Origin of the Living Entity- Oh No! Here we go again about this jiva-tattva issue!!!

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"Perhaps you still have a doubt about how a soul comes to think himself independent. It can be postulated that before he assumed the post of Brahma, that soul must have been with Krishna in His pastimes within the eternal realm of Goloka. How is it that this particular soul goes from there to the post of Brahma?

 

The answer is that Krishna’s pastimes are expansive. As Krishna expands His pastimes, so also the souls expand within Him into further realms of His divine lila or play. The creation of the material world is one more expanded lila. Thus the Lord Himself personally enters the material world, and so also do His devotees. Even the eternal residents of Goloka Vrindavan enter the material world at the time Krishna personally descends Himself, as He did 5000 years ago in Bhauma Vrindavan (the Vrindavan on earth, in India, 90 miles south of New Delhi). Some of these residents assume forms different than their Goloka identities. Narada Muni, for instance, the sage who preaches bhakti throughout the 3 worlds, is originally Madhumangala, a friend of Krishna’s in Goloka. And Narada is the son of Brahma. Brahma is a role a jiva can get in the Lord’s pastime of creation if that jiva is interested in participating in the creation-lila from a position apparently as independent as that of God Himself. This particular position (Brahma) is the one from which a soul *may* fall (it is not guaranteed he will) from the Lord’s association into enmeshment in creation. In other words, rather than simply participating in creation from a transcendental position (as do the residents of Vrindavan and Narada Muni), such a soul, by attachment to his lordly position, becomes *part* of the creation… life after life".Inspiring realizations From Suhotra Prabhu

 

The perpetual Kingdom of Radha and Krishna, known as Krishna-Loka or Goloka-Vrndavana and encircled by theimperishable Vishnu-Loka or the Vaikuntha Planets, where Krishna's numerable expansions of Vishnu and Lakshmi reside along with their infinite number of devotee’s (known as Krishna’s marginal potency or individual bodily servants) takes up 3/4 of the imperishable Spiritual Sky or total creation.

Krishna’s planet is centered above in the red lotus flower and surrounded by unlimited expansions of Vishnu and Lakshmi in the surrounding yellow Vaikuntha planets; both transcendental abodes are made up of living entities (individual bodily personalities or Krishna’s marginal potency) with eternal devotional bodies where no material energy can exist. The nitya-siddha-svarupa-atma-vigraha devotee’s (Krishna’s marginal potency) can never fall down as their bodily devotional self. The secondary consciousness of the perpetual jiva-atma-vigraha devotee’s only comes into existence when ones focus is not on Krishna, this secondary conscious obviously originates also within the Goloka realm but cannot exist in that realm. In this way it is very clear that the jiva-bhutah consciousness originates outside of the mahat-tattva and is transmitted into the mahat-tattva from one perpetual body in the Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha realm that is ¾ of the creation, such secondary consciousness or lower self is known as the jiva-bhutah consciousness. The jiva-bhutah (the lower self) consciousness (jiva-soul or life force) is neither ethereal, biological or material because it is part of ones spiritual constitution however, when this lower conscious version of the self enters the mahat-tattva, it becomes contained and confined to an ethereal vessel provided by Maha-Vishnu for the purpose of beginning its journey in the dreams of Maha-Vishnu to satisfy material desires, dreams and thoughts without Krishna being in the center.

In the corner of the painting above, one can see the less significant and smaller mahat-tattva cloud, also in that Spiritual Sky (perishable material universe only 1/4 of creation), that dark cloud is nothing other than the rebellious dreams, thoughts, desires and impersonal escape of just a few of those eternal bodily personalities (jiva-atma-vigraha devotee’s). Due to their desire not to be with Krishna as their devotional form or body, Such disloyal dreams, thoughts and desires are projected or transmitted as a ‘secondary consciousness’ to the mahat-tattva or temporary material manifestation.

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His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada, the founder of the International Society or Krishna Consciousness.

 

 

No One Falls From Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha

 

 

 

 

 

It is there within that mahat-tattva cloud, the projected secondary consciousness, emanating from ones original perpetual body, that can never fall from Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha, becomes contained by ethereal and biological vessels in a manifestation of time (past, present, future, decay and impermanence) that does not exist in the perpetual Spiritual Sky surrounding the mahat-tattva. Such temporary bodies are provided by the presiding Deity of the mahat-tattva Maha-Vishnu and guided (constantly tempted) through the mahat-tattva by Maya-Devi’s sakti, the wife of Maha-Vishnu. The mahat-tattva cloud is a real manifestation like the other three quarters of creation or Spiritual Sky however, unlike the perpetual Spiritual Sky; the mahat-tattva is temporary. This will be clearly explained in this book.

