Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Sat Nam, Friends, I have been asked by members of my Unitarian Universalist congregation to provide a service for the congregation on yoga. Knowing that the congregation has an unusually diverse population, I want to provide an experience that will be "digestible" for 80 year olds as well as 20 year olds. Also I want to speak about yoga and not make it a yoga class, as we are all (100 of us) generally sitting in pews. :-) Could any of the many teachers in this list comment on my ideas? I believe there is a meditation that would involve the "finger magic" of Breathwalk (touching tips of fingers to thumbs of each hand while reciting softly Sa Ta Na Ma, while perhaps lightly pulling the navel point). I was thinking of offering something like this first for about 5 to 7 mins, followed by (or following) alternate nostril breathing for another 5 mins. Then I would launch into my "Sat Nam" sermon in which I plan to discuss the idea that we first become healthy, then happy, and finally holy, after realizing our true nature. The whole service is ideally to last about 35 mins. I thought about ending with a chant, Ra, Ma, Da Sa perhaps. Any suggestions or refinements any of you might be able to offer are most welcome! xo Avneesh Singh, Michael Conley Milford New Hampshire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Dear Avneesh, Kirtan Kriya! Kirtan Kriya is the 'finder magic' of Breathwalk with Sa Ta Na Ma. Are you familiar with this? It is easily practiced by anyone sitting with comfortably erect spine. Church pews or chairs would work beautifully. People very new to Kundalini yoga have commented on the effectiveness of this Kriya. It is in many manuals, you can probably find it online at yogatech.com. I also like Seven Wave Sat Nam to introduce the flow of energy to people. Your congregation is blessed! Guru Gopal Kaur On Monday, January 15, 2007, at 11:03 AM, avneeshsingh22 wrote: > Sat Nam, Friends, > > I have been asked by members of my Unitarian Universalist congregation > to provide a service for the congregation on yoga. Knowing that the > congregation has an unusually diverse population, I want to provide an > experience that will be "digestible" for 80 year olds as well as 20 > year olds. Also I want to speak about yoga and not make it a yoga > class, as we are all (100 of us) generally sitting in pews. :-) > Could any of the many teachers in this list comment on my ideas? > > I believe there is a meditation that would involve the "finger magic" > of Breathwalk (touching tips of fingers to thumbs of each hand while > reciting softly Sa Ta Na Ma, while perhaps lightly pulling the navel > point). I was thinking of offering something like this first for > about 5 to 7 mins, followed by (or following) alternate nostril > breathing for another 5 mins. Then I would launch into my "Sat Nam" > sermon in which I plan to discuss the idea that we first become > healthy, then happy, and finally holy, after realizing our true > nature. The whole service is ideally to last about 35 mins. I > thought about ending with a chant, Ra, Ma, Da Sa perhaps. > > Any suggestions or refinements any of you might be able to offer are > most welcome! > > xo > > Avneesh Singh, > Michael Conley > Milford New Hampshire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Sat Nam, Avnessh Singh, My mother belongs to the Unitarian Universalst church. Their musical director is a Sikh and yoga teacher. She gives lessions to the congregation. I think the mediataion you are thinking about is called Kritan Kriya (Sa Ta Na Ma). At the end of the service you can do a healing meditation for the earth with the Ra Ma Da Sa Sa Say So Hung. I asked my mother is about contacting her and she mentione that she is very busy, I am not sure if I can get any help for you, but I will see what I can do. Peace, Love and All Light, Guru Sadhana Seva Philadelphia,PA Kundaliniyoga, "avneeshsingh22" <avneeshsingh22 wrote: > > Sat Nam, Friends, > > I have been asked by members of my Unitarian Universalist congregation > to provide a service for the congregation on yoga. Knowing that the > congregation has an unusually diverse population, I want to provide an > experience that will be "digestible" for 80 year olds as well as 20 > year olds. Also I want to speak about yoga and not make it a yoga > class, as we are all (100 of us) generally sitting in pews. :-) > Could any of the many teachers in this list comment on my ideas? > > I believe there is a meditation that would involve the "finger magic" > of Breathwalk (touching tips of fingers to thumbs of each hand while > reciting softly Sa Ta Na Ma, while perhaps lightly pulling the navel > point). I was thinking of offering something like this first for > about 5 to 7 mins, followed by (or following) alternate nostril > breathing for another 5 mins. Then I would launch into my "Sat Nam" > sermon in which I plan to discuss the idea that we first become > healthy, then happy, and finally holy, after realizing our true > nature. The whole service is ideally to last about 35 mins. I > thought about ending with a chant, Ra, Ma, Da Sa perhaps. > > Any suggestions or refinements any of you might be able to offer are > most welcome! > > xo > > Avneesh Singh, > Michael Conley > Milford New Hampshire > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Dear Avnish Singh, you are on a double edge knife, beware the reactions. 