. sometimes i feel i > > > am doing phd and gemini Also probably my convocation to this degree wil > > > happen in gemini dasha. > > > Sagitarius > > > Some new views i heard in these new audios was , that the 4th lord > > > placemnt shows the seed and final desire to education and 7th lord shows the > > > end to formal education till phd level. In this case 4th lord with 7th lord > > > in 12th house can be positive sign for abroad possibilities. Also he > > > mentions that if 9th lord in 10th can create problem in finishing the > > > bachelors. cant the moon aspect from lagna to sun indicate architecture, > > > design, photography. i am just considering if we my time was any way right > > > as 18:05, than what do i do remedy it. And give me post-grad. 4 yrs delay , > > > and my in between working can attribute to its break. Hope this is not the > > > case, but are there any positive ends to it? Also i know in soem way family > > > has also been reason for certain delay. > > > Scorpio > > > Delay is Saturn. Always mean nodes. > > > So my spiritual education , since it is lord of 3rd house is > > > distracting my delay:) > > > > > > Look at it this way. Does the lord of any house going to another > > > house have any significance? It must. What about the Arudhapada of the 2nd > > > falling in the 12th house? > > > Moon can indicate the public and social things, so it can be something > > > like the design of a town, or buildings that have to do with the public like > > > halls, meeting places etc. > > > Hope i do this, and work around same direction:) i wil be so glad. any > > > remedies that i can pursue for the coming dasha, and timing of when i wil > > > go. > > > Respectfully, > > > Swati > > > * > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > > > I never said that Saturn would give rajayoga to you. All I said was > > > > that if we were to take Saturn in Cancer as Lagna for one of your schools, > > > > then the school would have the charachteristics of some rajyoga ie. be > > > > prestigious, royal etc. > > > > > > > > If Sagitarius was the Lagna then how would you explain design? Lord > > > > of the ninth is Sun in Virgo and the 9th is aspected by the nodes. Let us > > > > first try to be straight - 9th house is for bachelor level education. > > > > > > > > Sagitarius > > > > Why would the 1st lord going to the 12th give overseas education for > > > > masters and not for primary education? Jupiter is also the 4th lord - so > > > > don't you think that your first schooling experience (4th house) would have > > > > been abroad? > > > > > > > > Scorpio > > > > Instead, look at it this way, 2nd lord of Masters education > > > > (Jupiter) is in the 12th from there - so your post-graduate studies will be > > > > overseas. > > > > Moon is in badhaksthana from Gemini and in the 7th house which also > > > > deals with travel - so you have two conspiring to take you abroad in this > > > > dasa. > > > > > > > > So is Sanjay's recent Siddhamsa lecture in English? > > > > > > > > Looking forward to more of your thoughts. Please have a good look > > > > at Scorpio Lagna for the reasons I have given and tell me what you think. > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > healing spaces <healingspaces > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa> > > > > Saturday, January 6, 2007 9:06:12 AM > > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna > > > > Guru] > > > > > > > > Hare Rama krsna > > > > Dear Michal ... > > > > Thanks for ur continous posts and interest.. I am learning a lot:) > > > > With scorpio 18:00 ..my badhakesh becomes 9th lord moon , while > > > > lord of 3rd and 4th saturn placed in 9th gets placed in 9th house > > > > badhakstha, so dont know if its rajyoga. For two yrs , saturn has been > > > > transitting cancer, and i faced most of my delays in last two yrs, altough i > > > > think now with saturn retro transit, will result in submission and finishing > > > > of my viva. how will the end be seen for 9th house? it should end is > > > > taursu-Aquarius( which antar) dasha itself > > > > i am not so good in narayana dasha yet... cant make out what gemini > > > > dasha wil bring and also aspect of moon ..moos is also badhakesh.. Also if i > > > > pursue post-masters its going to be abraod so i need combination for both:) > > > > also what would be the post masters in.. there are no aspects to 2nd house > > > > now, so moon is going to decide the specialization course in design? > > > > help me to see gemini narayan dasha also. > > > > > > > > i see more chances of abroad in sagitarius lagna 18:05 . as the 1st > > > > lord is in 12th and badhaksthana gemini may start operating now and > > > > badhakesh is also in is also in 12th house. however moon has to come into > > > > play as it aspects gemini... Also with rahu ketu in 2nd and many aspects it > > > > can show many influences on masters degree:) > > > > > > > > i think i am confused now for my D-24 enough:) > > > > > > > > For mother ..yes possible we need to go backward for her time > > > > too...altough at bachelors level she did sanskrit, and some other subjects > > > > also..Specializatio n comes when she does masters..and moon has aspect to > > > > 2nd house. venus in 6th debilated ..i dont know... also what about her > > > > further pursuits after Ph D, writing books papers...mars in 3rd > > > > house..karaka bhava nashao..her younger bro is not there...7th house is > > > > afflicted though... > > > > > > > > Guru Sanjayjis lectures are in English mostly...so u can listen to > > > > them... > > > > Also sanjayji told the houses 5th , 10th , 3rd, 8th and 1st are for > > > > spiritual pursuits and informal learning and finally self-realization. > > > > > > > > > > > > wishes > > > > swati > > > > Namah Shivaya > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/5/07, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal <nearmichal >> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > > > > > Yes, Saturn is the significator for delay. I have asked you > > > > > before - what do you think about Gemini dasa approaching? 9th Lord Moon is > > > > > aspecting this sign from the 2nd house of post-graduate studies. > > > > > If your Mother has studied psychology then perhaps Moon should be > > > > > in the 9th house. That would put Shani in the 7th house of Phd, and as > > > > > Shani is karaka for the 10th house it would make sense that her studies had > > > > > the focus of 'vocation' and the psychology of that as Moon aspects. Shakti > > > > > yoga is good if malefics are there, Mars in her case, as the this shows the > > > > > power to overcome anger, hatred etc. > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > healing spaces <healingspaces > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa> > > > > > Friday, January 5, 2007 8:47:14 AM > > > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna > > > > > Guru] > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama krsna > > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > > Thanks...Does saturn show delay with rajyoga as well? with this > > > > > D-24 when do u see a possibility of post-grad? > > > > > My mother is a professor in psychology and has done phd in > > > > > vocational psychology. No, i don't think she had any problems in bachelors. > > > > > She started working in very early age by 22 after finishing her masters. She > > > > > did PhD after her marriage i believe.She got married in May 1974. > > > > > what would u say about her father from 9th house? he had > > > > > parkinsons for many yrs and suffered a lot. She also has strong > > > > > shakti yoga in 7th house involving Ak . So some dischords too. > > > > > Swati > > > > > Namah shivaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/5/07, Michal Dziwulski < nearmichal <nearmichal >> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > > > > > > > Shani in Karka gives rajyoga in the 1st or 10th houses. So, if > > > > > > we take your 9th house in Siddhamsa and call that the Lagna for one of your > > > > > > schools then this combination is present. > > > > > > Can you give details about what your Mother studied? Jupiter, > > > > > > Rahu and Ketu in Scorpio could give some kind of scientific field like > > > > > > radiology or chemistry. Mercury and Rahu in the Navamsa Lagna indicates > > > > > > homeopathy. The lord of the 9th is exalted but retrograde - did she have to > > > > > > work very hard to complete her bachelor level studies? In the Rasi chart > > > > > > Lagna Lord is exalted in the 9th with the 5th lord - I can really believe > > > > > > she has a lot of students! > > > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > > > There are many schools that have churches, I went to one myself for > > > some time. Not every student at the school had Meena in the 4th house of D24 > > > I'm sure. There must be other factors. > > > > > > > > You were born in India but this school that you attended was > > > Catholic - is this right? If this is the case then the nodes were clearly > > > dominating there giving you foreign influence in your education, Rahu as one > > > lord of the 4th house. > > > > > > > > Then you say the 2nd school had royal association. Royalty does not > > > just come from Aries, there are many other factors that can cause this such > > > as Atmakaraka, association with Surya etc. What > > > > about Shani in Karka? - this gives a very high rajayoga when placed > > > in the 1st or 10th house. So maybe somehow it is giving some results here > > > too. I'm not sure about this, but I'm just trying to look at it from as many > > > angles as possible. > > > > > > > > If Pisces was your 4th house then the lord going to the 12th house > > > could give primary education abroad. If we take Scorpio Lagna then 12th lord > > > Venus and Lagnesha Mars are posted in the 7th house of travel, showing that > > > there is the possibility of travel for the advanced education, since it > > > aspects the 9th house. > > > > > > > > Also, dasa is there to time the event, the event has to be first > > > seen in the chart. Just becasue dasa had changed from pisces to aries > > > doesn't necessarily indicate a change. Did you got to a school on a farm > > > just becasue the dasa changed to Taurus? And then go to a playground because > > > dasa changed to Gemini? Do you see my point. > > > > > > > > I have not done any work on the D60 chart to be > > > > honest. There is just so much to learn isn't there. > > > > For your Mother's chart - remember that the nodes break the > > > education unless there is the strong association of Jupiter. If there is, > > > then education will continue. If you want you can share your mother's chart > > > and we can look more. > > > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > healing spaces healingspaces@ ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nearmichal > > > > Wednesday, January 3, 2007 2:43:35 AM > > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna > > > Guru] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Michalji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Hoping to see your valued comments on my last mail about D-24 and > > > D-60 . > > > > > > > > Wishing u a great year ahead > > > > > > > > Swati > > > > > > > > Namah Shivaya > > > > > > > > On 12/31/06, healing spaces < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > healingspaces@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hare Rama krsna : : Om Vyom Vyasadevaya namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Michal, My Guru and learned members... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your valued inputs..it helps me learn Please correct > > > me whenever needed. > > > > > > > Yes Scorpio lagna with time 18:00 makes a lot more sense with many > > > more reasons. But changing a lot in D-60 and getting my venus in MKS there > > > ..and getting jupiter out of MKS.There is already a spouse curse and > > > venus Ak is MKS in rashi, 12th in D-9 and now again MKS in D-60. So lot to > > > handle. > > > > > > > > > > > > But some few pointers with sagitarius. > > > > > > > > The first lord in 12th with mercury shows possibilities of study > > > abraod or loosing out on studies.Will > > > > > > > pisces in 4th house being a dual sign can also give two schools. My > > > first school convent Sophia .Pisces indicates a place more peaceful ,ocean > > > like with church ...But ya this school at one end had a church inside the > > > campus but had a graveyard at back which we could see. > > > > > > > > The second school was a newly founded school with royal associations > > > and name. so Aries. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Explaining the change in capricorn-pisces to capricorn -aries > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For my bachelors degree i moved towards SW of Jaipur city.Okie now > > > coming to 9th lord leo in case of sagi, which has no aspects other than > > > graha dhristi of rahu ketu ..yes may not show much of the background of my > > > studies and campus of architecture and design. Sun as lord would show some > > > govt association. this chart also is positive for masters and abroad > > > education yet no more than masters with rahu and ketu in 2nd house. But with > > > rahu ketu , also problem in completion of masters. > > > > > > > > > > > > With scorpio: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It has many positives apart from getting venus out of MKS in 7th > > > house while making Mars MKS. It gets mercury and jupiter in lagna also > > > making me intelligent and interested in astrology. With cancer as lord of > > > 9th house, it now gets lot many aspects of mars venus, jupiter mercury with > > > rashi dhristi and rahu ketu with graha dhristi. > > > > > > > > By the way in our education we never had exams or written papers at > > > all. All we had was juries and submissions, lot of model making, drafting , > > > sketching and hard work keeping up late in nights..So what i succeded mostly > > > was keeping getting my ideas to jury and teachers , while collecting lot of > > > jealousy among the batchmates. > > > > Does scorpio give masters and abraod studies? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now a lot changes with D-60 ..the options are again : (Sagi in > > > D-24 with taurus in D-60 sarpa amsa rising , Venus in 4th ) or (scorpio in > > > D-24 with pisces in D-60, indu amsa rising, venus in 6th ). > > > > > > > > Some pointers...I have had some accidents with head injury and eye > > > afflictions and teeth issues. little problems and differences in home > > > enviornment. > > > > > > > > > > > > Rest later after ur valued comments. i have been trying these > > > techniques with some other charts ...and getting either very good results or > > > not so good . Especially my mothers chart has rahu ketu jupiter in 9th in > > > D-24 but she has done PHD and is a professor. Would i rectify her chart too? > > > > > > > > > > > Swati > > > > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Shreem mahalakshmai namah : : Namah Shivaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wish u all a great yr ahead and ur family...and may light shine in > > > all of us. Bless me with more aparvidya:) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/31/06, Michal Dziwulski nearmichal > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > > > > > > > If we make Scorpio the Lagna for your D24 chart then Aquarius will > > > be the 4th house. There are two lords, so you attended two schools. Rahu > > > will indicate the school with more of a foreign influence - like a different > > > religion, or different social values etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > If Sagitarius is the Lagna then the Sun would be the 9th lord, and, > > > I could be wrong, but I don't see how the Sun in Virgo would indicate > > > Architecture and Design. Then also the Nodes would be aspecting the 9th > > > house by Rasi drsti and putting an end to any further education. And how > > > would we explain the top marks you get? > > > > > > > > > > > > We always use mean nodes for natal horoscopes. > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > [ Om Namo > > > > Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > healing spaces <healingspaces@ > > > > gmail.com> > > > > To: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > ; nearmichal > > > > Sunday, December 31, 2006 8:41:47 AM > > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna > > > Guru] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna, > > > > Dear Michal , > > > > > > > > Sorry that was a mistype where i missed the word. i have not > > > finished higher education. > > > > i did my schooling from two schools in same town. Shifted from > > > convent school to more a royal school in 1993. this was i think during > > > narayana dasha shift of cap-pisces to cap-taurus. After my 12th standard, i > > > joined this design and architecture 5 yr course away from my home town. > > > > > > > > > > > > So do u see scorpio as my lagna, that would bring my time to 18:00. > > > i have tried this rectification before. Wil saturn in 9th suffice for the > > > delay that i have faced. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry i am confused do we use true nodes option or mean nodes and > > > explanation for same.i think i tinkered the default settings. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Swati > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om gurave namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/31/06, Michal Dziwulski > > > > nearmichal > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > > > > > > > Having a further look I realised I had missed an important factor. > > > In the D24 Narayana dasa of Gemini the 9th lord is strongly aspecting the > > > dasa rasi. This is certainly a positive indication for the completion of > > > your degree. Sorry for the confusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Michal Dziwulski nearmichal > > > > > To: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > Sunday, December 31, 2006 7:57:48 AM > > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > > > When you say you finished your higher education, what did you study > > > before? Currently you are doing architecture and design, but did you study > > > anything before this? > > > > > > > > > > > > If we were to move the D24 Lagna to Scorpio then this is how I would > > > see it - Jupiter and Mercury with Dig Bala in the first house giving an > > > excellent student - remember Lagna in any divisional chart is you. 9th house > > > has retrograde Shani showing delays in the completion of these studies. 