Krishna’s subsidiary or marginal living entities make Him complete, inclusive and all pervading like the sun and the sunrays, or like a burning bush with embers and sparks emanating from the fire. Unfortunately such a comparisons or analogies have an impersonal shade about it because Krishna is not the sun or a burning bush (ultimately He is the Supreme Vigraha) and His marginal living entities are not rays from the sun or sparks from a burning fire (the marginal vigraha’s). The fact is both Krishna and His marginal potency always remain individual persons as their original authentic perpetual transcendental bodies, that is always who they really are and always have for an eternity. No beginning, no end.

In other words such spiritual bodies in the Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha Autocratic Empire are not vessels or container or a body one is housed in, no, it is not like that in the perpetual spiritual Sky because those bodies are who one really is for infinity.

Srimad Bhagavatam 10.47.32

As a person just arisen from sleep may continue to meditate on a dream even though it is illusory, so by the agency of the mind one meditates on the sense objects, which the senses can then obtain. Therefore one should become fully alert and bring the mind under control.

Srila Prabhupada: -

The verb pratipad means, "to be perceived or restored." The soul that is vinidra, free from the dreamlike condition of material consciousness, is restored to its constitutional position as an eternal servitor of the Lord, Sri Krishna, and thus the soul is directly perceived by pure consciousness.

Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 11:22.54-57 it is stated: -

The soul's (atmanah or jiva-bhutah) material life (samsarah - the ethereal or biological bondage of birth and death), his experience of sense gratification, is actually false, O descendant of Dasarha, just like trees' appearance of quivering when the trees are reflected in agitated water, or like the earth's appearance of spinning due to one's spinning his eyes around, or like the world of a fantasy or dream.

Srila Prabhupada: - ‘Trees appear to be swaying when reflected in agitated water, and similarly, when one is sitting on a moving boat the trees on the shore appear to be moving. When the wind whips up the water, creating waves, the water appears to have movement of its own, although it is actually being moved by the wind. The conditioned soul (jiva-bhutah) in material life does not perform any activities, but rather the ethereal or biological body, with the consent of the illusional living entity or jiva-bhutah, is being moved by the modes of nature. One imposes this external movement upon oneself, considering oneself to be dancing, singing, running, dying, conquering and so on, although these are merely interactions of the external biological body with the modes of nature’.

We hear from the Vedic texts that the Supreme Brahman or Brahmajyoti exhibits Krishna’s effulgence (originates from Krishna), and therefore everything becomes illuminated. We can understand from Brahma-samhita that this Brahmajyoti, or the Brahman effulgence, emanates from the Personal body of Lord Krishna. Many Vaishnava philosophers have considered this effulgence of individuals to be Impersonal however, all ‘so-called sparks’ in Krishna’s effulgence are actually the manifestation of unlimited individual bodily-personalities.

The only place where ones extended secondary consciousness can appear as a spark of conscious in an Impersonal phenomenon, is after first entering the mahat-tattva and then eventually finding freedom from the billions of bodily forms one’s consciousness possesses/creates/provided. Only then can one’s transmitted consciousness enter the Impersonal Brahmajyoti that also has many other names that will be explained gradually through this thesis.

The jiva-tattva, jiva-bhutah, jiva-sakti or spirit soul is a secondary conscious phenomenon originating as an extension from one’s own unique never-ending bodily self (atma-vigraha or jiva-atma-vigraha). This secondary extended restricted dreaming consciousness only comes into existence when one is no longer interested Krishna’s beautiful form as being the central point of ones affection, service, thoughts, dreams and love. The fall down to the secondary conscious level is not dashed here and there by hot fluxes of emotions and sentimentality, whether envy, jealousy, forgetfulness or inattentiveness One is fully aware of what they are dreaming about and CHOOSE to be independent from Krishna, its as simple as that.

