Guest guest Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 ~Not giving sorrow to others, not lying, not speaking ill of anyone, these are "niched rup saadhan".~ Some time ago, I was put on a mailing list and now get daily postings related to the Bhagavad Gita. I do not know the source but have found great wisdom in the messages. This posting in my box today seems to relate to both continued discussion in the group about truth and something that has been weighing on my heart. There is a sadhak with a good and loving heart but with some shortcomings, as we all have. I heard others speaking critically and it hurt my heart. In the Bahai tradition there is guidance to never speak of anyone unless they are present. This helps remind us to avoid hurtful gossip (for ourselves and others)and I think it is related to truth. The following post confirms for me why we are told to see only the good in each other. Please read on. Jai Maa Shree Hari: Maagh Krishna Ashthami, Vikram Samvat 2063, Thursday 11th January, 2007, Thursday Ram Ram Gist: Even though it appears to be greater to do something good, but in reality not doing bad or not doing evil to others, including your own self, is a greater spiritual practice. Therefore do not think, see, or do bad to anyone. By leaving bad qualities, good qualities will naturally prevail. By giving up evil, we will be serving this entire Universe and we will begin to see God in everyone . How to Become Flawless (Nirmal Kaise Bane) Brother and Sisters ! Let us see ! A practice of doing good to others is called "Viddhi rup saadhan" and a practice of giving up our flaws, leaving our bad qualities is "niched rup saadhan". Practices such as reciting name of God (nama jap), chanting His name (kirtan), singing his glories (bhajan), giving charity (daan), these are "viddhi rup saadhan." Whereas on other hand not giving sorrow to others, not lying, not speaking ill of anyone, these are "niched rup saadhan". Nowadays, we put more emphasis on doing something good, taking some good action. We do not pay attention to giving up our flaws, such as not lying, not speaking ill of others, not giving sorrow to others etc. Giving up your bad qualities is a greater spiritual practice. By not giving sorrow to anyone is better and provides greater benefit to a larger whole. It benefits the world at large. Even though it appears to be greater to do something good, but in reality not doing bad is a greater and more beneficial. Therefore let us commit to the following points - 1. Do not consider anyone bad (maananaa) 2. Do not see anything bad in anyone (dekhnaa) 3. Do not do anything bad to anyone (karnaa) By putting these three into practice, we will be serving this entire Universe. It is for the benefit of humanity at large. On the other hand, by considering anyone bad, we will hurt everyone, including ourself and the other person. But by not considering someone bad, no one will be hurt, and nothing bad will happen to you from within. Therefore, do not consider anyone bad. Do not steal from others. When we hurt others, pay disrespect to them, they will suffer losses. It will cause difficulty to them, and it is taking away their rights. By leaving bad qualities, good qualities will naturally prevail. Therefore, do not think badly of anyone, do not say bad things about anyone, do not listen to bad things being said about anyone. This includes yourself as well. Do not see bad qualities even in your ownself. By not seeing anything bad in anyone, you will begin to see God in everyone (sab jagaha Ishvar roop hai). But by seeing evil in other, it will hinder your experience of seeing God in All (Vasudeva Sarvam). So commit, from today onwards - "I will not see, say of, or do bad to any one." Uma sant ki yeh badhaayi, mand kare ki yeh bhalaayi - "I will not wrong, even those that have wronged me." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 Dear Sadhumaa, The mantra we are repeating now begins: Sarvaa (all), baadhaa ( pain, hurt, opposition), prashamanam (pacification, peace). trailokyasya (in the three worlds,-whether they be heaven, earth and hell, or gross, subtle, and causal). The Mantra, then, is a request to bring peace to all that is bad (including all the "my bads": mistakes, poor judgements, false turnings, and unwise actions) which threaten the peace in the three worlds. The One being requested is Akhila-Ishwarii. Ishwara is God, Ishwarii, the Goddess. And the aspect of the Devii being invoked here is akhila: "Complete, whole", ie. the Goddess as all-pervading, without even the slightest break, division, or gap. She is everything, everywhere, as well as all the space in between. There can be no division or separation in that Goddess, that Reality, that Truth. She is the Goddess of no-separation, no-other. Therefore, it is that dynamic Goddess alone Who can heal and remove the perceived (but in Reality non-exstent) differences, separations, and polarizations which torment our disturbed world. The Upanisad says, "Where one sees an other, where one hears an other, there is fear". >From that fear arises the need to "protect our self interests", and from that need arises the further need to justify the "military option". ....And this plays out on all levels, and in all relationships where Akhileshwarii is not consciously invoked, recognized, and Present. Ultimately, all the "bads" of the world arise from the fear of losing touch with our Divine Mother Who is Everything and Everywhere at all Times. Respectfully, Tanmaya , "Sadhu Maa" <sadumaa wrote: > > ~Not giving sorrow to others, not lying, not speaking ill of anyone, > these are "niched rup saadhan".~ > > Some time ago, I was put on a mailing list and now get daily postings > related to the Bhagavad Gita. I do not know the source but have found > great wisdom in the messages. This posting in my box today seems to > relate to both continued discussion in the group about truth and > something that has been weighing on my heart. There is a sadhak with a > good and loving heart but with some shortcomings, as we all have. I > heard others speaking critically and it hurt my heart. In the Bahai > tradition there is guidance to never speak of anyone unless they are > present. This helps remind us to avoid hurtful gossip (for ourselves > and others)and I think it is related to truth. The following post > confirms for me why we are told to see only the good in each other. > Please read on. Jai Maa > > Shree Hari: > > Maagh Krishna Ashthami, Vikram Samvat 2063, Thursday > 11th January, 2007, Thursday > > Ram Ram > > Gist: Even though it appears to be greater to do something good, but > in reality not doing bad or not doing evil to others, including your > own self, is a greater spiritual practice. Therefore do not think, > see, or do bad to anyone. By leaving bad qualities, good qualities > will naturally prevail. By giving up evil, we will be serving this > entire Universe and we will begin to see God in everyone . > > How to Become Flawless (Nirmal Kaise Bane) > > Brother and Sisters ! Let us see ! A practice of doing good to others > is called "Viddhi rup saadhan" and a practice of giving up our flaws, > leaving our bad qualities is "niched rup saadhan". Practices such as > reciting name of God (nama jap), chanting His name (kirtan), singing > his glories (bhajan), giving charity (daan), these are "viddhi rup > saadhan." Whereas on other hand not giving sorrow to others, not > lying, not speaking ill of anyone, these are "niched rup saadhan". > > Nowadays, we put more emphasis on doing something good, taking some > good action. We do not pay attention to giving up our flaws, such as > not lying, not speaking ill of others, not giving sorrow to others > etc. Giving up your bad qualities is a greater spiritual