9th > > > Lord going to 2nd house showing that these studies will have to lead to post > > > graduate pursuits. Architecture requires a lot of understanding of > > > engineering and is very logical, whereas design is more artistic - and here > > > we > > > > would have the combination of Mars (Lagnesha) and Venus aspecting > > > the 9th house. That duo in the Lagna also aspects the 9th house which would > > > explain all those high marks. > > > > > > > > If we take Narayana Dasa of D24 chart you will see that Taurus dasa > > > has been running from 1995 to the present and is nearly over. Taurus houses > > > the combination of Mars and Venus that aspects your 9th house. What do you > > > think about Gemini dasa coming up next? It is the 8th house, and its lord is > > > conjoined the 5th lord in Lagna. The 5th house is concerned with > > > spirituality, and the 4th from there (8th house) is the learning of the > > > same. So maybe you might be taking a break from your studies to pursue > > > something more spiritual. No doubt you will be thinking a lot about > > > post-grad, since Jupiter is lord of the 2nd, but you can't go on to that > > > until you complete 9th house first. > > > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > healing spaces <healingspaces@ gmail.com> > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > Saturday, December 30, 2006 2:09:19 PM > > > > > > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna > > > Guru] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama krsna > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > > > > > > > > > Its always great to gather inputs from all on a great forum like > > > this ... And i must congratulate YOU that u caught a great nerve that is > > > troubling me in my life. I have finished my higher education. Further i > > > joined a > > > > five yr BACHELORS course in architecture and design. My first 9 > > > semesters had me being topping in all subjects, which created lots of > > > jealousy around me.. Moreover i was having a lot of family troubles at the > > > background,which still continue. My tenth semster which includes writing a > > > thesis , has gone for a long stretch after this and yes i have still not > > > completed it. it still has to go through last stages of submission and viva, > > > as i can never leave a > > > > hope.I have not failed yet but it has delayed for more than 4 yrs. > > > The delay has occured due to my perfectionist attitude, my lost ability to > > > overcome situations, lost relationships and the overarching family issues. > > > In mean time yes i have started freelancing and sustaining myself > > > financially, yet i would not say i am settled in career. > > > > > > > > Sharing all this information, for study purposes. U could comment of > > > birth rectification. I have gone over trying to rectify but never succeded. > > > > > > > > > > > > Would love to know when will i finish and get my degree in hand? Are > > > there any remedies particularly for > > > > same.Still a HOPE to pursue post-grad. Any HOPE? or possibility of > > > working abroad? > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swati > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/30/06, Michal Dziwulski < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nearmichal > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > > > Hope you don't mind my input. In your D24 chart Rahu and Ketu occupy > > > the 2nd house which is seen for post graduate study ie. Masters, Honours. > > > This can be overcome if a strong Jupiter associates, as he will want you to > > > continue learning. Has your chart been rectified? Also 9th lord Sun going to > > > the 10th house would indicate an end to bachelor level education and > > > entering into work. Rahu and Ketu are the only other planets aspecting the > > > 9th house. Did you complete your higher education? If you did then maybe the > > > Lagna has to be shifted. Please share your experience for the purpose of > > > learning. > > > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > healing spaces healingspaces@ ... > > > > To: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > Friday, December 29, 2006 1:01:08 PM > > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna > > > Guru] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krsna > > > > > > > > Pranam Sweeji, > > > > > > > > > > > > No > > > > i am not married yet ...Altough i have had a past relationship. And > > > am > > > > not planning to get married yet .. Want to go abraod and pursue > > > post-grad and > > > > research in design and architecture. Don't know if this is possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > u > > > > mentioned badhakesh period till 2012 . i think later to that even i > > > > will be running badhaksthan pisces chara dasha till 2020. When do u > > > > forsee marriage ? > > > > > > > > 'Demented quite, I must have been if I did not suggest Pearl as an > > > upaya. Tis not for you to adorn.' > > > > Did u mean this is MUST for me.. ?What about emerald ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Swati > > > > > > > > > > > > Om gurave namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/29/06, > > > > Swee Chan sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Demented quite, I must have been if I did not suggest Pearl as an > > > upaya. Tis not for you to adorn. Badhakesh period extends to 2012 > > > > > > > > Challenges in area of spousal affairs. Are you married yet? If so, > > > wouldn't you wish upon a star that he'd be a cutting edge more spiritual? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/28/06 10:11 PM, "healing spaces" <healingspaces@ gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > > > > > Pranam Sweeji, and members > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the birth details > > > > > > > > Date 15th april 1979 > > > > > > > > time 18: 05 > > > > > > > > place jaipur city , rajasthan 75 E 49 26 N 55 > > > > > > > > Definitely shall figure out on my own about which audio it was > > > ..:)Shall look forward for the worthy discussions. on pointers like kevala > > > mahyogada, vaiseshikamsa and other discourses. > > > > > > > > gemstones and physical holdings always carry a fancy ...and more > > > positive feeling of holding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wishes > > > > > > > > Swati > > > > > > > > Namah Shivya : Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/28/06, Swee Chan sweechan@mac . com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you give your deets again? Sorry, can't seem to find the time > > > (without disturbance) to listen to the mp3's including the ones I've bought > > > :| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/28/06 12:19 PM, "healing spaces" <healingspaces@ gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://gmail. com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama krsna > > > > > > > > Dear Sweeji, > > > > > > > > Are u talking about Narshimaji books that contains information on > > > yogada and vaiseshika. I still have to pick up that book. Do u know which > > > audio contains the details. > > > > > > > > In my chart mars and mercury form kevala mahayogada, would they turn > > > beneficiary for me ..or still remain dhrita badhak and problem creators. > > > > > > > > In vaiseshikamsa i have sun with high strength and exalted in many > > > divisional charts ...but is functional malefic for my chart and also in > > > gandhta. > > > > > > > > u had prescribed me pearl seeing the rising ascendant hasta > > > nakshatra and also acc to dwisaptati dasha. while for emerald u see > > > sometimes the best remedies is to initiate the debilated planet... > > > > > > > > Now Anuj ji with suggests citrine with his conclusions. Vistiji > > > recommends no stones.. > > > > > > > > It wil be good if i compile it all together for study purpose..... > > > and we could reach some lasting conclusions. .Wishing my Guru is around..and > > > would enrich this discussion.. > > > > > > > > Lastly i am seeign this as more a learning process.. as i really > > > dont see myself making any investments in near future, until it costs me > > > less.Just for curosity sake.. Bharat ji what do the yantras cost ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swati > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/28/06, swami swami_rcs > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > II Om Gurave Namah II > > > > > > > > Hari om , Friend, > > > > > > > > Dear Sarvashree swee and Anuj, > > > > > > > > Thanks to both of you.In light of hint from Swee and analysis > > > > > > > > of Swati chart, based on concept by Anuj ,if combined: I understand > > > > > > > > we can check prescription of Gems in critical cases. In fact Swati > > > > > > > > chart and her wearing of Gems case is interesting for , it breeds > > > ground > > > > > > > > for correct application of this small segment of Vedic knowledge. > > > > > > > > By the way concept of Yogi and Avayogi may be a part of Achyut > > > > > > > > parampara, since during Panchang lecture Pt Sanjay has asked his > > > > > > > > students to work out Yoga point and other details , that he promised > > > to > > > > > > > > discuss next time. > > > > > > > > Concept of Yoga avyoga is well adopted in west and Late sh.H.RShanker > > > > > > > > has also written about it in Astrological Magazine .Jyotish tool , > > > > > > > > Digital jyotish,Astroloka etc are good software and DJ is excellent > > > to give > > > > > > > > a fair trial to Teachings of Sh.H.R.S.Iyer' s work. > > > > > > > > I feel in spite of differences we should continue to share > > > knowledge. > > > > > > > > Lastly i thank both of you and Visti and of course Swati who has > > > permitted > > > > > > > > discussion on her chart on open forum. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarve Bhavantu Sukhinah > > > > > > > > Sarve Santu Niramaya > > > > > > > > Sarve Bhadrani Pasyantu > > > > > > > > Ma Kashchid Dukh Bhaag Bhaveit > > > > > > > > HARI OM TATSAT > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- > > > > > > > > R.C.Srivastava > > > > > > > > For Consultation -Service > > > > > > > > E-mail : swami_rcs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 199,MMIG "Guru Kripa" > > > > > > > > Shaheed Nagar. 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Guest guest Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Swati, Determine the concerned house in Rasi (4th house for formal education), determine the lord of the concerend house in the Rasi chart, and then take the sign occupied by the Graha in the concerend divisional chart and calculate Narayana Dasa from the sign it occupies (or the 7th from it depending on strength). There are options for this in Jagannatha Hora. Just make the Dasa start from Scorpio in your case as this has 4th Lord from Rasi Jupiter. Otherwise the default is giving you Narayana dasa starting from your 12th lord in Rasi, Sun. This is all from Sanjay's Narayana Dasa book. Respectfully, Michal [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] healing spaces <healingspaces > Saturday, January 13, 2007 7:44:17 AM Re: Siddhamsa [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Hare Rama Krsna Dear Michal, gurus and members, Sorry it was my mistake . yes Saturn confers rajyogas, but not associations with royalty.keeping scorpio as lagna with saturn and rahu as 4th house lords. i was looking for one lord to have royal connections. How do we start the narayana Dasha from 4th house .Any options in JHS? Okie i digged some more points for sagitarius: sun as 9th lord. Sun is my 10th house lord from moon in rashi, sun is placed in ketu star. Ketu is karak of buildings. But at other point scorpio: moon as 9th lord aspected by sun, saturn in 9th house. saturn is in leo sign in rashi and venus star, 10th to my moon . Okie one thing , does rahu ketu create problems in the house of apara vidya or aspecting it , vs the sitting or aspecting the sustainence/ marak to these houses. And saturn can create more delay sitting in houses of aparavidya or again aspecting the sustainense marak . i hope i am clear with my query ? Swati Namah Shivaya On 1/12/07, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote: [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Swati, Saturn in Cancer in 1st or 10th houses doesn't give Rajyoga? What about the charts of Indira Ghandi and George Bush? Also, have you thought about starting Narayana Dasa of D24 chart from the 4th house of formal education. This will be different to the one you are using which starts from the 12th house. Respectfully, Michal [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] healing spaces <healingspaces > Friday, January 12, 2007 6:58:40 PM Re: Siddhamsa [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Dear Michalji, Rafalji, and other learned memebers thanks Rafalji for delving with my questions... And michalji for getting into minute details to see the d-24. here are the answers to what u asked. Please correct me where i went wrong and also i have written some questions . Here are some more doubts..and a brief analysis of my D-24 chart 15th april 1979 , place jaipur city ( 75 E 49 , 26 N 55) Option 1. Sagitarius as lagna in D-24 (Recorded time 18:05) Moon in 1st house, with lot of attention to education. Also my mothers attention in my education as she herself is in education field. 1st lord and 4th lord Jupiter in 12th with 7th and 10th lord. A desire, motivation objective, to go till Ph D level in a abroad place altough with . fourth lord in 12th necessarliy may not mean formal school education studies abraod, but the objective as being the karyesh lord. Also 4th lord , dont know if i can see mother from this, but Jupiter as lord shows her excelence as professor. jupiter mercury have planetary aspects by venus and mars, rings a bell of influence of Ak and design, art architecture, adding to my intellectual base. i was running taurus dasha when i started my design course. Also rashi aspect of rahu ketu, saturn to the 1st and 4th lord, showing delays and struggles throughout. Now coming to formal education. 4th lord is dual sign so can indicate a change altough its placed in fixed rashi , so doesnt bring a shift in place. the first school was convent, foreign influence and all girls school joined in virgo narayan dasha. the second school was a school with little royal association s and a co-ed. the change happened when i was in capricorn -pisces dasha .Pisces is my 4th house here so a time to alter. this happened in 1993 Taurus Dasha, starts in 1995. have placement of venus and mars, took science as subjects, but was very sure that i want to do architecture and design , so unlike other students in my class, was not very interested in IIT. taurus -scorpio dasha i joined my 5yrs course in interior architecture in ahmedabad. Change of place to south west. Here come the question ? Can the 9th lord sun in 10th house with rashi aspect of moon, be sufficeint to give me education in design architecture, interiors, furniture. Well to an extant sun and moon are the two sides of coin, of the abstract and the concrete, and i always work with these layers, when i design . The running taurus dasha with venus and mars there could be a strong infulence to add the visual beauty to it. Rahu ketu aspect the 9th house with rashi dhriti so somm foriegn influences strongly, knowing that we .saturn aspects the 10th house which is the sustainer and the marak house to my bachelors degree. saturn is also transiting cancer since two yrs, and has given me delay. 9th lord in 10th Sun could also mean i got involved in doing jobs, or there were felt obstructions from family as sun and moon are strongly influencing the 10th house. So there are invariably enough indications of problems at the bachelors level. How does one see this when will this end? What is the role of saturn® and sun here in delay and sustainence? in my rashi chart the saturn is in leo, while here it is in cancer? Now if i finish and get a degree are there chances of post grad? Will education end at bachelors due to rahu ketu aspect to 9th? 2 house has rahu, ketu, so strong influence of foreign .2nd lord capricorn is aspected by saturn graha dhristi. in terms of rashi dhristi there are aspects of jupiter, merc, mars, venus. So the house is strong. i wil be going into gemini dasha soon, which is aspected by sun and moon placed in kendra.. Gemini is also badhaksthana. Option 2. Scorpio as lagna in D24 (18:00) Jupiter and mercury in 1st house , good intelligence with digbal. Mars as lagna lord with venus in 7th house, motivation again coloured by art design , architecture, with planetary aspects of jupiter , mercury . 4th house rashi is aquarius, co-lorded by rahu in 2nd in capricorn and saturn in 9th in cancer rashi . Could show two schools. The first school , with different religion as i was in convent school, and second with traditional orthodox name setup. Saturn in cancer in 1st and 10th , as told by my Guru, doesnt confer rajyoga ,saturn is nothing like royal, infact could mean questionable birth. Well Sawai Man Singh to jaipur is royal, i would like to believe and this school was founded by Gayatri Devi. Moreover 4th lord in 9th house, can show relation between my initial study continues at the bachelors level. 9th lord in 2nd can show continuation of bachelors into masters. 2nd lord in 1st house with aspect of 7th lord venus , can even show masters if dasha allows. 9th house being badhaksthana and deposited with saturn , can be the reason of delay. Also considerably a bachelors course is three yrs, while our campus has it for 5 and half yrs. Now 10th lord is sun, and the tenth is house is marak and sustainer, there is again a rahu ketu rashi aspect to the sustaining house, with none other. How is this different from rahu ketu aspect to 9th house of bachelors education as seen in scorpio lagna vs the 10th house aspect? Also saturn is 8th to moon , and saturn was kantaka sani for the varga chart as it was transiting cancer since last two yrs, So could have been the cause of delay . the delay and probelms to 9th house education should be seen from 9th house itself or specifically the tenth ? In sagitarius lagna saturn aspects the 10th house where 9th lord sun is sitting. In scorpio lagna saturn is sitting in cancer 9th house itself badhaksthana . What are the possibilites of post-grad education in this scorpio lagna , when the sustainence house has rahu ketu sitting there. also does this indicate post grad abraod? 9th lord moon is sitting in 2nd house , and 2nd lord jupiter is sitting in lagna . Rahu ketu in the sustanence house. with the coming gemini dasha being 8th house , would it give post grad? Please look at these two different options. I have yet not got my bachelors degree in hand. Until i do that masters is impossible. Which chart looks right and what are the chances in each case to continue in post-grad. swati namah shivaya On 1/10/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: hraum namah adityaya Dear Swati, Namaskar! Please find my comments below. Hopefully red is agni..forget me wednesday! Regards Rafal Gendarz - healing spaces ; sohamsa@ .com ; nearmichal ; paramaguru@gro ups.com Wednesday, January 10, 2007 7:06 AM Re: Siddhamsa [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Hare Rama Krsna : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah Dear Michal, Gurus and members Sanjayji's lectures on Siddhamsa are wonderful and i wil like to thank him for he wonderful resources provided by him for learning. i remember my first discussion with my guru was also in d-24. I am learning so much through this discussion Michal ji . Even trying to apply it on the charts of my known ones and friends from campus. Altough here are some basic Some doubts on D-24, Please help me through them. 1. What will the significant things that come in play when 1st house placements are rahu ketu. [rafal] As Nodes afflicts Akasha Tattwa it usually gives bad education or lack of inspiration to learn. It should be confirmed with Jupiter position. Jupiter in D9 shows how one learns through God help, D24 how one learns in area or for para-/apara siddhi. Nodes shows also ending point of education and this should be studied with 4L - goal which one would like to reach in educational spheres of life. Lagna is Brahma-sthana where one is awaken to create new possibilites therefore kendra to Lagna in Padakrama Dasa (southern name) shows new beginings to You while Kendra to Surya shows new begining to outside resources..Lagna in every Varga shows fame and attitude related to that area therefore Sani in D20-Ascendent give sadness in spiritual matters. Rahu will give too much thinking while Ketu overconfidence. 2. How would one proceed when rahu ketu are in 4th house. does it mean problems or end at formal education. how would it differ from rahu ketu rashi dhristi aspect to the 4th house. How would it differ from graha drishti aspect. And in what conditions does it allow forward movement in education [rafal] Forth bhava is Ganesha sthana where education begins. Therefore kids in Gurukula's pray to Ganapati. It has to do with Prhtvi Tattwa and Muladhara chakra. Forth bhava is karyabhava here and malefics there are very bad. Person can have good attitude (Lagna0 but events / situation can make Him sad and discouraged (argala). If malefics are in forth, lordship of that sthana will show cause (Surya (karaka of dispositor) - creator) and independently forth lord shows objective while Lagnesh shows what motivate You to start.. Do You catch the difference? 3. 