In the very elementary terms, this means, as we all know, the mahat-tattva (material temporary manifestation) is a dark cloud in corner of the Spiritual Sky (The entire creation is also referred to as the Brahmajyoti). The presents of life or consciousness can only enter the mahat-tattva from the out side, OR generated from individual consciousness emanating from the nitya-siddha-atma-vigraha devotee’s in Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha spiritual Sky UNDER Krishna’s plan of creation. It is their non-Krishna conscious dreams, radiating from ones authentic genuine actual perpetual bodily self (jiva-atma-vigraha), that are transferred to the mahat-tattva because they cannot remain in a fully Krishna Conscious atmosphere. In a crude example, the dreams one has, while in their present biological body, automatically makes one forget their biological body due to being absorbed and identifying with the dreams deep within one’s sub-consciousness. In this way, when ones inner dreams, requirements and thoughts do not include Krishna, such thoughts and desires are transferred to the dreams of Maha-Vishnu within the mahat-tattva where the Lord of the material manifestation and His representatives give those flickering thoughts and desires, bodily form and a stage for their enactment.

Within the imperishable Spiritual Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha’s, ones desires dreams, deeds and thoughts are all equal, are all real as each other however, when such dreams are not Krishna conscious or insync with the constitutional position of ones devotional rasa body blissfully serving Krishna, then such rebellions dreams originally the mistaken thoughts, desires and DREAMS of the lower self of ones eternal bodily personality (atma-vigraha), become unsuitable in Krishna’s eternal beautiful Kingdom and are immediately, on their formation due to choice and not whim, are transferred to the perishable mahat-tattva as a conscious projection of individual thoughts called the jiva-bhutah consciousness. During the transfer of such self-glorifying thoughts, the jiva-bhutah consciousness is placed first in seed form (ethereal basic container) within the dream creation of Maha-Vishnu. Such seed form manifest as the starting point of bodily form from within the mahat-tattva and manifests first as the body of Brahma, the first created being in all the billions of universal globs emanating from the Body of Maha-Vishnu.

 

Its all pretty clear to me

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"It is there within that mahat-tattva cloud, the projected secondary consciousness, emanating from ones original perpetual body, that can never fall from Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha, becomes contained by ethereal and biological vessels in a manifestation of time (past, present, future, decay and impermanence) that does not exist in the perpetual Spiritual Sky surrounding the mahat-tattva. Such temporary bodies are provided by the presiding Deity of the mahat-tattva Maha-Vishnu and guided (constantly tempted) through the mahat-tattva by Maya-Devi’s sakti, the wife of Maha-Vishnu. The mahat-tattva cloud is a real manifestation like the other three quarters of creation or Spiritual Sky however, unlike the perpetual Spiritual Sky; the mahat-tattva is temporary".

 

Interesting perspective prabhu but very hard to realize if we are too attached to our bodily identity in this world

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IF we were from divine abode and fell one time then there is possibility that we will fall again. But our scriptures say that once gone to the Divine abode we never come back (Gita).

 

The stories of Jaya and Vijaya are the leelas of Divine world and they are repeated over and over again. IT is not a matter of falling for them.

 

Jiva is an energy of Krishn (called Jiva Shakti) and it was always covered with maya. Once it crosses maya there is no chance of coming back or falling.

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Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura in Jaiva Dharma, Chapter Fifteen:

 

The conclusion is this: the individual souls are manifested by the jiva-shakti. They are not manifested by the cit-shakti.

 

 

Its all pretty clear to me

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The Final Proof: The Jiva Did Fall From Goloka

 

 

 

 

The various Vedic texts tell us that the <st1:place w:st="on"><st1>Kingdom</st1> of<st1> Krishna</st1></st1:place> is an eternal active place of boundless pastimes where nothing perishes. Everything in Krishna’s Abode is always eternally there because of the perpetual and imperishable nature of His Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha Spiritual Sky or Abode, this means ones eternal, perpetual, unchanging, continious, everlasting, ceasless, never ending, long lasting, continual jivatma vigraha is ALWAYS there and can NEVER leave because of the eternal nature of Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha. Perpetual means nothing there can decay perish or disappear.

As already mentioned and must be constantly emphasised, this means all of us have an eternal form and relationship that is always with Krishna in His everlasting Abode that is forever there and has always been there, even though from time to time, we are consciously unaware of this unending reality due to our forgetfulness and fantasies that create our mirage like insignificant secondary consciousness (real but temporary) that transmits ‘the thoughts one wants created’ to the material universe in the jiva-bhutah condition consciousness known as the nitya-baddha proviso of existence within the mahat-tattva (material universe).

In a uncomplicated way of trying to understand this, all of us dream when we sleep, the dreams we have in our biological body or vessel appear real and while immersed in that dream state one forgets their biological body they are dreaming from. In a similar way, the non-Krishna Conscious thoughts, convictions or ‘dreams’ manifest a separate dreaming version of the self (that is real but temporary) and while in that dreaming state or secondary consciousness (jiva-bhutah), we forget our genuine Krishna conscious bodily form.