practice. By > not giving sorrow to anyone is better and provides greater benefit to > a larger whole. It benefits the world at large. Even though it appears > to be greater to do something good, but in reality not doing bad is a > greater and more beneficial. Therefore let us commit to the following > points - > > 1. Do not consider anyone bad (maananaa) > 2. Do not see anything bad in anyone (dekhnaa) > 3. Do not do anything bad to anyone (karnaa) > > By putting these three into practice, we will be serving this entire > Universe. It is for the benefit of humanity at large. On the other > hand, by considering anyone bad, we will hurt everyone, including > ourself and the other person. But by not considering someone bad, no > one will be hurt, and nothing bad will happen to you from within. > Therefore, do not consider anyone bad. Do not steal from others. When > we hurt others, pay disrespect to them, they will suffer losses. It > will cause difficulty to them, and it is taking away their rights. > > By leaving bad qualities, good qualities will naturally prevail. > Therefore, do not think badly of anyone, do not say bad things about > anyone, do not listen to bad things being said about anyone. This > includes yourself as well. Do not see bad qualities even in your > ownself. By not seeing anything bad in anyone, you will begin to see > God in everyone (sab jagaha Ishvar roop hai). But by seeing evil in > other, it will hinder your experience of seeing God in All (Vasudeva > Sarvam). > > So commit, from today onwards - "I will not see, say of, or do bad to > any one." Uma sant ki yeh badhaayi, mand kare ki yeh bhalaayi - "I > will not wrong, even those that have wronged me." > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 Great post, Tanmaya! You really know your Sanskrit, don't you! Jai Maa! Chris , "ty_maa" <dsjames wrote: > > > Dear Sadhumaa, > > The mantra we are repeating now begins: Sarvaa (all), baadhaa ( pain, > hurt, opposition), > prashamanam (pacification, peace). trailokyasya (in the three > worlds,-whether they be heaven, earth and hell, or gross, subtle, and > causal). > > The Mantra, then, is a request to bring peace to all that is bad > (including all the "my bads": mistakes, poor judgements, false turnings, > and unwise actions) which threaten the peace in the three worlds. > > The One being requested is Akhila-Ishwarii. Ishwara is God, Ishwarii, > the Goddess. And the aspect of the Devii being invoked here is akhila: > "Complete, whole", ie. the Goddess as all-pervading, without even the > slightest break, division, or gap. She is everything, everywhere, as > well as all the space in between. There can be no division or separation > in that Goddess, that Reality, that Truth. She is the Goddess of > no-separation, no-other. > > Therefore, it is that dynamic Goddess alone Who can heal and remove the > perceived (but in Reality non-exstent) differences, separations, and > polarizations which torment our disturbed world. > > The Upanisad says, "Where one sees an other, where one hears an other, > there is fear". > > From that fear arises the need to "protect our self interests", and from > that need arises the further need to justify the "military option". > ...And this plays out on all levels, and in all relationships where > Akhileshwarii is not consciously invoked, recognized, and Present. > > Ultimately, all the "bads" of the world arise from the fear of losing > touch with our Divine Mother Who is Everything and Everywhere at all > Times. > > Respectfully, > > Tanmaya > > > > , "Sadhu Maa" <sadumaa@> wrote: > > > > ~Not giving sorrow to others, not lying, not speaking ill of anyone, > > these are "niched rup saadhan".~ > > > > Some time ago, I was put on a mailing list and now get daily postings > > related to the Bhagavad Gita. I do not know the source but have found > > great wisdom in the messages. This posting in my box today seems to > > relate to both continued discussion in the group about truth and > > something that has been weighing on my heart. There is a sadhak with a > > good and loving heart but with some shortcomings, as we all have. I > > heard others speaking critically and it hurt my heart. In the Bahai > > tradition there is guidance to never speak of anyone unless they are > > present. This helps remind us to avoid hurtful gossip (for ourselves > > and others)and I think it is related to truth. The following post > > confirms for me why we are told to see only the good in each other. > > Please read on. Jai Maa > > > > Shree Hari: > > > > Maagh Krishna Ashthami, Vikram Samvat 2063, Thursday > > 11th January, 2007, Thursday > > > > Ram Ram > > > > Gist: Even though it appears to be greater to do something good, but > > in reality not doing bad or not doing evil to others, including your > > own self, is a greater spiritual practice. Therefore do not think, > > see, or do bad to anyone. By leaving bad qualities, good qualities > > will naturally prevail. By giving up evil, we will be serving this > > entire Universe and we will begin to see God in everyone . > > > > How to Become Flawless (Nirmal Kaise Bane) > > > > Brother and Sisters ! Let us see ! A practice of doing good to others > > is called "Viddhi rup saadhan" and a practice of giving up our flaws, > > leaving our bad qualities is "niched rup saadhan". Practices such as > > reciting name of God (nama jap), chanting His name (kirtan), singing > > his glories (bhajan), giving charity (daan), these are "viddhi rup > > saadhan." Whereas on other hand not giving sorrow to others, not > > lying, not speaking ill of anyone, these are "niched rup saadhan". > > > > Nowadays, we put more emphasis on doing something good, taking some > > good action. We do not pay attention to giving up our flaws, such as > > not lying, not speaking ill of others, not giving sorrow to others > > etc. Giving up your bad qualities is a greater spiritual practice. By > > not giving sorrow to anyone is better and provides greater benefit to > > a larger whole. It benefits the world at large. Even though it appears > > to be greater to do something good, but in reality not doing bad is a > > greater and more beneficial. Therefore let us commit to the following > > points - > > > > 1. Do not consider anyone bad (maananaa) > > 2. Do not see anything bad in anyone (dekhnaa) > > 3. Do not do anything bad to anyone (karnaa) > > > > By putting these three into practice, we will be serving this entire > > Universe. It is for the benefit of humanity at large. On the other > > hand, by considering anyone bad, we will hurt everyone, including > > ourself and the other person. But by not considering someone bad, no > > one will be hurt, and nothing bad will happen to you from within. > > Therefore, do not consider anyone bad. Do not steal from others. When > > we hurt others, pay disrespect to them, they will suffer losses. It > > will cause difficulty to them, and it is taking away their rights. > > > > By leaving bad qualities, good qualities will naturally prevail. > > Therefore, do not think badly of anyone, do not say bad things about > > anyone, do not listen to bad things being said about anyone. This > > includes yourself as well. Do not see bad qualities even in your > > ownself. By not seeing anything bad in anyone, you will begin to see > > God in everyone (sab jagaha Ishvar roop hai). But by seeing evil in > > other, it will hinder your experience of seeing God in All (Vasudeva > > Sarvam). > > > > So commit, from today onwards - "I will not see, say of, or do bad to > > any one." Uma sant ki yeh badhaayi, mand kare ki yeh bhalaayi - "I > > will not wrong, even those that have wronged me." > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 , "Chris Kirner" <chriskirner1956 wrote: > > Great