1--Congregations are based on beliefs, belief is a mine field very difficult to cross over. 2--Protestant congregations are forbidden to pray with languages they don't understand, [sadanas, Sat Nam, Ong Namo, ect..] 3--breathing is not an easy exercise, rather difficult, for untrained people, [breathing is a must in kriyas, besides, our kriyas are mint for specific groups not for random groups]. you have here lethal elements, beware backfire. Teachers, through first steps, prepare next steps. I suggest as a first step: 1-- 5 minutes of psalms to remain in their 'frame of mind' &, to soothe them, 2-- 20 minutes of very loud Gong, [suggest strongly: Song of the Sacred Gong by Sat Jiwan Sing]. Chapels have, usually, good audio systems [Gong need systems with good "bass"]. --Music is an international language [accepted in chapels], --Gong is an international sacred music [welcomed in chapels]. --Gong music is a good KY "intro" for all ages. Gong is the only instrument that: --the Mind has no defense against, --massages on a molecular level, --opens the chakras &, --balances the glands. --experiences the infinite within the finite. Should it work &, Shoul Gururattan aggrees give them next, Sadanas, in american language, choose those who transmute them from the state of slaves to God to the state of "Being" . Bravo for your couragious step. Sat Nam, Nabil Rizqallah Beirut Lebanon - > Sat Nam, Friends, > > I have been asked by members of my Unitarian Universalist congregation > to provide a service for the congregation on yoga. Knowing that the > congregation has an unusually diverse population, I want to provide an > experience that will be "digestible" for 80 year olds as well as 20 > year olds. Also I want to speak about yoga and not make it a yoga > class, as we are all (100 of us) generally sitting in pews. :-) > Could any of the many teachers in this list comment on my ideas? > > I believe there is a meditation that would involve the "finger magic" > of Breathwalk (touching tips of fingers to thumbs of each hand while > reciting softly Sa Ta Na Ma, while perhaps lightly pulling the navel > point). I was thinking of offering something like this first for > about 5 to 7 mins, followed by (or following) alternate nostril > breathing for another 5 mins. Then I would launch into my "Sat Nam" > sermon in which I plan to discuss the idea that we first become > healthy, then happy, and finally holy, after realizing our true > nature. The whole service is ideally to last about 35 mins. I > thought about ending with a chant, Ra, Ma, Da Sa perhaps. > > Any suggestions or refinements any of you might be able to offer are > most welcome! > > xo > > Avneesh Singh, > Michael Conley > Milford New Hampshire > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Dear Avnish, Interesting. I have given a couple of presentations for Unitarians in Indiana -- good hearted people, socially oriented and very much in their heads. I did the 4 part breath with them to quickly change their state from head to heart, activate the navel and pull pranic energy into the body. I did this first and then gave my presentation. They listened. Make sure you tell them to look and listen inside at the end so they connect with their inner space. I think the SA TA NA MA at the end is good. 4 part breath at the beginning will only take 5 minutes total and make them more awake. Tell them it is for energizing and opening the heart. 4 part breath is in the section stress reduction in 3-11 minutes in Relax and Renew. Whatever you choose to do, it will be good. Blessings, Gururattana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 Dear Friends, Thank you so much for your encouragement and suggestions. Question: I would love to do kirtan kriya, but i don't think the service allows enough time to recite the mantra aloud, whispering, silently, whispering and aloud again for any meaningful length of time. I thought that just 5 mins of the finger magic and the sub-vocalizing of Sa Ta Na Ma would give them an experience perhaps. Also, Unitarians are pretty liberal, so I can give them some chanting in any language I choose. They might not like something too challenging or alien however. I didn't think of the gong. That's a possibility! Sat Nam! Avneesh 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Search movie showtime shortcut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 Nabil M Rizqallah wrote: > 2--Protestant congregations are forbidden to pray with languages they don't > understand, Unitarians, as a denomination, no longer consider themselves Protestants. In fact, as a denomination, they no longer consider themselves Christians. Individual Unitarians, may however, consider themselves Christians, Protestants, Buddhists, Yogis, etc. Unitarianism is now non-creedal. You don't have to adhere to a creed. You do have to promise to behave however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 Sat Nam, Concerning the outloud, whisper, silent, do what feels right to you to fit in a short amount of time. Maybe outloud for 1-2 minutes, the whisper 1-2 and then haven them listen for one more minute so they can hear the sound within. That would be a prayerful way to end the service. Enjoy, Sat Nam, Gururattana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 I'm sorry I don't quite understand... Joyce Guru Rattana <gururattan (AT) yogatech (DOT) com> wrote: Sat Nam, Concerning the outloud, whisper, silent, do what feels right to you to fit in a short amount of time. Maybe outloud for 1-2 minutes, the whisper 1-2 and then haven them listen for one more minute so they can hear the sound within. That would be a prayerful way to end the service. Enjoy, Sat Nam, Gururattana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Dear Joyce, I am simply offering you an alternative to the regular sequence that takes less time. You can change the times if you have more time available. outloud for 1-2 (or whatever) minutes, whisper 1-2 minutes listen silently for one more minute. At this time ask them to hear the sound within. That would be a prayerful way to end the service. Blessings, Gururattana - joyce mogab Kundaliniyoga Thursday, January 18, 2007 6:00 PM Re: Kundalini Yoga unitarian service I'm sorry I don't quite understand... Joyce Guru Rattana <gururattan (AT) yogatech (DOT) com> wrote: Sat Nam, Concerning the outloud, whisper, silent, do what feels right to you to fit in a short amount of time. Maybe outloud for 1-2 minutes, the whisper 1-2 and then haven them listen for one more minute so they can hear the sound within. That would be a prayerful way to end the service. Enjoy, Sat Nam, Gururattana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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