Keep in mind, on the absolute level, unlike the mundane biological level; ones thoughts or dreams are as real as their atma-jiva-vigraha body, with a major difference, they are expressed through counterfeit bodily vessels within the mahat-tattva. All ethereal and biological vessels as well as their material surroundings are provided by Maha-Vishnu for the purpose of allowing one in their secondary conscious state to live out those dreams, thoughts and desires. Such non-Krishna Conscious thoughts and desires cannot exist within the same devotional space that all their perpetual Krishna Conscious bodies exist in (namely Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha). In this way, it is ones ‘non <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place> Conscious desires’ cause one to consciously enter the mahat-tattva cloud.

All self-centered desires, dreams or thoughts expel themselves from Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha perpetual portion of the Spiritual Sky due to the selfish independent desires (choices) to no longer want to be with <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place>. To remain in the Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha abode, one has to be Krishna Conscious. In this way ones non-Krishna Conscious thoughts, dreams and desires cannot remain there and are transferred as a secondary conscious state (jiva-bhutah) to a far distant transient place in the Spiritual Sky set aside for such temporary thoughts, dreams or desires. Those desires, thoughts and dreams, represented by the jiva-bhutah consciousness, are provided ethereal and biological containers provided by Maha-Vishnu to chase their dream, in some cases for an almost eternity. This place of ‘the dreaming’ is called the mahat-tattva.

When one is awake in their biological body, or when one is dreaming in that body, it is still the same ‘self’ existing on two completely different levels of consciousness at the same time, one in the biological body, the other as dreamed up fantasies the biological body is dreaming.

Such dreams appear real while ones biological body is sleeping, so real, one completely forgets the biological body one is dreaming from.

In a comparable way, whens ones dreams or thoughts are not <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place> conscious, they create a secondary conscious state called the jiva-bhutah conscious condition. This state of consciousness is then transferred to within the mahat-tattva cloud (material universe), which is real but temporary. In this way, the thoughts of ones lower self, unlike the illusionary unreal dreams one has while their biological body is sleeping, are actually a real reality but subject to decay. Remember, on this level of consciousness, your thoughts are your actions and stays that way while even contained in ethereal vessels within the material heavenly planets. Only in the middle planets of biological vessels are ones thoughts and dreams suppressed.

Ones sleeping biological body dreaming, is only an analogy and it does not mean the biological understanding of dreaming is the way we dream ourselves out of the Vaikuntha’s.

There is a difference, ones dreams within Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha are non different from reality or actions. In other words, if one has non-Krishna Conscious thoughts, dreams or desires, they cannot experience those thoughts, desires or dreams in the devotionally uninterrupted <st1:place w:st="on"><st1>Kingdom</st1><st1>Krishna</st1></st1:place>.

To experience such self-centered dreams and desires, the secondary consciousness (jiva-bhutah) is extended to the mahat-tattva or material universe. In this way, ones secondary consciousness is transferred to within the confines and restrictions (being contained in ethereal and biological vessels) of mahat-tattva when one is unaware of their real original identity and form (The atma-vigraha Krishna Conscious body).

As already explained, this means all of us (all marginal living entities) have an eternal shape, form, body and connection that is forever with Krishna in His everlasting Abode which is infinitely eternal even though from moment to moment, we may choose to consciously deny of this everlasting reality due to our desire to experience existence separate from Krishna. Only then, after that choice is made, does forgetfulness enter the equation where ones fantasies of independent grandeur is created by our dreaming secondary consciousness that transmits one to the material universe (mahat-tattva) or nitya-baddha forgetful condition of existence as the jiva-bhutah conscious condition that originates from our perprtual bodily form in Goloka-Vrndavana.

It is clear when Srila Prabhupada refers to our "Old" consciousness

he meant that we were with Lord Krishna in Goloka Vrindavan (the

Kingdom of God) in our imperishable devotional eternal atma-vigraha

(atma means self, vigraha means bodily form)) Spiritual (devotional)

body that our present roaming projected consciousness (jiva-soul or

life-force) has now forgotten.