post, Tanmaya! > > You really know your Sanskrit, don't you! Chris, One correction. I really don't know Sanskrit very well. Over the years I've picked up a small amount of vocabulary and only a very superficial knowledge of grammar. This much is very helpful, however, because, as Swamiji mentioned recently, the Sanskrit language contains so many layers of meaning that books can be, and have been, written on the theme of only one word or a single phrase. And it follows from that that no translation into English can do more than scratch the surface of an ocean of spiritual meaning. So, I have learned enough, with the help of dictionaries and grammar books, to derive the very rich layers of meaning from a shloka that seems particularly important. Whenever I have tried to go further, however, it has been my experience that the routine study dried me out, and very soon medition, prayer and worship pulled me away from the effort. Apart from that, I have also learned to read the devanagari script, and that has been a great aid as well, in chanting and searching out the meanings of words, in addition to merely speaking the syllables as sound. And I recommend it to any who care to take the time. I write the above for two reasons: first, to make it very clear that my purpose in these postings is by no manner of means to "perform" in any ego or intellectual way-I know how people think about pundritry etc.-and with good reason. But I am much too serious about my religion to indulge in that. And second, it is my heartfelt belief that we need to have as much understanding of our spiritual practices and life as possible, ie. we need to fly on the two wings of understanding as well as feeling. Anyone who knows even a little of the history of religions can understand the need for that kind of balance, and we owe it to Sree Maa and Swamiji to guard against the decline which inevitably follows any one-sided practice of religion. Respectfully, Tanmaya > > Jai Maa! > Chris > > > , "ty_maa" dsjames@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sadhumaa, > > > > The mantra we are repeating now begins: Sarvaa (all), baadhaa ( pain, > > hurt, opposition), > > prashamanam (pacification, peace). trailokyasya (in the three > > worlds,-whether they be heaven, earth and hell, or gross, subtle, and > > causal). > > > > The Mantra, then, is a request to bring peace to all that is bad > > (including all the "my bads": mistakes, poor judgements, false turnings, > > and unwise actions) which threaten the peace in the three worlds. > > > > The One being requested is Akhila-Ishwarii. Ishwara is God, Ishwarii, > > the Goddess. And the aspect of the Devii being invoked here is akhila: > > "Complete, whole", ie. the Goddess as all-pervading, without even the > > slightest break, division, or gap. She is everything, everywhere, as > > well as all the space in between. There can be no division or separation > > in that Goddess, that Reality, that Truth. She is the Goddess of > > no-separation, no-other. > > > > Therefore, it is that dynamic Goddess alone Who can heal and remove the > > perceived (but in Reality non-exstent) differences, separations, and > > polarizations which torment our disturbed world. > > > > The Upanisad says, "Where one sees an other, where one hears an other, > > there is fear". > > > > From that fear arises the need to "protect our self interests", and from > > that need arises the further need to justify the "military option". > > ...And this plays out on all levels, and in all relationships where > > Akhileshwarii is not consciously invoked, recognized, and Present. > > > > Ultimately, all the "bads" of the world arise from the fear of losing > > touch with our Divine Mother Who is Everything and Everywhere at all > > Times. > > > > Respectfully, > > > > Tanmaya > > > > > > > > , "Sadhu Maa" <sadumaa@> wrote: > > > > > > ~Not giving sorrow to others, not lying, not speaking ill of anyone, > > > these are "niched rup saadhan".~ > > > > > > Some time ago, I was put on a mailing list and now get daily postings > > > related to the Bhagavad Gita. I do not know the source but have found > > > great wisdom in the messages. This posting in my box today seems to > > > relate to both continued discussion in the group about truth and > > > something that has been weighing on my heart. There is a sadhak with a > > > good and loving heart but with some shortcomings, as we all have. I > > > heard others speaking critically and it hurt my heart. In the Bahai > > > tradition there is guidance to never speak of anyone unless they are > > > present. This helps remind us to avoid hurtful gossip (for ourselves > > > and others)and I think it is related to truth. The following post > > > confirms for me why we are told to see only the good in each other. > > > Please read on. Jai Maa > > > > > > Shree Hari: > > > > > > Maagh Krishna Ashthami, Vikram Samvat 2063, Thursday > > > 11th January, 2007, Thursday > > > > > > Ram Ram > > > > > > Gist: Even though it appears to be greater to do something good, but > > > in reality not doing bad or not doing evil to others, including your > > > own self, is a greater spiritual practice. Therefore do not think, > > > see, or do bad to anyone. By leaving bad qualities, good qualities > > > will naturally prevail. By giving up evil, we will be serving this > > > entire Universe and we will begin to see God in everyone . > > > > > > How to Become Flawless (Nirmal Kaise Bane) > > > > > > Brother and Sisters ! Let us see ! A practice of doing good to others > > > is called "Viddhi rup saadhan" and a practice of giving up our flaws, > > > leaving our bad qualities is "niched rup saadhan". Practices such as > > > reciting name of God (nama jap), chanting His name (kirtan), singing > > > his glories (bhajan), giving charity (daan), these are "viddhi rup > > > saadhan." Whereas on other hand not giving sorrow to others, not > > > lying, not speaking ill of anyone, these are "niched rup saadhan". > > > > > > Nowadays, we put more emphasis on doing something good, taking some > > > good action. We do not pay attention to giving up our flaws, such as > > > not lying, not speaking ill of others, not giving sorrow to others > > > etc. Giving up your bad qualities is a greater spiritual practice. By > > > not giving sorrow to anyone is better and provides greater benefit to > > > a larger whole. It benefits the world at large. Even though it appears > > > to be greater to do something good, but in reality not doing bad is a > > > greater and more beneficial. Therefore let us commit to the following > > > points - > > > > > > 1. Do not consider anyone bad (maananaa) > > > 2. Do not see anything bad in anyone (dekhnaa) > > > 3. Do not do anything bad to anyone (karnaa) > > > > > > By putting these three into practice, we will be serving this entire > > > Universe. It is for the benefit of humanity at large. On the other > > > hand, by considering anyone bad, we will hurt everyone, including > > > ourself and the other person. But by not considering someone bad, no > > > one will be hurt, and nothing bad will happen to you from within. > > > Therefore, do not consider anyone bad. Do not steal from others. When > > > we hurt others, pay disrespect to them, they will suffer losses. It > > > will cause difficulty to them, and it is taking away their rights. > > > > > > By leaving bad qualities, good qualities will naturally prevail. > > > Therefore, do not think badly of anyone, do not say bad things about > > > anyone, do not listen to bad things being said about anyone. This > > > includes yourself as well. Do not see bad qualities even in your > > > ownself. By not seeing anything bad in anyone, you will begin to see > > > God in everyone (sab jagaha Ishvar roop hai). But by