5th house or 10th house are marak houses to formal education and bachelors education. What will rahu ketu placements do in marak houses placements. [rafal] Fifth is root of paravidya science and it fruits(11) are seen by hearing properly guru upadesa and initating good and peaceful (not himsa - benefic in third and without obstacles - aspects 9H) methods to get things done. Fifth in D24 also shows hobbies and for example I have nodes there which shows dabbling with Jyotish. Mangal and Ketu (papargal on enemy of karaka of 4h) in 5H shows mind filled with too much extravertism which put the person out of home and study and get into gangs and that kind of things. Tenth house shows how You teach (see Devata) planets there shows what sustains/breaks college-step so give proper Upadesa to Your clients based on that. 4 What kind of studies can be actually shown by rahu, ketu: Can they play any role? in todays age when we do most of our learning through internet, computers? Also rahu ketu are known as planets for radical or futuristic inventions. Consider some body studying interactive embedded technology, nanotechnology. What planets wil play role? [rafal] Lot depends on signs. Prthvi are more connected to money while watery to intelectual jobs (they can also give passions in rasi). Rahu can indicate politics or philosophy also. In my chart I have 9H scorpio with two lords - one is Mangal with Sani (engineering with construtction that was my first study which I broke) and Ketu is with Rahu in Cancer in fifth bhava - my 2nd college is philosophy. Rahu shows independent (3H) eagerness and stance to get things without help of Guru so beware of students which has Ra/Sa in 1/5 from Lagna in D1 without AK in kona(s). 6. do we at any time consider graha aspects in these charts. [rafal] Yes, every tool should be used if its a) relevant and b) properly applied. 7. how would narayana dasha dictate and can change ur course of study. Imagine a person doing bachelors degree, and the person is running narayan dasha of the 7th house which denotes the ending to education in certain way . [rafal] Start D24 Narayana dasa from 4L(D1) for apara vidya siddhi's 8. Shall post another mail for the questions u asked Michal on my D-24 Scorpio and Sagitarrius. Thanks in advance. Swati Om gurave namah On 1/10/07, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote: [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Swati, I think I have the lectures you are talking about. Sorry, there seems to have been some confusion. Your 4th house is Aquarius - so... has two lords. These two represent your two schools in Jaipur. You mentioned one had some royal affiliation - so I pointed out Saturn in Cancer, as it is a combination for royalty. Two major points that you still have not been able to answer regarding Sagitarius Lagna are: 1. Why did you not go overseas for your primary level education as Jupiter is 4th Lord in the 12th. 2. Why do Rahu and Ketu in the 2nd house not end the education. 9th lord in 10th can give problems, but what kind of problems? Usually related to work, ending the education and joining the workforce career - 10th house. Or if the 7th house is involved, getting married, or if the 12th house is involved going travelling etc. Sun is photography. But architecture is more Mars don't you think? Design is definately Venus. Moon is more caring, nuturing, healing. What about Moon in badhaksthana from Gemini dasa causing travel? Respectfully, Michal [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] ----- Original Message ---- designhologram <healingspaces > Wednesday, January 10, 2007 12:12:03 PM Siddhamsa [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Hare Rama Krsna , dear Michal, Gurus and members Found some more siddhamsa lectures by Sanjay Rathiji, don't know from where i picked them, but are not from atri it seems. they are saved from august on my computer. If u need them i can pass those too. The discussion on his chart is very interesting . And there are some more points than the Atri Audio:) I have put some doubts on ur comments and recent addition to my listening the new audios. Yes scorpio seems to be more positive also at the level of phd. and directly takes my attention, but delay and problems in 9th house has made me more skeptical. my notes in blue The same school can have many different meanings for all people. Someone that was badly bullied there will have different combinations to signify their schooling experience. First see the planets in the 9th house, then the Lord, and then the aspects. In this order we can see the higher education. Don�t you think its interesting that your school, represented by the 4th lord Saturn, transformed into a University, as it is placed in the 9th house? No its not my school that turned into college or university. my two schools were in jaipur, one being convent girls school , and other being a co-ed royal school. infact college is in different city all together. i moved from jaipur to ahmedabad , towards slight south west. the college that i was studyingis very focused to designwith no other faculties turned into deemed university in later years. Also its important to know that the bachelors i was going through is five yrs, where first 6 semesters are in college, the next semester of six months is job, the next thee semesters are in college. Then we have a thesis (which is almost like a phd thesis at times, and people)it is this thesis which i delayed in. sometimes i feel i am doing phd and gemini Also probably my convocation to this degree wil happen in gemini dasha. Sagitarius Some new views i heard in these new audios was , that the 4th lord placemnt shows the seed and final desire to education and 7th lord shows the end to formal education till phd level. In this case 4th lord with 7th lord in 12th house can be positive sign for abroad possibilities. Also he mentions that if 9th lord in 10th can create problem in finishing the bachelors. cant the moon aspect from lagna to sun indicate architecture, design, photography. i am just considering if we my time was any way right as 18:05, than what do i do remedy it. And give me post-grad. 4 yrs delay , and my in between working can attribute to its break. Hope this is not the case, but are there any positive ends to it? Also i know in soem way family has also been reason for certain delay. Scorpio Delay is Saturn. Always mean nodes. So my spiritual education , since it is lord of 3rd house is distracting my delay:) Look at it this way. Does the lord of any house going to another house have any significance? It must. What about the Arudhapada of the 2nd falling in the 12th house? Moon can indicate the public and social things, so it can be something like the design of a town, or buildings that have to do with the public like halls, meeting places etc. Hope i do this, and work around same direction:) i wil be so glad. any remedies that i can pursue for the coming dasha, and timing of when i wil go. Respectfully, Swati [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Swati, I never said that Saturn would give rajayoga to you. All I said was that if we were to take Saturn in Cancer as Lagna for one of your schools, then the school would have the charachteristics of some rajyoga ie. be prestigious, royal etc. If Sagitarius was the Lagna then how would you explain design? Lord of the ninth is Sun in Virgo and the 9th is aspected by the nodes. Let us first try to be straight - 9th house is for bachelor level education. Sagitarius Why would the 1st lord going to the 12th give overseas education for masters and not for primary education? Jupiter is also the 4th lord - so don't you think that your first schooling experience (4th house) would have been abroad? Scorpio Instead, look at it this way, 2nd lord of Masters education (Jupiter) is in the 12th from there - so your post-graduate studies will be overseas. Moon is in badhaksthana from Gemini and in the 7th house which also deals with travel - so you have two conspiring to take you abroad in this dasa. So is Sanjay's recent Siddhamsa lecture in English? Looking forward to more of your thoughts. Please have a good look at Scorpio Lagna for the reasons I have given and tell me what you think. Respectfully, Michal [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] ----- Original Message ---- healing spaces <healingspaces > sohamsa@ .com Saturday, January 6, 2007 9:06:12 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Hare Rama krsna Dear Michal ... Thanks for ur continous posts and interest.. I am learning a lot:) With scorpio 18:00 ..my badhakesh becomes 9th lord moon , while lord of 3rd and 4th saturn placed in 9th gets placed in 9th house badhakstha, so dont know if its rajyoga. For two yrs , saturn has been transitting cancer, and i faced most of my delays in last two yrs, altough i think now with saturn retro transit, will result in submission and finishing of my viva. how will the end be seen for 9th house? it should end is taursu-Aquarius( which antar) dasha itself i am not so good in narayana dasha yet... cant make out what gemini dasha wil bring and also aspect of moon ..moos is also badhakesh.. Also if i pursue post-masters its going to be abraod so i need combination for both:) also what would be the post masters in.. there are no aspects to 2nd house now, so moon is going to decide the specialization course in design? help me to see gemini narayan dasha also. i see more chances of abroad in sagitarius lagna 18:05 . as the 1st lord is in 12th and badhaksthana gemini may start operating now and badhakesh is also in is also in 12th house. however moon has to come into play as it aspects gemini... Also with rahu ketu in 2nd and many aspects it can show many influences on masters degree:) i think i am confused now for my D-24 enough:) For mother ..yes possible we need to go backward for her time too...altough at bachelors level she did sanskrit, and some other subjects also..Specializatio n comes when she does masters..and moon has aspect to 2nd house. venus in 6th debilated ..i dont know... also what about her further pursuits after Ph D, writing books papers...mars in 3rd house..karaka bhava nashao..her younger bro is not there...7th house is afflicted though... Guru Sanjayjis lectures are in English mostly...so u can listen to them... Also sanjayji told the houses 5th , 10th , 3rd, 8th and 1st are for spiritual pursuits and informal learning and finally self-realization. wishes swati Namah Shivaya On 1/5/07, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote: [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Swati, Yes, Saturn is the significator for delay. I have asked you before - what do you think about Gemini dasa approaching? 9th Lord Moon is aspecting this sign from the 2nd house of post-graduate studies. If your Mother has studied psychology then perhaps Moon should be in the 9th house. That would put Shani in the 7th house of Phd, and as Shani is karaka for the 10th house it would make sense that her studies had the focus of 'vocation' and the psychology of that as Moon aspects. Shakti yoga is good if malefics are there, Mars in her case, as the this shows the power to overcome anger, hatred etc. Respectfully, Michal [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] ----- Original Message ---- healing spaces <healingspaces > sohamsa@ .com Friday, January 5, 2007 8:47:14 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Hare Rama krsna Dear Michal, Thanks...Does saturn show delay with rajyoga as well? with this D-24 when do u see a possibility of post-grad? My mother is a professor in psychology and has done phd in vocational psychology. No, i don't think she had any problems in bachelors. She started working in very early age by 22 after finishing her masters. She did PhD after her marriage i believe.She got married in May 1974. what would u say about her father from 9th house? he had parkinsons for many yrs and suffered a lot. She also has strong shakti yoga in 7th house involving Ak . So some dischords too. Swati Namah shivaya On 1/5/07, Michal Dziwulski < nearmichal > wrote: [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Swati, Shani in Karka gives rajyoga in the 1st or 10th houses. So, if we take your 9th house in Siddhamsa and call that the Lagna for one of your schools then this combination is present. Can you give details about what your Mother studied? Jupiter, Rahu and Ketu in Scorpio could give some kind of scientific field like radiology or chemistry. Mercury and Rahu in the Navamsa Lagna indicates homeopathy. The lord of the 9th is exalted but retrograde - did she have to work very hard to complete her bachelor level studies? In the Rasi chart Lagna Lord is exalted in the 9th with the 5th lord - I can really believe she has a lot of students! Respectfully, > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Swati, > > There are many schools that have churches, I went to one myself for some time. Not every student at the school had Meena in the 4th house of D24 I'm sure. There must be other factors. > > You were born in India but this school that you attended was Catholic - is this right? If this is the case then the nodes were clearly dominating there giving you foreign influence in your education, Rahu as one lord of the 4th house. > > Then you say the 2nd school had royal association. Royalty does not just come from Aries, there are many other factors that can cause this such as Atmakaraka, association with Surya etc. What > about Shani in Karka? - this gives a very high rajayoga when placed in the 1st or 10th house. So maybe somehow it is giving some results here too. I'm not sure about this, but I'm just trying to look at it from as many angles as possible. > > If Pisces was your 4th house then the lord going to the 12th house could give primary education abroad. If we take Scorpio Lagna then 12th lord Venus and Lagnesha Mars are posted in the 7th house of travel, showing that there is the possibility of travel for the advanced education, since it aspects the 9th house. > > Also, dasa is there to time the event, the event has to be first seen in the chart. Just becasue dasa had changed from pisces to aries doesn't necessarily indicate a change. Did you got to a school on a farm just becasue the dasa changed to Taurus? And then go to a playground because dasa changed to Gemini? Do you see my point. > > I have not done any work on the D60 chart to be > honest. There is just so much to learn isn't there. > For your Mother's chart - remember that the nodes break the education unless there is the strong association of Jupiter. If there is, then education will continue. If you want you can share your mother's chart and we can look more. > > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > healing spaces healingspaces@ ... > > > > > > nearmichal > Wednesday, January 3, 2007 2:43:35 AM > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > Dear Michalji, > > > Hoping to see your valued comments on my last mail about D-24 and D-60 . > > Wishing u a great year ahead > > Swati > > Namah Shivaya > > On 12/31/06, healing spaces < > > > > > > healingspaces@ gmail.com> wrote: > Hare Rama krsna : : Om Vyom Vyasadevaya namah > > > > > > > > > Dear Michal, My Guru and learned members... > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your valued inputs..it helps me learn Please correct me whenever needed. > Yes Scorpio lagna with time 18:00 makes a lot more sense with many more reasons. But changing a lot in D-60 and getting my venus in MKS there ..and getting jupiter out of MKS.There is already a spouse curse and venus Ak is MKS in rashi, 12th in D-9 and now again MKS in D-60. So lot to handle. > > > But some few pointers with sagitarius. > > The first lord in 12th with mercury shows possibilities of study abraod or loosing out on studies.Will > pisces in 4th house being a dual sign can also give two schools. My first school convent Sophia .Pisces indicates a place more peaceful ,ocean like with church ...But ya this school at one end had a church inside the campus but had a graveyard at back which we could see.. > > The second school was a newly founded school with royal associations and name. so Aries. > > > > > > > > > Explaining the change in capricorn-pisces to capricorn -aries > > > > > > > > > > For my bachelors degree i moved towards SW of Jaipur city.Okie now coming to 9th lord leo in case of sagi, which has no aspects other than graha dhristi of rahu ketu ..yes may not show much of the background of my studies and campus of architecture and design. Sun as lord would show some govt association. this chart also is positive for masters and abroad education yet no more than masters with rahu and ketu in 2nd house. But with rahu ketu , also problem in completion of masters. > > > With scorpio: > > > > > > > > > It has many positives apart from getting venus out of MKS in 7th house while making Mars MKS. It gets mercury and jupiter in lagna also making me intelligent and interested in astrology. With cancer as lord of 9th house, it now gets lot many aspects of mars venus, jupiter mercury with rashi dhristi and rahu ketu with graha dhristi. > > By the way in our education we never had exams or written papers at all. All we had was juries and submissions, lot of model making, drafting , sketching and hard work keeping up late in nights..So what i succeded mostly was keeping getting my ideas to jury and teachers , while collecting lot of jealousy among the batchmates. > Does scorpio give masters and abraod studies? > > > > > > > > > > Now a lot changes with D-60 ..the options are again : (Sagi in D-24 with taurus in D-60 sarpa amsa rising , Venus in 4th ) or (scorpio in D-24 with pisces in D-60, indu amsa rising, venus in 6th ). > > Some pointers...I have had some accidents with head injury and eye afflictions and teeth issues. little problems and differences in home enviornment. > > > Rest later after ur valued comments. i have been trying these techniques with some other charts ....and getting either very good results or not so good . Especially my mothers chart has rahu ketu jupiter in 9th in D-24 but she has done PHD and is a professor. Would i rectify her chart too? > > Swati > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Shreem mahalakshmai namah : : Namah Shivaya > > > > > > > > > Wish u all a great yr ahead and ur family...and may light shine in all of us.. Bless me with more aparvidya:) > > > > > > > > > > On 12/31/06, Michal Dziwulski nearmichal > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Swati, > > > If we make Scorpio the Lagna for your D24 chart then Aquarius will be the 4th house. There are two lords, so you attended two schools. Rahu will indicate the school with more of a foreign influence - like a different religion, or different social values etc. > > > If Sagitarius is the Lagna then the Sun would be the 9th lord, and, I could be wrong, but I don't see how the Sun in Virgo would indicate Architecture and Design. Then also the Nodes would be aspecting the 9th house by Rasi drsti and putting an end to any further education. And how would we explain the top marks you get? > > > We always use mean nodes for natal horoscopes. > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo > Narayanaya ] > > ----- Original Message ---- > healing spaces <healingspaces@ > gmail.com> > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > ; nearmichal > Sunday, December 31, 2006 8:41:47 AM > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > Hare Rama Krsna, > Dear Michal , > > Sorry that was a mistype where i missed the word. i have not finished higher education. > i did my schooling from two schools in same town. Shifted from convent school to more a royal school in 1993. this was i think during narayana dasha shift of cap-pisces to cap-taurus. After my 12th standard, i joined this design and architecture 5 yr course away from my home town. > > > So do u see scorpio as my lagna, that would bring my time to 18:00. i have tried this rectification before. Wil saturn in 9th suffice for the delay that i have faced. > > > Sorry i am confused do we use true nodes option or mean nodes and explanation for same.i think i tinkered the default settings. > > Thanks > Swati > > > > > > > > > > Om gurave namah > > > > > On 12/31/06, Michal Dziwulski > nearmichal > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Swati, > > > Having a further look I realised I had missed an important factor. In the D24 Narayana dasa of Gemini the 9th lord is strongly aspecting the dasa rasi. This is certainly a positive indication for the completion of your degree. Sorry for the confusion. > > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > Michal Dziwulski nearmichal > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > Sunday, December 31, 2006 7:57:48 AM > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: > [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Swati, > > When you say you finished your higher education, what did you study before? Currently you are doing architecture and design, but did you study anything before this? > > > If we were to move the D24 Lagna to Scorpio then this is how I would see it - Jupiter and Mercury with Dig Bala in the first house giving an excellent student - remember Lagna in any divisional chart is you. 9th house has retrograde Shani showing delays in the completion of these studies. 