 

Srila Prabhupada says that we cannot argue about it, therefore, as

Prabhupada's disciples, we have to accept his final words: -

 

"Because he falls down from 'brahma-sayujya' (another name for the

Impersonal inactive motionless Brahmajoyti), he thinks that may be his origin; but he does not remember that before that even he was with Krishna. Formerly we were with Krishna in His Lila or sport" (Lecture in Australia 1972)

 

Srila Prabhupada can and does say that the living entity (atma-vigraha)

never actually falls from the spiritual world however the forgetful

consciousness of the living entity (The projected jiva-soul-consciousness) can.

 

Paramahamsa: So we can come to the Spiritual World and return?

 

Srila Prabhupada: Yes.

 

Paramahamsa: Fall down?

 

Srila Prabhupada: Yes. As soon as we try, "Oh, this material world is

very nice,Yes," Krishna says, "yes, you go." Just like nobody is

interested in Krishna consciousness. Do you think everyone is

interested? So. They want to enjoy this material world. Otherwise what

is the meaning of free will? Every living entity has got a little free

will. And Krishna is so kind, He gives him opportunity, "All right, you

enjoy like this." Just like some of our students, Krishna conscious,

sometimes go away, again come back. It is free will, not stereotyped.

Just like one goes to the prison house, not that government welcomes,

"Come on. We have got prison house. Come here, come here." He goes out

of his free will; again comes out, again goes. Like that.

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Does that mean Vaikunta is <B><I>not</B></I> infallible?

 

 

It is clear when Srila Prabhupada refers to our "Old" consciousness

he meant that we were with Lord Krishna in Goloka Vrindavan (the

Kingdom of God) in our imperishable devotional eternal atma-vigraha

(atma means self, vigraha means bodily form)) Spiritual (devotional)

body that our present roaming projected consciousness (jiva-soul or

life-force) has now forgotten.

 

Srila Prabhupada says that we cannot argue about it, therefore, as

Prabhupada's disciples, we have to accept his final words: -

 

"Because he falls down from 'brahma-sayujya' (another name for the

Impersonal inactive motionless Brahmajoyti), he thinks that may be his origin; but he does not remember that before that even he was with Krishna. Formerly we were with Krishna in His Lila or sport" (Lecture in Australia 1972)

 

Srila Prabhupada can and does say that the living entity (atma-vigraha)

never actually falls from the spiritual world however the forgetful

consciousness of the living entity (The projected jiva-soul-consciousness) can.

 

Paramahamsa: So we can come to the Spiritual World and return?

 

Srila Prabhupada: Yes.

 

Paramahamsa: Fall down?

 

Srila Prabhupada: Yes. As soon as we try, "Oh, this material world is

very nice,Yes," Krishna says, "yes, you go." Just like nobody is

interested in Krishna consciousness. Do you think everyone is

interested? So. They want to enjoy this material world. Otherwise what

is the meaning of free will? Every living entity has got a little free

will. And Krishna is so kind, He gives him opportunity, "All right, you

enjoy like this." Just like some of our students, Krishna conscious,

sometimes go away, again come back. It is free will, not stereotyped.

Just like one goes to the prison house, not that government welcomes,

"Come on. We have got prison house. Come here, come here." He goes out

of his free will; again comes out, again goes. Like that.

[Vigraha]

 

 

The golden rule is to remember Krishna and never forget Him<?xml:namespace prefix = o />

 

 

In our present condition, we become afraid that we still have the choice (always) to leave <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comKrishna</st1:place> and never ever forget Him<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = " /><st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place> even when we return back home, back to Godhead.

 

 

The simple answer for us to never again leave Krishna is this, never ever forget <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place> in our every thought and deed.

 

Do you think just because we re-awaken our 'OLD' Krishna Consciousness, we loose the marginal aspect (choose) of our consciousness? That choose is there also, to forever expand and increase our love or service to <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place>.

If we want to stay with Krishna as our original rasa body, we must WANT to stay with beautiful <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place> in all our dreams, thoughts, deeds etc, otherwise we CAN AGAIN FALL from our rasa body.

 

Fortunately only 1/4 of marginal vigraha devotee's foolishly choose to make the 'conscious non-Krishna conscious' to plunge into the mahat-tattva, while most of those who return from there learn their lesson, that is, AS LONG AS THEY DO NOT CHOOSE SOMETHING ELSE OTHER THAN KRISHNA and activate that dreaded secondary non-Krishna conscious self centered dream state.

 

We know that a hot stove will burn our hand so we don't foolishly put our hand on a hot stove, similarily if we ALWAYS remember Krishna, then our conscious will always be with Krishna as our rasa body and that secondary consciousness will not exist, just like darkness can not exist in the presents of light.