seeing evil in > > > other, it will hinder your experience of seeing God in All (Vasudeva > > > Sarvam). > > > > > > So commit, from today onwards - "I will not see, say of, or do bad to > > > any one." Uma sant ki yeh badhaayi, mand kare ki yeh bhalaayi - "I > > > will not wrong, even those that have wronged me." > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Namaste Tanmaya, Thanks very much for this explanation. It has really given me a deeper understanding of the mantra. On Friday i reached in a little early from work and procceding to commence weekly cleaning prior to evening sadhana so i turn the pc on so that Maa's chanting would accompanying me. The chores were done so smoothly that i started to wonder if something was missed out. After taking a shower, i entered the prayer room and it was as though Mother's face was everywhere, on every space in that room. There was an inexpressable joy i sang, danced with Swamiji (photo) talked with Maa. When I finally came out of the room to clean the utensils it was amazing to see that i had spent close to 4 hrs there, i felt so free, so at peace. Jai Maa Jai Swamiji , "ty_maa" <dsjames wrote: > > > Dear Sadhumaa, > > The mantra we are repeating now begins: Sarvaa (all), baadhaa ( pain, > hurt, opposition), > prashamanam (pacification, peace). trailokyasya (in the three > worlds,-whether they be heaven, earth and hell, or gross, subtle, and > causal). > > The Mantra, then, is a request to bring peace to all that is bad > (including all the "my bads": mistakes, poor judgements, false turnings, > and unwise actions) which threaten the peace in the three worlds. > > The One being requested is Akhila-Ishwarii. Ishwara is God, Ishwarii, > the Goddess. And the aspect of the Devii being invoked here is akhila: > "Complete, whole", ie. the Goddess as all-pervading, without even the > slightest break, division, or gap. She is everything, everywhere, as > well as all the space in between. There can be no division or separation > in that Goddess, that Reality, that Truth. She is the Goddess of > no-separation, no-other. > > Therefore, it is that dynamic Goddess alone Who can heal and remove the > perceived (but in Reality non-exstent) differences, separations, and > polarizations which torment our disturbed world. > > The Upanisad says, "Where one sees an other, where one hears an other, > there is fear". > > From that fear arises the need to "protect our self interests", and from > that need arises the further need to justify the "military option". > ...And this plays out on all levels, and in all relationships where > Akhileshwarii is not consciously invoked, recognized, and Present. > > Ultimately, all the "bads" of the world arise from the fear of losing > touch with our Divine Mother Who is Everything and Everywhere at all > Times. > > Respectfully, > > Tanmaya > > > > , "Sadhu Maa" <sadumaa@> wrote: > > > > ~Not giving sorrow to others, not lying, not speaking ill of anyone, > > these are "niched rup saadhan".~ > > > > Some time ago, I was put on a mailing list and now get daily postings > > related to the Bhagavad Gita. I do not know the source but have found > > great wisdom in the messages. This posting in my box today seems to > > relate to both continued discussion in the group about truth and > > something that has been weighing on my heart. There is a sadhak with a > > good and loving heart but with some shortcomings, as we all have. I > > heard others speaking critically and it hurt my heart. In the Bahai > > tradition there is guidance to never speak of anyone unless they are > > present. This helps remind us to avoid hurtful gossip (for ourselves > > and others)and I think it is related to truth. The following post > > confirms for me why we are told to see only the good in each other. > > Please read on. Jai Maa > > > > Shree Hari: > > > > Maagh Krishna Ashthami, Vikram Samvat 2063, Thursday > > 11th January, 2007, Thursday > > > > Ram Ram > > > > Gist: Even though it appears to be greater to do something good, but > > in reality not doing bad or not doing evil to others, including your > > own self, is a greater spiritual practice. Therefore do not think, > > see, or do bad to anyone. By leaving bad qualities, good qualities > > will naturally prevail. By giving up evil, we will be serving this > > entire Universe and we will begin to see God in everyone . > > > > How to Become Flawless (Nirmal Kaise Bane) > > > > Brother and Sisters ! Let us see ! A practice of doing good to others > > is called "Viddhi rup saadhan" and a practice of giving up our flaws, > > leaving our bad qualities is "niched rup saadhan". Practices such as > > reciting name of God (nama jap), chanting His name (kirtan), singing > > his glories (bhajan), giving charity (daan), these are "viddhi rup > > saadhan." Whereas on other hand not giving sorrow to others, not > > lying, not speaking ill of anyone, these are "niched rup saadhan". > > > > Nowadays, we put more emphasis on doing something good, taking some > > good action. We do not pay attention to giving up our flaws, such as > > not lying, not speaking ill of others, not giving sorrow to others > > etc. Giving up your bad qualities is a greater spiritual practice. By > > not giving sorrow to anyone is better and provides greater benefit to > > a larger whole. It benefits the world at large. Even though it appears > > to be greater to do something good, but in reality not doing bad is a > > greater and more beneficial. Therefore let us commit to the following > > points - > > > > 1. Do not consider anyone bad (maananaa) > > 2. Do not see anything bad in anyone (dekhnaa) > > 3. Do not do anything bad to anyone (karnaa) > > > > By putting these three into practice, we will be serving this entire > > Universe. It is for the benefit of humanity at large. On the other > > hand, by considering anyone bad, we will hurt everyone, including > > ourself and the other person. But by not considering someone bad, no > > one will be hurt, and nothing bad will happen to you from within. > > Therefore, do not consider anyone bad. Do not steal from others. When > > we hurt others, pay disrespect to them, they will suffer losses. It > > will cause difficulty to them, and it is taking away their rights. > > > > By leaving bad qualities, good qualities will naturally prevail. > > Therefore, do not think badly of anyone, do not say bad things about > > anyone, do not listen to bad things being said about anyone. This > > includes yourself as well. Do not see bad qualities even in your > > ownself. By not seeing anything bad in anyone, you will begin to see > > God in everyone (sab jagaha Ishvar roop hai). But by seeing evil in > > other, it will hinder your experience of seeing God in All (Vasudeva > > Sarvam). > > > > So commit, from today onwards - "I will not see, say of, or do bad to > > any one." Uma sant ki yeh badhaayi, mand kare ki yeh bhalaayi - "I > > will not wrong, even those that have wronged me." > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 <%40> , "ty_maa" dsjames (AT) pghmail (DOT) com <dsjames (AT) pghmail (DOT) com?