9th Lord going to 2nd house showing that these studies will have to lead to post graduate pursuits. Architecture requires a lot of understanding of engineering and is very logical, whereas design is more artistic - and here we > would have the combination of Mars (Lagnesha) and Venus aspecting the 9th house. That duo in the Lagna also aspects the 9th house which would explain all those high marks. > > If we take Narayana Dasa of D24 chart you will see that Taurus dasa has been running from 1995 to the present and is nearly over. Taurus houses the combination of Mars and Venus that aspects your 9th house. What do you think about Gemini dasa coming up next? It is the 8th house, and its lord is conjoined the 5th lord in Lagna. The 5th house is concerned with spirituality, and the 4th from there (8th house) is the learning of the same. So maybe you might be taking a break from your studies to pursue something more spiritual. No doubt you will be thinking a lot about post-grad, since Jupiter is lord of the 2nd, but you can't go on to that until you complete 9th house first.. > > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > healing spaces <healingspaces@ gmail.com> > sohamsa@ .com > Saturday, December 30, 2006 2:09:19 PM > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama krsna > Dear Michal, > > > Its always great to gather inputs from all on a great forum like this ... And i must congratulate YOU that u caught a great nerve that is troubling me in my life. I have finished my higher education. Further i joined a > five yr BACHELORS course in architecture and design. My first 9 semesters had me being topping in all subjects, which created lots of jealousy around me... Moreover i was having a lot of family troubles at the background,which still continue. My tenth semster which includes writing a thesis , has gone for a long stretch after this and yes i have still not completed it. it still has to go through last stages of submission and viva, as i can never leave a > hope.I have not failed yet but it has delayed for more than 4 yrs. The delay has occured due to my perfectionist attitude, my lost ability to overcome situations, lost relationships and the overarching family issues. In mean time yes i have started freelancing and sustaining myself financially, yet i would not say i am settled in career. > > Sharing all this information, for study purposes. U could comment of birth rectification. I have gone over trying to rectify but never succeded. > > > Would love to know when will i finish and get my degree in hand? Are there any remedies particularly for > same.Still a HOPE to pursue post-grad. Any HOPE? or possibility of working abroad? > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > Swati > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/30/06, Michal Dziwulski < > > > > > > > > > nearmichal > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Swati, > > Hope you don't mind my input. In your D24 chart Rahu and Ketu occupy the 2nd house which is seen for post graduate study ie. Masters, Honours. This can be overcome if a strong Jupiter associates, as he will want you to continue learning. Has your chart been rectified? Also 9th lord Sun going to the 10th house would indicate an end to bachelor level education and entering into work. Rahu and Ketu are the only other planets aspecting the 9th house. Did you complete your higher education? If you did then maybe the Lagna has to be shifted. Please share your experience for the purpose of learning. > > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > ----- Original Message ---- > > healing spaces healingspaces@ ... > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > Friday, December 29, 2006 1:01:08 PM > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krsna > > Pranam Sweeji, > > > No > i am not married yet ...Altough i have had a past relationship. And am > not planning to get married yet .. Want to go abraod and pursue post-grad and > research in design and architecture. Don't know if this is possible. > > > u > mentioned badhakesh period till 2012 . i think later to that even i > will be running badhaksthan pisces chara dasha till 2020. When do u > forsee marriage ? > > 'Demented quite, I must have been if I did not suggest Pearl as an upaya. Tis not for you to adorn.' > Did u mean this is MUST for me.. ?What about emerald ? > > > Swati > > > Om gurave namah > > > > > > > On 12/29/06, > Swee Chan sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Swati, > > Namaste > > > > Demented quite, I must have been if I did not suggest Pearl as an upaya. Tis not for you to adorn. Badhakesh period extends to 2012 > > Challenges in area of spousal affairs. Are you married yet? If so, wouldn't you wish upon a star that he'd be a cutting edge more spiritual? > > > > Love, > > > > Swee > > > > > > On 12/28/06 10:11 PM, "healing spaces" <healingspaces@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > Pranam Sweeji, and members > > > > Here are the birth details > > Date 15th april 1979 > > time 18: 05 > > place jaipur city , rajasthan 75 E 49 26 N 55 > > Definitely shall figure out on my own about which audio it was ..:)Shall look forward for the worthy discussions. on pointers like kevala mahyogada, vaiseshikamsa and other discourses. > > gemstones and physical holdings always carry a fancy ...and more positive feeling of holding. > > > > Wishes > > Swati > > Namah Shivya : Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > On 12/28/06, Swee Chan sweechan@mac . com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Swati, > > Namaste > > > > Can you give your deets again? Sorry, can't seem to find the time (without disturbance) to listen to the mp3's including the ones I've bought :| > > > > Love, > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > On 12/28/06 12:19 PM, "healing spaces" <healingspaces@ gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://gmail. com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama krsna > > Dear Sweeji, > > Are u talking about Narshimaji books that contains information on yogada and vaiseshika. I still have to pick up that book. Do u know which audio contains the details. > > In my chart mars and mercury form kevala mahayogada, would they turn beneficiary for me ..or still remain dhrita badhak and problem creators. > > In vaiseshikamsa i have sun with high strength and exalted in many divisional charts ...but is functional malefic for my chart and also in gandhta. > > u had prescribed me pearl seeing the rising ascendant hasta nakshatra and also acc to dwisaptati dasha. while for emerald u see sometimes the best remedies is to initiate the debilated planet... > > Now Anuj ji with suggests citrine with his conclusions. Vistiji recommends no stones.. > > It wil be good if i compile it all together for study purpose..... and we could reach some lasting conclusions. .Wishing my Guru is around..and would enrich this discussion.. > > Lastly i am seeign this as more a learning process.. as i really dont see myself making any investments in near future, until it costs me less.Just for curosity sake.. Bharat ji what do the yantras cost ? > > > > Swati > > > > > > > > On 12/28/06, swami swami_rcs > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > II Om Gurave Namah II > > Hari om , Friend, > > Dear Sarvashree swee and Anuj, > > Thanks to both of you.In light of hint from Swee and analysis > > of Swati chart, based on concept by Anuj ,if combined: I understand > > we can check prescription of Gems in critical cases. In fact Swati > > chart and her wearing of Gems case is interesting for , it breeds ground > > for correct application of this small segment of Vedic knowledge. > > By the way concept of Yogi and Avayogi may be a part of Achyut > > parampara, since during Panchang lecture Pt Sanjay has asked his > > students to work out Yoga point and other details , that he promised to > > discuss next time. > > Concept of Yoga avyoga is well adopted in west and Late sh.H.R Shanker > > has also written about it in Astrological Magazine .Jyotish tool , > > Digital jyotish,Astroloka etc are good software and DJ is excellent to give > > a fair trial to Teachings of Sh.H.R.S.Iyer' s work. > > I feel in spite of differences we should continue to share knowledge. > > Lastly i thank both of you and Visti and of course Swati who has permitted > > discussion on her chart on open forum. > > > > > > > > Sarve Bhavantu Sukhinah > > Sarve Santu Niramaya > > Sarve Bhadrani Pasyantu > > Ma Kashchid Dukh Bhaag Bhaveit > > HARI OM TATSAT > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- > > R.C.Srivastava > > For Consultation -Service > > E-mail : swami_rcs > > > > 199,MMIG "Guru Kripa" > > Shaheed Nagar. 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Guest guest Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Hare rama Krsna Respected Michal . Thanks, So if i start from scorpio, how do i proceed with yrs. Scorpio 1979-1981April Sagittarius 1981-1992April Aries 1992-1993April Leo 1993-2004 April Virgo 2004 -2006 April Capricorn 2006-2012 April What is the difference in two narayan dashas, staring from Scorpio and Virgo ( JHS format). So the coming dasha is gemini or capricorn? Swati Namah Shivaya On 1/14/07, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote: > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Swati, > > Determine the concerned house in Rasi (4th house for formal education), > determine the lord of the concerend house in the Rasi chart, and then take > the sign occupied by the Graha in the concerend divisional chart and > calculate Narayana Dasa from the sign it occupies (or the 7th from it > depending on strength). > There are options for this in Jagannatha Hora. Just make the Dasa start > from Scorpio in your case as this has 4th Lord from Rasi Jupiter. Otherwise > the default is giving you Narayana dasa starting from your 12th lord in > Rasi, Sun. This is all from Sanjay's Narayana Dasa book. > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > healing spaces <healingspaces > > > Saturday, January 13, 2007 7:44:17 AM > Re: Siddhamsa [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om > Krishna Guru] > > Hare Rama Krsna > Dear Michal, gurus and members, > Sorry it was my mistake . yes Saturn confers rajyogas, but not > associations with royalty.keeping scorpio as lagna with saturn and rahu as > 4th house lords. i was looking for one lord to have royal connections. > How do we start the narayana Dasha from 4th house .Any options in JHS? > Okie i digged some more points for sagitarius: sun as 9th lord. Sun is my > 10th house lord from moon in rashi, sun is placed in ketu star. Ketu is > karak of buildings. > But at other point scorpio: moon as 9th lord aspected by sun, saturn in > 9th house. saturn is in leo sign in rashi and venus star, 10th to my moon . > Okie one thing , does rahu ketu create problems in the house of apara > vidya or aspecting it , vs the sitting or aspecting the sustainence/ marak > to these houses. And saturn can create more delay sitting in houses of > aparavidya or again aspecting the sustainense marak . i hope i am clear with > my query ? > Swati > Namah Shivaya > > > On 1/12/07, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal <nearmichal >> wrote: > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > Saturn in Cancer in 1st or 10th houses doesn't give Rajyoga? What about > > the charts of Indira Ghandi and George Bush? > > > > Also, have you thought about starting Narayana Dasa of D24 chart from > > the 4th house of formal education. This will be different to the one you > > are using which starts from the 12th house. > > > > Respectfully, > > Michal > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > healing spaces <healingspaces > > > <> > > Friday, January 12, 2007 6:58:40 PM > > Re: Siddhamsa [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om > > Krishna Guru] > > > > Dear Michalji, Rafalji, and other learned memebers > > thanks Rafalji for delving with my questions... And michalji for > > getting into minute details to see the d-24. > > here are the answers to what u asked. Please correct me where i went > > wrong and also i have written some questions . > > Here are some more doubts..and a brief analysis of my D-24 chart > > 15th april 1979 , place jaipur city ( 75 E 49 , 26 N 55) > > Option 1. Sagitarius as lagna in D-24 (Recorded time 18:05) > > Moon in 1st house, with lot of attention to education. Also my mothers > > attention in my education as she herself is in education field. 1st > > lord and 4th lord Jupiter in 12th with 7th and 10th lord. A desire, > > motivation objective, to go till Ph D level in a abroad place altough with . > > fourth lord in 12th necessarliy may not mean formal school education studies > > abraod, but the objective as being the karyesh lord. > > > > Also 4th lord , dont know if i can see mother from this, but Jupiter as > > lord shows her excelence as professor. jupiter mercury have planetary > > aspects by venus and mars, rings a bell of influence of Ak and design, art > > architecture, adding to my intellectual base. i was running taurus dasha > > when i started my design course. Also rashi aspect of rahu ketu, saturn > > to the 1st and 4th lord, showing delays and struggles throughout. > > > > Now coming to formal education. 4th lord is dual sign so can indicate a > > change altough its placed in fixed rashi , so doesnt bring a shift in place. > > the first school was convent, foreign influence and all girls school > > joined in virgo narayan dasha. the second school was a school with little > > royal association s and a co-ed. the change happened when i was in capricorn > > -pisces dasha .Pisces is my 4th house here so a time to alter. this happened > > in 1993 > > > > Taurus Dasha, starts in 1995. have placement of venus and mars, took > > science as subjects, but was very sure that i want to do architecture and > > design , so unlike other students in my class, was not very interested in > > IIT. > > taurus -scorpio dasha i joined my 5yrs course in interior architecture > > in ahmedabad. Change of place to south west. Here come the question ? > > > > Can the 9th lord sun in 10th house with rashi aspect of moon, be > > sufficeint to give me education in design architecture, interiors, > > furniture. Well to an extant sun and moon are the two sides of coin, of the > > abstract and the concrete, and i always work with these layers, when i > > design . The running taurus dasha with venus and mars there could be a > > strong infulence to add the visual beauty to it. > > Rahu ketu aspect the 9th house with rashi dhriti so somm foriegn > > influences strongly, knowing that we .saturn aspects the 10th house which is > > the sustainer and the marak house to my bachelors degree. saturn is also > > transiting cancer since two yrs, and has given me delay. 9th lord in 10th > > Sun could also mean i got involved in doing jobs, or there were felt > > obstructions from family as sun and moon are strongly influencing the 10th > > house. So there are invariably enough indications of problems at the > > bachelors level. > > > > How does one see this when will this end? What is the role of saturn® > > and sun here in delay and sustainence? in my rashi chart the saturn is in > > leo, while here it is in cancer? > > > > Now if i finish and get a degree are there chances of post grad? > > Will education end at bachelors due to rahu ketu aspect to 9th? > > > > 2 house has rahu, ketu, so strong influence of foreign .2nd lord > > capricorn is aspected by saturn graha dhristi. in terms of rashi dhristi > > there are aspects of jupiter, merc, mars, venus. So the house is strong. i > > wil be going into gemini dasha soon, which is aspected by sun and moon > > placed in kendra. Gemini is also badhaksthana. > > > > Option 2. Scorpio as lagna in D24 (18:00) > > Jupiter and mercury in 1st house , good intelligence with digbal. Mars > > as lagna lord with venus in 7th house, motivation again coloured by art > > design , architecture, with planetary aspects of jupiter , mercury . > > 4th house rashi is aquarius, co-lorded by rahu in 2nd in capricorn and > > saturn in 9th in cancer rashi . Could show two schools. The first school , > > with different religion as i was in convent school, and second with > > traditional orthodox name setup. Saturn in cancer in 1st and 10th , as told > > by my Guru, doesnt confer rajyoga ,saturn is nothing like royal, infact > > could mean questionable birth. Well Sawai Man Singh to jaipur is royal, i > > would like to believe and this school was founded by Gayatri Devi. > > > > Moreover 4th lord in 9th house, can show relation between my initial > > study continues at the bachelors level. 9th lord in 2nd can show > > continuation of bachelors into masters. 2nd lord in 1st house with aspect of > > 7th lord venus , can even show masters if dasha allows. 9th house being > > badhaksthana and deposited with saturn , can be the reason of delay. Also > > considerably a bachelors course is three yrs, while our campus has it for 5 > > and half yrs. > > > > Now 10th lord is sun, and the tenth is house is marak and sustainer, > > there is again a rahu ketu rashi aspect to the sustaining house, with none > > other. How is this different from rahu ketu aspect to 9th house of bachelors > > education as seen in scorpio lagna vs the 10th house aspect? > > > > Also saturn is 8th to moon , and saturn was kantaka sani for the varga > > chart as it was transiting cancer since last two yrs, So could have been the > > cause of delay . the delay and probelms to 9th house education should be > > seen from 9th house itself or specifically the tenth ? > > In sagitarius lagna saturn aspects the 10th house where 9th lord sun is > > sitting. > > In scorpio lagna saturn is sitting in cancer 9th house itself > > badhaksthana . > > > > What are the possibilites of post-grad education in this scorpio lagna , > > when the sustainence house has rahu ketu sitting there. also does this > > indicate post grad abraod? 9th lord moon is sitting in 2nd house , and 2nd > > lord jupiter is sitting in lagna . Rahu ketu in the sustanence house. with > > the coming gemini dasha being 8th house , would it give post grad? > > > > Please look at these two different options. > > I have yet not got my bachelors degree in hand. Until i do that masters > > is impossible. Which chart looks right and what are the chances in each case > > to continue in post-grad. > > > > swati > > namah shivaya > > > > > > On 1/10/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl>> > > wrote: > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > *Dear Swati, Namaskar!* > > > *Please find my comments below.* > > > *Hopefully red is agni..forget me wednesday!