Guest guest Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 Witness and witnessed are one and the same. Seeking the lostness of duality leads to the suffering that points to The Unity. It is a self-teaching Oneness. Everything is part of the same beautiful beingness. Peace and Happiness to all, Yoshe >"mahadevadvaita" <mahadevadvaita > >advaitin >advaitin > Re: Witness and witnessed >Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:47:14 -0000 > > > Namaste, Sada-ji, > > > > Well said. There has been a lot of discussion about the actual > > process of self-realization. In my opinion the discussion has been > > carrid on too long trying to find out what happens to the mind >after > > it has been consumed by the ocean of Absolute Knowledge. > > > > Just to prompt everybody to think in a different direction, may I >ask > > the following seemingly innocuous question: > > > > Does a Jivanmukta know that he is a Jivanmukta? > >Namaste to all, > Yes he/she does. Why ? Because if you read Pujya Swami Dayananda's >Gita commentary, you can tell that he is a Param jnani, although he >never speaks about himself. It is intuitive not any hard evidence or >anything. >Also, please read our Chief Moderator's own account on his website >(although he was reluctant to answer this question.) Here is an >extract from his website > >http://www.advaita.org.uk/discourses/q_and_a/q_and_a.htm > >Q: Would you please tell us about your own Awakening? > >A: The short answer is 'no'. Why do you ask and what difference could >it make to anything? > >The longer answer is that I used, many years ago, to feel generally >dissatisfied with life and believe that everyone else (at least those >who appeared to be happy) was deluding themselves in believing that >anything in this life had any real meaning. I began an investigation >that was to last for several decades, during which time I learnt about >Advaita and felt that I was following a path that would one day lead >to enlightenment. I used to imagine that I might one day meet a guru >who would pass on the crucial knowledge that would make the >breakthrough. All this was self-delusion, still believing that there >was a separate 'I' that could somehow become an eternal Self. > >There was no obvious, final piece of knowledge, no event, no special >guru. I carried on reading and discussing these matters, latterly with >many contacts on the Internet. Then, though my interest continues (as >evidenced by the fact that I am currently writing my fourth book on >the subject), the personal element imperceptibly diminished until, two >or three years ago, I realized that I was no longer 'seeking'. The >understanding of the truth was just simply there, not simply as an >intellectual conviction but as something unarguable, requiring no >external validation. Life goes on; the nature of this body-mind has >not changed and will continue to operate as though the world is >dualistic but it matters not. There is not the shadow of a doubt >that 'I' am not the body or mind, simply 'I am'. There is no free >will, no creation etc. All of the key tenets of Advaita are simply >self-evident. > > > > > _______________ FREE online classifieds from Windows Live Expo – buy and sell with people you know http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwex0010000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://expo.live.com?s_cid=Hotmail_tagline_12/06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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