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Om%20Shanti%20-%20niched% 20rup%20saadhan> wrote: Anyone who knows even a little of the history of religions can understand the need for that kind of balance, and we owe it to Sree Maa and Swamiji to guard against the decline which inevitably follows any one-sided practice of religion. Tanmaya, Your loving heart and depth of commitment are a great blessing. It is good to be in a family where we are all quite serious about our religion. Your sharing is such wonderful light on the path. May we all live and love in balance by Her grace. Rick Veda Let my every word be a prayer to Her, Every movement of my hands a ritual gesture to Her, Every step I take a circumambulation of Her image, Every morsel I eat a rite of sacrifice to Her, Every time I lay down a prostration at Her feet; Every act of personal pleasure and all else that I do, Let it all be a form of worshipping Her. Adapted from Verse 27 of Shri Aadi Shankara's Saundaryalahari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Dear Tanmaya and all, thank you very much for your enlightning post! I agree with you that even a little knowledge of Sanskrit can yield rich fruit. And you don't need to know much, too. Even without the Devanagari, we can use the dictionary (a link can be found on this website under either 'files' or 'database') and I have found it can be very rewarding and fun to play around with words for a while. You just type in the letters (you can find how to type the funny ones under the 'Help'section) and the dictionary finds the word for you. You can even ask it if it will look for the middle section of words, or the beginning or end, if you're not sure where the word begins and ends. For instance, it has helped me a lot to take a close look at the verb 'badh', which has a relation with the word 'badhaa' in our mantra. It can mean (in its different forms): 'to press, to force, to repel, to remove, to harass, to pain, to trouble, to resist, to shrink from, to be hemmed up, to be pent up, to resist, to oppose, to prevent, to oppress, to harass, to feel an aversion for, to be knocking against." To me, all these meanings tell me that what we experience as injury or hurt or hostility, is in fact the result of resistance to or shrinking from the unhindered flow of Divine Mother's Power, which is hemmed in or pent up as long as there is an aversion to this or that or a knocking against this or that (ouch!). The mantra asks Divine Mother to pacify these opposing forces, to remove any resistance or opposition to Her Loving Grace. Anyway, that is how I read it, and of course, this is only one interpretation. Kind of boggles the mind, this Sanskrit, with love, henny , "ty_maa" <dsjames wrote: > > > , "Chris Kirner" <chriskirner1956@> > wrote: > > > > Great post, Tanmaya! > > > > You really know your Sanskrit, don't you! > > > > Chris, > > One correction. I really don't know Sanskrit very well. > > Over the years I've picked up a small amount of vocabulary and only a > very superficial knowledge of grammar. This much is very helpful, > however, because, as Swamiji mentioned recently, the Sanskrit language > contains so many layers of meaning that books can be, and have been, > written on the theme of only one word or a single phrase. And it follows > from that that no translation into English can do more than scratch the > surface of an ocean of spiritual meaning. > > So, I have learned enough, with the help of dictionaries and grammar > books, to derive the very rich layers of meaning from a shloka that > seems particularly important. Whenever I have tried to go further, > however, it has been my experience that the routine study dried me out, > and very soon medition, prayer and worship pulled me away from the > effort. > > Apart from that, I have also learned to read the devanagari script, and > that has been a great aid as well, in chanting and searching out the > meanings of words, in addition to merely speaking the syllables as > sound. And I recommend it to any who care to take the time. > > I write the above for two reasons: first, to make it very clear that my > purpose in these postings is by no manner of means to "perform" in any > ego or intellectual way-I know how people think about pundritry etc. -and > with good reason. But I am much too serious about my religion to indulge > in that. > > And second, it is my heartfelt belief that we need to have as much > understanding of our spiritual practices and life as possible, ie. we > need to fly on the two wings of understanding as well as feeling. Anyone > who knows even a little of the history of religions can understand the > need for that kind of balance, and we owe it to Sree Maa and Swamiji to > guard against the decline which inevitably follows any one-sided > practice of religion. > > Respectfully, > > Tanmaya > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Maa! > > Chris > > > > > > , "ty_maa" dsjames@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Sadhumaa, > > > > > > The mantra we are repeating now begins: Sarvaa (all), baadhaa ( > pain, > > > hurt, opposition), > > > prashamanam (pacification, peace). trailokyasya (in the three > > > worlds,-whether they be heaven, earth and hell, or gross, subtle, > and > > > causal). > > > > > > The Mantra, then, is a request to bring peace to all that is bad > > > (including all the "my bads": mistakes, poor judgements, false > turnings, > > > and unwise actions) which threaten the peace in the three worlds. > > > > > > The One being requested is Akhila-Ishwarii. Ishwara is God, > Ishwarii, > > > the Goddess. And the aspect of the Devii being invoked here is > akhila: > > > "Complete, whole", ie. the Goddess as all-pervading, without even > the > > > slightest break, division, or gap. She is everything, everywhere, as > > > well as all the space in between. There can be no division or > separation > > > in that Goddess, that Reality, that Truth. She is the Goddess of > > > no-separation, no-other. > > > > > > Therefore, it is that dynamic Goddess alone Who can heal and remove > the > > > perceived (but in Reality non-exstent) differences, separations, and > > > polarizations which torment our disturbed world. > > > > > > The Upanisad says, "Where one sees an other, where one hears an > other, > > > there is fear". > > > > > > From that fear arises the need to "protect our self interests", and > from > > > that need arises the further need to justify the "military option". > > > ...And this plays out on all levels, and in all relationships where > > > Akhileshwarii is not consciously invoked, recognized, and Present. > > > > > > Ultimately, all the "bads" of the world arise from the fear of > losing > > > touch with our Divine Mother Who is Everything and Everywhere at all > > > Times. > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > > Tanmaya > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Sadhu Maa" <sadumaa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > ~Not giving sorrow to others, not lying, not speaking ill of > anyone, > > > > these are "niched rup saadhan".~ > > > > > > > > Some time ago, I was put on a mailing list and now get daily > postings > > > > related to the Bhagavad Gita. I do not know the source but have > found > > > > great wisdom in the messages. This posting in my box today seems > to > > > > relate to both continued discussion in the group about truth and > > > > something that has been weighing on my heart. There is a sadhak > with a > > > > good and loving heart but with some shortcomings, as we all have. > I > > > > heard others speaking critically and it hurt my heart. In the > Bahai > > > > tradition there is guidance to never speak of anyone unless they > are > > > > present. This helps remind us to avoid hurtful gossip (for > ourselves > > > > and others)and I think it is related to truth. The following post > > > > confirms for me why we are told to see only the good in each > other. > > > > Please read on. Jai Maa > > > > > > > > Shree Hari: > > > > > > > > Maagh Krishna Ashthami, Vikram Samvat 2063, Thursday > > > > 11th January, 2007, Thursday > > > > > > > > Ram Ram > > > > > > > > Gist: Even though it appears to be greater to do something good, > but > > > > in reality not doing bad or not doing evil to others, including > your > > > > own self, is a greater spiritual practice. Therefore do not think, > > > > see, or do bad to anyone. By leaving