* > > > *Regards* > > > *Rafal Gendarz* > > > > > > > > > - > > > ** healing spaces <healingspaces > > > > *To:* <> ; sohamsa@ > > > .com <sohamsa> ; nearmichal <nearmichal >; paramaguru@gro > > > ups.com <paramaguru> > > > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 10, 2007 7:06 AM > > > *Subject:* Re: Siddhamsa [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om > > > Krishna Guru] > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah > > > Dear Michal, Gurus and members > > > Sanjayji's lectures on Siddhamsa are wonderful and i wil like to thank > > > him for he wonderful resources provided by him for learning. i remember my > > > first discussion with my guru was also in d-24. I am learning so much > > > through this discussion Michal ji . Even trying to apply it on the charts of > > > my known ones and friends from campus. > > > Altough here are some basic Some doubts on D-24, Please help me > > > through them. > > > 1. What will the significant things that come in play when 1st house > > > placements are rahu ketu. > > > > > > [rafal] As Nodes afflicts Akasha Tattwa it usually gives bad education > > > or lack of inspiration to learn. It should be confirmed with Jupiter > > > position. Jupiter in D9 shows how one learns through God help, D24 how one > > > learns in area or for para-/apara siddhi. Nodes shows also ending point of > > > education and this should be studied with 4L - goal which one would like to > > > reach in educational spheres of life. Lagna is Brahma-sthana where one is > > > awaken to create new possibilites therefore kendra to Lagna in Padakrama > > > Dasa (southern name) shows new beginings to You while Kendra to Surya shows > > > new begining to outside resources..Lagna in every Varga shows fame and > > > attitude related to that area therefore Sani in D20-Ascendent give sadness > > > in spiritual matters. Rahu will give too much thinking while Ketu > > > overconfidence. > > > > > > > > > 2. How would one proceed when rahu ketu are in 4th house. does it mean > > > problems or end at formal education. how would it differ from rahu ketu > > > rashi dhristi aspect to the 4th house. How would it differ from graha > > > drishti aspect. And in what conditions does it allow forward movement in > > > education > > > > > > *[rafal] Forth bhava is Ganesha sthana where education begins. > > > Therefore kids in Gurukula's pray to Ganapati. It has to do with Prhtvi > > > Tattwa and Muladhara chakra. Forth bhava is karyabhava here and malefics > > > there are very bad. Person can have good attitude (Lagna0 but events / > > > situation can make Him sad and discouraged (argala). If malefics are in > > > forth, lordship of that sthana will show cause (Surya (karaka of > > > dispositor) - creator) and independently forth lord shows objective while > > > Lagnesh shows what motivate You to start.. Do You catch the difference? > > > * > > > > > > > > > 3. 5th house or 10th house are marak houses to formal education and > > > bachelors education. What will rahu ketu placements do in marak houses > > > placements. > > > > > > *[rafal] Fifth is root of paravidya science and it fruits(11) are seen > > > by hearing properly guru upadesa and initating good and peaceful (not himsa > > > - benefic in third and without obstacles - aspects 9H) methods to get things > > > done. Fifth in D24 also shows hobbies and for example I have nodes there > > > which shows dabbling with Jyotish. Mangal and Ketu (papargal on enemy of > > > karaka of 4h) in 5H shows mind filled with too much extravertism which put > > > the person out of home and study and get into gangs and that kind of things. > > > Tenth house shows how You teach (see Devata) planets there shows what > > > sustains/breaks college-step so give proper Upadesa to Your clients based on > > > that.* > > > > > > > > > 4 What kind of studies can be actually shown by rahu, ketu: Can they > > > play any role? in todays age when we do most of our learning through > > > internet, computers? Also rahu ketu are known as planets for radical > > > or futuristic inventions. Consider some body studying interactive > > > embedded technology, nanotechnology. What planets wil play role? > > > > > > [rafal] Lot depends on signs. Prthvi are more connected to money while > > > watery to intelectual jobs (they can also give passions in rasi). Rahu can > > > indicate politics or philosophy also. In my chart I have 9H scorpio with two > > > lords - one is Mangal with Sani (engineering with construtction that was my > > > first study which I broke) and Ketu is with Rahu in Cancer in fifth bhava - > > > my 2nd college is philosophy. Rahu shows independent (3H) eagerness and > > > stance to get things without help of Guru so beware of students which has > > > Ra/Sa in 1/5 from Lagna in D1 without AK in kona(s). > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. do we at any time consider graha aspects in these charts. > > > > > > [rafal] Yes, every tool should be used if its a) relevant and b) > > > properly applied. > > > > > > > > > 7. how would narayana dasha dictate and can change ur course of study. > > > Imagine a person doing bachelors degree, and the person is running narayan > > > dasha of the 7th house which denotes the ending to education in certain way > > > . > > > > > > [rafal] Start D24 Narayana dasa from 4L(D1) for apara vidya siddhi's > > > > > > 8. Shall post another mail for the questions u asked Michal on my D-24 > > > Scorpio and Sagitarrius. > > > Thanks in advance. > > > Swati > > > Om gurave namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/10/07, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal <nearmichal >> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > > > I think I have the lectures you are talking about. > > > > > > > > Sorry, there seems to have been some confusion. Your 4th house is > > > > Aquarius - so... has two lords. These two represent your two schools in > > > > Jaipur. You mentioned one had some royal affiliation - so I pointed out > > > > Saturn in Cancer, as it is a combination for royalty. > > > > > > > > Two major points that you still have not been able to answer > > > > regarding Sagitarius Lagna are: > > > > 1. Why did you not go overseas for your primary level education as > > > > Jupiter is 4th Lord in the 12th. > > > > 2. Why do Rahu and Ketu in the 2nd house not end the education. > > > > > > > > 9th lord in 10th can give problems, but what kind of problems? > > > > Usually related to work, ending the education and joining the workforce > > > > career - 10th house. Or if the 7th house is involved, getting married, or > > > > if the 12th house is involved going travelling etc. > > > > > > > > Sun is photography. But architecture is more Mars don't you think? > > > > Design is definately Venus. Moon is more caring, nuturing, healing. > > > > > > > > What about Moon in badhaksthana from Gemini dasa causing travel? > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > designhologram <healingspaces > > > > > <> > > > > Wednesday, January 10, 2007 12:12:03 PM > > > > Siddhamsa [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om > > > > Krishna Guru] > > > > > > > > *Hare Rama Krsna , > > > > dear Michal, Gurus and members > > > > Found some more siddhamsa lectures by Sanjay Rathiji, don't know > > > > from where i picked them, but are not from atri it seems. they are saved > > > > from august on my computer. If u need them i can pass those too. The > > > > discussion on his chart is very interesting . And there are some more points > > > > than the Atri Audio:) > > > > I have put some doubts on ur comments and recent addition to my > > > > listening the new audios. > > > > > > > > Yes scorpio seems to be more positive also at the level of phd. and > > > > directly takes my attention, but delay and problems in 9th house has made > > > > me more skeptical. my notes in blue > > > > > > > > The same school can have many different meanings for all people. > > > > Someone that was badly bullied there will have different combinations to > > > > signify their schooling experience. > > > > First see the planets in the 9th house, then the Lord, and then the > > > > aspects. In this order we can see the higher education. > > > > Don�t you think its interesting that your school, represented by the > > > > 4th lord Saturn, transformed into a University, as it is placed in the 9th > > > > house? > > > > No its not my school that turned into college or university. my two > > > > schools were in jaipur, one being convent girls school , and other being a > > > > co-ed royal school. infact college is in different city all together. i > > > > moved from jaipur to ahmedabad , towards slight south west. the college that > > > > i was studyingis very focused to designwith no other faculties turned into > > > > deemed university in later years. Also its important to know that the > > > > bachelors i was going through is five yrs, where first 6 semesters are in > > > > college, the next semester of six months is job, the next thee semesters are > > > > in college. Then we have a thesis (which is almost like a phd thesis at > > > > times, and people)it is this thesis which i delayed in. sometimes i feel i > > > > am doing phd and gemini Also probably my convocation to this degree wil > > > > happen in gemini dasha. > > > > Sagitarius > > > > Some new views i heard in these new audios was , that the 4th lord > > > > placemnt shows the seed and final desire to education and 7th lord shows the > > > > end to formal education till phd level. In this case 4th lord with 7th lord > > > > in 12th house can be positive sign for abroad possibilities. Also he > > > > mentions that if 9th lord in 10th can create problem in finishing the > > > > bachelors. cant the moon aspect from lagna to sun indicate architecture, > > > > design, photography. i am just considering if we my time was any way right > > > > as 18:05, than what do i do remedy it. And give me post-grad. 4 yrs delay , > > > > and my in between working can attribute to its break. Hope this is not the > > > > case, but are there any positive ends to it? Also i know in soem way family > > > > has also been reason for certain delay. > > > > Scorpio > > > > Delay is Saturn. Always mean nodes. > > > > So my spiritual education , since it is lord of 3rd house is > > > > distracting my delay:) > > > > > > > > Look at it this way. Does the lord of any house going to another > > > > house have any significance? It must. What about the Arudhapada of the 2nd > > > > falling in the 12th house? > > > > Moon can indicate the public and social things, so it can be > > > > something like the design of a town, or buildings that have to do with the > > > > public like halls, meeting places etc. > > > > Hope i do this, and work around same direction:) i wil be so glad. > > > > any remedies that i can pursue for the coming dasha, and timing of when i > > > > wil go. > > > > Respectfully, > > > > Swati > > > > * > > > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > > > > > I never said that Saturn would give rajayoga to you. All I said > > > > > was that if we were to take Saturn in Cancer as Lagna for one of your > > > > > schools, then the school would have the charachteristics of some rajyoga ie. > > > > > be prestigious, royal etc. > > > > > > > > > > If Sagitarius was the Lagna then how would you explain design? > > > > > Lord of the ninth is Sun in Virgo and the 9th is aspected by the nodes. Let > > > > > us first try to be straight - 9th house is for bachelor level education. > > > > > > > > > > Sagitarius > > > > > Why would the 1st lord going to the 12th give overseas education > > > > > for masters and not for primary education? Jupiter is also the 4th lord - > > > > > so don't you think that your first schooling experience (4th house) would > > > > > have been abroad? > > > > > > > > > > Scorpio > > > > > Instead, look at it this way, 2nd lord of Masters education > > > > > (Jupiter) is in the 12th from there - so your post-graduate studies will be > > > > > overseas. > > > > > Moon is in badhaksthana from Gemini and in the 7th house which > > > > > also deals with travel - so you have two conspiring to take you abroad in > > > > > this dasa. > > > > > > > > > > So is Sanjay's recent Siddhamsa lecture in English? > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to more of your thoughts. Please have a good look > > > > > at Scorpio Lagna for the reasons I have given and tell me what you think. > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > healing spaces <healingspaces > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa> > > > > > Saturday, January 6, 2007 9:06:12 AM > > > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna > > > > > Guru] > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama krsna > > > > > Dear Michal ... > > > > > Thanks for ur continous posts and interest.. I am learning a lot:) > > > > > > > > > > With scorpio 18:00 ..my badhakesh becomes 9th lord moon , while > > > > > lord of 3rd and 4th saturn placed in 9th gets placed in 9th house > > > > > badhakstha, so dont know if its rajyoga. For two yrs , saturn has been > > > > > transitting cancer, and i faced most of my delays in last two yrs, altough i > > > > > think now with saturn retro transit, will result in submission and finishing > > > > > of my viva. how will the end be seen for 9th house? it should end is > > > > > taursu-Aquarius( which antar) dasha itself > > > > > i am not so good in narayana dasha yet... cant make out what > > > > > gemini dasha wil bring and also aspect of moon ..moos is also badhakesh.. > > > > > Also if i pursue post-masters its going to be abraod so i need combination > > > > > for both:) also what would be the post masters in.. there are no aspects to > > > > > 2nd house now, so moon is going to decide the specialization course in > > > > > design? > > > > > help me to see gemini narayan dasha also. > > > > > > > > > > i see more chances of abroad in sagitarius lagna 18:05 . as the > > > > > 1st lord is in 12th and badhaksthana gemini may start operating now and > > > > > badhakesh is also in is also in 12th house. however moon has to come into > > > > > play as it aspects gemini... Also with rahu ketu in 2nd and many aspects it > > > > > can show many influences on masters degree:) > > > > > > > > > > i think i am confused now for my D-24 enough:) > > > > > > > > > > For mother ..yes possible we need to go backward for her time > > > > > too...altough at bachelors level she did sanskrit, and some other subjects > > > > > also..Specializatio n comes when she does masters..and moon has aspect to > > > > > 2nd house. venus in 6th debilated ..i dont know... also what about her > > > > > further pursuits after Ph D, writing books papers...mars in 3rd > > > > > house..karaka bhava nashao..her younger bro is not there...7th house is > > > > > afflicted though... > > > > > > > > > > Guru Sanjayjis lectures are in English mostly...so u can listen to > > > > > them... > > > > > Also sanjayji told the houses 5th , 10th , 3rd, 8th and 1st are > > > > > for spiritual pursuits and informal learning and finally self-realization. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wishes > > > > > swati > > > > > Namah Shivaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/5/07, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal <nearmichal >> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, Saturn is the significator for delay. I have asked you > > > > > > before - what do you think about Gemini dasa approaching? 9th Lord Moon is > > > > > > aspecting this sign from the 2nd house of post-graduate studies. > > > > > > If your Mother has studied psychology then perhaps Moon should > > > > > > be in the 9th house. That would put Shani in the 7th house of Phd, and as > > > > > > Shani is karaka for the 10th house it would make sense that her studies had > > > > > > the focus of 'vocation' and the psychology of that as Moon aspects. Shakti > > > > > > yoga is good if malefics are there, Mars in her case, as the this shows the > > > > > > power to overcome anger, hatred etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > healing spaces <healingspaces > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa> > > > > > > Friday, January 5, 2007 8:47:14 AM > > > > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om > > > > > > Krishna Guru] > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama krsna > > > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > > > Thanks...Does saturn show delay with rajyoga as well? with this > > > > > > D-24 when do u see a possibility of post-grad? > > > > > > My mother is a professor in psychology and has done phd in > > > > > > vocational psychology. No, i don't think she had any problems in bachelors. > > > > > > She started working in very early age by 22 after finishing her masters. She > > > > > > did PhD after her marriage i believe.She got married in May > > > > > > 1974. > > > > > > what would u say about her father from 9th house? he had > > > > > > parkinsons for many yrs and suffered a lot. She also has strong > > > > > > shakti yoga in 7th house involving Ak . So some dischords too. > > > > > > Swati > > > > > > Namah shivaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/5/07, Michal Dziwulski < nearmichal <nearmichal >> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shani in Karka gives rajyoga in the 1st or 10th houses. So, > > > > > > > if we take your 9th house in Siddhamsa and call that the Lagna for one of > > > > > > > your schools then this combination is present. > > > > > > > Can you give details about what your Mother studied? Jupiter, > > > > > > > Rahu and Ketu in Scorpio could give some kind of scientific field like > > > > > > > radiology or chemistry. Mercury and Rahu in the Navamsa Lagna indicates > > > > > > > homeopathy. The lord of the 9th is exalted but retrograde - did she have to > > > > > > > work very hard to complete her bachelor level studies? In the Rasi chart > > > > > > > Lagna Lord is exalted in the 9th with the 5th lord - I can really believe > > > > > > > she has a lot of students! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > > > > > There are many schools that have churches, I went to one myself > > > > for some time. Not every student at the school had Meena in the 4th house of > > > > D24 I'm sure. There must be other factors. > > > > > > > > > > You were born in India but this school that you attended was > > > > Catholic - is this right? If this is the case then the nodes were clearly > > > > dominating there giving you foreign influence in your education, Rahu as one > > > > lord of the 4th house. > > > > > > > > > > Then you say the 2nd school had royal association. Royalty does > > > > not just come from Aries, there are many other factors that can cause this > > > > such as Atmakaraka, association with Surya etc. What > > > > > about Shani in Karka? - this gives a very high rajayoga when > > > > placed in the 1st or 10th house. So maybe somehow it is giving some results > > > > here too. I'm not sure about this, but I'm just trying to look at it from as > > > > many angles as possible. > > > > > > > > > > If Pisces was your 4th house then the lord going to the 12th house > > > > could give primary education abroad. If we take Scorpio Lagna then 12th lord > > > > Venus and Lagnesha Mars are posted in the 7th house of travel, showing that > > > > there is the possibility of travel for the advanced education, since it > > > > aspects the 9th house. > > > > > > > > > > Also, dasa is there to time the event, the event has to be first > > > > seen in the chart. Just becasue dasa had changed from pisces to aries > > > > doesn't necessarily indicate a change. Did you got to a school on a farm > > > > just becasue the dasa changed to Taurus? And then go to a playground because > > > > dasa changed to Gemini? Do you see my point. > > > > > > > > > > I have not done any work on the D60 chart to be > > > > > honest. There is just so much to learn isn't there. > > > > > For your Mother's chart - remember that the nodes break the > > > > education unless there is the strong association of Jupiter. If there is, > > > > then education will continue. If you want you can share your mother's chart > > > > and we can look more. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > healing spaces healingspaces@ ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nearmichal > > > > > Wednesday, January 3, 2007 2:43:35 AM > > > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna > > > > Guru] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > Dear Michalji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hoping to see your valued comments on my last mail about D-24 and > > > > D-60 . > > > > > > > > > > Wishing u a great year ahead > > > > > > > > > > Swati > > > > > > > > > > Namah Shivaya > > > > > > > > > > On 12/31/06, healing spaces < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > healingspaces@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Hare Rama krsna : : Om Vyom Vyasadevaya namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Michal, My Guru and learned members... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your valued inputs..it helps me learn Please correct > > > > me whenever needed. > > > > > > > > > Yes Scorpio lagna with time 18:00 makes a lot more sense with many > > > > more reasons. But changing a lot in D-60 and getting my venus in MKS there > > > > ..and getting jupiter out of MKS.There is already a spouse curse and > > > > venus Ak is MKS in rashi, 12th in D-9 and now again MKS in D-60. So lot to > > > > handle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But some few pointers with sagitarius. > > > > > > > > > > The first lord in 12th with mercury shows possibilities of study > > > > abraod or loosing out on studies.Will > > > > > > > > > pisces in 4th house being a dual sign can also give two schools. > > > > My first school convent Sophia .Pisces indicates a place more peaceful > > > > ,ocean like with church ...But ya this school at one end had a church inside > > > > the campus but had a graveyard at back which we could see. > > > > > > > > > > The second school was a newly founded school with royal > > > > associations and name. so Aries. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Explaining the change in capricorn-pisces to capricorn -aries > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For my bachelors degree i moved towards SW of Jaipur city.Okie now > > > > coming to 9th lord leo in case of sagi, which has no aspects other than > > > > graha dhristi of rahu ketu ..yes may not show much of the background of my > > > > studies and campus of architecture and design. Sun as lord would show some > > > > govt association. this chart also is positive for masters and abroad > > > > education yet no more than masters with rahu and ketu in 2nd house. But with > > > > rahu ketu , also problem in completion of masters. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With scorpio: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It has many positives apart from getting venus out of MKS in 7th > > > > house while making Mars MKS. It gets mercury and jupiter in lagna also > > > > making me intelligent and interested in astrology. With cancer as lord of > > > > 9th house, it now gets lot many aspects of mars venus, jupiter mercury with > > > > rashi dhristi and rahu ketu with graha dhristi. > > > > > > > > > > By the way in our education we never had exams or written papers > > > > at all. All we had was juries and submissions, lot of model making, drafting > > > > , sketching and hard work keeping up late in nights..So what i succeded > > > > mostly was keeping getting my ideas to jury and teachers , while collecting > > > > lot of jealousy among the batchmates. > > > > > Does scorpio give masters and abraod studies? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now a lot changes with D-60 ..the options are again : (Sagi in > > > > D-24 with taurus in D-60 sarpa amsa rising , Venus in 4th ) or (scorpio in > > > > D-24 with pisces in D-60, indu amsa rising, venus in 6th ). > > > > > > > > > > Some pointers...I have had some accidents with head injury and eye > > > > afflictions and teeth issues. little problems and differences in home > > > > enviornment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rest later after ur valued comments. i have been trying these > > > > techniques with some other charts ...and getting either very good results or > > > > not so good . Especially my mothers chart has rahu ketu jupiter in 9th in > > > > D-24 but she has done PHD and is a professor. Would i rectify her chart too? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swati > > > > > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Shreem mahalakshmai namah : : Namah Shivaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wish u all a great yr ahead and ur family...and may light shine in > > > > all of us. Bless me with more aparvidya:) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/31/06, Michal Dziwulski nearmichal > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If we make Scorpio the Lagna for your D24 chart then Aquarius will > > > > be the 4th house. There are two lords, so you attended two schools. Rahu > > > > will indicate the school with more of a foreign influence - like a different > > > > religion, or different social values etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If Sagitarius is the Lagna then the Sun would be the 9th lord, > > > > and, I could be wrong, but I don't see how the Sun in Virgo would indicate > > > > Architecture and Design. Then also the Nodes would be aspecting the 9th > > > > house by Rasi drsti and putting an end to any further education. And how > > > > would we explain the top marks you get? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We always use mean nodes for natal horoscopes. > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > > [ Om Namo > > > > > Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > healing spaces <healingspaces@ > > > > > gmail.com> > > > > > To: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > ; nearmichal > > > > > Sunday, December 31, 2006 8:41:47 AM > > > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna > > > > Guru] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna, > > > > > Dear Michal , > > > > > > > > > > Sorry that was a mistype where i missed the word. i have not > > > > finished higher education. > > > > > i did my schooling from two schools in same town. Shifted from > > > > convent school to more a royal school in 1993. this was i think during > > > > narayana dasha shift of cap-pisces to cap-taurus. After my 12th standard, i > > > > joined this design and architecture 5 yr course away from my home town. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So do u see scorpio as my lagna, that would bring my time to > > > > 18:00. i have tried this rectification before. Wil saturn in 9th suffice for > > > > the delay that i have faced. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry i am confused do we use true nodes option or mean nodes and > > > > explanation for same.i think i tinkered the default settings. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Swati > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om gurave namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/31/06, Michal Dziwulski > > > > > nearmichal > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having a further look I realised I had missed an important factor. > > > > In the D24 Narayana dasa of Gemini the 9th lord is strongly aspecting the > > > > dasa rasi. This is certainly a positive indication for the completion of > > > > your degree. Sorry for the confusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Michal Dziwulski nearmichal > > > > > > To: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > > Sunday, December 31, 2006 7:57:48 AM > > > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > > > > > When you say you finished your higher education, what did you > > > > study before? Currently you are doing architecture and design, but did you > > > > study anything before this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If we were to move the D24 Lagna to Scorpio then this is how I > > > > would see it - Jupiter and Mercury with Dig Bala in the first house giving > > > > an excellent student - remember Lagna in any divisional chart is you. 9th > > > > house has retrograde Shani showing delays in the completion of these > > > > studies. 9th Lord going to 2nd house showing that these studies will have to > > > > lead to post graduate pursuits. Architecture requires a lot of understanding > > > > of engineering and is very logical, whereas design is more artistic - and > > > > here we > > > > > would have the combination of Mars (Lagnesha) and Venus aspecting > > > > the 9th house. That duo in the Lagna also aspects the 9th house which would > > > > explain all those high marks. > > > > > > > > > > If we take Narayana Dasa of D24 chart you will see that Taurus > > > > dasa has been running from 1995 to the present and is nearly over. Taurus > > > > houses the combination of Mars and Venus that aspects your 9th house. What > > > > do you think about Gemini dasa coming up next? It is the 8th house, and its > > > > lord is conjoined the 5th lord in Lagna. The 5th house is concerned with > > > > spirituality, and the 4th from there (8th house) is the learning of the > > > > same. So maybe you might be taking a break from your studies to pursue > > > > something more spiritual. No doubt you will be thinking a lot about > > > > post-grad, since Jupiter is lord of the 2nd, but you can't go on to that > > > > until you complete 9th house first. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > healing spaces <healingspaces@ gmail.com> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > Saturday, December 30, 2006 2:09:19 PM > > > > > > > > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna > > > > Guru] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama krsna > > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Its always great to gather inputs from all on a great forum like > > > > this ... And i must congratulate YOU that u caught a great nerve that is > > > > troubling me in my life. I have finished my higher education. Further i > > > > joined a > > > > > five yr BACHELORS course in architecture and design. My first 9 > > > > semesters had me being topping in all subjects, which created lots of > > > > jealousy around me.. Moreover i was having a lot of family troubles at the > > > > background,which still continue. My tenth semster which includes writing a > > > > thesis , has gone for a long stretch after this and yes i have still not > > > > completed it. it still has to go through last stages of submission and viva, > > > > as i can never leave a > > > > > hope.I have not failed yet but it has delayed for more than 4 yrs. > > > > The delay has occured due to my perfectionist attitude, my lost ability to > > > > overcome situations, lost relationships and the overarching family issues. > > > > In mean time yes i have started freelancing and sustaining myself > > > > financially, yet i would not say i am settled in career. > > > > > > > > > > Sharing all this information, for study purposes. U could comment > > > > of birth rectification. I have gone over trying to rectify but never > > > > succeded. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would love to know when will i finish and get my degree in hand? > > > > Are there any remedies particularly for > > > > > same.Still a HOPE to pursue post-grad. Any HOPE? or possibility of > > > > working abroad? > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swati > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/30/06, Michal Dziwulski < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nearmichal > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > > > > > Hope you don't mind my input. In your D24 chart Rahu and Ketu > > > > occupy the 2nd house which is seen for post graduate study ie. Masters, > > > > Honours. This can be overcome if a strong Jupiter associates, as he will > > > > want you to continue learning. Has your chart been rectified? Also 9th lord > > > > Sun going to the 10th house would indicate an end to bachelor level > > > > education and entering into work. Rahu and Ketu are the only other planets > > > > aspecting the 9th house. Did you complete your higher education? If you did > > > > then maybe the Lagna has to be shifted. Please share your experience for the > > > > purpose of learning. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > healing spaces healingspaces@ ... > > > > > To: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > > Friday, December 29, 2006 1:01:08 PM > > > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna > > > > Guru] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krsna > > > > > > > > > > Pranam Sweeji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No > > > > > i am not married yet ...Altough i have had a past relationship. > > > > And am > > > > > not planning to get married yet .. Want to go abraod and pursue > > > > post-grad and > > > > > research in design and architecture. Don't know if this is > > > > possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > u > > > > > mentioned badhakesh period till 2012 . i think later to that even > > > > i > > > > > will be running badhaksthan pisces chara dasha till 2020. When do > > > > u > > > > > forsee marriage ? > > > > > > > > > > 'Demented quite, I must have been if I did not suggest Pearl as an > > > > upaya. Tis not for you to adorn.' > > > > > Did u mean this is MUST for me.. ?What about emerald ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swati > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om gurave namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/29/06, > > > > > Swee Chan sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Demented quite, I must have been if I did not suggest Pearl as an > > > > upaya. Tis not for you to adorn. Badhakesh period extends to 2012 > > > > > > > > > > Challenges in area of spousal affairs. Are you married yet? If so, > > > > wouldn't you wish upon a star that he'd be a cutting edge more spiritual? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/28/06 10:11 PM, "healing spaces" <healingspaces@ gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > > > > > > > Pranam Sweeji, and members > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the birth details > > > > > > > > > > Date 15th april 1979 > > > > > > > > > > time 18: 05 > > > > > > > > > > place jaipur city , rajasthan 75 E 49 26 N 55 > > > > > > > > > > Definitely shall figure out on my own about which audio it was > > > > ..:)Shall look forward for the worthy discussions. on pointers like kevala > > > > mahyogada, vaiseshikamsa and other discourses. > > > > > > > > > > gemstones and physical holdings always carry a fancy ...and more > > > > positive feeling of holding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wishes > > > > > > > > > > Swati > > > > > > > > > > Namah Shivya : Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/28/06, Swee Chan sweechan@mac . com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Swati, > > > > > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you give your deets again? Sorry, can't seem to find the time > > > > (without disturbance) to listen to the mp3's including the ones I've bought > > > > :| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/28/06 12:19 PM, "healing spaces" <healingspaces@ gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://gmail. com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama krsna > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sweeji, > > > > > > > > > > Are u talking about Narshimaji books that contains information on > > > > yogada and vaiseshika. I still have to pick up that book. Do u know which > > > > audio contains the details. > > > > > > > > > > In my chart mars and mercury form kevala mahayogada, would they > > > > turn beneficiary for me ..or still remain dhrita badhak and problem > > > > creators. > > > > > > > > > > In vaiseshikamsa i have sun with high strength and exalted in many > > > > divisional charts ...but is functional malefic for my chart and also in > > > > gandhta. > > > > > > > > > > u had prescribed me pearl seeing the rising ascendant hasta > > > > nakshatra and also acc to dwisaptati dasha. while for emerald u see > > > > sometimes the best remedies is to initiate the debilated planet... > > > > > > > > > > Now Anuj ji with suggests citrine with his conclusions. Vistiji > > > > recommends no stones.. > > > > > > > > > > It wil be good if i compile it all together for study purpose..... > > > > and we could reach some lasting conclusions. .Wishing my Guru is around..and > > > > would enrich this discussion.. > > > > > > > > > > Lastly i am seeign this as more a learning process.. as i really > > > > dont see myself making any investments in near future, until it costs me > > > > less.Just for curosity sake.. Bharat ji what do the yantras cost ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swati > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/28/06, swami swami_rcs > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > II Om Gurave Namah II > > > > > > > > > > Hari om , Friend, > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sarvashree swee and Anuj, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to both of you.In light of hint from Swee and analysis > > > > > > > > > > of Swati chart, based on concept by Anuj ,if combined: I > > > > understand > > > > > > > > > > we can check prescription of Gems in critical cases. In fact Swati > > > > > > > > > > > > > > chart and her wearing of Gems case is interesting for , it breeds > > > > ground > > > > > > > > > > for correct application of this small segment of Vedic knowledge. > > > > > > > > > > By the way concept of Yogi and Avayogi may be a part of Achyut > > > > > > > > > > parampara, since during Panchang lecture Pt Sanjay has asked his > > > > > > > > > > students to work out Yoga point and other details , that he > > > > promised to > > > > > > > > > > discuss next time. > > > > > > > > > > Concept of Yoga avyoga is well adopted in west and Late sh.H.RShanker > > > > > > > > > > has also written about it in Astrological Magazine .Jyotish tool , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Digital jyotish,Astroloka etc are good software and DJ is > > > > excellent to give > > > > > > > > > > a fair trial to Teachings of Sh.H.R.S.Iyer' s work. > > > > > > > > > > I feel in spite of differences we should continue to share > > > > knowledge. > > > > > > > > > > Lastly i thank both of you and Visti and of course Swati who has > > > > permitted > > > > > > > > > > discussion on her chart on open forum. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarve Bhavantu Sukhinah > > > > > > > > > > Sarve Santu Niramaya > > > > > > > > > > Sarve Bhadrani Pasyantu > > > > > > > > > > Ma Kashchid Dukh Bhaag Bhaveit > > > > > > > > > > HARI OM TATSAT > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- > > > > > > > > > > R.C.Srivastava > > > > > > > > > > For Consultation -Service > > > > > > > > > > E-mail : swami_rcs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 199,MMIG "Guru Kripa" > > > > > > > > > > Shaheed Nagar. 