 

 

Only by always remembering beautiful <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place> always, can he protect us and dispel the secondary jiva-tattva consciousness.

 

In fact such non-Krishna consciousness can never exist in Goloka. As soon as one stops being Krishna Conscious, we are transferred, as a secondary consciousness phenomenon(JIVA-BHUTAH) to the mahat-tattva.

 

There has to be the ETERNAL endeavor by us to stay with Krishna's wonderful pastimes by CHOOSING TO SURRENDER TO HIM UNCONDITIONALLY, we are not robots, we don't loose our individuality and ability to choose when we return back home to Goloka. ‘Ah. now I’m relieved I’m back with Krishna’ - No its not like that, we all must always remember Krishna and never forget Him, only then He will always protect His devotee's so they will never again fall down or perish under the weight of illusionary dreams of self importance within the mahat-tattva.

 

Isn’t this the meaning of being a Vaishnava or devotee of <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place> – to always remember Him and never forget Him?

The fall from <ST1:PGod Kingdom</ST1:P is as a secondary manifestation of dreaming consciousness only manifesting within the sub-conscious mind of ones perpetual Spiritual devotional bodily self, which further only exists when one is bereft of <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place> consciousness. Such non-Krishna conscious dreams only come into a temporary existence when they enter the mahat-tattva and are given form by Maha-Vishnu. (There is always choice to dream of <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place> or dream of self importance, adoration, worship, fame and master)

 

We all have an original KRISHNA conscious body however, we can only be aware of such a body when we are selflessly engaged in loving devotion to God who is known as Krishna in his Supreme Person and lives eternally with His loving devotees (marginal personalities) and unlimited expansions, all playing different roles, in the uninterrupted ambiance of His beautiful Goloka-Vrndavana planet.

 

This Divine all-attractive planet exists in the transcendental universe or spiritual sky beyond time and space, past and future. It is a blissful gorgeous imperishable universe that is eternally set in the present as the Brahma-Samhita teaches us.

The constitutional nature of the jiva or soul in its full potential of adoring non-envious expression of full consciousness is embodied as a eternal Krishna Conscious bodily form and engaged in loving noble unconditional service to <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place> and His pure devotees. This wonderful blissful place in Goloka is the soul’s (vigraha devotee’s) original constitution.

 

 

This means the full constitution of the marginal living entity is further made complete with free will, individuality and identity manifesting as a perpetual bodily form.

 

All jiva-souls, or Krishna’s marginal potency are manifested as that perpetual beautiful attractive youthful bodily form, serving the wonderful object of their loving service, Krishna the Lord and Master of all and protector of His devotee’s who always serve and remember Him, and provider to His dreaming-devotee’s who choose not to remember Him and transferred to within the dreams of Maha-Vishnu within the Mahat-tattva.

 

On the other hand, how are we to understand the word original when there was no beginning to the Spiritual Sky of Goloka-Vrndavana and the subordinate unending perpetual attractive Vaikuntha planets surrounding that wonderful central creation of <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place>?

 

In the very simplest terms, the Creation is actually divided in the higher universe that covers three quarters of the creation and the lower universe that covers ¼ of creation and the impersonal space between the two where ones secondary consciousness manifests as its third conscious state called tatastha (inactive or dreamless).

 

The difference between the three is significant; one is imperishable beyond time and space, where the past and future do not exist due to the everlasting present, while the second is embodied in perishable bodies controlled by time, past, present, future, decay, forgetfulness, birth, disease, old age and death, and the third is the impersonal escape from those frustrating vessels if one still continues to deny the existence of their rasa body in Goloka.

 

The lower universe or mahat-tattva, appears as a dark phenomenal cloud in one corner of the Spiritual sky creation (The entire Spiritual Sky is also known as the Brahmajyoti

 

 

 

The golden rule is to remember <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place> and never forget Him

 

[Shakti-Fan]

In modern English Vernacular, infallible means never making a mistake. If you look at the etymology of the word in - not, fallible - prone to falling; And of course by the laws of material energy one does not fall up they "fall down". So of course Srila Prabhupada told in many places, that there are two kinds of beings fallible and infallible. Krsna says (BG 15.1)That abode of Mine is not illumined by the sun or moon, nor by electricity. One who reaches it never returns to this material world. It just doesn't make sense that a conditioned soul can become perfect by grace and go to the spiritual planets and become fallible and that an eternally infallible soul call become fallible.