bad qualities, good qualities > > > > will naturally prevail. By giving up evil, we will be serving this > > > > entire Universe and we will begin to see God in everyone . > > > > > > > > How to Become Flawless (Nirmal Kaise Bane) > > > > > > > > Brother and Sisters ! Let us see ! A practice of doing good to > others > > > > is called "Viddhi rup saadhan" and a practice of giving up our > flaws, > > > > leaving our bad qualities is "niched rup saadhan". Practices such > as > > > > reciting name of God (nama jap), chanting His name (kirtan), > singing > > > > his glories (bhajan), giving charity (daan), these are "viddhi rup > > > > saadhan." Whereas on other hand not giving sorrow to others, not > > > > lying, not speaking ill of anyone, these are "niched rup saadhan". > > > > > > > > Nowadays, we put more emphasis on doing something good, taking > some > > > > good action. We do not pay attention to giving up our flaws, such > as > > > > not lying, not speaking ill of others, not giving sorrow to others > > > > etc. Giving up your bad qualities is a greater spiritual practice. > By > > > > not giving sorrow to anyone is better and provides greater benefit > to > > > > a larger whole. It benefits the world at large. Even though it > appears > > > > to be greater to do something good, but in reality not doing bad > is a > > > > greater and more beneficial. Therefore let us commit to the > following > > > > points - > > > > > > > > 1. Do not consider anyone bad (maananaa) > > > > 2. Do not see anything bad in anyone (dekhnaa) > > > > 3. Do not do anything bad to anyone (karnaa) > > > > > > > > By putting these three into practice, we will be serving this > entire > > > > Universe. It is for the benefit of humanity at large. On the other > > > > hand, by considering anyone bad, we will hurt everyone, including > > > > ourself and the other person. But by not considering someone bad, > no > > > > one will be hurt, and nothing bad will happen to you from within. > > > > Therefore, do not consider anyone bad. Do not steal from others. > When > > > > we hurt others, pay disrespect to them, they will suffer losses. > It > > > > will cause difficulty to them, and it is taking away their rights. > > > > > > > > By leaving bad qualities, good qualities will naturally prevail. > > > > Therefore, do not think badly of anyone, do not say bad things > about > > > > anyone, do not listen to bad things being said about anyone. This > > > > includes yourself as well. Do not see bad qualities even in your > > > > ownself. By not seeing anything bad in anyone, you will begin to > see > > > > God in everyone (sab jagaha Ishvar roop hai). But by seeing evil > in > > > > other, it will hinder your experience of seeing God in All > (Vasudeva > > > > Sarvam). > > > > > > > > So commit, from today onwards - "I will not see, say of, or do bad > to > > > > any one." Uma sant ki yeh badhaayi, mand kare ki yeh bhalaayi - "I > > > > will not wrong, even those that have wronged me." > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Thanks Henny. You exemplify exactly what I was talking about. Tanmaya , "henny_v_i" <henny_v_i wrote: > > Dear Tanmaya and all, > > thank you very much for your enlightning post! I agree with you that > even a little knowledge of Sanskrit can yield rich fruit. And you > don't need to know much, too. Even without the Devanagari, we can use > the dictionary (a link can be found on this website under either > 'files' or 'database') and I have found it can be very rewarding and > fun to play around with words for a while. You just type in the > letters (you can find how to type the funny ones under the > 'Help'section) and the dictionary finds the word for you. You can even > ask it if it will look for the middle section of words, or the > beginning or end, if you're not sure where the word begins and ends. > For instance, it has helped me a lot to take a close look at the verb > 'badh', which has a relation with the word 'badhaa' in our mantra. > It can mean (in its different forms): 'to press, to force, to repel, > to remove, to harass, to pain, to trouble, to resist, to shrink from, > to be hemmed up, to be pent up, to resist, to oppose, to prevent, to > oppress, to harass, to feel an aversion for, to be knocking against." > To me, all these meanings tell me that what we experience as injury or > hurt or hostility, is in fact the result of resistance to or shrinking > from the unhindered flow of Divine Mother's Power, which is hemmed in > or pent up as long as there is an aversion to this or that or a > knocking against this or that (ouch!). The mantra asks Divine Mother > to pacify these opposing forces, to remove any resistance or > opposition to Her Loving Grace. Anyway, that is how I read it, and of > course, this is only one interpretation. Kind of boggles the mind, > this Sanskrit, > > with love, > henny > > , "ty_maa" dsjames@ wrote: > > > > > > , "Chris Kirner" > <chriskirner1956@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Great post, Tanmaya! > > > > > > You really know your Sanskrit, don't you! > > > > > > > > Chris, > > > > One correction. I really don't know Sanskrit very well. > > > > Over the years I've picked up a small amount of vocabulary and only > a > > very superficial knowledge of grammar. This much is very helpful, > > however, because, as Swamiji mentioned recently, the Sanskrit > language > > contains so many layers of meaning that books can be, and have been, > > written on the theme of only one word or a single phrase. And it > follows > > from that that no translation into English can do more than scratch > the > > surface of an ocean of spiritual meaning. > > > > So, I have learned enough, with the help of dictionaries and grammar > > books, to derive the very rich layers of meaning from a shloka that > > seems particularly important. Whenever I have tried to go further, > > however, it has been my experience that the routine study dried me > out, > > and very soon medition, prayer and worship pulled me away from the > > effort. > > > > Apart from that, I have also learned to read the devanagari script, > and > > that has been a great aid as well, in chanting and searching out the > > meanings of words, in addition to merely speaking the syllables as > > sound. And I recommend it to any who care to take the time. > > > > I write the above for two reasons: first, to make it very clear that > my > > purpose in these postings is by no manner of means to "perform" in > any > > ego or intellectual way-I know how people think about pundritry etc. > -and > > with good reason. But I am much too serious about my religion to > indulge > > in that. > > > > And second, it is my heartfelt belief that we need to have as much > > understanding of our spiritual practices and life as possible, ie. > we > > need to fly on the two wings of understanding as well as feeling. > Anyone > > who knows even a little of the history of religions can understand > the > > need for that kind of balance, and we owe it to Sree Maa and Swamiji > to > > guard against the decline which inevitably follows any one-sided > > practice of religion. > > > > Respectfully, > > > > Tanmaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Maa! > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > , "ty_maa" dsjames@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sadhumaa, > > > > > > > > The mantra we are repeating now begins: Sarvaa (all), baadhaa ( > > pain, > > > > hurt, opposition), > > > > prashamanam (pacification, peace). trailokyasya (in the three > > > > worlds,-whether they be heaven, earth and hell, or gross, > subtle, > > and > > > > causal). > > > > > > > > The Mantra, then, is a request to bring peace to all that is bad > > > > (including all the "my