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Guest guest Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Swati, Under options in Narayana Dasa for D24 chart, change the "start dasas from" field from default > to > Scorpio. Starting the Narayana Dasa from the 4th lord you see specifically the timing for formal education. This is instead of the default which uses the 12th lord. Actually Libra dasa is coming, which is the 12th house. Pisces dasa was running before this and Sun is placed in the 7th from it in badhaksthana, which could indicate obstructions from Father, it is also 10th lord so can also show working. Badhakesh Mercury is also in the 9th from dasa Rasi indicating obstruction. Have a look at your chart again with this more appropriate method of timing and let us know. Respectfully, Michal [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] healing spaces <healingspaces > Sunday, January 14, 2007 8:08:15 PM Re: Siddhamsa [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Hare rama Krsna Respected Michal . Thanks, So if i start from scorpio, how do i proceed with yrs. Scorpio 1979-1981April Sagittarius 1981-1992April Aries 1992-1993April Leo 1993-2004 April Virgo 2004 -2006 April Capricorn 2006-2012 April What is the difference in two narayan dashas, staring from Scorpio and Virgo ( JHS format). So the coming dasha is gemini or capricorn? Swati Namah Shivaya On 1/14/07, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote: [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Swati, Determine the concerned house in Rasi (4th house for formal education), determine the lord of the concerend house in the Rasi chart, and then take the sign occupied by the Graha in the concerend divisional chart and calculate Narayana Dasa from the sign it occupies (or the 7th from it depending on strength). There are options for this in Jagannatha Hora. Just make the Dasa start from Scorpio in your case as this has 4th Lord from Rasi Jupiter. Otherwise the default is giving you Narayana dasa starting from your 12th lord in Rasi, Sun. This is all from Sanjay's Narayana Dasa book. Respectfully, Michal [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] healing spaces <healingspaces > Saturday, January 13, 2007 7:44:17 AM Re: Siddhamsa [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Hare Rama Krsna Dear Michal, gurus and members, Sorry it was my mistake . yes Saturn confers rajyogas, but not associations with royalty.keeping scorpio as lagna with saturn and rahu as 4th house lords. i was looking for one lord to have royal connections. How do we start the narayana Dasha from 4th house .Any options in JHS? Okie i digged some more points for sagitarius: sun as 9th lord. Sun is my 10th house lord from moon in rashi, sun is placed in ketu star. Ketu is karak of buildings. But at other point scorpio: moon as 9th lord aspected by sun, saturn in 9th house. saturn is in leo sign in rashi and venus star, 10th to my moon . Okie one thing , does rahu ketu create problems in the house of apara vidya or aspecting it , vs the sitting or aspecting the sustainence/ marak to these houses. And saturn can create more delay sitting in houses of aparavidya or again aspecting the sustainense marak . i hope i am clear with my query ? Swati Namah Shivaya On 1/12/07, Michal Dziwulski < nearmichal > wrote: [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Swati, Saturn in Cancer in 1st or 10th houses doesn't give Rajyoga? What about the charts of Indira Ghandi and George Bush? Also, have you thought about starting Narayana Dasa of D24 chart from the 4th house of formal education. This will be different to the one you are using which starts from the 12th house. Respectfully, Michal [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] healing spaces <healingspaces > Friday, January 12, 2007 6:58:40 PM Re: Siddhamsa [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Dear Michalji, Rafalji, and other learned memebers thanks Rafalji for delving with my questions... And michalji for getting into minute details to see the d-24. here are the answers to what u asked. Please correct me where i went wrong and also i have written some questions . Here are some more doubts..and a brief analysis of my D-24 chart 15th april 1979 , place jaipur city ( 75 E 49 , 26 N 55) Option 1. Sagitarius as lagna in D-24 (Recorded time 18:05) Moon in 1st house, with lot of attention to education. Also my mothers attention in my education as she herself is in education field. 1st lord and 4th lord Jupiter in 12th with 7th and 10th lord. A desire, motivation objective, to go till Ph D level in a abroad place altough with . fourth lord in 12th necessarliy may not mean formal school education studies abraod, but the objective as being the karyesh lord. Also 4th lord , dont know if i can see mother from this, but Jupiter as lord shows her excelence as professor. jupiter mercury have planetary aspects by venus and mars, rings a bell of influence of Ak and design, art architecture, adding to my intellectual base. i was running taurus dasha when i started my design course. Also rashi aspect of rahu ketu, saturn to the 1st and 4th lord, showing delays and struggles throughout. Now coming to formal education. 4th lord is dual sign so can indicate a change altough its placed in fixed rashi , so doesnt bring a shift in place. the first school was convent, foreign influence and all girls school joined in virgo narayan dasha. the second school was a school with little royal association s and a co-ed. the change happened when i was in capricorn -pisces dasha .Pisces is my 4th house here so a time to alter. this happened in 1993 Taurus Dasha, starts in 1995. have placement of venus and mars, took science as subjects, but was very sure that i want to do architecture and design , so unlike other students in my class, was not very interested in IIT. taurus -scorpio dasha i joined my 5yrs course in interior architecture in ahmedabad. Change of place to south west. Here come the question ? Can the 9th lord sun in 10th house with rashi aspect of moon, be sufficeint to give me education in design architecture, interiors, furniture. Well to an extant sun and moon are the two sides of coin, of the abstract and the concrete, and i always work with these layers, when i design . The running taurus dasha with venus and mars there could be a strong infulence to add the visual beauty to it. Rahu ketu aspect the 9th house with rashi dhriti so somm foriegn influences strongly, knowing that we .saturn aspects the 10th house which is the sustainer and the marak house to my bachelors degree. saturn is also transiting cancer since two yrs, and has given me delay. 9th lord in 10th Sun could also mean i got involved in doing jobs, or there were felt obstructions from family as sun and moon are strongly influencing the 10th house. So there are invariably enough indications of problems at the bachelors level. How does one see this when will this end? What is the role of saturn® and sun here in delay and sustainence? in my rashi chart the saturn is in leo, while here it is in cancer? Now if i finish and get a degree are there chances of post grad? Will education end at bachelors due to rahu ketu aspect to 9th? 2 house has rahu, ketu, so strong influence of foreign .2nd lord capricorn is aspected by saturn graha dhristi. in terms of rashi dhristi there are aspects of jupiter, merc, mars, venus. So the house is strong. i wil be going into gemini dasha soon, which is aspected by sun and moon placed in kendra.. Gemini is also badhaksthana. Option 2. Scorpio as lagna in D24 (18:00) Jupiter and mercury in 1st house , good intelligence with digbal. Mars as lagna lord with venus in 7th house, motivation again coloured by art design , architecture, with planetary aspects of jupiter , mercury . 4th house rashi is aquarius, co-lorded by rahu in 2nd in capricorn and saturn in 9th in cancer rashi . Could show two schools. The first school , with different religion as i was in convent school, and second with traditional orthodox name setup. Saturn in cancer in 1st and 10th , as told by my Guru, doesnt confer rajyoga ,saturn is nothing like royal, infact could mean questionable birth. Well Sawai Man Singh to jaipur is royal, i would like to believe and this school was founded by Gayatri Devi. Moreover 4th lord in 9th house, can show relation between my initial study continues at the bachelors level. 9th lord in 2nd can show continuation of bachelors into masters. 2nd lord in 1st house with aspect of 7th lord venus , can even show masters if dasha allows. 9th house being badhaksthana and deposited with saturn , can be the reason of delay. Also considerably a bachelors course is three yrs, while our campus has it for 5 and half yrs. Now 10th lord is sun, and the tenth is house is marak and sustainer, there is again a rahu ketu rashi aspect to the sustaining house, with none other. How is this different from rahu ketu aspect to 9th house of bachelors education as seen in scorpio lagna vs the 10th house aspect? Also saturn is 8th to moon , and saturn was kantaka sani for the varga chart as it was transiting cancer since last two yrs, So could have been the cause of delay . the delay and probelms to 9th house education should be seen from 9th house itself or specifically the tenth ? In sagitarius lagna saturn aspects the 10th house where 9th lord sun is sitting. In scorpio lagna saturn is sitting in cancer 9th house itself badhaksthana . What are the possibilites of post-grad education in this scorpio lagna , when the sustainence house has rahu ketu sitting there. also does this indicate post grad abraod? 9th lord moon is sitting in 2nd house , and 2nd lord jupiter is sitting in lagna . Rahu ketu in the sustanence house. with the coming gemini dasha being 8th house , would it give post grad? Please look at these two different options. I have yet not got my bachelors degree in hand. Until i do that masters is impossible. Which chart looks right and what are the chances in each case to continue in post-grad. swati namah shivaya On 1/10/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: hraum namah adityaya Dear Swati, Namaskar! Please find my comments below. Hopefully red is agni..forget me wednesday! Regards Rafal Gendarz - healing spaces ; sohamsa@ .com ; nearmichal ; paramaguru@gro ups.com Wednesday, January 10, 2007 7:06 AM Re: Siddhamsa [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Hare Rama Krsna : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah Dear Michal, Gurus and members Sanjayji's lectures on Siddhamsa are wonderful and i wil like to thank him for he wonderful resources provided by him for learning. i remember my first discussion with my guru was also in d-24. I am learning so much through this discussion Michal ji . Even trying to apply it on the charts of my known ones and friends from campus. Altough here are some basic Some doubts on D-24, Please help me through them. 1. What will the significant things that come in play when 1st house placements are rahu ketu. [rafal] As Nodes afflicts Akasha Tattwa it usually gives bad education or lack of inspiration to learn. It should be confirmed with Jupiter position. Jupiter in D9 shows how one learns through God help, D24 how one learns in area or for para-/apara siddhi. Nodes shows also ending point of education and this should be studied with 4L - goal which one would like to reach in educational spheres of life. Lagna is Brahma-sthana where one is awaken to create new possibilites therefore kendra to Lagna in Padakrama Dasa (southern name) shows new beginings to You while Kendra to Surya shows new begining to outside resources..Lagna in every Varga shows fame and attitude related to that area therefore Sani in D20-Ascendent give sadness in spiritual matters. Rahu will give too much thinking while Ketu overconfidence. 2. How would one proceed when rahu ketu are in 4th house. does it mean problems or end at formal education. how would it differ from rahu ketu rashi dhristi aspect to the 4th house. How would it differ from graha drishti aspect. And in what conditions does it allow forward movement in education [rafal] Forth bhava is Ganesha sthana where education begins. Therefore kids in Gurukula's pray to Ganapati. It has to do with Prhtvi Tattwa and Muladhara chakra. Forth bhava is karyabhava here and malefics there are very bad. Person can have good attitude (Lagna0 but events / situation can make Him sad and discouraged (argala). If malefics are in forth, lordship of that sthana will show cause (Surya (karaka of dispositor) - creator) and independently forth lord shows objective while Lagnesh shows what motivate You to start.. Do You catch the difference? 3. 5th house or 10th house are marak houses to formal education and bachelors education. What will rahu ketu placements do in marak houses placements. [rafal] Fifth is root of paravidya science and it fruits(11) are seen by hearing properly guru upadesa and initating good and peaceful (not himsa - benefic in third and without obstacles - aspects 9H) methods to get things done. Fifth in D24 also shows hobbies and for example I have nodes there which shows dabbling with Jyotish. Mangal and Ketu (papargal on enemy of karaka of 4h) in 5H shows mind filled with too much extravertism which put the person out of home and study and get into gangs and that kind of things. Tenth house shows how You teach (see Devata) planets there shows what sustains/breaks college-step so give proper Upadesa to Your clients based on that. 4 What kind of studies can be actually shown by rahu, ketu: Can they play any role? in todays age when we do most of our learning through internet, computers? Also rahu ketu are known as planets for radical or futuristic inventions. Consider some body studying interactive embedded technology, nanotechnology. What planets wil play role? [rafal] Lot depends on signs. Prthvi are more connected to money while watery to intelectual jobs (they can also give passions in rasi). Rahu can indicate politics or philosophy also. In my chart I have 9H scorpio with two lords - one is Mangal with Sani (engineering with construtction that was my first study which I broke) and Ketu is with Rahu in Cancer in fifth bhava - my 2nd college is philosophy. Rahu shows independent (3H) eagerness and stance to get things without help of Guru so beware of students which has Ra/Sa in 1/5 from Lagna in D1 without AK in kona(s). 6. do we at any time consider graha aspects in these charts. [rafal] Yes, every tool should be used if its a) relevant and b) properly applied. 7. how would narayana dasha dictate and can change ur course of study. Imagine a person doing bachelors degree, and the person is running narayan dasha of the 7th house which denotes the ending to education in certain way . [rafal] Start D24 Narayana dasa from 4L(D1) for apara vidya siddhi's 8. Shall post another mail for the questions u asked Michal on my D-24 Scorpio and Sagitarrius. Thanks in advance. Swati Om gurave namah On 1/10/07, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote: [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Swati, I think I have the lectures you are talking about. Sorry, there seems to have been some confusion. Your 4th house is Aquarius - so... has two lords. These two represent your two schools in Jaipur. You mentioned one had some royal affiliation - so I pointed out Saturn in Cancer, as it is a combination for royalty. Two major points that you still have not been able to answer regarding Sagitarius Lagna are: 1. Why did you not go overseas for your primary level education as Jupiter is 4th Lord in the 12th. 2. Why do Rahu and Ketu in the 2nd house not end the education. 9th lord in 10th can give problems, but what kind of problems? Usually related to work, ending the education and joining the workforce career - 10th house. Or if the 7th house is involved, getting married, or if the 12th house is involved going travelling etc. Sun is photography. But architecture is more Mars don't you think? Design is definately Venus. Moon is more caring, nuturing, healing. What about Moon in badhaksthana from Gemini dasa causing travel? Respectfully, Michal [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] ----- Original Message ---- designhologram <healingspaces > Wednesday, January 10, 2007 12:12:03 PM Siddhamsa [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Hare Rama Krsna , dear Michal, Gurus and members Found some more siddhamsa lectures by Sanjay Rathiji, don't know from where i picked them, but are not from atri it seems. they are saved from august on my computer. If u need them i can pass those too. The discussion on his chart is very interesting . And there are some more points than the Atri Audio:) I have put some doubts on ur comments and recent addition to my listening the new audios. Yes scorpio seems to be more positive also at the level of phd. and directly takes my attention, but delay and problems in 9th house has made me more skeptical. my notes in blue The same school can have many different meanings for all people. Someone that was badly bullied there will have different combinations to signify their schooling experience. First see the planets in the 9th house, then the Lord, and then the aspects. In this order we can see the higher education. Don�t you think its interesting that your school, represented by the 4th lord Saturn, transformed into a University, as it is placed in the 9th house? No its not my school that turned into college or university. my two schools were in jaipur, one being convent girls school , and other being a co-ed royal school. infact college is in different city all together. i moved from jaipur to ahmedabad , towards slight south west. the college that i was studyingis very focused to designwith no other faculties turned into deemed university in later years. Also its important to know that the bachelors i was going through is five yrs, where first 6 semesters are in college, the next semester of six months is job, the next thee semesters are in college. Then we have a thesis (which is almost like a phd thesis at times, and people)it is this thesis which i delayed in. sometimes i feel i am doing phd and gemini Also probably my convocation to this degree wil happen in gemini dasha. Sagitarius Some new views i heard in these new audios was , that the 4th lord placemnt shows the seed and final desire to education and 7th lord shows the end to formal education till phd level. In this case 4th lord with 7th lord in 12th house can be positive sign for abroad possibilities. Also he mentions that if 9th lord in 10th can create problem in finishing the bachelors. cant the moon aspect from lagna to sun indicate architecture, design, photography. i am just considering if we my time was any way right as 18:05, than what do i do remedy it. And give me post-grad. 4 yrs delay , and my in between working can attribute to its break. Hope this is not the case, but are there any positive ends to it? Also i know in soem way family has also been reason for certain delay. Scorpio Delay is Saturn. Always mean nodes. So my spiritual education , since it is lord of 3rd house is distracting my delay:) Look at it this way. Does the lord of any house going to another house have any significance? It must. What about the Arudhapada of the 2nd falling in the 12th house? Moon can indicate the public and social things, so it can be something like the design of a town, or buildings that have to do with the public like halls, meeting places etc. Hope i do this, and work around same direction:) i wil be so glad. any remedies that i can pursue for the coming dasha, and timing of when i wil go. Respectfully, Swati [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Swati, I never said that Saturn would give rajayoga to you. All I said was that if we were to take Saturn in Cancer as Lagna for one of your schools, then the school would have the charachteristics of some rajyoga ie. be prestigious, royal etc. If Sagitarius was the Lagna then how would you explain design? Lord of the ninth is Sun in Virgo and the 9th is aspected by the nodes. Let us first try to be straight - 9th house is for bachelor level education. Sagitarius Why would the 1st lord going to the 12th give overseas education for masters and not for primary education? Jupiter is also the 4th lord - so don't you think that your first schooling experience (4th house) would have been abroad? Scorpio Instead, look at it this way, 2nd lord of Masters education (Jupiter) is in the 12th from there - so your post-graduate studies will be overseas. Moon is in badhaksthana from Gemini and in the 7th house which also deals with travel - so you have two conspiring to take you abroad in this dasa. So is Sanjay's recent Siddhamsa lecture in English? Looking forward to more of your thoughts. Please have a good look at Scorpio Lagna for the reasons I have given and tell me what you think. Respectfully, Michal [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] ----- Original Message ---- healing spaces <healingspaces > sohamsa@ .com Saturday, January 6, 2007 9:06:12 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Hare Rama krsna Dear Michal ... Thanks for ur continous posts and interest.. I am learning a lot:) With scorpio 18:00 ..my badhakesh becomes 9th lord moon , while lord of 3rd and 4th saturn placed in 9th gets placed in 9th house badhakstha, so dont know if its rajyoga. For two yrs , saturn has been transitting cancer, and i faced most of my delays in last two yrs, altough i think now with saturn retro transit, will result in submission and finishing of my viva. how will the end be seen for 9th house? it should end is taursu-Aquarius( which antar) dasha itself i am not so good in narayana dasha yet... cant make out what gemini dasha wil bring and also aspect of moon ..moos is also badhakesh.. Also if i pursue post-masters its going to be abraod so i need combination for both:) also what would be the post masters in.. there are no aspects to 2nd house now, so moon is going to decide the specialization course in design? help me to see gemini narayan dasha also. i see more chances of abroad in sagitarius lagna 18:05 . as the 1st lord is in 12th and badhaksthana gemini may start operating now and badhakesh is also in is also in 12th house. however moon has to come into play as it aspects gemini... Also with rahu ketu in 2nd and many aspects it can show many influences on masters degree:) i think i am confused now for my D-24 enough:) For mother ..yes possible we need to go backward for her time too...altough at bachelors level she did sanskrit, and some other subjects also..Specializatio n comes when she does masters..and moon has aspect to 2nd house. venus in 6th debilated ..i dont know... also what about her further pursuits after Ph D, writing books papers...mars in 3rd house..karaka bhava nashao..her younger bro is not there...7th house is afflicted though... Guru Sanjayjis lectures are in English mostly...so u can listen to them... Also sanjayji told the houses 5th , 10th , 3rd, 8th and 1st are for spiritual pursuits and informal learning and finally self-realization. wishes swati Namah Shivaya On 1/5/07, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote: [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Swati, Yes, Saturn is the significator for delay. I have asked you before - what do you think about Gemini dasa approaching? 