bads": mistakes, poor judgements, false > > turnings, > > > > and unwise actions) which threaten the peace in the three > worlds. > > > > > > > > The One being requested is Akhila-Ishwarii. Ishwara is God, > > Ishwarii, > > > > the Goddess. And the aspect of the Devii being invoked here is > > akhila: > > > > "Complete, whole", ie. the Goddess as all-pervading, without > even > > the > > > > slightest break, division, or gap. She is everything, > everywhere, as > > > > well as all the space in between. There can be no division or > > separation > > > > in that Goddess, that Reality, that Truth. She is the Goddess of > > > > no-separation, no-other. > > > > > > > > Therefore, it is that dynamic Goddess alone Who can heal and > remove > > the > > > > perceived (but in Reality non-exstent) differences, separations, > and > > > > polarizations which torment our disturbed world. > > > > > > > > The Upanisad says, "Where one sees an other, where one hears an > > other, > > > > there is fear". > > > > > > > > From that fear arises the need to "protect our self interests", > and > > from > > > > that need arises the further need to justify the "military > option". > > > > ...And this plays out on all levels, and in all relationships > where > > > > Akhileshwarii is not consciously invoked, recognized, and > Present. > > > > > > > > Ultimately, all the "bads" of the world arise from the fear of > > losing > > > > touch with our Divine Mother Who is Everything and Everywhere at > all > > > > Times. > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > > > > Tanmaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Sadhu Maa" <sadumaa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ~Not giving sorrow to others, not lying, not speaking ill of > > anyone, > > > > > these are "niched rup saadhan".~ > > > > > > > > > > Some time ago, I was put on a mailing list and now get daily > > postings > > > > > related to the Bhagavad Gita. I do not know the source but > have > > found > > > > > great wisdom in the messages. This posting in my box today > seems > > to > > > > > relate to both continued discussion in the group about truth > and > > > > > something that has been weighing on my heart. There is a > sadhak > > with a > > > > > good and loving heart but with some shortcomings, as we all > have. > > I > > > > > heard others speaking critically and it hurt my heart. In the > > Bahai > > > > > tradition there is guidance to never speak of anyone unless > they > > are > > > > > present. This helps remind us to avoid hurtful gossip (for > > ourselves > > > > > and others)and I think it is related to truth. The following > post > > > > > confirms for me why we are told to see only the good in each > > other. > > > > > Please read on. Jai Maa > > > > > > > > > > Shree Hari: > > > > > > > > > > Maagh Krishna Ashthami, Vikram Samvat 2063, Thursday > > > > > 11th January, 2007, Thursday > > > > > > > > > > Ram Ram > > > > > > > > > > Gist: Even though it appears to be greater to do something > good, > > but > > > > > in reality not doing bad or not doing evil to others, > including > > your > > > > > own self, is a greater spiritual practice. Therefore do not > think, > > > > > see, or do bad to anyone. By leaving bad qualities, good > qualities > > > > > will naturally prevail. By giving up evil, we will be serving > this > > > > > entire Universe and we will begin to see God in everyone . > > > > > > > > > > How to Become Flawless (Nirmal Kaise Bane) > > > > > > > > > > Brother and Sisters ! Let us see ! A practice of doing good to > > others > > > > > is called "Viddhi rup saadhan" and a practice of giving up our > > flaws, > > > > > leaving our bad qualities is "niched rup saadhan". Practices > such > > as > > > > > reciting name of God (nama jap), chanting His name (kirtan), > > singing > > > > > his glories (bhajan), giving charity (daan), these are "viddhi > rup > > > > > saadhan." Whereas on other hand not giving sorrow to others, > not > > > > > lying, not speaking ill of anyone, these are "niched rup > saadhan". > > > > > > > > > > Nowadays, we put more emphasis on doing something good, taking > > some > > > > > good action. We do not pay attention to giving up our flaws, > such > > as > > > > > not lying, not speaking ill of others, not giving sorrow to > others > > > > > etc. Giving up your bad qualities is a greater spiritual > practice. > > By > > > > > not giving sorrow to anyone is better and provides greater > benefit > > to > > > > > a larger whole. It benefits the world at large. Even though it > > appears > > > > > to be greater to do something good, but in reality not doing > bad > > is a > > > > > greater and more beneficial. Therefore let us commit to the > > following > > > > > points - > > > > > > > > > > 1. Do not consider anyone bad (maananaa) > > > > > 2. Do not see anything bad in anyone (dekhnaa) > > > > > 3. Do not do anything bad to anyone (karnaa) > > > > > > > > > > By putting these three into practice, we will be serving this > > entire > > > > > Universe. It is for the benefit of humanity at large. On the > other > > > > > hand, by considering anyone bad, we will hurt everyone, > including > > > > > ourself and the other person. But by not considering someone > bad, > > no > > > > > one will be hurt, and nothing bad will happen to you from > within. > > > > > Therefore, do not consider anyone bad. Do not steal from > others. > > When > > > > > we hurt others, pay disrespect to them, they will suffer > losses. > > It > > > > > will cause difficulty to them, and it is taking away their > rights. > > > > > > > > > > By leaving bad qualities, good qualities will naturally > prevail. > > > > > Therefore, do not think badly of anyone, do not say bad things > > about > > > > > anyone, do not listen to bad things being said about anyone. > This > > > > > includes yourself as well. Do not see bad qualities even in > your > > > > > ownself. By not seeing anything bad in anyone, you will begin > to > > see > > > > > God in everyone (sab jagaha Ishvar roop hai). But by seeing > evil > > in > > > > > other, it will hinder your experience of seeing God in All > > (Vasudeva > > > > > Sarvam). > > > > > > > > > > So commit, from today onwards - "I will not see, say of, or do > bad > > to > > > > > any one." Uma sant ki yeh badhaayi, mand kare ki yeh bhalaayi > - "I > > > > > will not wrong, even those that have wronged me." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Hi Tanmaya, I agree with you (obviously ) about the value of knowledge. To me there is great beauty in spiritual knowledge. It gives form and texture to the Divine. I think you've at least then, made a good beginning with your Sanskrit study. Jai Maa! Chris , "ty_maa" <dsjames wrote: > > > , "Chris Kirner" <chriskirner1956@> > wrote: > > > > Great post, Tanmaya! > > > > You really know your Sanskrit, don't you! > > > > Chris, > > One correction. I really don't know Sanskrit very well. > > Over the years I've picked up a small amount of vocabulary and only a > very superficial knowledge of grammar. This much is very helpful, > however, because, as Swamiji mentioned recently, the Sanskrit language > contains so many layers of meaning that books can be, and have been, > written on the theme of only one word or a single phrase. And it follows > from that that no translation into English can do more than scratch the > surface of an ocean of spiritual meaning. > > So, I have learned enough, with the help of dictionaries and grammar > books, to derive the very rich layers of meaning from a shloka that > seems particularly important. Whenever I have tried to go further, > however, it has been my experience that the routine study dried me out, > and very soon medition, prayer and worship pulled me away from the > effort. > > Apart from that, I have also learned to read the devanagari script, and > that has been a great aid as well, in chanting and searching out the > meanings of words, in addition to merely speaking the syllables as > sound. And I recommend it to any who care to take the time. > > I write the above for two reasons: first, to make it very clear that my > purpose in these postings is by no manner of means to "perform" in any > ego or intellectual way-I know how people think about pundritry etc.-and > with good reason. But I am much too serious about my religion to indulge > in that. > > And second, it is my heartfelt belief that we need to have as much > understanding of our spiritual practices and life as possible, ie. we > need to fly on the two wings of understanding as well as feeling. Anyone > who knows even a little of the history of religions can understand the > need for that kind of balance, and we owe it to Sree Maa and Swamiji to > guard against the decline which inevitably follows any one-sided > practice of religion. > > Respectfully, > > Tanmaya > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Maa! > > Chris > > > > > > , "ty_maa" dsjames@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Sadhumaa, > > > > > > The mantra we are repeating now begins: Sarvaa (all), baadhaa ( > pain, > > > hurt, opposition), > > > prashamanam (pacification, peace). trailokyasya (in the three > > > worlds,-whether they be heaven, earth and hell, or gross, subtle, > and > > > causal). > > > > > > The Mantra, then, is a request to bring peace to all that is bad > > > (including all the "my bads": mistakes, poor judgements, false > turnings, > > > and unwise actions) which threaten the peace in the three worlds. > > > > > > The One being requested is Akhila-Ishwarii. Ishwara is God, > Ishwarii, > > > the Goddess. And the aspect of the Devii being invoked here is > akhila: > > > "Complete, whole", ie. the Goddess as all-pervading, without even > the > > > slightest break, division, or gap. She is everything, everywhere, as > > > well as all the space in between. There can be no division or > separation > > > in that Goddess, that Reality, that Truth. She is the Goddess of > > > no-separation, no-other. > > > > > > Therefore, it is that dynamic Goddess alone Who can heal and remove > the > > > perceived (but in Reality non-exstent) differences, separations, and > > > polarizations which torment our disturbed world. > > > > > > The Upanisad says, "Where one sees an other, where one hears an > other, > > > there is fear". > > > > > > From that fear arises the need to "protect our self interests", and > from > > > that need arises the further need to justify the "military option". > > > ...And this plays out on all levels, and in all relationships where > > > Akhileshwarii is not consciously invoked, recognized, and Present. > > > > > > Ultimately, all the "bads" of the world arise from the fear of > losing > > > touch with our Divine Mother Who is Everything and Everywhere at all > > > Times. > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > > Tanmaya > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Sadhu Maa" <sadumaa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > ~Not giving sorrow to others, not lying, not speaking ill of > anyone, > > > > these are "niched rup saadhan".~ > > > > > > > > Some time ago, I was put on a mailing list and now get daily > postings > > > > related to the Bhagavad Gita. I do not know the source but have > found > > > > great wisdom in the messages. This posting in my box today seems > to > > > > relate to both continued discussion in the group about truth and > > > > something that has been weighing on my heart. There is a sadhak > with a > > > > good and loving heart but with some shortcomings, as we all have. > I > > > > heard others speaking critically and it hurt my heart. In the > Bahai > > > > tradition there is guidance to never speak of anyone unless they > are > > > > present. This helps remind us to avoid hurtful gossip (for > ourselves > > > > and others)and I think it is related to truth. The following post > > > > confirms for me why we are told to see only the good in each > other. > > > > Please read on. Jai Maa > > > > > > > > Shree Hari: > > > > > > > > Maagh Krishna Ashthami, Vikram Samvat 2063, Thursday > > > > 11th January, 2007, Thursday > > > > > > > > Ram Ram > > > > > > > > Gist: Even though it appears to be greater to do something good, > but > > > > in reality not doing bad or not doing evil to others, including > your > > > > own self, is a greater spiritual practice. Therefore do not think, > > > > see, or do bad to anyone. By leaving bad qualities, good qualities > > > > will naturally prevail. By giving up evil, we will be serving this > > > > entire Universe and we will begin to see God in everyone . > > > > > > > > How to Become Flawless (Nirmal Kaise Bane) > > > > > > > > Brother and Sisters ! Let us see ! A practice of doing good to > others > > > > is called "Viddhi rup saadhan" and a practice of giving up our > flaws, > > > > leaving our bad qualities is "niched rup saadhan". Practices such > as > > > > reciting name of God (nama jap), chanting His name (kirtan), > singing > > > > his glories (bhajan), giving charity (daan), these are "viddhi rup > > > > saadhan." Whereas on other hand not giving sorrow to others, not > > > > lying, not speaking ill of anyone, these are "niched rup saadhan". > > > > > > > > Nowadays, we put more emphasis on doing something good, taking > some > > > > good action. We do not pay attention to giving up our flaws, such > as > > > > not lying, not speaking ill of others, not giving sorrow to others > > > > etc. Giving up your bad qualities is a greater spiritual practice. > By > > > > not giving sorrow to anyone is better and provides greater benefit > to > > > > a larger whole. It benefits the world at large. Even though it > appears > > > > to be greater to do something good, but in reality not doing bad > is a > > > > greater and more beneficial. Therefore let us commit to the > following > > > > points - > > > > > > > > 1. Do not consider anyone bad (maananaa) > > > > 2. Do not see anything bad in anyone (dekhnaa) > > > > 3. Do not do anything bad to anyone (karnaa) > > > > > > > > By putting these three into practice, we will be serving this > entire > > > > Universe. It is for the benefit of humanity at large. On the other > > > > hand, by considering anyone bad, we will hurt everyone, including > > > > ourself and the other person. But by not considering someone bad, > no > > > > one will be hurt, and nothing bad will happen to you from within. > > > > Therefore, do not consider anyone bad. Do not steal from others. > When > > > > we hurt others, pay disrespect to them, they will suffer losses. > It > > > > will cause difficulty to them, and it is taking away their rights. > > > > > > > > By leaving bad qualities, good qualities will naturally prevail. > > > > Therefore, do not think badly of anyone, do not say bad things > about > > > > anyone, do not listen to bad things being said about anyone. This > > > > includes yourself as well. Do not see bad qualities even in your > > > > ownself. By not seeing anything bad in anyone, you will begin to > see > > > > God in everyone (sab jagaha Ishvar roop hai). But by seeing evil > in > > > > other, it will hinder your experience of seeing God in All > (Vasudeva > > > > Sarvam). > > > > > > > > So commit, from today onwards - "I will not see, say of, or do bad > to > > > > any one." Uma sant ki yeh badhaayi, mand kare ki yeh bhalaayi - "I > > > > will not wrong, even those that have wronged me." > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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