9th Lord Moon is aspecting this sign from the 2nd house of post-graduate studies. If your Mother has studied psychology then perhaps Moon should be in the 9th house. That would put Shani in the 7th house of Phd, and as Shani is karaka for the 10th house it would make sense that her studies had the focus of 'vocation' and the psychology of that as Moon aspects. Shakti yoga is good if malefics are there, Mars in her case, as the this shows the power to overcome anger, hatred etc. Respectfully, Michal [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] ----- Original Message ---- healing spaces <healingspaces > sohamsa@ .com Friday, January 5, 2007 8:47:14 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Hare Rama krsna Dear Michal, Thanks...Does saturn show delay with rajyoga as well? with this D-24 when do u see a possibility of post-grad? My mother is a professor in psychology and has done phd in vocational psychology. No, i don't think she had any problems in bachelors. She started working in very early age by 22 after finishing her masters. She did PhD after her marriage i believe.She got married in May 1974. what would u say about her father from 9th house? he had parkinsons for many yrs and suffered a lot. She also has strong shakti yoga in 7th house involving Ak . So some dischords too. Swati Namah shivaya On 1/5/07, Michal Dziwulski < nearmichal > wrote: [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Swati, Shani in Karka gives rajyoga in the 1st or 10th houses. So, if we take your 9th house in Siddhamsa and call that the Lagna for one of your schools then this combination is present. Can you give details about what your Mother studied? Jupiter, Rahu and Ketu in Scorpio could give some kind of scientific field like radiology or chemistry. Mercury and Rahu in the Navamsa Lagna indicates homeopathy. The lord of the 9th is exalted but retrograde - did she have to work very hard to complete her bachelor level studies? In the Rasi chart Lagna Lord is exalted in the 9th with the 5th lord - I can really believe she has a lot of students! Respectfully, > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Swati, > > There are many schools that have churches, I went to one myself for some time. Not every student at the school had Meena in the 4th house of D24 I'm sure. There must be other factors. > > You were born in India but this school that you attended was Catholic - is this right? If this is the case then the nodes were clearly dominating there giving you foreign influence in your education, Rahu as one lord of the 4th house. > > Then you say the 2nd school had royal association. Royalty does not just come from Aries, there are many other factors that can cause this such as Atmakaraka, association with Surya etc. What > about Shani in Karka? - this gives a very high rajayoga when placed in the 1st or 10th house. So maybe somehow it is giving some results here too. I'm not sure about this, but I'm just trying to look at it from as many angles as possible. > > If Pisces was your 4th house then the lord going to the 12th house could give primary education abroad. If we take Scorpio Lagna then 12th lord Venus and Lagnesha Mars are posted in the 7th house of travel, showing that there is the possibility of travel for the advanced education, since it aspects the 9th house. > > Also, dasa is there to time the event, the event has to be first seen in the chart. Just becasue dasa had changed from pisces to aries doesn't necessarily indicate a change. Did you got to a school on a farm just becasue the dasa changed to Taurus? And then go to a playground because dasa changed to Gemini? Do you see my point. > > I have not done any work on the D60 chart to be > honest. There is just so much to learn isn't there. > For your Mother's chart - remember that the nodes break the education unless there is the strong association of Jupiter. If there is, then education will continue. If you want you can share your mother's chart and we can look more. > > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > healing spaces healingspaces@ ... > > > > > > nearmichal > Wednesday, January 3, 2007 2:43:35 AM > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > Dear Michalji, > > > Hoping to see your valued comments on my last mail about D-24 and D-60 . > > Wishing u a great year ahead > > Swati > > Namah Shivaya > > On 12/31/06, healing spaces < > > > > > > healingspaces@ gmail.com> wrote: > Hare Rama krsna : : Om Vyom Vyasadevaya namah > > > > > > > > > Dear Michal, My Guru and learned members... > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your valued inputs..it helps me learn Please correct me whenever needed. > Yes Scorpio lagna with time 18:00 makes a lot more sense with many more reasons. But changing a lot in D-60 and getting my venus in MKS there ..and getting jupiter out of MKS.There is already a spouse curse and venus Ak is MKS in rashi, 12th in D-9 and now again MKS in D-60. So lot to handle. > > > But some few pointers with sagitarius. > > The first lord in 12th with mercury shows possibilities of study abraod or loosing out on studies.Will > pisces in 4th house being a dual sign can also give two schools. My first school convent Sophia .Pisces indicates a place more peaceful ,ocean like with church ...But ya this school at one end had a church inside the campus but had a graveyard at back which we could see.. > > The second school was a newly founded school with royal associations and name. so Aries. > > > > > > > > > Explaining the change in capricorn-pisces to capricorn -aries > > > > > > > > > > For my bachelors degree i moved towards SW of Jaipur city.Okie now coming to 9th lord leo in case of sagi, which has no aspects other than graha dhristi of rahu ketu ..yes may not show much of the background of my studies and campus of architecture and design. Sun as lord would show some govt association. this chart also is positive for masters and abroad education yet no more than masters with rahu and ketu in 2nd house. But with rahu ketu , also problem in completion of masters. > > > With scorpio: > > > > > > > > > It has many positives apart from getting venus out of MKS in 7th house while making Mars MKS. It gets mercury and jupiter in lagna also making me intelligent and interested in astrology. With cancer as lord of 9th house, it now gets lot many aspects of mars venus, jupiter mercury with rashi dhristi and rahu ketu with graha dhristi. > > By the way in our education we never had exams or written papers at all. All we had was juries and submissions, lot of model making, drafting , sketching and hard work keeping up late in nights..So what i succeded mostly was keeping getting my ideas to jury and teachers , while collecting lot of jealousy among the batchmates. > Does scorpio give masters and abraod studies? > > > > > > > > > > Now a lot changes with D-60 ..the options are again : (Sagi in D-24 with taurus in D-60 sarpa amsa rising , Venus in 4th ) or (scorpio in D-24 with pisces in D-60, indu amsa rising, venus in 6th ). > > Some pointers...I have had some accidents with head injury and eye afflictions and teeth issues. little problems and differences in home enviornment. > > > Rest later after ur valued comments. i have been trying these techniques with some other charts ....and getting either very good results or not so good . Especially my mothers chart has rahu ketu jupiter in 9th in D-24 but she has done PHD and is a professor. Would i rectify her chart too? > > Swati > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Shreem mahalakshmai namah : : Namah Shivaya > > > > > > > > > Wish u all a great yr ahead and ur family...and may light shine in all of us.. Bless me with more aparvidya:) > > > > > > > > > > On 12/31/06, Michal Dziwulski nearmichal > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Swati, > > > If we make Scorpio the Lagna for your D24 chart then Aquarius will be the 4th house. There are two lords, so you attended two schools. Rahu will indicate the school with more of a foreign influence - like a different religion, or different social values etc. > > > If Sagitarius is the Lagna then the Sun would be the 9th lord, and, I could be wrong, but I don't see how the Sun in Virgo would indicate Architecture and Design. Then also the Nodes would be aspecting the 9th house by Rasi drsti and putting an end to any further education. And how would we explain the top marks you get? > > > We always use mean nodes for natal horoscopes. > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo > Narayanaya ] > > ----- Original Message ---- > healing spaces <healingspaces@ > gmail.com> > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > ; nearmichal > Sunday, December 31, 2006 8:41:47 AM > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > Hare Rama Krsna, > Dear Michal , > > Sorry that was a mistype where i missed the word. i have not finished higher education. > i did my schooling from two schools in same town. Shifted from convent school to more a royal school in 1993. this was i think during narayana dasha shift of cap-pisces to cap-taurus. After my 12th standard, i joined this design and architecture 5 yr course away from my home town. > > > So do u see scorpio as my lagna, that would bring my time to 18:00. i have tried this rectification before. Wil saturn in 9th suffice for the delay that i have faced. > > > Sorry i am confused do we use true nodes option or mean nodes and explanation for same.i think i tinkered the default settings. > > Thanks > Swati > > > > > > > > > > Om gurave namah > > > > > On 12/31/06, Michal Dziwulski > nearmichal > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Swati, > > > Having a further look I realised I had missed an important factor. In the D24 Narayana dasa of Gemini the 9th lord is strongly aspecting the dasa rasi. This is certainly a positive indication for the completion of your degree. Sorry for the confusion. > > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > Michal Dziwulski nearmichal > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > Sunday, December 31, 2006 7:57:48 AM > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: > [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Swati, > > When you say you finished your higher education, what did you study before? Currently you are doing architecture and design, but did you study anything before this? > > > If we were to move the D24 Lagna to Scorpio then this is how I would see it - Jupiter and Mercury with Dig Bala in the first house giving an excellent student - remember Lagna in any divisional chart is you. 9th house has retrograde Shani showing delays in the completion of these studies. 9th Lord going to 2nd house showing that these studies will have to lead to post graduate pursuits. Architecture requires a lot of understanding of engineering and is very logical, whereas design is more artistic - and here we > would have the combination of Mars (Lagnesha) and Venus aspecting the 9th house. That duo in the Lagna also aspects the 9th house which would explain all those high marks. > > If we take Narayana Dasa of D24 chart you will see that Taurus dasa has been running from 1995 to the present and is nearly over. Taurus houses the combination of Mars and Venus that aspects your 9th house. What do you think about Gemini dasa coming up next? It is the 8th house, and its lord is conjoined the 5th lord in Lagna. The 5th house is concerned with spirituality, and the 4th from there (8th house) is the learning of the same. So maybe you might be taking a break from your studies to pursue something more spiritual. No doubt you will be thinking a lot about post-grad, since Jupiter is lord of the 2nd, but you can't go on to that until you complete 9th house first.. > > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > healing spaces <healingspaces@ gmail.com> > sohamsa@ .com > Saturday, December 30, 2006 2:09:19 PM > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama krsna > Dear Michal, > > > Its always great to gather inputs from all on a great forum like this ... And i must congratulate YOU that u caught a great nerve that is troubling me in my life. I have finished my higher education. Further i joined a > five yr BACHELORS course in architecture and design. My first 9 semesters had me being topping in all subjects, which created lots of jealousy around me... Moreover i was having a lot of family troubles at the background,which still continue. My tenth semster which includes writing a thesis , has gone for a long stretch after this and yes i have still not completed it. it still has to go through last stages of submission and viva, as i can never leave a > hope.I have not failed yet but it has delayed for more than 4 yrs. The delay has occured due to my perfectionist attitude, my lost ability to overcome situations, lost relationships and the overarching family issues. In mean time yes i have started freelancing and sustaining myself financially, yet i would not say i am settled in career. > > Sharing all this information, for study purposes. U could comment of birth rectification. I have gone over trying to rectify but never succeded. > > > Would love to know when will i finish and get my degree in hand? Are there any remedies particularly for > same.Still a HOPE to pursue post-grad. Any HOPE? or possibility of working abroad? > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > Swati > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/30/06, Michal Dziwulski < > > > > > > > > > nearmichal > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Swati, > > Hope you don't mind my input. In your D24 chart Rahu and Ketu occupy the 2nd house which is seen for post graduate study ie. Masters, Honours. This can be overcome if a strong Jupiter associates, as he will want you to continue learning. Has your chart been rectified? Also 9th lord Sun going to the 10th house would indicate an end to bachelor level education and entering into work. Rahu and Ketu are the only other planets aspecting the 9th house. Did you complete your higher education? If you did then maybe the Lagna has to be shifted. Please share your experience for the purpose of learning. > > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > ----- Original Message ---- > > healing spaces healingspaces@ ... > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > Friday, December 29, 2006 1:01:08 PM > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krsna > > Pranam Sweeji, > > > No > i am not married yet ...Altough i have had a past relationship. And am > not planning to get married yet .. Want to go abraod and pursue post-grad and > research in design and architecture. Don't know if this is possible. > > > u > mentioned badhakesh period till 2012 . i think later to that even i > will be running badhaksthan pisces chara dasha till 2020. When do u > forsee marriage ? > > 'Demented quite, I must have been if I did not suggest Pearl as an upaya. Tis not for you to adorn.' > Did u mean this is MUST for me.. ?What about emerald ? > > > Swati > > > Om gurave namah > > > > > > > On 12/29/06, > Swee Chan sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Swati, > > Namaste > > > > Demented quite, I must have been if I did not suggest Pearl as an upaya. Tis not for you to adorn. Badhakesh period extends to 2012 > > Challenges in area of spousal affairs. Are you married yet? If so, wouldn't you wish upon a star that he'd be a cutting edge more spiritual? > > > > Love, > > > > Swee > > > > > > On 12/28/06 10:11 PM, "healing spaces" <healingspaces@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > Pranam Sweeji, and members > > > > Here are the birth details > > Date 15th april 1979 > > time 18: 05 > > place jaipur city , rajasthan 75 E 49 26 N 55 > > Definitely shall figure out on my own about which audio it was ..:)Shall look forward for the worthy discussions. on pointers like kevala mahyogada, vaiseshikamsa and other discourses. > > gemstones and physical holdings always carry a fancy ...and more positive feeling of holding. > > > > Wishes > > Swati > > Namah Shivya : Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > On 12/28/06, Swee Chan sweechan@mac . com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Swati, > > Namaste > > > > Can you give your deets again? Sorry, can't seem to find the time (without disturbance) to listen to the mp3's including the ones I've bought :| > > > > Love, > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > On 12/28/06 12:19 PM, "healing spaces" <healingspaces@ gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://gmail. com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama krsna > > Dear Sweeji, > > Are u talking about Narshimaji books that contains information on yogada and vaiseshika. I still have to pick up that book. Do u know which audio contains the details. > > In my chart mars and mercury form kevala mahayogada, would they turn beneficiary for me ..or still remain dhrita badhak and problem creators. > > In vaiseshikamsa i have sun with high strength and exalted in many divisional charts ...but is functional malefic for my chart and also in gandhta. > > u had prescribed me pearl seeing the rising ascendant hasta nakshatra and also acc to dwisaptati dasha. while for emerald u see sometimes the best remedies is to initiate the debilated planet... > > Now Anuj ji with suggests citrine with his conclusions. Vistiji recommends no stones.. > > It wil be good if i compile it all together for study purpose..... and we could reach some lasting conclusions. .Wishing my Guru is around..and would enrich this discussion.. > > Lastly i am seeign this as more a learning process.. as i really dont see myself making any investments in near future, until it costs me less.Just for curosity sake.. Bharat ji what do the yantras cost ? > > > > Swati > > > > > > > > On 12/28/06, swami swami_rcs > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > II Om Gurave Namah II > > Hari om , Friend, > > Dear Sarvashree swee and Anuj, > > Thanks to both of you.In light of hint from Swee and analysis > > of Swati chart, based on concept by Anuj ,if combined: I understand > > we can check prescription of Gems in critical cases. In fact Swati > > chart and her wearing of Gems case is interesting for , it breeds ground > > for correct application of this small segment of Vedic knowledge. > > By the way concept of Yogi and Avayogi may be a part of Achyut > > parampara, since during Panchang lecture Pt Sanjay has asked his > > students to work out Yoga point and other details , that he promised to > > discuss next time. > > Concept of Yoga avyoga is well adopted in west and Late sh.H.R Shanker > > has also written about it in Astrological Magazine .Jyotish tool , > > Digital jyotish,Astroloka etc are good software and DJ is excellent to give > > a fair trial to Teachings of Sh.H.R.S.Iyer' s work. > > I feel in spite of differences we should continue to share knowledge. > > Lastly i thank both of you and Visti and of course Swati who has permitted > > discussion on her chart on open forum. > > > > > > > > Sarve Bhavantu Sukhinah > > Sarve Santu Niramaya > > Sarve Bhadrani Pasyantu > > Ma Kashchid Dukh Bhaag Bhaveit > > HARI OM TATSAT > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- > > R.C.Srivastava > > For Consultation -Service > > E-mail : swami_rcs > > > > 199,MMIG "Guru Kripa" > > Shaheed Nagar. 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